HTC's next phone might have even more cores and and bits

HTC's next smartphone might surprise us with some high-powered specs. In a post on Chinese microblogging site Weibo, HTC says that they will have the world's first octa-core 64-bit smartphone. The current HTC flagship, the One M8 (available in both Android and Windows Phone flavors) packs a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor, a 32-bit chip with a measly four cores clocked at 2.3Ghz. An eight-core 64-bit chip? That would be new.

HTC's not saying which phone will see this new chip, or even which chip we'd be seeing in said phone. Qualcomm has started production on multiple 64-bit 8-core chips, including the mid-range Snapdragon 615. The higher-powered Snapdragon 808 and 810 aren't expected until later this year. All use the ARM big.LITTLE format (four high-power cores for the heavy lifting and four low-power cores for mundane work).

For what it's worth, the corner render of the phone in HTC's teaser also seems like it might be mid-tier as well. It's clearly HTC design, but there might be something plasticky to it. We'll see soon enough, we suppose. What do you think?

Source: HTC (Weibo)

 

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HTC's first octa-core 64-bit smartphone is on the way

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I'll also add, hope they reduce the bezel on the top and bottom significantly, keep the same HTC quality and features, somehow include a removable battery, and make it water resistant.

Now THAT is an engineering challenge if ever there was one. I'd buy it in a heartbeat though

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Probably but they were pretty close with the M8. They just need to reduce the bezel like LG with the G3 (I understand there needs to be a little extra bezel for the boom sound speakers), have a removable back cover like they did with the HTC ONE MAX, and make it water resistant like the S5 and Z2. It's probably a difficult task but very possible.

It would be an excellent phone for sure if they do that, though I personally think it won't be until the M10 that we get the full package, and quite frankly, HTC would have a killer phone if they shaved bezels off the M8 and improved the camera.

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Lack of bezels or boom sound speakers...which do you want? You can't have both. Saying that they should reduce the bezel like LG but then in the same sentence say you understand why the bezels have to be larger is rather silly. Don't knock them when you understand why it had to be the way it was. Don't fault them for the bezels if you would rather have boom sound speakers. If you would rather forego boom sound speakers for smaller bezels, contact HTC and let them know.

I'm not necessarily saying that has to be as small as the LG G3, but I'm saying it should be close to that. Look at that new Sprint phone with no bezel. If you add just the HTC speakers to that it would probably be just as small, if not smaller, than the G3.

You know the price it would cost them to do everything your listing , they ain't exactly swimming in diamonds right now, water proof devices are plastic not metal you take one or the other you don't get both ,

If they make it like the E8, I'm perfectly happy with the non-aluminum body. The E8 is not only good-looking but it's actually easier to hold on to (less slippery)

Either way, I'm super excited to see what they do. Especially since they seem to be moving away from UltraPixel. They could easily start making the most well-rounded best smartphone available, seeing as the camera was the M8's only real flaw.

Like anyone will notice. I suppose if the specs look good it will drive enthusiast sales though.

Put in a camera that is similar to the one in S5 or the G3 in the current M8 phone and we've got a winner.

I'm waiting for a phone running 400 series GPU.

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Well if it's using Snapdragon 615 then you'll have the Adreno 405, which i'm guessing will have to be between the 330 and (not to mention the 418 from the Snapdragon 808) 420 in terms of performance.

Have phones finally hit that point where others things need to be the focus? Battery life, camera, water-proofing? This is the first year I feel no need to upgrade my phone. What good is this power if it only appeals to < 5% of people (made up statistic, but is probably even lower). It seems like samsung has felt that effect in phone sales, and I only see it getting worse.

You're right! I think 75% of the world would be happy running a 32-bit, secure, version of Windows XP. I suspect that 90% of the world would be quite happy with an Android One.

While there is no need at all right now for 64 bit, I guess it is a chicken or the egg kinda thing. Do the apps that use it come first or the processor leads the way.

Sure they can. You can design a app/program that will either install a 32 bit version or a 64 bit version. It is done all the time.

Maybe I should have been a bit clearer. :D 64-bit ARM processors. Non-native apps really doesn't matter, as they are basically virtualised themselves.

Would you please enlighten me about the benefits of 64-bit? From an end-user perspective.

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The obvious one is access to larger data. This is however still a bit questionable on ARM, as I don't think there's a mobile GPU available today capable of really using that much texture and keep it at an acceptable frame rate. But, it shouldn't be too far away according to that Moore guy. Access of large databases is another, but, I don't know if that's a realistic scenario on a tablet... :D

One potential one, any manufacturer today could use, is of course longer 4k video clips.

More efficient in how it addresses data. Plus, it gives the proc access to 8 or more GB's of ram to play with. There are other things but these are the main reasons.

Only, those too exist as well. Applied Micro Circuits developed a 64-bit ARM chip in 2011 based on the ARMv8-A instruction set architecture called X-Gene. In addition to ARM's own Cortex, NVIDIA's Denver and Apple's Cyclone, which have been being sampled to manufacturers. So it's not a question of whether we need them. We will see them, as manufacturers already have development hardware to work off of, and I believe ARM themselves started selling a hexa-core based development board recently with dual A57's + quad A53 cores. So it's not just possible to compile for 64-bit Android apps already, but to also run them on such architectures given there are options to test on, on the marketplace.

The work is minimal to take a 32 bit app to work on 64 bit. Might take 2 hours to scale it up and appeal to the larger base. Not to mention being "first" is a big selling point

True, but that's not the reason developers would wait. The troubleshooting work is much bigger, as it's a completely new kernel they're dealing with. Just look at how long it took for third party companies to release 64-bit browsers for Windows.

If the app works in 32 bit, I think most devs will keep it 32 bit. Games will probably be the first going 64 bit (maybe some file management tools too), but most of the rest will stick to 32 bit as long as they can because that's the platform they know best.

BUT BUT...MOAR SPECS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah your right, most will stick to 32 bit, which makes this even more irrelevant. Yeah if your a gamer you will have serious advantages with 64bit, but most of us won't notice squat

kinda invalidates your initial statement doesn't it? In the tech world a year is an eternity and you would have thought that if it was necessary, the major app developers would have done it.

No it does not invalidate my statement and I stand by it. I never gave a time frame as to when most apps developers will migrate /create their apps in 64 bits. 64 bit is coming, however, it will take time like in the computing world. 64 bit OSs came out over 10 years ago, and we are now only seeing most everything designed for 64 bit.

Apple needed a bullet point, 64 bit CPU gave them a bullet point. I still think it's funny how many people think their iPhone is fast because it uses a 64 bit CPU.

And when did I say it was a necessity? Eventually though, all apps will be 64 bit. Just like everything migrated from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit and now the migration is occuring to 64 bit.

and when did I say that you said it was a necessity? Eventually all things do evolve. Thanks Rick Romano I rely on your reporting...

I'm gonna sit still and wait for the Snapdragon 810 to reach the market. . .Perhaps the Samsung Galaxy S6 will have it.

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I'm ready for a new phone and was gunning for the M8 but with news like this I might have to b a lil more patient!

I'm excited... 64 bit will make 32bit programs run faster and give even better battery life. I'm hoping that the next One will have everything in it that will be the One all others are judged by...

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64bit doesn't make 32bit anything run any better, faster, or more efficient. To utilize 64bit, it has to be coded for it by the developer and then, and only then, will the 64bit app run more efficient.

Now, on the other hand, 64bit can utilize 8 or more GB's of ram. If the manufacturer implements more than 3, say....4 or more...it might make a 32bit app run smoother but not faster...unless it's cached....it's complicated.

It will be for asia exclusive using mediatek octa 64 bit chip. It will have 13 mp no optical image stabilization. Still better camera than the 4mp in m8. It will come in plastic body with 1080p display. It will cost under 500 bucks. Yes it is midrange kind of like desire 816. They will use snapdragon processors for their flagships and mediatek for midrange because its cheaper. You are very welcome.

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Never messing with an HTC device again. Their Sense UI is the bulkiest UI overlay that I've played with.

...and I was an HTC fan from the HTC Touch 3D. That's old.

That was along time ago , the m7 and m8 are buttery smooth the ui is very light. HTC sense is the best skin in performance but LG and Samsung offer a few more features like dual window.

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All hype.
What problem are we actually trying to solve except the marketing buzzword problem?
Are 32bit processors soooo slow and soo limited to memory on a mobile platform that we need a 64 bit address space?

I'm a hardware engineer and I just don't see the need or understand the problem.
I have an 8 core MacPro and the only way I keep all eight cores busy is with video encoding or compression. maybe Photoshop filters but that's only for a short period.

Like I said, what problem are we trying to solve?
How about throwing the research at low power optimization for double the battery life.

I don't see 64bit, 8 core processors doing anything except satisfying a check box on a sales/marketing presentation.

Just my humble opinion.

You answered your own question in your first sentence ; ) For now at least. You can already use a smartphone/tablet to power peripherals to somewhat replace a desktop pc. This will advance that capability a good bit I would imagine.

It makes me wonder if this could possibly be in the upcoming HTC One Max 2. The first phone had lackluster specs. HTC might be trying to change that. Would be interesting to see.

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They can call it the One+8 because apparently most phones have to have a + in the name these days.

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