Jelly Lloyd

Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is official and coming soon to an Android smartphone near you. Maybe.

It's that time of year again! We've got a brand spankin' new version of Android in Jelly Bean, and almost every device isn't running it. If you've got a GSM flavored Galaxy Nexus, or aren't afraid to dive in and hack the daylights out of your phone, you might be happily enjoying the latest sweet treat from Google. That means you know what all the fuss is about. Jelly Bean may look a lot like Ice Cream Sandwich on the surface, but the performance and polish are worlds apart. If you're using one of the many other Android-powered handsets or tablets, and don't want to (or can't) get hacking, you're waiting. And probably not very patiently. And lest we advanced users forget -- that describes the vast majority of Android users.

So you're scouring the 'net, looking for news about your device and any potential Jelly Bean update. We have been, too. As usual, there isn't going to be very many "official" promises of Jelly Bean, but you'll find plenty of speculation. We are all Android, all the time. We like to think we have a bit of insight into how things work, and we love to share it with you. Hit the break, and see what we think on the matter.

Let me start with a little bit of information that most of us never consider. I've spent a good bit of my life working with Linux running on small, cheap, embedded devices. Not smartphones, but from an OS standpoint, not very different. From an engineering standpoint, once a device has "gone gold" and shipped, it's done. To translate that into Android terms, once the HTC Rezound was delivered and found to work as advertised, the engineering group stops focusing on it. They have a new project to try to finish on-time and under-budget. The thoughts of updating the operating system of the Rezound, or making any changes that aren't bug-fixes will never enter the engineers mind. Marketing and sales will drive that. When it's determined that an OS update will be profitable, someone in a meeting breaks the news to the fellows in engineering -- who aren't very happy that they need to pull people off a new project to work on an old one. It's not that the engineers don't care, it's just that there are only 24 hours in a day. This is just how a fast-paced, high-tech industry operates. Innovation and new products take priority, because that's how money gets in the bank.

On the other side, are users (that'd be you and me) who want new features. Some of us are savvy, and we realize that there are no hardware restrictions to keep us from getting them, and it all depends on the willingness of the manufacturer to make the changes. We don't care about new cool products we've never heard of yet, and won't be around for us to buy for months and months. We are at odds with the folks designing and building the equipment we love so much.

In the end, compromises are made. Software engineers are pulled from new projects and assigned to updating the Rezound to the next version of Android. They have a smaller budget, have to work around schedules of the hardware guys who will have to answer questions about drivers and support, and their under pressure from you and me to get their collective butts in gear and deliver our OS update. It's no fun to be in that position.

Once complete, all this is repeated at the carrier level for branded phones. You don't think Verizon or AT&T just say "cool beans, that ICS update is done for the Motorola Gizmo 4G LTE HD. Push it!" do you? They have to pull people to test, and test, and test. They are under pressure from their boss, because if they let something slip through that causes a lot of support issues, the folks who count the money will not be happy. It's a vicious cycle, and one we don't consider when we start complaining about not getting an update.

Just keep all this in mind, and you'll have a little insight as to why it takes so long, or why some phones and tablets are never going to get upgraded. I know Apple can do it, but Apple is a special case. They build mobile devices to power an ecosystem, like Amazon did with the Kindle Fire. The compelling reason to own an Apple mobile product is because "all the apps". Making sure all the apps work on all the devices is what drives their business model. Google looks to be going that direction -- let's hope it works as well for them.

Whew. I'm out of breath, so let's get right down to it.

HTC

HTCThe HTC One X (this includes the One XL and EVO LTE) and HTC One S will get Jelly Bean ported into Sense 4.0  -- I'm sure of it. I want to hope that the Vivid, and the Rezound get Jelly Bean, but I'm not nearly as sure. I honestly don't see HTC spending time or money to put older versions of Sense on top of Jelly Bean. The hardware is sufficient (every phone since the second-generation Desire could probably run JB just fine) but it's a lot of work for very little benefit on HTC's side.

Phones like the Sensation series, or the Amaze are out in the cold, I think. They are just too "old" in smartphone terms and ICS is where they remain until they go to that big recycle bin in the sky.

The dark horse here is the One V. Yes, the little One V with half the horsepower than all of his big brothers. It has one thing going for it, and that's Sense 4. Since Sense 4 is going to have to be integrated with JB anyway, I'm sure someone at HTC is thinking about dropping it on the One V. Remember, these guys are nerds and love that sort of thing. If it works well enough, they will want to share it. We'll have to wait and see. But wouldn't that be cool?

Samsung

SamsungEvery phone since the Galaxy S II is capable of running Jelly Bean, and should run it well. But see the big wall of text above, and realize that isn't the whole picture. The Galaxy S III will be updated. Probably not as soon as we would like (especially the US versions), but I'm sure they are already at work getting it done.

The Galaxy Note will get Jelly Bean, but only after the Galaxy Note 2 appears. Rumors say the Note 2 is coming this year, so they won't pull anyone off until it's finished. We don't have to like it, but that's how it goes.

The Galaxy S II will get Jelly Bean. Yes, I think it will. It will be an old version of TouchWiz so as not to change the user experience too awful much, but I think Samsung will spend the time and money to get Jelly Bean and the last-gen TouchWiz to play nice together.

The Note and the Galaxy S II are going to take a long time to get it though. Priority is going to go to getting the current-gen phones and their version of TW updated. Once that's done, even less time and less money will be directed to the older models, but it will come. Eventually.

Unfortunately, I don't think any of Samsung's other models will get any Jelly Bean loving. There's just too many, and focus will be on the multi-million sellers.

Motorola

MotorolaThis is a crapshoot. Google says they are going to try and be hands-off with Moto, but does anyone really believe that? Blur isn't going to disappear, but Google controls the money so ultimately, they control the decision. Having said that, I think the RAZR (and RAZR MAXX) and all phones after will see Jelly Bean. The Photon and Bionic could probably run it just fine, but does anyone really see money being spent on either? They seem to have been forgotten, and unfortunately I don't see that changing.

I also think we're done seeing updates (and releases) of qwerty "Droids". Your Droid 4 isn't going to see an update. Thin is in.

Don't shoot the messenger!

 

LG

LG

The Optimus 4X HD and Optimus LTE 2 might see Jelly Bean. LG also might try to squeeze it onto the Optimus Vu. But realistically, that's where it ends. LG struggles with Android updates, and while I'm sure they are working on it, they aren't there yet.

Sony

SonyHad you asked me six months ago, I'd have said that Sony would be pumping out beta and dev previews of Jelly Bean for every phone capable ASAP. They had a really good track record there for a while, but then things sort of came to a grinding halt. The Xperia Ion shipped with Gingerbread. I don't like the new direction Sony is heading, but I'm afraid it's going to continue. Maybe it's a bit of restructuring since the buy-out of Ericcsson. Maybe they are working just as hard, but sharing less. Whatever it is, I think any Jelly Bean updates for existing Sony devices will be as rare as hen's teeth. That's a pity -- their hardware is so sexy and capable.

 

The rest

OEMs like Huawei, or Pantech might surprise us. We don't hear a lot from them, and they aren't under the microscope like the big players are. It wouldn't surprise me to see random Jelly Bean updates for phones that aren't as popular come out of left field. It also wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't happen. We have to take a wait-and-see approach here.

Tab​lets

Tablets

ASUS and ACER will get Jelly Bean on every tablet with Tegra 3. I'm sure of it. The rest, well, I don't see it happening.

Samsung will release 11 new tablets running Jelly Bean and promise updates for one-third of their old models -- which will never happen. Yes I'm skeptical. Look at the ICS picture and you'll see why.

Motorola will eventually get the Jelly Bean update pushed to their Xooms (the LTE and European Wifi versions), but not nearly as fast as we would like. The Good news is that it's really easy to do it yourself, and people will. I also think they will update the Xyboards, but not change that crazy name.

Archos. Who knows what Archos has planned? They will either update all their 2012 tablets to Jelly Bean, or forget about them and build new models that are just as clunky but run Jelly Bean out of the box. They make a great tablet for tinkerers and power users, but they are a bit flaky for the average consumer.

We'll see a slew of cheap $100 craplets running Jelly Bean come from the far east before Christmas. 99-percent of them will suck. The few that stand out will get some media attention, but soon be forgotten. Those tablets are built for quick and dirty impulse buys, and we don't expect that to change.

Putting it all together

The first thing to remember is that this is in no way official. Phil, Alex, myself and all the writers talk about this kind of thing all the time, and we spend enough time on it that our predictions usually ring pretty true. That comes with the territory -- we start to think like OEMs and carriers.

Between now and forever, we'll hear manufacturers and carriers make promises and publish timetables about all this. More than half of it will turn out wrong. It's the nature of the beast, and I tried to explain how we think the process works a little at the beginning of this article. Nobody is happy that they are waiting for all the new features they keep seeing touted on blogs and everywhere else. We certainly aren't. But there's not a lot we can do about it. 

Hopefully things like the PDK and other initiatives Google thinks up will help. We're skeptical, but there's always hope. For now we either have to wait and see, or take things into our own hands. If that ever changes, the first round is on me.

 
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I hope they update it. If they don't, and only give us one update, that puts a dent in their status as being good at updates. Then again, nearly every ICS build has been terrible.

It's like, reading is your friend or something.

"ASUS and ACER will get Jelly Bean on every tablet with Tegra 3. I'm sure of it. The rest, well, I don't see it happening.."

Well building for Tegra 3 is not that much different for building for Tegra 2.
Two cores vs 4 cores isn't something you have to change the software for.

So the Tegra version isn't the limiting factor here.

Neither would most of the other roms for hardware.
Remember that software that handles the Radio, the digitizer, the screen drivers, is already "in the can". It doesn't have to be re-written. And the change from the API calling conventions for JB are not that much different than for ICS, ESPECIALLY when you have to do it for your newer products anyway. Its just NOT that big of a job.

If it fits in memory it should be fairly easy. (If JB is as sped up as it is claimed, it may in fact be lighter weight than ICS, and might run fine on older platforms.)

But there is precious little business case for building that upgrade when A) it costs money, even back-porting the Tegra 3 build to Tegra 2, and then having to push that to millions of tablets, when B) there is no money reward for doing so, and C) it will suppress new tablet sales.

I've often thought that if, after some number of years, you could BUY a new OS version it would encourage the manufacturers to keep them up to date as long as the hardware was capable.

Would Samsung abandon so many phones if they could get $10 per handset for the latest release that could possibly work on the device? $10 bucks time a few million handsets after a while adds up to real money. (best Everett Dirkson voice). You can hire a lot of programmers for 10 million bucks.

Would you pay $10 after say X number of free updates or X number of months?

Wow, you are so wrong that I stopped reading after the first line. I am not sure I've ever seen someone be so wrong about something. The fact that you think the Tegra 3 has 4 cores tells me all I need to know.

Edit: Well I did read the second line, then I stopped.

Well you should have kept on reading, you might have learned something.
Tegra 3 has 4+1 core, but the 5th is managed not by the OS but solely by the chipset. Software can't even see it.

There is a reason they call it a 4+1 chipset and not a 5-core chipset. While technically the Tegra 3 does have 5 cores, it behaves like and is advertised as a quad- core chip for the reason stated by icebike above.

In response to the asshole above who didn't read icebike's whole post, get a clue. You can't tell someone they "can't be more wrong"unless you read their entire argument, and his arguments make sense.

Yes, reading is your friend.

"The first thing to remember is that this is in no way official."

So, the lowly OG Transformer could very well get the update. If not an official one, the Developer community may put one together.

I'm still waiting for the update to reach my Galaxy Nexus, and I think I'm going to just sell off my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and get the Nexus 7.

"Every phone since the Galaxy S II is capable of running Jelly Bean" I'd like to amend that. The SGS1 runs ICS quite well, especially considering it's age. I expect JB to do a similar job. They are basically Nexus S's after all. This is not to say I expect it to get it (I know SGS1 won't from Samsung) but the original can run it just fine. There are already Alpha roms with only GSM not working.

Nope it won't get Jellybean.

/sarcasm If you can compile android for it already, I'm pretty sure it will come in the next month

My beloved Cappy shipped with eclair and Samsung supported it up until gingerbread. CyanogenMod brought me ICS and Lord willing Jelly Bean as well.

Likewise. I am running CyanogenMod on my cappy with the Devil Kernel. Couldn't be happier.
Plus...I installed Google Now...works like a champ!

>"Motorola will eventually get the Jelly Bean update pushed to their Xooms (the LTE and European Wifi versions), but not nearly as fast as we would like"

You forgot to mention the USA Xoom WiFi (essentially a Nexus), it will be one of the first devices with Jellybean, supposedly. You can't get much faster than that, can you??

My bet, knowing how ASUS and NVIDIA work, is that an official JB update will never ship for Tegra 2 devices. If you look at all of the talk coming out of NVIDIA these days you can clearly see the direction: Tegra 3 is the here and now focus with Tegra.Next being pushed for early 2013. CyanogenMod will likely be the only way us TF101 customers ever get to see JB, I'm sad to say.

Awesome post Jerry!!

My question is WHEN THE HELL IS GOOGLE GOING TO HOLD MANUFACTURERS TO THE FIRE FOR THE PROMISE OF 18 MONTHS??? I mean, i root all my phones, so i know i can get them to whatever when i want, but it would sure make it easier with source from the oem for updated kernel stuff!!

I don't see why Samsung even put the button on my US Galaxy tab 7.0 plus. I've never gotten to use it. the ICS update was through Kies and I don't know if I'll ever get jelly bean, Samsung promised it almost a year ago, where is it Samsung?

Yes, but with Sprint at the helm, anything is possible.

/former Evo3D owner/Sprint customer as of tomorrow.

well i would really enjoy an android phone but i got so mad at Verizon for blatantly lying about features and updates with my last one i got an iphone so they would keep their slimy hands off it.

android i miss you, at least i got cm9 on my touchpad.
maybe if i get some money i'll buy a nexus off contract, they're getting pretty cheap here.

Ha, honestly I was expecting this post to just be a giant NO, followed by a link to buy the Nexus :P

I was surprised when I saw that Moto was really gonna bring ICS to my bionic. I'd be absolutely dumbfounded if it got moved up to 4.1. Maybe some devs well be able to pull it off. But with the whole cdma/LTE business even that seems doubtful, as much as I like this phone. It's cursed just like the Thunderbolt i had.

I think it's pretty simple for Moto. The Bionic and Razr family both use the OMAP 4 chipset (slightly newer in the Razr, but very close). Same screen resolution, etc. I think the Bionic will benefit from all its similarity to the Razr and the Razr's popularity. I don't think it would take much more cost to modify the Razr JB update to the Bionic.

This is the kind of thing that made Apple "The Evil Empire" among common folks. They would release upgrades too advanced for their previous devices and ultimately force people that really cared into forking over half a G for a new device with an update only a year after. "Nature of the beast" is right... and that beast is money hungry. Te conosco bacalao...

You really believe that? If so, I'm quite surprised. I note that Apple's iOS 5.x is still supporting the iPhone 3Gs; iOS 6 is still going to support the iPhone 3Gs. Granted there are things that the older devices simply can't do because of hardware limitations, but if you're happy with what you've got (on Apple's platform) from a functionality standpoint it seems to me that Apple is steadfastly evolving the software to the best of the hardware's capability.

I'm sure you understand that eventually all things run out of their useful life.

Good write up Jerry... As always

Personally, I don't really care if my Atrix is running Gingerbread , Ice Cream Sandwich or even Jelly Bean ... as long as Its stable & I can customize it the way I want it (Launchers, icons ... the works, rooting & ROMs ain't my thing though)

Don't get me wrong, I won't mind having the official ICS on my Atrix ... as long as it still have Motorola's Messaging App !
If Motorola removed it as a part of their "Tuning MotoBlur Down" proccess, I won't update to ICS

That's just me , I'm weird & picky like that

While I expect this to go over like the proverbial lead balloon I would definitely pay $5-$10 for full upgrades (2.2-2.3 or 2.3-4.0 or 4.0-4.1, the maintenance/security updates 2.3.1, 2.3.2, etc) and I think on the major platforms (Razr, GS II/III, One series) it would definitely speed up the development of new software for the OEMs (and maybe they split the revenue with the carriers for their testing). It's always about money and if they could make a little money at it (and for the major phones this would be in the millions of dollars and therefore worthwhile for the OEMs and the carriers). It would be way better than waiting months/years for updates and the OEMs/carriers would be more likely to stick to a schedule. For those of you who like "Free" you can stick to rooting and custom roms (although I hope all of you using custom roms support your devs. Same thing for apps - if an app is free and there is a paid version I believe you should pay for it so the dev will continue to work on it and make other better software. A buck or two is not too much to ask for useful software. I remember when PC software (at least useful stuff other than MS used to be $30-50 at the low end (my cut off is usually $100 MAX). JMHO.

While I prefer rooting, say a 10-20 fee for updates across a 2yr device cycle would be a great idea for most people who get smartphones. If the carriers would make it an available option during the 1st year of owning a device, I could see many of my friends taking that option. Maybe only make it available on certain phones certain specs, simply to ensure future compatability. Trying to force ICS or JB on a low-end single core crap phone is silly, but the option on a dual or quad core device would be a great idea. Just asked my wife about the idea, and she agrees, and she is very not-tech-savvy.

If you just got upgraded to ICS I don't think I'd hold my breath waiting on JB. Hell only 10% or so of android devices are even on ICS. Some devices are still waiting.

JERRY
Thank you yet for another fantastic write up. Yep....A/C don't leave home without it.
I have a very straightforward question. Lets forget SD card removable Batt, bells and whistles. Lets do hardware to hardware, radios, wifi range and radio,signal fallback, audio loudness and quality. Which is the better phone? The OneX or the S3? Which has less issues? Which has better support?
Keep up the great work!

Great article! For me though, I'm completely happy with stock Gingerbread on my Thunderbolt. It’s very stable and works great! As such I have no interest in the scheduled ICS update for it next month (if it indeed does get released). In fact, I recently rooted to block OTA’s to ensure the phone stays on the current version. I'll look for a new version of Android on a future phone. :)

Timeliness of JB from HTC and Sprint will determine if I root and go to CM10 sooner rather than later. Hopefully Asus being makers of Nexus 7 will speed JB to my Transformer Prime (seeing how ICS was quick...here's to hoping...).

Sorry, but all you guys should've bought a Nexus. I did, and that's all I'll ever buy. So many slammed it when it came out because of the "lack of hardware" But now, everyone wants it. I've been running Jellybean for 2 weeks now, so go suck it if you're complaining. Never rely on any other phone to be updated...You'll only be disappointed. Nexus FTW !!!

Pretty happy with my EVO 4g LTE. Battery last all day, screen is sharp, radio's are great, camera software is fantastic.

I get the appeal of the Nexus and all but let's not just assume it's the greatest thing around.

Thanks for the write up Jerry. I left the Evo 3D for a Galaxy Nexus. I was tired of the wait and find now that I am again playing a waiting game. Its an exciting game that I love playing.

Personally I would like to see the OEMs (in the interest of time) give users the option of loading option of getting the pure OS or their skinned version. Just a wish, don't think it will come through.

"They had a really good track record there for a while"

Please tell me you were laughing maniacally when you wrote that about Sony. Sony has under delivered starting with the X10 series. I know, I suffered through the X10 debacle.

I love their designs, they prove that phones can be beautiful, and that not every rectangle with rounded corners has to look like the next one.

I've also followed the posts of other Xperia generations and see the same kind of complaints that left a bad taste in my mouth. Hopefully they will get their act together on the software side because if they did they could challenge Samsung.

Fantastic read, very well written and puts it exactly how it is. While everybody else is asking will my device get jelly bean I know mine will one way or the other I really don't care which preferably ota but if I get bored of waiting I'll do it my bloody self. Got fed up of waiting for ICS on my UK WiFi Xoom and GEDified it so that's 1 down already roll on mid July not long to wait now haha ;-) My galaxy nexus is from Vodafone they were polite enough not to bloat it and pretty much left the rest alone after the upraw over bloatware on the HTC Desire a few years back they now leave well alone, that being said I have seen a few nice JB roms I like the look of ;-)

Google really should make moto do fast updates on all their phones for no other reason that to force everyone else to shape up and stop fucking taking so long wiht BS updates.

I have a Razr Maxx, but I definitely think that the Droid Bionic will get the Jelly Bean update. It is being updated to ICS, so I'm sure that it will get it.

considering ICS took up until the S3 launch to come to the S2, i sadly doubt S2 will ever see JB. samsung said they were putting android updates in higher priority after all the fuss that was made around the S1 and other models, but they still dragged their feet with ICS. i think they'll just pass on the S2 and try to upsell people on the S3 since it's a minor update. (from a point release perspective)

I have a Samsung galaxy nexus that I ordered from Amazon in the U.S. It came with the yakjuxw build of 4.0.2. I flashed it with the yakju build of 4.0.4 and still haven't seen the update when I check for it. Anyone else missing the ota update from yakju? Does the phone need to be locked to get it ota?

It doesn't have to be locked to get updates. Go to forums and find how to flash ROMs. Once you learn how to do so. Flash Jelly bean and enjoy. Its like a night and day difference. You tube is a lot of help also. Good luck.

I I would urge caution here as locking a device back up is one of the riskiest things you can do and can result in bricking if not done exactly right.
No your device dose not need to be locked to receive the OTA update. I would be enclined to look again at the rom you have flashed to make sure you have flashed the unaltered GED rom (stock) and if need be re flash it, as sometimes it helps to flash it twice if your experiencing issues this should help to sit it better then take a look see if your OTA JB update is available.
If that doesn't work root it pick a nice custom JB rom flash that and enjoy the ability to skin the OS over clock the CPU just to mention a few basic benefits of having a rooted device.

Excellent write up and thanks for the research. Could you do me a favor and not pick on my poor-treated-like-a-redheaded-stepchild Rezound. One of the, if not the, best phones on Verizon and we keep having to ride the short bus to the update store....

This is why I finally went out and bought a Nexus device. Right now they are the ONLY device that you are sure will get EVERY Android major update if the hardware can handle it, just like iPhones do. Sadly after owning the Droid X and Droid X2 I am completely done with Motorola. They pushed out a few updates here and there but they always introduced many more bugs. TO the point that the original X with Gingerbread made the phone unusable. Verizon sent me an X2 and with it's Gingerbread update that phone was even worse. In fact the speed of the X2 was so horrid that I hated Android. I'm glad I gave it one last shot because my Galaxy Nexus is the fastest device I've ever used. Not only it is butter smooth but it is smoking fast. It boots in a minute the X2 took almost 5. What really irked me was the fact that the X2 runs one of the fastest mobile platforms ever made but Motorola in their infinite wisdom only fitted that phone with 512MB of RAM which is why it is the slowest phone I've ever used. They did what OEM's did to Windows Vista, built a monster without enough Memory to run it.

I don't think the note is going to get JB. Mine still doesn't have ICS (Korean version). IF you look at how long ICS took to get to the Galaxy SII which was a newer phone at the time, then think about how long JB will take. By the time it is ready they aren't going to bother with it. If past performance is any evidence it's going to be 7 months before the SIII sees JB.

Nope the Skyrocket for AT&T just got ICS a couple months ago and their Note just got ICS this month. How long of a wait was that??? And people here think they are going to be seeing JB in a couple months. That's some wishful thinking, but I can sell you smelling salts for cheap...

Jelly Bean? Ha! LG P990 is stuck on Gingerbread.
We all know that LG aren't going to bother with ICS, so the development of CM9/10 has reached a standstill, as we're all hanging out for LG to bring out drivers or a kernel... like that'll happen.
So yeah, screw you NVIDIA for your closed ways, and you LG, for your (lack of) updates.
Definitely buying a Galaxy Nexus as soon as I sell this paperweight. >_<
/rant

Its times like these that remind me of one thing... the only phones for me are Nexus phones. I think its great that Google is still supporting the Nexus S. A few family members have Galaxy S 3s and although I am interested in one, I really don't see myself giving up my Galaxy Nexus for one.

Now as far as tablets go, I would think my Asus TF300 will get Jelly Bean eventually but I am really in no rush. ICS is "good enough" and I don't want to unlock my boot loader, simply rooting it is good enough for me too. It is sad the original Transformer won't see JB but I can't blame Asus for not being interested in dealing with it.

Not really. Your average consumer doesn't know JB from Eclair. I have a couple dozen friends who are on android and most don't pay attention to OS versions.

That is so true most of my mates with android phones don't even know how to check what OS version there on. Never mind what that actually means for them, shit I've had to set some of them up to simplify there device so they don't get lost in the OS lol.

"who aren't very happy that they need to pull people off a new project to work on an old one. It's not that the engineers don't care, it's just that there are only 24 hours in a day. This is just how a fast-paced, high-tech industry operates. Innovation and new products take priority, because that's how money gets in the bank."

Yes in caps -------------> HOLY CRAP THANK YOU! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GET IT! This is not OEM's fault. This is purely Google is is driving OEM's batshit crazy with their release schedule. Honestly if there was really another viable option other then Android (Example being WebOS.) I could easily see everyone bailing ON Android because of Google's insane release schedule.

What I got from this:

"Manufacturers need to stop making so many phones in a years' period and focus on software"

Last year all Samsung needed was the Galaxy S and the S3, and probably the Nexus devices. This year all they need is the Note and the SIII. I don't see any other reason for other phones besides cheap prepaid phones.

don't forget all the other samsung phones of last year. We have the nexus, the note, the beam the new galaxy low budget versions... i don't think it's incorrect to say that samsung just put the S2 and the S3 out in a Year...

Really great article, Jerry. I hope that Sony speeds up the pace, too. The hardware is too nice to leave the software antiquated.

the best ICS rom for the HTC desire (www.nikez.nu) does have JB running on an HTC desire... I would laught my ass of if the HTC desire (and thus the Nexus 1) get a JB version also...

ICS works just fine on it now the Graphics driver is let lose in the wild, little buggy camera support though...

Just because you have a Nexus S device, doesn't guarantee you'll get an update. Even Android Open Source Project technical lead Jean-Baptiste Queru has said on a response to a question I posted on Google+ that nobody can say for certain because there are parts of the process that aren't under Google's control. Even the Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't apart of the AOSP & that places their upgrade in doubt.

Until we have definitive word from Verizon, AT&T, & Sprint? Nexus S owners should be highly skeptical & should be pushing Google & the big 3 US carriers to push this update to Nexus S & Galaxy Nexus devices. This isn't like Apple where if they say which models will be upgraded? It's a guaranteed thing.

I want as many people to get Jelly Bean as possible. But until Google owns the process 100%? Have a healthy dose of skepticism until we have an official word from the U.S carriers themselves of a confirmed update.

I'm still waiting for ICS on my Evo 3d, so I won't hold my breath for JB. My phone is just over a year old and if it doesn't get JB, I will not be a repeat customer for HTC and maybe Android as a whole. If it cost HTC to much money to find a way to put Sense 3.6 on JB, just give me pure android I would be happy with just that.

I'm going to be a little bit more optimistic than you, Jerry, about HTC's ongoing support for their high end devices, at least from an international perspective. The HTC Desire HD (flagship for 2010) shipped with Froyo 2.2, then was updated to 2.2.1, then 2.3.3, then 2.3.5, and will have 4.0.x pushed out to it in the next couple of months. Granted, the updates are coming slower and slower, as it becomes a lower priority, and I'm not saying that I think the Desire HD will get JB (as in fact, I think it won't), but I'm more optimistic than you about the Sensation getting JB, based on HTC's support for the Desire HD.

Per Nexus on Google+:

"If you’ve got a Galaxy Nexus HSPA+ device, you will receive a prompt alerting you to the update over the next several days. Up next for Jelly Bean: all Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Motorola Xoom and of course, Nexus 7, which will ship with Jelly Bean later this month."

Mav.

How about we focus on ICS for the Sprint S2 first...then worry about the JB update. It's terrible how far behind the US is in terms of their software updates. It appears we're far behind in many things though..so not much surprises me anymore.

I've been wearing out the System Update button ever since Motorola posted on G+ that the update was out.And nothing.

Really hope Bionic doesn't get forgotten / overlooked. I love mine, and am REALLY disappointed that we still don't (officially) have ICS ... JB delivered in a timely fashion would sooth me nicely :).

HTC Rezound is not a sense 4 device, it's Sense 3.6 and because of that I don't think the Rezound will be getting JellyBean, they haven't even delivered ICS yet, It didn't sell incredibly well and I don't think they'd spend the time retooling Sense 3.6 for Jellybean, unless they go off book and update it to sense 4, it can run it. But I doubt that even more than JellyBean for this device.

HTC do have some official builds of ICS for Sense 3.6. The HTC Velocity 4G here in Australia (I think it's the HTC Holiday/Raider internationally) has official ICS on Sense 3.6. But as you say, it does depend on device popularity too.

All that is fine. But why do the manufactures tell the carriers that it will get this operating system and advertise on the information cards(pid cards)that it will be getting it? Some people by the phones for that reason. Manufactures should be held accountable if they aren't working on them before moving to the next thing. So sorry you had to stop working on the new stuff for the things you promised us already??

So you're saying that my Droid X is NOT going to get Jelly Bean?! <-- Note of sarcasm here :)

I'm eligible for new equipment in September. If I had to pick a new phone right now, I'd be torn between a Razr Maxx or the Verizon Nexus. I honestly don't know which one I'd pick, both have their strengths and weaknesses.

Go Pure Google, my friend. Costs a bit more to get into the game that way, but you'll have a better experience overall and you'll be the first to get OS upgrades. My Galaxy Nexus is now running Jelly Bean, upgraded from ICS about an hour ago.

Unless the device has 4.1 Jelly Bean on it, we won't see it. When 100% of the android phones and tablets that were promised 4.0 get it, we'll be talking about Android Candy Cane.

My Galaxy Nexus (Pure Google) HSPA+ on AT&T is getting the Jelly Bean upgrade as I compose this post! Will let you know of my findings!

Good to hear that the Galaxy Note will get the update. I couldn't see why not.
I'm actually getting used to the vagaries of "Internet time." I just got the ICS update for the Note (and am quite pleased). Jelly Bean is just out, so obviously, it'll take some time between now and when the working update will be out.
ICS was released on October 19, 2011 and fixed three times for the 4.0.4 release on March 29, 2012. The Galaxy Note ICS update was released around July 10, 2012 (in the U.S.) so that's about 103 days from full working code release to AT&T's update. Assuming something similar, it would out the Jelly Bean update out around October 21, 2012 (assuming also that the GNote2 is out by then).

If I didn't want to wait so long, I could buy a Nexus, but I really like the phone/tablet-ness of the Note.

Do I wish I could get it sooner? Sure. Do I want some buggy, kludged-together, barely-working mash-up? No way. I'm not particularly patient, but I'll do my best as Android Central posts post after post about the new features in Jelly Bean :)

Here's the thing I believe ASUS will update the OG Transformer just because its ASUS and no carrier to block it from happening. As I type this from my OG Transformer on ICS on a custom kernel it works great and the real question is do I want Jelly Bean, No! Until someone hacks flash to work on Jelly Bean I won't be updating to it and just keeping ICS, because I go and use to many flash sites on the internet to have it removed because of a Lazy company not wanting to keep a single program updated and working. Adobe shame on you, you where the one program that made Android different and #1 and you take it away.

Amaze too old and out in the cold? The vivid came out like a month after, I don't see your rational. This is the third article I've read regarding Jelly Bean updates, and is by far the one with the weakest supportive points.

So, basically what I've got from this article is that if I want a device with Android JellyBean I better look for one that already has it. For example, I was thinking in getting the Huawei Honor 2. Now that I've read your article I just do not know. There is just no guarantee you will ever get an update and I am not that tech savvy to upgrade it myself. I wonder how the OS upgrades are handled by Apple and Microsoft.