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By Android Central
Monday, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:46 pm EDT
OK, ladies and germs. You want specs, you got specs. Here we have the new LG Nexus 4 versus the iPhone 5, Samsung Galaxy S3, HTC One X, iPhone 5, Nokia Lumia 920 and (ha!) the BlackBerry 10. Full version's here if you get tired of squinting.
wow no LTE...might just get the Galaxy nexus then...
I love Google.
One phone for the world and a slight variant for Tmo US faster 3G speeds that is still world capable.
Waiting for my Sprint Unlimited contract to be up, so I can jump back on Tmo US new Unlimited 4G plan.
LMAO, the iPhone finally gets LTE so what does Google decide to do --- drop LTE. Makes sense /s This latest Nexus launch makes me feel like Google has absolutely no idea what the hell they are doing.
This: @nerdtalker You either get a phone without the carrier adulteration, and no LTE, or you get an LTE phone that's been adulterated. That's how it is now.
And anybody on Verizon with the GN will agree.
Unless you want a fruit phone. I will never understand why Google can't stop carriers from bastardizing their phones the way Apple can.
You realize there's 3 iPhone 5 models, right?
GSM model A1428*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 4 and 17)
CDMA model A1429*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)
GSM model A1429*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5)
Now notice the two different GSM models and their LTE bands. You don't think at&t is the reason for that? Even the CDMA model, with GSM capability and a huge array of international LTE bands, won't work on at&t's LTE band 4.
Google didn't want to play that game, and frankly I can't fault them.
They aren't Google's phones. Apple "makes" (and I use that term extremely loosely) their phones, whereas Google just puts out Android and the OEM and carrier put out the phone.
In another note, what's the "Slimport HDMI" on the Nexus 4
I'm going to guess that it's a smaller HDMI port, so we can connect it to TVs.
I applaud Google for the choice they have made. Hspa plus is more than enough for a great device. People should thank Verizon for what they have done to the NEXUS NAME with it's piss poor ability for simple stock updates. Lack there of is why they won't see any Nexus 4 I applaud Google on that. Verizon is like a disease they mess up everything I am extremely happy for Tmobile guess that shuts everybody's mouth up about all that Verizon is best garbage. Google doesn't think so and that's pretty aparent. Tmobile stores will be jumping with the Galaxy Note 2 and Lg Nexus 4 ready for purchase. What they got over there on Verizon?? Cosmetically changed upcoming Galaxy Note 2 and bloatware filled Droid Razr devices alone with crappy Lte battery draining network. This is a wonderful day.. Minus hurricane Sandy..
The VZW Nexus got it's JB update before any other phone on the market besides the GSM one. For the flashaholics, it was available immediately after it dropped in the summer. You can drop the VZW apps you don't use.
It's annoying to hear all they crying about it being less of a nexus. They're the biggest carrier with the best network in the US. (A feature that trumps anything on the phone itself, as it doesn't matter if the phone has no service.)
Oh, and where is the Google announcement that says they aren't happy with the Nexus on VZW?
Uh, no, the GSM Nexus S and Sprint's G-Nex got JB first. They may have even rolled it out to the Nexus S 4G around the same time, too.
Google / LG had 3 options when it came time to put radios in the Nexus 4:
1. A single, super phone SKU: Invent a super radio that can work with every carriers' LTE, GSM AND CDMA networks, being capable of accessing any number of radio frequencies. This would likely make every software update for the phone be tested by ALL carriers that this phone can access. You think its bad now when just Verizon has to test their GNexus's software updates... Image Verizon + AT&T + Sprint + T-Mobile + anyone else having to test and give their OK (in short, updates would be 6+ months behind). Also, could you imagine how expensive such a device would be? I'm guessing $800+ off contract. That's 64GB iPhone prices...
2. Multiple SKUs, one for each Carrier's LTE spectrum in addition to a GSM-only phone: This is what happened with the Galaxy Nexus. Sprint and Verizon get their own Galaxy Nexus SKUs and they both get updates months after the GSM unlocked version. This is also a software update nightmare but in a different way than option 1.
3. Create a GSM unlocked phone (for a really good price) and call it a day. Yes, it leaves out CDMA carriers but look at what Verizon did to what should have been a true Google experience on the Galaxy Nexus... Bloat ware... on a Nexus! True this is not exactly the best option when trying to make the phone available for the maximum number of users but making branches of a Nexus phone (option 2) compromises what it means to own a Nexus device. I'm sure Google and/or LG will seriously consider CDMA / LTE versions of the phone over the coming months but if they do I don't think they should call them Nexus.
I personally use a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Yes, its unlocked, rooted and flashed with a non-Stock ROM so I don't care about the bloat ware but I shouldn't HAVE to do this to not have bloatware on a Nexus. I'm going to be purchasing a Nexus 4 and moving to a pre-paid GSM plan, I'm done paying $90 for LTE when everywhere I go, I have 20+ mbps internet via Wifi. $45 / month cell phone service here I come!
Agreed. People don't understand the differences in LTE by carrier. Verizon and Sprint may get CDMA/LTE versions, but Google is on their own timeline, and this is when they decided to release the unlocked Nexus (the only one Google sells).
Looks like I'm not the only one jumping ship from overpriced post-paid services for the N4. I'm surprised more people aren't aware that $200+ family plans aren't the only choice.
Wow, VERY nicely written Weirdo815...
Please, you have carriers like Verizon to blame for this, not Google.
Google tried playing their game last time and it was a mess with the verizon GN (they demanded exclusivity, hence the GSM version was available much later in the US than the rest of the world, they botched the update (delayed it) relative to the GSM version updates)...
This time, Google decided not to play their game.
Considering the price point of the Nexus 4, I applaud their decision!
HSPA+ 42mbps is MORE than enough for me. I regularly get 20+mbps on Tmo.
Oh, and my phone lasts me all day with heavy use!
why isn't the new Nexus 4 listed as quad-core, is that something not confirmed yet?
The S4 Pro is the quad-core version. There is no Pro listed for the dual-core versions.
Samsung GS3 for the win!
Yeah, when you see them side by side on a chart, the new LG Nexus 4 (Lex4? ;) ) is really lacking in many areas compared to the GS3...
No matter, I'm on Sprint so the "E4GLE" will likely be my next device. Plus Sense adds so many features, raw Android and other skins seem stripped down.
No LTE? FAIL! They better release an LTE version or it will sell like the Nexus 1. Maybe since the Quadcore does not work with the LTE, they are going to release a Dual core LTE version. That would be stupid too!
Note 2 is a quad core with LTE. Unless there's something I missed about the Nexus' quad core.
Sorry, I mean't they are not on the same chip with Quad core and that hurts battery life. That is why the GS3 and One X have the dual core, the Processor and LTE chip are together. They may not have had room to separate them in the housing they used, so no LTE.
Note 2 runs Samsung's Exynos, while the N4 is on Qualcomm's S4 Pro. BUT according to Qualcomm, the S4 Pro can run LTE "on select processors" so whatever that really means.
The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro is a quad-core chip that can support LTE. Look at the LG Optimus G on Sprint and AT&T if you don't believe me.
Quad-core/LTE incompatibility is no longer an issue. And it's not just Qualcomm: the HTC One X+ on AT&T supports LTE on its quad-core Tegra 3 SoC.
It would be nice if you broke out the EVO LTE in your comparison. It tops the One X with MicroSd and 2000 mAh battery.
Why isn't the new Galaxy Note 2 on this list??? That beast has killer specs.
There is no reason the new Nexus couldn't be released with LTE and still leave out all the carrier bull shit, they make chips today that will carry all the LTE radios all in one ala the I-Phone 5 I believe.
I don't mind them leaving out LTE, I live in an area with extremely fast HSPA+ and when you are getting on average around 10-15mb down and 4-5mb up on HSPA+ then you don't need LTE.
What really pisses me off is the design (all that unused bezzel) and no int storage which is a fuc---- joke.
That alone will keep me from buyng this new Nexus.
"There is no reason the new Nexus couldn't be released with LTE and still leave out all the carrier bull shit, they make chips today that will carry all the LTE radios all in one ala the I-Phone 5 I believe."
No they don't. There are three iPhone varieties and they don't work on different US LTE frequencies:
Hmmmm two of these N4s or one GN2...
Like a lot of others are saying: where the crap is my LTE?
pretty sad when Google's flag shit phone is last place with specs. Guess they only want developers to have it. like what's been posted before Google has no balls there scared if carriers. if they wherent there wewould be lte phones. Apple finally has one up on Google. all that time we fuss and laugh at Apple for no lte well they got it and bigger screens. and what ddoes Google do go backwards. not cool.
It's about capturing market share for Google's services at a low price.
you think maybe in Europe. but in the USA you leave out the biggest carriers vzw att and Sprint. that isa huge market share to leave open. and next year Tmo lights up lte. hell the note two can already do Tmo lte when it goes live with a software upgrade.
That's why a couple weeks ago in a thread, so many of us were saying that the Nexus is not always the brand that innovates. This is proof of that.
Or have you forgotten about the Google Nexus debacle where f*n Verizon got an exclusive lockup on it for 6 months so no other carriers could get a *Google* phone that is supposed to be released to multiple carriers at once? :-P
I'd wager most Google Nexus phones will be GSM for maximum compatibility...
Great specs on that BB. This is the only chart where BB didnt lose, lol.
I think the Samsung Galaxy S3 is 1GB ram, not 2...
Intl version is 1GB with exynos quad core. US version is 2GB with snapdragon dual core.
I love this comparison chart. The Blackberry 10 with no known specs is included, but the Razr HD isn't included. Cool.
What is the big deal with LTE? I get ~6Mbps with HSPA+ on Straight Talk. My home internet is only twice that and I never have a problem with it (note I have my NAS running around the clock usually downloading/uploading files, 3 computers and a streaming box.) 6Mbps is perfect for me, no problems whatsoever. I don't understand what people need 42 for... also does no one have wi-fi anywhere?
Secondly how is the nexus not top of the line specs? It ties/bests in every category save for storage and lte. Best processor, most ram (tied), best screen, ideal size (IMO), largest battery, wireless charging...etc. And for 1/2 the price of the competition. Grab it and jump on a MVNO and you're free and clear. Screw the carriers with their LTE at the cost of your soul and hard earned money.
@Kingzoidberg I agree 100%. Besides the fact that my GNex just stopped turning on for no apparent reason and is currently in TX at a Samsung repair shop (a whole other story), everything has been great. There has been absolutely nothing that I've tried to do on my GNex on Straight Talk (AT&T) HSPA+ that the network or processor was too slow to accommodate. It's a cheap (in price) phone in comparison to other phones with similar specs, the service is cheap compared to other services ($45 - $50), and everything is great. If Samsung does not fix my phone, or tries to charge me money to do so, I'll be p**sed but I'll buy a Nexus 4 instead. If they do fix it, I'll stick with my GNex because it's still works great.
For all the yammering that such-and-such flagship phone is better. Not one of those yammerers has mentioned THE PRICE of those out-of-contract LTE flagships phones. $600--$700+
You could have 2(!!!!) Nexus 4s for that price.
You would get 4200 mh of battery... is that enough to get you through the day?
And WTF anyway... don't you people have car chargers and usb cables? Are you really school kids who are too young to drive and go to school instead of work?
You would have 32 gigs of storage.
That seems like enough to quiet the yammering?...of course not, yammer on.
How about those 8 CPU cores and 4 gigs of RAM of multitasking power?
Might that quiet things down? no...
HSPA+ speeds not good enough?
I have no idea why you are hosting a heavy-traffic web server on a phone buddy...I just don't.
Then, Let's talk about saving money on wireless service and having the freedom to travel and choose/change carriers everywhere world wide.
What I am saying is, I'm pretty tempted. But then I actually have to pay for these toys myself. Santa doesn't bring presents for the parents/adults.
well said my area will never have LTE NEVER ! its north and south of me we have 4g ( im on att) and note 2 is just to damn was on my list but quickly dropped when i learn the price OFF contract. i have the one XL now so the 16 gigs is right up my ally i have learned to use and love the cloud storage .
looks like the iphone won... they have infrared.... I use that all the time. (sarcastic).
no offense apple... but you are really starting to slack... and its beginning to show... your brand new phone is already beat. That is terrible.
Same could be said about the Nexus 4. No LTE, no SD card slot and only 16GB of storage. The Nexus 4's saving grace is its cheap but it has to be cheap cause its missing tons of features.
Does anyone actually like LTE? (Ok Yes we all do) BUT who keeps theirs on all day without running out of battery very quickly? The LTE spectrum is far less than perfect right now and is a Carrier gateway drug so Google did the right thing making a truly world capable unlocked phone and when LTE is available everywhere they will shove those antennae in there on the Nexus 5. Don't forget they need to keep costs down so that's probably why it isn't in there. You see LTE would also cause engineering issues for LG...Universal Quad Core SoC here or Dual-Core with LTE there....Who cares about Apple, I would buy two of the Nexus 4 before I would even afford 1 iphone!
People on this very site where shitting all over Apple for not having LTE on the 4s. Now that the iphone 5 has it and the Nexus 4 doesn't everyone's saying LTE is overrated, lol.
God, I hate fanboys.
Are you sure the Nexus 4 does not have GLONASS? The chipset should support it!