Steve Jobs

This is really quite sad, actually. It goes like this: A political satire app feature the work of Pulitzer Prize-winning editorial cartoonist Mark Fiore -- the first such award for an online journalist -- was rejected from Apple's App Store because it violated Apple's policy against "ridiculing public figures." (You'll note above that we're not necessarily worried about that policy here.)

Anyhoo, Apple CEO Steve Jobs himself blessed the app, saying the rejection was a mistake. That brings us to today, and Jobs' response to an Apple customer who expressed concern about Apple playing the role of "moral police." Said customer's major concern:

"I’m all for keeping porn out of kids hands. Heck – I’m all for ensuring that I don’t have to see it unless I want to. But… that’s what parental controls are for. Put these types of apps into categories and allow them to be blocked by their parents should they want to."

In his response (Jobs sure has been writing back to the commoners a lot lately), he just couldn't help but fire more blanks at Android.

"Fiore’s app will be in the store shortly. That was a mistake. However, we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone."

Yes, Steve, we'll be the first to admit that the Android Market's a bit of a mess and is badly in need of a makeover, and something needs to be done about all the bad porn apps. (If we're gonna be stuck with it, can we at least get some quality smut, and maybe put it in a controlled category?)

But for Apple, the maker of arguably the world's best mobile browser, to pretend that it's not also the world's greatest mobile porn portal is petty, misleading and -- frankly -- more than a bit disappointing. This isn't the first time Jobs has fired this unloaded gun. And we're willing to bet it won't be the last. [TechCrunch via TiPB]

 

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Steve Jobs obsessed with Android, porn — and still pretends iPhone is innocent

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I'm going laugh my freaking butt off one of these days if Steve Jobs has one of the biggest porn collections in the country. I mean, is this all he can say or do? Take cheapshots at Android because of porn? Why doesn't the porn industry stand up against Apple's cheapshots? They do make several billion dollars & I'm sure if the porn industry decides to shun the iPhone, they have the "persuasion" to convince their customers to buy Android or Windows phone at Apple's expense. It just proves that Apple has no credible defense against Android.

Steve Jobs is starting to sound like Larry Ellison when he tried to "bash" Red Hat when they were stealing market share from Oracle as well. Instead of attempting to discredit Android and "losing" supposed next gen prototypes of your devices how about actually creating a game changing device instead of something to get your fanboys rabid that lacks the most simple and common features that every other device has.

iPad blows. Fine it's a great multimedia device but so is my $200 Acer netbook that I can use for something other than games and watching movies. iPhones are nothing special and my friends who are so hyped about multi-tasking are blind. I have a device that can multitask and it's 4 years old and cost $20 bucks when I first bought it. If anything Steve Jobs obsession with Android is only catapulting it's market share further. He must have Google envy because with all of his comments he seems more scared of Android than anything.

I agree...I think his dislike for Android is really resentment towards Google for simply being better, quicker...

The one thing you CAN'T say about Apple is that they don't create "game changing" products:

iPod
iTunes
iPhone
iPad

You may not like these products, but they certainly have transformed and even invented entirely new industries.

I am sorry to break it to you but the iPad is not a "game changer" in any way, shape or form. It's a multimedia tablet with good aesthetics and a traditional "i" genre interface.

I will give the iPhone it's credit as far as forcing the industry to up it's game as well as the iPod but that is as far as I will go. With each new Apple device they shit on their idiot (yes I said idiot) fanboys by leaving out such basic but popular features (multi-tasking, camera, usb, flash, MMS on iPhone....plenty more to go around) and then add it to the next iteration because they know you will buy another one. Sure it makes sense to get money where you can but don't you people see this?

Really? I hate to break it to you, but there's tons of press on how it's already changing the publishing industry. And the game just started . Nice of you to give the other 3 products I mentioned their credit though. I guess you at least own an iPod huh. You're a real man of priciples. The fact that you can't reply without calling people idiots is testament to that too. You'll be giving the iPad it's credit due too in the near future when if can afford to buy one.

You people just don't get the iPad. IT IS NOT A COMPUTER. Read that a few times till it sinks in. You keep comparing it to laptops, desktops, netbooks. It's none of those. It's an entirely new product category just like the other 3 products. And it's already proving to be a game changer just like those products.

The iPad is not changing the publishing industry all by its lonesome at all. It is has BEEN changing since the Kindle was announced. The iPad is a horrible instrument to use for reading continuously. It's basically reading on a computer which my eyes strain enough at.

The iPad is not some revolutionary product that has never been seen before. It has been seen COUNTLESS times in smaller versions.

Publishing goes well beyond just books and includes newspapers and magazines and they are all clamoring to be on the iPad. It will be a totally different experience than reading plain text on a Kindle. Tap a picture and see a video about what you are reading. And check out the Alice in Wonderland iBook, it's magical, not just plain text.

Cell phones, music players, on-line music, these all existed too but it was Apple's iterations that changed the game. As will the iPad.

And I agree with you that some people won't like reading on an iPad, but, besides reading books, what else can you do with a Kindle? I wonder why Jeff Bezos is also working on a unit just like the iPad?

I get the iPad, it's a big iPod. I don't own a single one of those products you listed and I get by just fine without them. If they're THAT revolutionary they'd be in every single household, and most households don't have extra money to blow on a big iPod. The only one I can give any credit too is the iPhone since it really forced the competition to come out with something bigger/better(EVO/Android). Btw, the reason the iPad will fail is like you said "ITS NOT A COMPUTER". I was going to buy one until I researched and found out how unusable it is. We don't need another "cool" device that can't do #*%$.

People like you say the same negative things about all Apple products. Yet they are and continue to be wildly successful. And their "competitors" continue to try to copy Apple's success and fail miserably.

Like I said to that other poster, maybe someday you'll be able to afford Apple products and then you'll understand. And I buy Aplle products not because they're "cool", but because they work extremely well.

Then would you mind explaining why Apple has been loosing market share while Android and Pres saw an increase?

you're a Apple Fanboy, of course you'll buy all of their devices without asking questions.

"maybe someday you'll be able to afford Apple products and then you'll understand."

you're full of yourself. Fact that you buy Apple products doesn't make you better then anyone here.

You are just another mindless, brainwashed by Google Android fanboy. You made the idiotic decision to purchase an Android phone. The OS, the marketplace and the user inexperience are subpar. No wonder more people choose the iPhone.

The only thing Apple is really excellent at is good marketing. They don't invent new devices, they just do a better job of marketing their re-package of an existing product category to the ignorant masses.

Why on Earth would you assume that just because some of us choose not buy Apple devices that we cannot afford them? In fact, many Android fans have paid more for their unlocked Nexus Ones, for example, than most people have paid for their iPhone. Besides, if someone has a $20 phone that does everything the iPhone can do, then they would be a fool to shell out for a new iPhone, wouldn't they(especially if the iPhone is less capable and less free than current competitors)?

I myself choose to use phones/pdas that do not control my freedom to use them. I choose to use devices that do not lock me into a single source for applications and content, and that do not presume to police what adults wish to view on their gadgets. Steve should put out a kiddie version. Why would I want to pay for the privilege of letting a single man's taste or current PR mood decide what I can install on my phone, or where I can install it from?

I had a Nokia years ago that could play mp3s, run Java apps, view web pages, send e-mails, etc. I had a Sony Palm OS pda that could do everything but make phone calls and had a better screen for reading books than the iPad(transflective). The iPhone did not invent any of these. I had mp3 players for years before the iPod came out. Kudos to the Apple marketing campaigns. All else, nope.

The iPad disappoints because I want a Star Trek PADD, and the iPad isn't a real computer, just a big iPod Touch(despite the cool photo floating around of Brent Spiner and John DeLancie). It is less capable than tablet PCs, not as easy to carry as an iPod Touch, and not as easy on people's eyes as e-ink. So no, it's not a new device category that brings something new, just more good marketing. It solves none of the current problems that products in related categories have.

@AJF: "It's an entirely new product category just like the other 3 products."

I hate to break it down to you, but "Tablet PCs" as they're called, have existed for a very long time, and you'd have to be stupid to think the iPad is an entirely new products. Actually, the first tablet was invented in the early 60s, so no, the iPad is nothing new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_PC

The iPad is a big iPod Touch.

I hate to break it to you but where are all of those tablets? They don't seem to be very popular or as well designed. Funny, I didn't hear any mention on every news outlet and website about those like I see about the iPad.

Fact that you've never heard about them doesn't mean they never existed and that Apple created this category, it just means that you need to throw whatever rock you've been living under far away.

The Gemini from ICD, the Notion Ink Adam, Microsoft's courier, how the hell did you manage to not hear about them? Especially since some have been covered here on Android Central and i remember Kotaku has covered one of Sony's because it could have some connectivity with PSN.

When all is said and done, Apple didn't created this category, unlike what you're claiming, and i'd take the Gemini over the iPad any day.

I'm not the only one saying they invented a whole new category, everyone that has reviewed the iPad is calling it that. Do you mean anything that has just a screen without a keyboard and displays text? Then no Apple didn't invent that, they just perfected it to the point that it stands above from the rest. Just like the iPad,iTunes and the iPhone .

You're not the only one who's ignorant in that domain neither. Don't care what people say about the iPad, they're using hardware that existed for a long time along with the iPhone 4.0 OS, and that's what the iPad is.

And i'm not buying anything to read books and magazines that doesn't support e-ink.

As far as I can recall, none of those failed devices were positioned between the iPhone and the Macbook. That's clearly the distinction that you and your brainwashed Android bunch missed. The iPad isn't for geeks. It's for the masses who want to do stuff, have fun and enjoy the device for what it is and not for what some side stander wishes it to be.

iPod - Popularized the mp3 player but that was more to do with marketing. Did a great job locking people into iTunes.

iTunes - Bloated excuse for a media manager which is more a glorified shopping cart for ITMS. Winamp and countless others have been doing this for years without the resource hogging or attempted lock-in

iPhone - showed manufacturers that big screens and decent browsers were important. Not the first nor the best but this one really did popularize the smart phone. Once again, taking existing tech and simplifying it and locking it into Apple's ecosystem.

iPad - I dunno...I've had a tablet for years and it's good for what tablets excel at - drawing, note taking, etc. Not just jabbing with your fingers like a giant iPod. I'd love to see a good hybrid touch/pen tablet but until then I'll stick with a traditional tablet.

If you notice a trend here it's taking things that already exist, cutting down features to a minimum, simplifying, putting it in a slick case, and then charging out the ass for it while tying you into a closed ecosystem that would nickel and dime you for all the stuff you used to get for free online.

Then you're just stupid to buy stripped down/overpriced products when you can get much better for your monney.

Then again, fanboys will always remain a mystery to me.

Another typical micro cephalic Apple Hater who can't debate without resorting to name calling. You may not understand us but I understand Apple Haters like you, you hate anyone or anything that is successful or popular because you lack both qualities.

Just so you know, "microcephalic" is one word, not two.

Have you ever thought of analyzing your extreme defensiveness when anyone criticizes a _gadget_ that you happen to like? It's just a tool. Do you freak out when people say "Matco and Snap-On make a better screwdriver than Black and Decker"? That is the equivalent of what you are doing. Ponder this for a while. Just because you and most average people have never looked at a screwdriver any place but Wal-Mart does not mean that Black and Decker invented the screwdriver or that they make the best one.

Go back to your favourite Apple web site and pounce on people who come trolling for Windows Mobile or Android there. That would at least make sense. Please note, however, that you are on an Android-centric site, proselytizing and getting angry because we don't want to drink the Kool-Aid and are pointing out what we don't like about it. By coming here, you are asking for negative reactions. By getting so angry, you are acting like a cult-member out trying to recruit.

There is nothing new under the sun, son! Innovation and making money is what Apple does better than most. It's a company that makes great products. No one is forced to buy their products, but those who do realize how great the product and the experience are and they love it. It's all about choice , baby. You make yours and I make mine. Live and let live.

Can we say ultimate Apple fanboy? Hey AJF, Apple just loves people like you, and apparently there's a lot of you out there, who are willing to pay top dollar for products that are just "ok". The only revolutionary thing that Apple has done is create the App store. Think about it. If the app store didn't exist then Apple would suck. That's the only thing Apple lovers like you can say about the iPhone and iPod that have an advantage over other similar products. Apple is very good at doing one thing, creating Apple zombies like yourself. Well, for logical people that like the best, inovative products on the market they will leave their iPhones and buy an HTC EVO or HTC Incredible. Many iPhone users are already planning on making the switch even if Apple releases a similar device. They say Apple is too closed minded and those people are tired of the same old "dumb" OS. I laughed when iPhone OS 4.0 was announced like it was some revolutionary update. "Over 100 new features" ...."multitasking"..."Suck our dicks Apple zombies, suck our DICKS." And you sucked it and sucked it good and are still sucking it.

Very intelligent response benth1. I feel even better being a fanboy knowing that people like you are on the other side. Guys, say hello to your poster boy benthl, aren't you proud to be on the same side as him ?

BTW:
Apple posted its Q2 2010 results and to say they’re impressive would be an understatement. Beating analyst expectations in practically every way possible, the Cupertino company sold 2.94 million Macs, 8.75 million iPhones and 10.89 million iPods. Analysts were only expecting 2.7 million iMacs, 6.8 million iPhones and 9 million iPods to be sold. In terms of cold, hard cash, Apple’s revenue was $13.5 billion with a diluted earnings per share of $3.33 making for a net profit of $3.07 billion. As for the current quarter, Apple is expecting revenue to hit $13.0 billion to $13.4 billion with a diluted earnings per share from $2.28 to $2.39.

Also: More than 50 percent of all iPad users have a computer running some variant of Windows in their homes, according to data collected by advertising group Chitika.

"aren't you proud to be on the same side as him ?"

It's not a _side_. It's not a cult; it's not a country. It's a preference based on actual specs and freedom of use, not on slick marketing. There are people who prefer every type of device who are real idiots.

Next, you'll be telling us that you invented trolling and flame-wars, just because it's something you now do(a la Apple).

Apple's innovations aren't really technical. They do make things pretty and easy to use. Technically, the ipod iPhone, iPad etc are nothing special, it's the UI which is special, and the targeting non-techies. If I wasn't a techie, I'd probably want an iPhone. But, I am a techie, and I got a Desire. I haven't got an ipod either.

The main reason I don't buy iThings is because of Apple's tie-ins, and their overcharging. The Desire is possibly a bit behind the iPhone as regards usability, but it's still fantastic, and I expect software updates which will make it surpass the iPhone before long - without costing me anything...

Also, I can get apps which compete with Google, and Google can't stop me!

I can tell from your tone that you are nervous and scared that... Well... the next iPhone is about do major damage to the competition (Droid, Nexus 1, EVO and HTC Incredible.) Deep down you know this. You won't admit it, but you know it. IPhone sales doubled year over year and the momentum is nowhere near peak. The fragmentation, ownership issues and eventual open-platform exploits will have their effects too, but stay strong. I'm sure MacAfee and the other AV software developers are waiting in the wings.

I'll deal with random bad porn apps in my app store to have an infinitely more open and useful operating system on my phone. I used to have an iPhone and I must say I will never return...Viva Android

There's actually porn apps in the Android Market? Really? I've never actually searched for that because well, it sounds stupid to make a porn app... when you have a web browser on the phone for that if you really wish to view porn on your Android phone.

Very true, but then again, i find the "Love Positions" app to be pretty interesting/usefull lol.

I've never come across explicit porn apps tho.

If a kid with an iPhone wants porn, I'm pretty sure he'd think to use Safari and google before seeing if there's an app.

And Safari will bring you to porn.

Jobs is an idiot. But he's right, Android treats you like an adult.

"But he's right, Android treats you like an adult." Haha, I like that.

Also, I too would trade having porn and what-not in our App store for a completely open OS. I honestly can say that I've never searched the app store and accidentally come across porn, you pretty much have to go looking for it, just like any other app.

Porn in the browser, does Jobs not understand how that works? Last I checked, Safari on the iPhone doesn't block porn viewed in the browser.

"can we at least get some quality smut"

haha...here here, I concur absolutely. Until then, does the Android Market have parental controls to block all of those worthless apps?

LOL. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm afraid Jobs' insecurities are going to hurt Apple just like they have in the past.

Shame too. I want Apple to continue to succeed. Their products are always well built, and work as intended every time.

Well, when he goes(or the first one from that generation) it will be the beginning of the end of an era for the tech world, and I don't know him personally, so I wouldn't wish him ill. However, he seems be getting even more controlling since his brush with death. Perhaps he's getting paranoid about his legacy???

The success of Apple is not innovative product (exactly), it is MARKETING! Both Archos and Creative had HDD based MP3 players in the market over a year before the iPod was released. I had a 6 GB Archos Jukebox in 2000 a full year before the iPod was even available. I have never seen a commercial for any Archos product but I have seen no end of Apple commercials. The iPhone was remarkable because Apple had the clout/money to break the stronghold that the wireless carriers in the US held over the phone manufacturers thus allowing the innovation and marketing of the fully capable smart phones we can get today. (Thank you Apple for that.) Note: Apple does an excellent job at making nice looking products with good working interfaces. But, it comes with a high cost.... Apple's lock-in (...we [Apple] believe that we know what people need and they may have ONLY that and no more and if they disagree they are ignorant savages...) Apples seem reliable and trouble free because they hold all the parts in-house no real external support. iMac users are going to be sorry when they start to have enough market share to be targeted by hackers and viruses and no Apple user is prepared... I don't buy Apple products because they are overpriced and I can't stand being told how I may use my device. They put together existing tech (in-line with market direction not really ground breaking per se) in innovative packages and combinations very well, but their pathological insistence that they know better than the users will always limit them. (In a time when all consumer electronics are going multitasking [think quad core computers being common place now] they reject multitasking because they say it's not what people want?) I guess that goes along with the rejection of Flash; you know one of the PRIMARY animation tools on the Internet. But it is somehow not useful, archaic, and unnecessary. You-tube still has lots of content in flash and hulu needs flash... the news site they put in the early iPad ads were flash dependent....... hmmmmmmm

What's up with the name calling. If a person likes the iPhone he or she should have every right to go buy one. If one wants an Android phone he or she should be allowed to buy it. That is the joy of a free market and I wouldn't have it any other way.

And why do we keep insisting on terms like "iPhone killer".

Call it what it is, an enjoy the diverse market we get to have.

The Android phones are iPhone COMPETITORS. (They are ALL touchscreen smart phone offerings/choices)

Relax, and easy on the name calling.

Ditto! It would be nice if they had moderators do something here sometimes. Contrary to those that are calling me an Apple Fanboy above, I don't mindlessly buy any and all Apple products. I just pre-ordered the Incredible and can't wait to try it out. And I especially can't wait to dump my BB Storm!

As if Steve Jobs have never heard of GRINDR?? isn't that worst than the adult sites he talks about on the Android Market..here you have an application where gay guys can hook up, solicit money for sex and post naked pictures for everyone with the application for free. which by the way was an exclusive Iphone only application until about last week when they released it on Blackberry market.

Android is suppose to be open. If there are porn apps on the marketplace so-be-it. Maybe putting them in their own category would be fine enough, but as for taking them out, I say leave Android open.

My 2¢

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Who is he kidding...?

I CURRENTLY OWN A NEXUS ONE ON TMOBILE'S FLEX PAY I WAS WITH ATT FOR 3YRS I WENT FROM A IPHONE 3G TO A NEXUS, MY WIFE IS STILL WITH ATT AND USES MY OLD IPHONE. TMOBILE ALLOWED ME TO GET THE N1 AT 179.99 I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE IT A CHANCE WHILE I WAITED FOR THE NEW IPHONE, I HAD PLANS OF RETURNING TO ATT AFTER THE NEW IPHONE 4 WAS RELEASED. I RECEIVED MY FROYO UPDATE LAST FRIDAY AND EVER SINCE HAVE HAD A HARD TIME EVEN THINKING OF LEAVING MY N1 FOR ANYTHING ELSE. DONT GET ME WRONG I LOVE THE IPHONE I CAME UP WITH IT AND HAVE SHARED A GREAT MANY MOMENTS WITH IT...IM JUST HAVING A HARD TIME REMEMBERING THOSE WHEN IM WITH MY FROYO NEXUS.

I TETHER MY WIFI ACESS POINT FROM MY NEXUS TO MY WIFES IPHONE...SHE LOVES THE FASTER SPEED.