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New component could put 4GB of high-performance RAM in future devices

Smartphones and tablets with 2GB of RAM have become the norm over the past year, but 2014 looks set to push memory capacities to new heights, and Samsung has announced a new component that could herald the arrival of 4GB phones and tablets in the coming year.

The electronics giant has claimed the industry's first 8-gigabit low-profile double-data-rate 4 (LPDDR4) mobile DRAM component, offering 1GB on a single die, which it says is the highest density currently available. Using four of the chips, Samsung says, a single 4GB package could offer "the highest level of performance available today."

The new LPDDR4 memory is said to provide 50 percent higher performance than current LPDDR3 offerings, with improved energy efficiency resulting in the chips using 40 percent less power than the previous generation, at 1.1 volts. The chips are fabricated using "20nm-class" process technology, meaning a process somewhere between 20 and 30nm.

Samsung is targeting high-end "UHD" smartphones, tablets and notebooks with the new DRAM parts, which it'll start offering in 2014. Elsewhere, the company has already hinted at devices with 1440p (2K or QHD) displays and 64-bit Exynos CPUs making up its 2014 smartphone lineup.

Source: Samsung Tomorrow

 
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Duncan1982 says:

Exciting times ahead and although 3gb of ram is fast on a mobile 4gb is better by numbers anyway and it does state more efficient which all round is good news.

It's only going to get faster and faster with tech and connectivity also. To the point perhaps downloading will be a thing of the past eg it will just be there click and it's on your device hmm does sound good :-)

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Jay Holm says:

"Click and it's on your device". We aren't too far from that now, really.

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Duncan1982 says:

Yeh not for some though as we all know China has the fastest speeds and 4g is barely covering 1/3rd of the UK meanwhile LTE-A is out in good ol China and America benefits largely from great connectivity. Maybe in 3 years I will have 4g where I am not counting on that though. Grrr it is slightly irritating. Back to the point yes for some it is almost like that lol

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Jay Holm says:

China has an LTE-A network? Really? What speeds are they getting? 80-100+mbps?

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drokssilva says:

I don't know what speeds but China has an LTE-A network

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NoNexus says:

Not sure about real world, but they set the record for 1.3 Gbps

Not sure we'll get to "click and it's on your device". Sure, network speed and devices are getting faster but apps will get more sophisticated and larger as well. And personally, I think we're about to plateau as far as network speeds go. Not because of tech but because of the carriers. At least for a good 3-5 years. Theres not enough competition and if the DC court says they can start throttling web sites that don't pay up… well, its just not looking good.

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Jay Holm says:

I disagree. Carriers are always looking for more spectrum, more bandwidth. T-Mobile recently just upped the spectrum on it's LTE network, and claims it will do so again in 2014. Then when carrier aggregation comes (when?) it will be even faster. There is definitely room for much more speed. I
And I think it will happen in the next 18mo's, perhaps after that, there will be a 2-3 yr stagnation.

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NoNexus says:

When LTE - A hits the US in a big way then yeah it will hit a plateau but that is still 2-5 years away.

Speed will keep going up until that rollout is complete.

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Paul Simiyu says:

I hope its a efficient 4GB.

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15israellai says:

Sigh, Samsung still king of specs.

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Budius says:

Samsung logic for new high end devices: "moarrrrrr cores!!"
Yeah that's good and all, but a bit of creativity and ingenuity goes a long way, you can ask Motorola, they know.

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Samsung walks all over Motorola. I don't care what AC says, the Moto X is not even close to being the best phone. I tried the moto x 2 times, both times the battery life was horrible, it was laggy, my headphone's button wouldn't work(but works with every other phone), and it would just freeze up at times. I compared the battery life to my old HTC Inspire 4g, which was horrible also. If I had to give up my Nexus 5, I would take the Note 3. But Samsung is the King of android today, just take a look around. I bet you 7 out of 10 people use a Samsung device.

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luniboy26 says:

Don't know whether to take you serious or not because me and others who personally have this device haven't had any of these problems. I don't know this lag you speak of because I've honestly never had it. Only thing my S4 did better was take pictures.

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That's good you like it. There are also a lot of us who tried it and found it inferior to every flagship available today.

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Jay Holm says:

I felt the same about the original Motorola Droid, super popular on Verizon, but I had tons of problems with it, problems with the touch screen the charging port!

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MERCDROID says:

It's great that you like the Moto X. But, that doesn't make it the perfect phone. People will have some issues with every device currently available.

I love my Nexus 5, but even I can admit that I have my share of issues every now and then.

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TLB69 says:

I'm Richard Yarnell and I approve this comment.

Sent from my Note 3 rockin Jelly Bean 4.3

droidhead_1 says:

Ha

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Lmfaooooo

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TheMimic12 says:

Spot on, old chap!

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rampage1979 says:

7 out of 10 people drive civics I guess Honda is king. Lol.

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ddot196 says:

Fanboyism at its finest jeez lol. Perhaps you had a defective unit? Or you're just trolling, I don't really know. Sure Samsung can be the king of specs as you so call it, still doesn't make it the best phones in the world. Different strokes for different folks. I've never had any problems that you mention. I actually owned the htc inspire when it first came to att, and for you to compare the two in terms of battery life is about the most absurd and ridiculous claim I've heard lately. In no way whatsoever did the inspire ever come close to what the moto x can put out in terms of battery life. Sounds like someone's upset AC named the moto x the phone to get over any Samsung phone lol.

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I have a Nexus 5.
I don't care what AC says. I've tried all of these phones myself.
Listening to podcasts for 4 hours with my Bluetooth headphones, my Inspire would drain 40%, the Moto X - 40%, Nexus 5 - 20%, Note 3 -10%. This is real world testing.
Maybe whoever had a bad experience with the Nexus 5 got a defective unit.
I tried the Moto X 2 times with the same bad experience.

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NoNexus says:

Throwing the Note in there isn't fair, it has a DROID maxx battery

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Chris778811 says:

S4>MotoX

fightcrazy says:

Agreed, IMO the Note 3 is far and away the best device to date. The phone has it all, specs, screen, battery and that S-Pen. If you update the S-Voice you can open the screen the same way the Moto-X does without touching it. Not many people realize that, there are so many after market accessories including wireless charging. Let's not forget about it's great camera, nobody talks about it but It takes great pictures and videos. I can go on and on, I have just about every phone to date, I'm sick what can I say, Nothing touches the Note 3 IMO.

I agree with you, the Note 3 is a beast. If I could have flashed an AOSP rom on my Note 3, I would still have it. There are plenty is uses for the Spen on AOSP. Oh well, I'll have to stick with my Nexus 5 for now.

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NoNexus says:

Cm is about ready

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Is there a bootloader unlock or lokie? I may have to get this phone again if that is the case.

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NoNexus says:

Not sure about Verizon, but there are de-knox scripts and for most the bootloader is not locked.

Check out XDA

I checked after I read your first post. I'm with at&t so I'd have to get the International Note 3 or T-Mobile. I've spent so much money this year on phones. I think I'll just stick with my Nexus 5 for a while.

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mssca says:

Samsung is a true innovation based company while Motorola is just a feel good company.

NoNexus says:

Both are sorta right.

For us here on AC, we know that you can do more with less sometimes, but to the average consumer, specs are a huge selling point. Is 3>2? Is 32>16? Sometimes the consumer only sees it in those terms.

MOAR CORES! Not really. Going to 64 bit is a natural progression and a selling point. You bet your damn skippy that the guy selling phones is bringing up that the iPhone has it. Doesn't matter that almost no apps take advantage of it. The US has always been a "bigger is better" nation.

How can you complain about better, faster, more efficient ram? That is just smuckin fart. You really cannot complain about 4gb in the same space.

Most phones have some kind of lag here and there. No sorry all of them do. Deny it all you want but there is not enough ram in most phones to keep the apps you want in memory and have them all be instant on. It is always going to be like that unless we all of a sudden have 64gb of ram, which is not happening. Nor should it. That would kill battery life keeping everything alive like that. It is a delicate balance and with apps getting bigger, you need more ram to accommodate them.

Let's not even bring up that mobile games are ram hungry, and that is still a largely untapped market.

As for the X, yeah they took a different approach. They are adding MOAR CORES but doing it a bit differently. It is a fine phone. I had fun with the X when it was in my grubby little hands. I do think that when Eol comes for it though it will not stand the test of time. To disparage it right now is criminal. I will be very interested in seeing how they advance it. That right there is the key, building on it. Motorola is not the same company that they were a year ago.

Two companies doing the same thing two different ways. Neither is better than the other. Both make damn fine phones. Both have room for improvement

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coinmanmat says:

Bring on the Galaxy S5! Cant wait to see what it has to offer

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Jay Holm says:

Planning on upgrading? I have the S4, and it won't be paid off anytime soon.

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mssca says:

I will be buying S5 as soon as it comes out. I am on S3 now and for S5, I will buy it outright.

TheMimic12 says:

Hope this comes into more than just phones. Tablets that have this RAM could work well when Ubuntu touch goes mainstream.

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TroyBoy30 says:

why dont you try optimizing the OS instead of throwing more ram at it.

Jay Holm says:

That's what Kitkat 4.4+ is.

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mwara244 says:

except it'll be TW 4.4, having 4gb of os inside. Just give me an S5 with vanilla android and the samsung camera software, and I'll be happy, I don't need all the crap they throw inside of it. If I need something else, I'll download an app.

eahinrichsen says:

It sounds like you want an S5 Google Play Edition. Samsung offered an S4 GPE, so you might be in luck.

MERCDROID says:

We will definitely see how long these Google Play Edition devices run their course.

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TheMimic12 says:

I like the idea. Some people like vanilla Android, but prefer sunshine else doing the dirty work. These Google play edition devices are a great concept, because there's more than one phone out there now with vanilla Android and fast updates.

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MERCDROID says:

Spot on!!

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PZR18 says:

Let's hope samsung keeps the tradition & sells a S5 google play edition

& here is to HTC following suit with tge HTC One Max google play edition & an HTC One 2 google play edition

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Bishop_99 says:

I hope this makes it in time for the Galaxy S5.

lyingfromyou says:

Full upgrade in August. Fingers crossed!!! GS5!!!

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tigeryee says:

Will it help battery life? I still feel battery life sucks

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fuzzylumpkin says:

Nice! Now, how about throwing some R&D money battery technology's way?

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Tsruggles says:

Hahaha! Unfortunately they'd have to spend quite a bit to discover a material that works better than the lithium ion technology. It's all about mass. Bigger batteries mean bigger devices, bigger devices mean bigger screens that eat said bigger battery.

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NoNexus says:

Like someone said in a thread yesterday, how about thicker?

The thin is in thing is ridiculous. Add in 5mm of thickness would accommodate a whole lot of battery, but then people would talk about it being a brick...

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PZR18 says:

Truth i dont mind a thicker sturdier phone if i get a killer battery in it

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hmmm says:

That's great. I would rather have a brand spanking new battery that get 4 days of screen on time and is no thicker than current batteries though. RAM isn't really where we need the technology to advance right now even though it sounds awesome on spec sheets. AM I right Moto X owners? Tech specs don't matter much any more. Get us some better batteries.

Dreadcthulhu says:

Samsung is a very large company, and also has people working on improving their batteries. This new RAM will also help with battery life, since it uses less power than the old one. Granted, it won't help much, since most of the time the vast bulk of the power in a smartphone is going to the screen.

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NoNexus says:

You almost cannot have both right now. Tech has to catch up, and through a combination of extra ram, optimization of the os, advancing screen tech, and slightly bigger batteries, it will get there

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HalizDad says:

These days remind me of the computer wars of yesteryear.

s2weden2000 says:

daddy does it again...

Tsruggles says:

Don't you mean 59.60464477539 gigabits Alex Dobie?

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NoNexus says:

You seem to have CPU and storage mixed up

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Tsruggles says:

No, he has gigabits and gigabytes mixed up.

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NoNexus says:

Gotcha

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thatguy97 says:

Incoming note 3 users when it comes to RAM

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AOSPrevails says:

I am more excited to see the reduction in power consumption, espically when LPDDR4 get used on notebooks(Macbook Air already uses LPDDR3).

Duncan1982 says:

Laws of physics says that it will only get faster and faster to what end who knows. It's a great time to appreciate the advances in tech but to also remember the many that will never be able to own such a device in comming Years due to not just the tory government here in the UK and The Obama regime in the states. It will be a case of looking at a picture in a magazine and hoping to win the lottery. So with the pros it does have its cons.

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NoNexus says:

You never fail to bring politics into it. Go play in the politics tab on fark.com. They will love you there, or in freeperland or even wingnutdaily

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PZR18 says:

Truth, its sad to see all this R&D taking place overseas

The Obama administration needs to cut a lot of this regulation so the tech industry comes here & innovates here & creates jobs here

Imagine if president Obama ended the repatriation tax on corporate profits overseas

Apple & others would bring backs billions & maybe trillions to the US to allow those companies to reinvest in the US, create jobs, R&D & new factory's to build their tech here

All U.S. Manufactures shouldn't have to pay taxes since they provide jobs & those workers pay enough taxes already

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NoNexus says:

What?

Manufacturers should not pay taxes because the workers do?

So the top 1% gets bigger, we subsidize them when they make bad decisions, but the middle class foots the bill for the next yacht?

how about this: A tax break for corporations that have 75% of their workforce in the US?

having the corporations pay 0 is a joke.

twolastnames says:

Samsung is a Korean company man.

Also, let's be real. All the giant companies we love, helped create the regulations to make it so expensive nobody new can come into the market. Do you think making us buy $10 light bulbs had anything to do with saving electricity, or with GE and Sylvania wanting to ensure future domination of the light bulb market? I'm on the later side.

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Duncan1982 says:

Haha Yeh OK should keep it to tech I know but it's true mate saying that I will ignore your sarcasm just an accidental rant woooops, oh and please copy and paste when I have Brought politics into any of my posts lol good luck yes Nexus :-p

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Jlav78 says:

Google lowers RAM requirements in 4.4 to 512 mb. Samsung responds by doubling the RAM of flagship future devices.

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NoNexus says:

You can run win7 on one gb too but it doesn't mean you should or will get a good experience

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I agree 100%.

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thatguy97 says:

Its all about optimization and the

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twolastnames says:

Ram that low shuts off a bunch of stuff too, so it's not like there is no tradeoff.

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thatguy97 says:

Keep this up Samsung and you will surpass my 8gb of ram gaming rig lol and

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PZR18 says:

Ya i wish PC's were advancing this fast fml

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NoNexus says:

they were but moore's law is topping out in that arena. not to mention that consumers do not need it to go higher..

twolastnames says:

It's more not needing it. Look at the new graphics cards. SLI'ing 2 or 3 3ghz graphics cards? Insane. The biggest problem is we are going to have more ram than storage if the manufactures keep skimping on storage.

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RusticKey says:

Mother of mercy Samsung. 3gb on my Note 3 is enough to prevent your TouchWiz from lagging, and now you're cramming a 4gb?

Keep it up and you'll surpass my 8gb RAM computer.

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NoNexus says:

you act like this is a bad thing...

Duncan1982 says:

It's just the way things are going 4gb in 2014 and then 5gb or 6gb in 2015 and so on as with the processor it's just natural progression.

Why a few are surprised by this is well surprising lol

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