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Failure to win presidential veto means ban won by Apple comes into effect from today

Samsung has failed to win a presidential veto of an ITC ruling against some of its older Android-based mobile devices, meaning an import ban should now be in effect. Following an August ITC ruling, which found that some older Samsung devices infringed upon certain Apple patents, the Obama administration had 60 days to consider a using presidential veto. According to reports from Bloomberg, the president declined to do so.

Devices affected by the ban, the result of legal action brought by Apple in 2011, include the Galaxy S 4G, Fascinate and the original Galaxy Tab, according to The Verge. The ruling will not affect the vast majority of Samsung-made Android phones and tablets currently sold in the U.S.

Apple found itself facing down a similar import ban back in August targeted at several of its iOS devices, a ruling which was overturned by presidential veto. The crux of that decision focused on the fact that Apple was found to have infringed standards-essential patents owned by Samsung, in addition to suggestions that Samsung was unwilling to set reasonable terms for licensing these patents to Apple.

In any case, this latest import ban shouldn't affect anyone in the U.S. looking to pick up a current Samsung-made phone or tablet. Nor will it be the final chapter in the ongoing legal wrangling between Apple and Samsung.

Source: Bloomberg, The Verge

 
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vpblaze says:

So the US administration will veto an American company, but not a Korean company. That makes sense....

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icebike says:

Follow the money.....

rovex says:

I wonder how much tax Samsung and Apple actually pay in the US. I wouldnt be shocked if Samsung actually paid more or at least more on scale.

mwara244 says:

Apple paid 2% last year in taxes, they keep all their money in Ireland for Tax Shelter purposes.

Verizon wireless didn't pay anything in taxes for thee years while taking around $120 billion a year.

Sick of American companies shipping and keeping jobs over seas, their money over seas, and do anything and everything to not pay taxes, but live and have their HQ's in America for it's securities and freedoms. If business' want to stay in the US then either invest in the US or GTFO!

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mwara244 says:

Apple paid 2% last year in taxes, they keep all their money in Ireland for Tax Shelter purposes.

Verizon wireless didn't pay anything in taxes for thee years while taking around $120 billion a year.

Sick of American companies shipping and keeping jobs over seas, their money over seas, and do anything and everything to not pay taxes, but live and have their HQ's in America for it's securities and freedoms. If business' want to stay in the US then either invest in the US or GTFO!

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hmmm says:

They vetoed the ruling. Meaning Apple could continue to sell theirs. Your comment makes it seem as if you're rooting for the other side. Though, I think the president getting involved at all is a little too dictator like.

clearzero says:

rooting for the other side?

This mentality has completely ruined forums like this.

heraldo says:

Yes. Because there are two sides. You can pick one without being ridiculed for it.

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NickLippert says:

I think you misunderstood. The veto overruled a device ban, which means the veto allowed apple to keep selling their devices.

NexusKoolaid says:

I think he meant to say:

"So the US administration will veto *On Behalf of* an American company...."

smotrs says:

Can you say hypocrites?

ConTejas says:

Yes, I can say the word. You DO realize South Korea would not exist as a sovereign country, for better or worse, without the USA? I don't think they're playing favorites TOO MUCH.

Why do people in the US think the world owes them a favour?

travaz says:

It is really Irrelevant as most of those device are past EOL or nearly so. Just a bunch of politics where lots of people got paid off! Follow the money

TomStretton says:

Funny how the American company got a veto but the Korean one didn't.

phor11 says:

Not really surprising though. Self-interest rules politics around the globe.
Always has, always will.

Can't wait to see Apple get banned in S.Korea in the next round of patent spats.

mzanette says:

Did you guys expect anything else?

jaeskill says:

I'm not sure why anybody cares, crack is illegal to import into the U.S. and so are illegal immigrants... doesn't stop them from entering the borders. If people want something bad enough they will find a way to procure it.

rkopsie says:

crApple.

grayfox99 says:

Oh Jesus God NO please don't stop me from buying more Fascinates.....said no one ever.

Wookie Claws says:

+1! I was thinking the same thing!

droidhead_1 says:

Love it!

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cluckkillerb says:

Hey, I'm still rocking a fascinate on page plus! Although I just got a note 2 and am going to flash it to PP using the fascinate as a donor phone lol..at least its still good for something!!

graze81 says:

APPLE VS SAMSUNG, IN THE OCTAGON, SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY! FREE BALLOONS FOR THE KIDS!!!!

s2weden2000 says:

nice one ...0sama

ScottJ says:

Osama is dead and GM is alive.

larrygeary says:

America (as we knew it) is dead because Obama is alive.

ScottJ says:

Right. Uh huh. ODS is strong in this one.

mwara244 says:

And America is stopped dead in its tracks right now and about to default on its loans thanks to the moronic lunatics of the Tea Party

crester says:

So they banned the original Galaxy S??? They do realize they are on the fourth generation of that phone now right?

jeddo45 says:

Welcome to the messed up court system

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Xingularity says:

Thankfully technology moves faster than the courts. This could be the reason Samsung introduced so many phones so closed to each other. By the time one gets banned they are already 2 or 3 models passed it.

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MERCDROID says:

That's genius, on Samsung's part, right?

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I would say so

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ConTejas says:

As a "defense" I agree, but they released Galaxy devices on a normal schedule, no? Just with lots of variants.

Vizualize says:

Damn, I just placed my order for a Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab too........

droidhead_1 says:

I was going to order a lot full

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alexlam24 says:

I just bought one online....

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XavierMatt says:

Lol you guys

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npco543 says:

Wow, this is a huge win for Apple and a devastating loss for Samsung.

I'm honestly not sure how Samsung will be able to survive now that they can no longer import any of their 4 generations old handsets which were discontinued over a year ago and have not been on sale anywhere anyway.

I wonder if we can dock any politician's pay for the time they've devoted to this issue, considering it's a moot point due to said handsets having long since been discontinued and not being for sale and all. Oh, that's right, all politicians know how to do is waste the taxpayer's money. Sorry, carry on...

ConTejas says:

Yep, too bad "it" runs in most human beings blood. My better half is an "essential government" employeee whom was once terrified of being furloughed. Now she is upset she needs to work for her +6 figure salary as plenty other on her same (rather ridiculous..she'd agree) pay grade are now getting "free vacation" with backpay...

vansmack says:

Sweet. I own Contraband.

I still use an original Galaxy Tab 10.1 as my Chromecast remote control for the house...

Incitatus says:

+1

Mike Yeager says:

Lol, not the original GOOD Galaxy Tab, the actual original: that terrible 7 inch Gingerbread tablet that never got updated to be a big boy tablet. Sorry buddy, if you traveled three years into the past you'd still be able to buy one of your tabs...

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NoNexus says:

I was thinking about turning my Fascinate into a remote... Never got around to buying a Chromecast

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MERCDROID says:

You should buy one! I just bought one, and it's addicting. I watch a lot more movies, now.

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ConTejas says:

That's a good thing? Ohhhh humanity!

ScottJ says:

I know. It takes away from his time for arguing on the Internet.

MERCDROID says:

Lol

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droidhead_1 says:

Me too! Thanks for pointing that out!

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vansmack says:

I actually use the Galaxy 10.1, an old at&t Galaxy SII (wifi only) and a Nexus S4G (wifi only) as stand alone Chromecast Remotes in the two rooms I have Chromecasts.

Keeps the Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 free for other things...

Wookie Claws says:

It's a hollow victory for Apple, and one that doesn't change anything. Lots of money wasted in the court system though; so we have that at least.

NoNexus says:

Apple still gets its 650m though

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:/

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wagonis says:

Apple and Samsung are truly wasting their money, time and man hours fighting these battles that do nothing to further their success and forward progress. They should invest all the above to something with while.

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MERCDROID says:

Well, in Samsung's defense, it was Apple that initiated this "thermonuclear" war, against Android.

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alexlam24 says:

Seems like american companies, just like the country like to wage war

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ConTejas says:

Actually, we just pay and fight for it. Supposedly polar politicians end up doing the same things. You don't complain when you need our aid and/or help though, huh? As they say, the pathway to hell is lined with good intentions.

ScottJ says:

We mostly go in debt for it. Bombs cost money.

MERCDROID says:

Imagine a world where bombs are free...

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eahinrichsen says:

Well, shit. And I had *just* decided to buy a Nexus S 4G over a Droid X2.

MERCDROID says:

Good man. At least, the Nexus S 4G has Jellybean XD

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frettfreak says:

OUCH!!

plunder says:

The whole turgid mess brings the American legal system into disrepute. So does the Presidential veto for Apple - and the lack of one for Samsung. I rejected Apple and bought Samsung years ago for practical reasons, today I actively dislike Apple. Let's face it, neither company has clean hands.

Amir47 says:

And that is why I refuse to get the note 3. I can't stand touchwiz and Samsung is the Apple of the Android world. LG or HTC will get my $$$

these cases go on so long by the time the impose a band the product is already been replaced by the updated model for it

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tdizzel says:

So much for posting a 4th quarter profit. Let me go sell of my Sammy stock before it hits rock bottom

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bobbiac says:

This crap just has to stop. Honestly..

Well Obama approved the ban. Damn iSheep. You can see in a picture with him and other person, they have damn iPads...

xlDeMoNiClx says:

Wonder how much Apple paid to get these results.

Classic Ameriduh.

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Mtn_Scott says:

FOR SALE!!!
One gently used Banned Samsung Fascinate. Extremely rare and Illegal.
$800

someguy01234 says:

No thanks, I don't like Verizon. It's counter part, the Vibrant on T-Mobile is pretty much my favorite phone off all time though.

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YaSo says:

Hang on to it, it will only go up in price!

frettfreak says:

f obama and apple. they will both rot in hell anyway

ScottJ says:

There is no hell.

MERCDROID says:

Source?

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Wow...what an awesome victory for Apple. (Rolls eyes)

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Qoheleth says:

So, the same administration that vetos a ban on Apple equipment because of the "effect on competitive conditions in the U.S. economy and the effect on U.S. consumers." (http://www.forbes.com/sites/connieguglielmo/2013/08/03/president-obama-v...) decides not to veto a very similar ban on Samsung equipment.
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jmaher1023 says:

Steve Jobs went up against Android and died of cancer...this could be a good thing for those who are anti-Obama. This lack of veto supporting Apple may have just sealed his fate. :-P (Just a bit of humor...don't go crazy and call me a hater. I wish death on no one.)

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ScottJ says:

Hater

dchawk81 says:

Wow, just in time! *whew!*

Remember -- buying one of these and shipping it from overseas into the United States is now a Federal crime! Contraband, like Cuban cigars and Whale flipper patties!

larrygeary says:

Obama says the government "is just like Apple". That explains a lot.

ScottJ says:

Extremely successful?

Duffin says:

Congrats, Apple. You won a ban on devices no one is buying anymore!

plunder says:

GOOD GRIEF ! Is this utter bollocks between Apple and Samsung STILL going on?
It makes the ban on keeping Dinosaurs in your kitchen seem so timely and up to date.