Nexus 7 and Nexus 5

Nexus 5 first device to have OTA file available for download, with others surely closely behind

Following tightly behind Google's release of Android 4.4.4 factory images for the Nexus 4, 5, 7 (both years) and 10, we're starting to see Nexus devices in the wild receiving the update over-the-air. The Nexus 5 has started to receive its 2.5MB (yes, that small) update, and we've also got OTA URLs for the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10.

Via: XDA

 

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Android 4.4.4 OTA rollout to Nexus devices begins [Updated]

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Never understood why companies fight rooting. They might not like it but it's going to happen regardless if they want it or not. They just needa lay there and learn to enjoy the inevitable.
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It increases the amount of money they need to spend in support from the people who have zero business rooting their devices because they read that it was important. They break their phones then call for help. Then they blame the carrier or manufacturer for their stupidity.

Well I can't lie I've bricked once or twice but just did a search on how to fix it. I can't think of anyone I know that roots, that hasn't bricked at least once.

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Well theirs soft bricking a device, (which I wouldn't even really call a brick) which can be recovered from and then a hard brick. Unrecoverable. Even a soft brick can cost plenty of support hours spent by the companies support department. Even if they eventually deny a warranty claim.
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I have softbricked a couple of times, but never because of rooting. It's really to hard to brick a device just by rooting it.

Yeah, I softbricked phones a few times when I was first learning adb and fastboot. Rooting won't brick your phone. Fucking around and flashing the wrong bootloader, on the other hand...

I think that's personally a load of bullshit. I don't think the amount of people that fall into that case are as numerous as you or others would have us believe.

Well.. Think of it like this.. if 1% of android users Rooted their phones... Sounds like a low, reasonable percentage. But there are at least 500 million devices out there. so.. 1% is 5 Million devices.

The companies could ship their phones with an "enable root access" option in the developer settings. Then there wouldn't be an issue with people messing up their phones during the root process etc.

Oh yeah? How much more would you like to hear that Android is a virus ridden mess because dumb people click links that they shouldnt or download "free" apps? Then turn around and sue the OEM because they were not protected from their own asshattery (didn't that jsut happen with in app purchases)

it isnt, but is that the route you want to go? Especially where there are alternatives that are just as strong (not Mac is not equal to windows in anyway)

I can't say what is right for the masses. I use Linux computers and, of course, have full root access to all of them and have never had any malware, so I don't quite fit into any mainstream category. I do think there needs to be a balance.

I guess my point is- MS-Windows desktops typically give all owners "root" access and are often riddled with malware and the manufacturers are not sued into oblivion as implied above. You can't protect everyone from themselves.

Fortunately, since I run Nexus phones and tablets, I have never really had the need to root... there have been few vendor annoyances or heavy interfaces I had to deactivate. Doesn't mean I don't want to have the option, however.

Fastboot is not an official rooting method. It is a diagnostic tool that you can do a whole bunch of things with. Installing root files could be one of them, but that is not the intention of the tool

So I shouldn't download Badoink from the Fake Google Play store and clean my android device because the link says my phone is infected with 14 viruses

Nexus devices almost do just that. You have fastbook oem unlock. Then all you need to do is adb push a su binary to xbin and a SuperUser.apk to /system/app. Might have to remount system as -rw I believe before the pushing, but you get the idea.

Maybe. But more likely it is to patch exploits. Gaining root through towelroot or any similar method is a vulnerability. The only method of rooting a phone that I can think of that isn't an exploit is through an unlocked boot loader. Sadly those seem to be going away again.

Sean, if someone roots, or attempts to root their device, the device will inform them that to do so will void the warrantee. You can't blame the carrier, or manufacturer for this. You are assuming responsibility for your own actions.

For years now I have rooted my tablets.The major problem with rooting is that some will not take the time to get good advice, accept it, and learn to follow it to the letter. Even if you do brick the tablet or phone, there are almost always workarounds to recover control of your device.

At present I rarely use other computers, but my primary device is one that many would, in ignorance, call obsolescent or obsolete. This is a Motorola Xoom!

However, having rooted this tablet has proven the value of rooting. I went through the process of finding information, copying what I needed, going step by step, and rooting the Xoom. Initially this seemed daunting, but in the process I've gained some expertise regarding the tablet. Much of this information has come from the Xoom forums of XDA.

Well, what has come of this? At present My Xoom is running a custom Android 4.4.4 Rom from Omnirom together with the most advanced versions of PA_GAPPS. The result is a screaming, bleeding edge tablet that is indispensable to me. It never leaves my side. I don't know if we well be able to develop the Android L Roms, but it's for sure that there are very few tablets at the moment that can equal the BYOD capabilities of my Xoom.

Lay there and take it? I suppose they should accept the inevitable and just have it covered under the warranty and continuously replace the devices for free. All that to cover the maybe 5% of people that might do it.

Seems legit

I said that as a root user and it would benefit someone like me. But as in general no I can see why they wouldn't just "lay there and take it". I heard some about towel root and I thought it was just another work around for root. I didn't know it was causing security problems. I do agree that people root or at least " try to" root their phones, that have no need or good reason to.

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and most do not try. Most of that has to do with locking things down. That is a good thing.

Only the ones who know half of what they are doing should attempt it at all and that is only after lots of research...

PS I root everything as well.

I didn't mean "people try to root" as in a mass number. I meant regardless if it's 1 or 100 people. Some try for the hell of doing it with no other reason but to be rooted. I can only speak for myself but I've had coworkers ask me to root their phone and when I ask what they plan on doing, more than a few have followed with "what can I do with root access". Needless to say I refuse these request cause I don't want them coming back pissed at me when they completely screw their phone up. I'm guessing this is a reason why some companies refuse and fight it, as stated by a previous person.

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I rooted so I could...
- Conduct a Hangouts videochat in 4G, not just in WiFi
- Soft-shuttoff, using RiBoot.
- Use Nova Launcher's "root only" features, such as eliminating the padding around widgets so my 6.4-inch Sony Z Ultra GPe's display has as much usable glass as a 6.9-inch display.

Patching Towelroot is not fighting root. It would be fighting a catastrophic security hole. Using the same method Towelroot uses, ANY app, even one from the Play Store, can do whatever the heck they want with your phone because ANY app can gain FULL ROOT ACCESS anytime without any consent from you whether you are rooted or not. This same thing had to be patched on tons of Linux systems.

Rooting is fine , OEMS should just allow unlockable bootloaders like nexus (some do). Rooting with an exploit like towelroot however is nice and all.. But all it is really doing is pointing out a security hole that allowed an installed apk to gain root privileges. Imagine how many bad things that could lead to.

Root in its self is a security risk. This is the reason alot of banking apps will not run on a rooted device. I mean think about it. All it takes is for say an xposed mod with the right set up and it can act as a keylogger and get every password you punch in. Ask any real Android security specialist. They will tell you to remain stock and never root.

I totally disagree with this. Running under a VPN, using good antiviral software, and a program similar to Roboform thoroughly protects a rooted device.

The benefits of rooting do so much to outweigh the problems that you can't believe it.

By the way, because I am rooted I have been running a custom Android 4.4.4 Rom on my tablet since July 2nd.

I wouldn't have a tablet that wouldn't allow me to make my tablet better than when I got it.

Me either. I get administration access to every computer I buy and phones and tablets are computers. I should be able to do whatever I want with it.

Root is more than just being able to remove carrier logos. It's about being able to run SSH tunnels, etc to secure myself when I'm at, say, the airport on WiFi (as an example).

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It's an exploit. These are Nexus devices so you have a SUPPORTED method of rooting through fastboot. They're trying to keep the OS secure because you definitely WON'T be getting government contracts with known exploits just sitting out there.

Because the vulnerabilities that allow you to root your device typically also allow bad actors to root their malware on your device.

Artem from Android Police already confirmed it doesn't break it on his G+. It does have a warning when you install it though that it may harm your device but doesn't stop it outright.

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It has a new radio. So it's not "just" a security patch (and I'm sure you know by now it didn't patch that).

Well, It's not a terrible idea. Considering Nexus devices are easily rooted by normal means. But then realize, if there is a pathway for a software root, it's possible to build it into a malicious app, and that app now has root access to your device.

And then Apple can brag more about the "Toxic Hellstew" of android Malware.

This must be why only the unlocked Moto X got 4.4.3. They probably knew this was coming before they got other versions ready

I got the OTA 4.4.4 on my Nexus 10 a couple of hours ago so it's rolling on that device too. Shockingly though it didn't break MX Player Pro as every update does!

Well, the battery life on my N5 has been progressively worse under 4.4.3. I hope this "fixes" it even though it appears to be a security update.

Let's start hitting the "check for update" key frequently :P

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Me neither the regular version has stock just with some useful moto apps

Posted from my Nexus 7 2013 or Samsung galaxy S5

I'd purchased it after the sale of Motorola to Lenovo, concerned that Lenovo may impede the update process. I figured the certainty of fast and continuous updates outweighed the inclusion of a few moto apps that I likely wouldn't use anyway. That was the point for me at the time, now I'm not so sure since the non GPE Moto G is on 4.4.3 from what I've read.

Seems this is a fairly boring update. I'll not worry about sideloading this time and just accept the OTA in a few weeks. Apparently there is a new radio though...

I got a little impatient and flashed the factory image. Unfortunately, I hadn't previously unlocked my booloader on my Nexus 4 and forgot that doing so wipes your device! Previously, I had only flashed OTAs. Needless to say I spent some time last night restoring my phone to a usable state. Luckily, due to cloud backup I'm back up with no lost data but it was still a pain. I guess my phone was due for a wipe and refresh anyway.

If you use nexus root toolkit, you can flash new Roms and re-root without losing your settings or apps+data or internal storage.. Just check "no wipe mode" in settings..

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Got paranoid about updating my Nexus (2012) to 4.4.3 when I saw some of the issues crop up on Google's product forums (esp. the boot loops). So... when 4.4.4 rolls out to my Nexus, will the update screen show 4.4.4, or will I still need to download 4.4.3 first?

Yeah most likely you would have to update it to 4.4.3 first… .you're not the only one who didn't update your nexus I'm in that club too… I'm just waiting to see if the software would still have bugs before I update… if you do decide to update let me know how it turns out for you.

Thanks to both of you for the info. Going to mull it over on the drive home. :) I'll very likely update, though.

I haven't recieved OTA update for my NEXUS 5...how do they short the phones while sending update notifications ?

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4.4.3 on my Nexus 4 has killed internet access for some apps (Google search,play store) but not android central. Have seen a few people mention this on the forums. Is anyone seeing it with 4.4.4?

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Why do I keep getting "failed to download" the OTA file from the Google server?

(for Nexus 5?)

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That's weird. I didn't really hear many people getting the OTA. I hope it didn't get pulled. We will know if 4.4.5 gets released tomorrow lol!

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Just got it OTA on my N5, hopefully it fixes the battery drain problems I've been having.

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Got my OTA 4.4.4 update for my Nexus 5 at 15:00 Eastern, had checked 15 minutes earlier and it wasn't yet available.