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"We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don't want anything to limit that."

The dust is still setting following Friday's $1.049 billion ruling against Samsung in its patent trial with Apple., and now Google is weighing in with its own official statement  The short statement, sent to The Verge, distances Android itself from the patents Samsung was found to be infringing, saying most don't relate to the "core Android operating system." That's true of features like bounce-back scrolling in the original Galaxy S, but of course there are a few notable exceptions, such as tap-to-zoom. Google also brings into question the validity of other patents, saying they're being "re-examined by the U.S. Patent Office."

There's also a comment on the fast-moving nature of the mobile world, and Google says that all involved in the industry are "building upon ideas that have been around for decades." Of course, we already know Google's not much of a fan of software patents in general. The company's public policy director recently remarked that they're "not helpful to the marketplace."

Here's today's statement from Google in full.

The court of appeals will review both infringement and the validity of the patent claims. Most of these don't relate to the core Android operating system, and several are being re-examined by the US Patent Office. The mobile industry is moving fast and all players — including newcomers — are building upon ideas that have been around for decades. We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don't want anything to limit that.

Source: The Verge, via: iMore

 

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Google reacts to Samsung trial: Most claims 'don't relate' to core Android OS

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doesn't matter what google has to say, Samsung going to have to pick another fancy to mimic. I mean how hard is it to come up with something that no other company is currently doing that is earning them lots of money... how about going into the future and making a feature that allows your phone to talk to you without you pressing the "siri" button? Like with motion detection and it senses you near by and tells you if you have a missed call or text. I dunno something. But these ideas can't be that hard to come up with. From what I see the S3 looks even similiar to the iphone(white/silver?) then it has all the similiar features like Siri. Oh it was just a coinsedence that android got this feature when Siri came out or was Android planning this the pass 5 years, wrong

The S3 looks nothing like the iPhone. Siri was publicly demoed long before Apple bought it, and Google had similar functionality already in Android and in the works.

Right now for samsung gs3,galaxy note,galaxy note 10.1,galaxy note 2 is ranking in all of which wasn't included on list so apple could go fumble somewhere else

Siri already existed. Apple simply bought it and improved upon it. Google Now's interface is new, but the underlying search capability was already built into Android before Apple even bought Siri. Google simply improved upon it. If anything could be said, it's that Google put more work into Voice Search, creating it from the ground up, than Apple whom bought it and patched it.

Let's name a product that has been around about 100 years that is basically the combination of the works of many different inventors and ideas. Every single one of them look pretty much the same and the User Interface is so much the same that any person can get one and operate it no matter who it's made by.

CARS! same UI, same looks, same purpose but we all have our personal preference and we still to this day debate who's is better.

"I invented nothing new. I simply assembled the discoveries of other men behind whom were centuries of work. Progress happens when all the factors that make for it are ready and then it is inevitable." Henry Ford

Google holds a very respectable position. It is unfortunate that Samsung insisted on copying superficial things like trade dress, and they got slapped deservedly (even though the fine is disproportionately high to the damage). It is a pity that Samsung's misguided actions served to fuel the stupid arguments against Android as an OS.

It is kind of a relief that Google is reacting so quickly. Seems like they've carefully looked over the items of interest and realized they are not to blame (for the most part). I'm curious to see if most Android OEMs are going to change how they create their custom UI overlays. I know HTC was hit by a patent claim that they implemented a fix for to be in compliance, but I don't know if that was a core Android OS behavior or HTCs custom implementation?

It's the appearance of a device. All of Samsung's phones guilty of this were told they look too much like the iPhone.

To me, this is what is key here: "...validity of the patent claims. Most of these don't relate to the core Android operating system, and several are being re-examined by the US Patent Office."

Invalidation of these patents will help take care of this problem as it will stop this idiocy.

^^This^^ Apple and Android are both based off of Linux, so there is no way that Apple can directly attack Android. Apple's only saving grace for it's lawsuits is going after the Android OEMs. And the only thing being affected by this lawsuit is Touchwiz. If Samsung only introduced Nexus devices from here on out(not saying this would happen, just a what if), then Apple could only go after Google after that. But, many of Apple's patents may be revoked for how absurd they are worded. It's funny how the news is saying that Apple's victory will mean fewer smartphone choices. With Samsung moving towards bigger flagship smartphones, trade dress is completely mute. And though the amount for damages is $1 billion, it's pocket change considering that Samsung is invested in more than just the smartphone and tablet business.

"Apple" isn't based on anything, since it's the company name. iOS, on the other hand, is based off MacOSX afair, which in turn is based loosely on BSD, not Linux.

^^ LMFAO!!!!! And to the serious shit a trade dress is basically you can see the phone and automatically know what it is such as you distinguish an iPhone 30 feet away (because you want to smash it with a hammer and reveal apples dirty little secret that Samsung makes most if the parts) and scratch your head as to what Droid or android phone they have

Maybe the positive here is that it will push more phone makers toward stock Android as that looks nothing like an iturd. If they don't skin it, they can't be sued for infringing.

Another question. Will they sue the carriers if they add a skin that, God forbid, has ugly round cornered squares as icons?

My question is, "Is Apple's business worth $1.049 Billion to Samsung". Samsung needs to stop supplying Apple with parts and processors.

You make and sell cheeseburgers at a restaurant. You also have a meat market. You sell hamburger meat to Andrew for his restaurant. He buys $50,000 worth of meat every year. At his restaurant he uses that meat to make cheeseburgers shaped like 5 point stars. It becomes an instant hit. He patents the idea. You want in on some of the action. You make cheeseburgers with 6 point stars. He sues you for $10,000. What do you do? Continue selling meat to him or be stubborn and quit doing business with him and lose out on $50,000 each year. Either way Andrew will find someone to buy meat from.

Meanwhile HTC is selling cheeseburgers shaped like hearts with no removable toppings and Motorola just throws theirs in a blender.

Excellent analogy. It makes no financial sense for Samsung to stop doing business with Apple, regardless if they are at odds. Apple is still one of Samsung's biggest customers, if not the biggest, accounting for about 9% of Samsung's yearly revenue.

It's ridiculous that it's costing companies money because Apple was given patents on stuff they didn't even create. Slide to unlock has been around for centuries and pinch to zoom was stolen from Mitsubishi. Apple made a very simple and easy to use phone, but most of the ideas already existed.

That's because "good artists copy, great artist steal"...unless you steal from crApple, then it's infringement and expect to be sued!

Apple did not come up with Siri, Siri is a remake of The Genius Button that started with T-Mobile MyTouch devices. The Genius button was out way before Siri why do you think Apple isn't trying to sue HTC over it

Samsung, not Google (Android), blatantly copied the iPhone. Google is right to distance themselves from a company like this. I wonder what Samsung will do now that they can simply copy everything.

Yeah, right? All those Samsung Android phones that were outdated and getting shelved anyway for newer far superior models, and Apple still buying parts from Samsung, plus what's yet to come, what will poor Samsung do now? Hmmm, I bet they'll just change a few things and keep right on making money. ;) The jury already admitted they didn't even understand the case (with all it's vaguely termed "patents" and tomfoolery) and the foreman pretty much decided the verdict for them. If that's not grounds for a mistrial I don't know what is. Who really thought Apple wouldn't win? U.S. company in a U.S. court, odds were stacked from the start. It's no wonder Apple is getting the public backlash over this sham of a "win". lol Samsung won in the other cases so far abroad btw so it's far from over yet. Apple users really are sheep it seems.