HTC

Here's official word on HTC's plans for Ice Cream Sandwich, straight from your favorite three-lettered manufactuer:

"We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans."

That's hardly a surprising answer. We're certainly curious how -- or even if -- the Sense customizations will work with what we've seen so far in Ice Cream Sandwich. It's going to be an interesting six months or so, won't it?

 
There are 59 comments

Yadao says:

Might be a long shot, but what if they actually starting making more Vanilla based phones now that Google is making UI/UX more of a priority? Too many people are used to Sense for them to completely drop it out right, but it could be phased out eventually.

DirkBelig says:

As someone who moved from an OG EVO to a Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch Are They Kidding With This Name Wait There's More a couple of weeks ago, the thing I was most struck by the ICS dog and pony show tonight were the several features already on the GS2, like:

* Screenshot, albeit a different key combo

* Swipe to ignore calls with a canned text message

* Auto-panorama photo feature

I also like that they've added some of WebOS's elegance, namely the swipe away some notifications and to close apps.

I'm hoping that since the GS2 is so similar under the hood to the Galaxy Nexus (other than the HD screen and NFE bits, it's pretty much the same), they'll be able to get ICS out quickly and not pull another Froyo FUBAR which left my poor Epic peeps hanging for months after I'd moved up.

ratsttam says:

Just to be clear about it, all those "advanced" things in the GS2 (and GS line) are TouchWiz features. The little things that make the phone easier to use. They are not Android features. ICS seemed to take the best of each UI.

DWR_31 says:

If you don't have a dual-core phone ICS might take awhile to get to you.

I love my Evo 3D and I'm rooted, so depending on how quickly we get the source-code, we'll have some nice COLD ROMS to play with in the near future.

NickAVV says:

I really liked Sense up til this point, but ICS looks so much nicer. I can just imagine HTC butchering this, which makes me sad since HTC makes really nice hardware. :\

sproketz says:

Totally agree. hTC had a better time of it with older versions of android as there was more room for improvement. ICS is so refined and well done that heavy changes will likely ruin the excellent experience.

Things like contacts and calendar are miles beyond their HTC counterparts. I'm going native until HTC can prove the won't mess it up.

This actually brings up an interesting question for handset makers, which is: Is it better and more of a competitive differentiator for them to not customize the phone?

I can tell you I might have bought a Motorola phone if it has stock Gingerbread. Now this is even more the case.

bumpandrun says:

I have until early next Summer before my contract runs out and I'm hoping to see what Sense be like with Ice Cream before I have to make a decision. Right now leaning towards a Nexus because sense causes the white screen so much on my Evo 4G.

jam4775 says:

I have also really liked HTC Sense over all other UI's including stock android... that is until now I like stock ICS is better than the current Sense. And I really hope HTC can build off of ICS without killing the experience... but more than the UI, HTC makes really great apps and widgets. The one big thing that's missing from stock android (and looks like ICS too) is good email and calendar apps for non-gmail services. I use my phone for business and MS Exchange Mail is really important... in my opinion HTC has the best mail and calendar app for this. Crossing my fingers that HTC can do a good job with ICS too!

dabaum says:

All I know is if I don't get Ice Cream Sandwich...er um Honeycomb....I mean uh Gingerbread on my HTC Incredible by the time the new Nexus phone is available next month, I'm jumping ship to Samsung. LOL

frettfreak says:

Just plan on upgrading... that phone will most likely never see this update "officially" and if it does... its gonna be at least 12 months. I got an Evo 4G and it wont get this "officially" either (But i am sure CM9 will be great on it!)! its unfortunate and honestly bullsh!t but thats how they all play the game.

hondakorn says:

LOL....if they are upgrading the incredible then they might as well upgrade the g1 to ics as well hahahaha.....time to upgrade.

Floss82 says:

Glad to see HTC already in the update game but yes ICS over Sense or vice versa will be a great and difficult task to complete, just hope they do it right and put most of the vanilla ICS onto Sense. But until then will be happy with my Galaxy Nexus or Sensation 4G with some ICS possibly CM8 on it:D, depending if T-Mobile gets the new Nexus device this year:) Stay tuned!

google123 says:

I would love to see some ICS action on my new-to-me Droid Incredible :)

never. gonna. happen.

84guy says:

why not use vanilla 4.0 with sense apps/widgets? that would take what. few weeks?

MarkSeven says:

I could live with that

sprinttouch says:

The htc apps and widgets rely heavily on htc's special android framework. They would probably be a lot better off (time and performance wise) rewriting them for ASOP, and is it still even sense @ that point? I'm guessing it would take several months, not a few weeks.

84guy says:

when you put it like that i can understand it taking a long time

Yadao says:

That's only if they were to do a direct port. If they rebuilt their widgets and apps using the ICS SDK it would probably be faster. Scrollable/re-sizable widgets are now supported in ICS, that will save them some time as well.

ScottG says:

I am really NOT looking forward to Sense on ICS. I feel like Google has finally come to its senses (no pun intended) and made Android more natural in its vanilla form, and a skin on top of it would ruin that aspect. Especially if HTC decides to replace the Roboto font >_>

bpmurr says:

HTC I like my ICS Vanilla please!

briankurtz79 says:

A vanilla ice cream sandwich. Yummmm!!!!

MarkSeven says:

Man those dummies couldn't even get the Gingerbread update right. I had to replace my Evo 4G twice because the GB update kept screwing it up. I'm still on Froyo! I'm using Go Launcher on it 'cuz I got sick of Sense 1.0 or whatever it's on. They couldn't even include a newer version of Sense with that crappy update. Oh and the Thunderbolt is STILL waiting for GB. To me that's a major fail on HTC's part. I doubt they'll get ICS right. I'm jumpin ship the first chance I get. T-Mobile has all the good HTC phones now anyway.

bpmurr says:

As a Evo 4G owner I hate that they dropped the old Sense on Gingerbread and by default made a less functional phone. Hey I got a huge clock to take up my screen!

sprinttouch says:

huh? T-Mobile has the sensation, which is the Evo 3D with less ram, less storage and less features. Sprint's were its at :)

MarkSeven says:

Yeah, Sprint is where it's at if u have the Galaxy S2, which to me is slightly more appealing than the Evo 3D. I do like the 3D tho, but I'm not waiting til July for my upgrade and staying stuck with a 2.2 phone just bcuz HTC couldn't provide a decent GB build. Pluse I get no service with Sprint at work. I'll probably just sell my Evo and move to Verizon or something.

Cyrilmak says:

to me no custom UI will be good in ICS. Hence me wanting the Nexus Prime.

casperi says:

This press release though exciting doesn't really make much sense.
You bought a "sense" loaded phone with no real promise of an update to the next FULL update to the next version of Googles OS. Atleast I didn't see that when I bought my sensation. Nor am I upset about it.
Sense is what it is. If you don't like it, root you phone and use something else or don't root and use SPB shell which is what I use 80% of the time. I can see them updating to 2.3.5 and whatever is in that line but not to 4.0. If we get it that great and I will say think you so very much but I differently won't EXPECT it from a phone that it was never promised an upgraded path on. I surly won't be jumping ship cause of it. bring back down to earth guys.

84guy says:

it was promised. do your research

messiah143 says:

I think the vanilla ice cream sandwich is off the hook. Why would you want an overlay from these phone manufacturers. All you would risk having is slower updates, poor battery life, and all of the unnecessary bloat ware. Google has done a superb job with ICS. I hope the new Galaxy Nexus phone comes on Sprint in the very near future.

Htc is the best in the UPDATE GAME...NOBODY IS BETTER...They will find a way trust me on that. I predict the EVO 3D will be the first dualcore android device with ICE CREAM MARK IT DOWN...

Care to make a friendly wager? :)

Rob White says:

I'll match your wager against his & double down. 3D has already lost it's luster.

tompro53 says:

@richardyarrell there is already a dual core Android device that has ICS its called the Galaxy Nexus.

Tell him Jerry! So what do you think its going to be. The first phone to officially get ice cream sandwich?

lapk78 says:

Moto Photon shouldn't have to wait too long.

anlygi says:

Hopefully they get this out for Sensation pretty quick. I think Sensation and Evo3D will obviously be the first to get it, just hope the lack of 1GB of RAM in Sensation doesn't become a problem. I am running ARHD but wild switch to vanilla if needed.

tbolt1973 says:

Hopefully they show thunderbolt some love.

tbolt1973 says:

Hopefully they show thunderbolt some love.

gale7273 says:

I love my HTC, it doesn't bother me that we don't have the updated updated sence. That's what rooting is for! I have rooted and unrooted, I am using stock for the moment until something better comes out with rooted roms like ISC. HTC has a compact keyboard and sence, these were the key selling features for me. I wouldn't use anything else as long as HTC keeps these on the phone. No other android syncs things as well as the sense seems to do it. I have yet to find an android with a compact keyboard other than HTC...I will be a die hard fan til the end of the compact keyboard!!!! I will be rocking my Thunderbolt for a little while longer.....

Gekko says:

i like HTC and i like my EVO 4G but not enough to let a manufacturer get between me and the OS and updates - or at least make me wait.

Sense is nice and has a few cool widgets and apps - but i've come to the conclusion that it's not worth the tradeoffs of having to wait for updates as well as further unnecessary complication of the OS and potential resource hogging device performance drag and/or conflicts. i don't need or want another layer of complexity!

HTC makes great hardware and they have great support - but i don't want them or anyone else coming between me and Android.

HTC Sense brought a lot of value to the table when Android was still young and not mature. but with ICS Android has become polished and mature and feature-rich and Sense becomes a hindrance and not a help - it gets in the way and does more harm than good.

cool widgets and animated weather is not worth it. unless HTC steps up their game with Sense and offers a real value proposition - i'm choosing "pure" Android when i can - be it on Samsung OR HTC OR Moto OR other hardware.

yakade says:

They are many HTC product who are waiting for an upgrade for month now. One of theme is htc flyer, the upgrade to honeycomb; now htc keep promis another upgrade to the phone who are reales few month ago....
Dont want to wait just buy an ICS phone.

HTC should port the new android versions (without Sense) to existing devices and put them on HTCDev.Com for the nerds :)

So, Android fans, can update their devices to the latest versions and non-nerds can keep their devices to their current version and wait till HTC provides an update (with Sense) on it.

Imo, a good idea :D

(Double Post)

yakade says:

HTC will releas first new device with ICS, then provid the upgrade to existing devices
If i say that caus im using htc product for a while now.
I will not be surprise to see an HTC sensation xl double beat with ICS, before their upgrade

gogators1974 says:

I love seeing how all you ppl know what's going on with phones when ya don't

h0ruza#AC says:

When my update comes I will welcome it but it's never going to be full ICS or free from the meddling and deeds of idiots.

I think my next phone will be pure. Sense/touch wiz/blur is extra tat I personally don't need never mind what the carriers want to enforce on the phone I choose to buy.

UK Orange for example have there own maps app (which hasn't worked well ever).... on a phone with Android as its OS!

Pointless!

This is what I mean. Things get removed or bloatware gets added because someone with no real sense makes the decision to put there mark on a phone so they can claim that they offer an experience. They don't seem to care whether its a good experience or not.

The old saying too many cooks spoil the broth stands true for Android and I can't help thinking that when my GPS isn't working as great as my friends GSII's GPS could this be the fault of the silly Orange map app I don't even like or the radio stack my carrier has used.

Either way my phone still works fine if of buy it off sim/out right on the same network and with my early impressions of ICS The Pure Revolution is coming for me.

ICS is so much better than I was expecting. Nice one Google!

r-nice says:

I hope they stick with the customizations. That's really the only differentiator between all these phones. If they all start running stock Android only, welcome to snooze-ville.

nboatr says:

i'm a noob, and i have been waiting forever for the HTC Holiday to release, but after watching the Hong Kong show- i want my ICS.

Firespyer says:

Insert Thunderbolt comment here...

smthomas66 says:

I'm a Thunderbolt owner who is very happy with what I have. If ICS isn't going to work well on the phone then they shouldn't try and mess with what it does now and I'll be fine with what I have. For me this was an upgrade from a Blackberry so it's light years ahead of what I had and if it takes me two years to get to the next best thing I'm fine with that. Honestly though all of the current phones will more than likely have ICS ROMS within two weeks of release. For rooted users that is.

MarkSeven says:

Poor Thunderbolt.

DAS says:

I was struck by the fact that many of the new features of ICS are very similar in nature to Touchwiz 4.0?

Remarks were made last night of how Samsung & Google worked so closely together (practically meshed together in lab) to create the Galaxy/Nexus along side ICS.

The opening graphics showed how the hardware and the software are so interconnected that they blend fluidly.

Samsungs influence on ICS is pretty clearly seen, and I wonder how much input Google gathered from the other OEM's like HTC, Moto, LG etc? On the surface it appears the primary influence came from Samsung?

wpavlik2 says:

Any of you complaining about Gingerbread on your Evo 4G really need to check out MikMik's Gingersense ROM.
Rooting and loading new ROMS on the Evo is not difficult.

Considering I'm not due an upgrade until NEXT September (Gave my wife my most recent upgrade) I'm really happy with what my phone does on MikG Gingersense ROM.

kr09 says:

Why doesnt HTC just make one of their "scenes" pure vanilla android and give the user the option to choose what they want? My wife would use their Sense scene on her phone, I would use the Vanilla scene and everyone wins. If they can make a travel, work, fun and blank scene why not just a plain vanilla scene also? Sounds good to me and would alleviate problems between regular phone users and obsessive phone users like us!

benblush says:

Personally, I expected more from the new Nexus hardware-wise. I am having a sugar rush from ICS though. There is no way I am buying that Nexus. I am going to wait for a dual-core, buttonless, nfc enabled phone running ICS from HTC......so I can run CM8 on it!!!!!!! Reason being: HTC doesn't do minor bump hardware upgrades. HTC likes to push the envelope and with these SoC snapdragons in the pipeline...whooo!!!

Google had the perfect opportunity to punch apple in the gut hardware-wise with this phone but instead it's all software...to me. Personally, the new nexus is like a 4 to 4S upgrade over the nexus s. Samsung really held Google back on this one. I hope Google learned their lesson doing business with a complacent OEM. Samsung pretty much gave Google a Galaxy SII with NFC. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the phone; it just isn't enough. I mean, really, REALLY, all HTC has to do is make a buttonless dual core Sensation XL with nfc throw it in a slimmer case and slap vanilla ICS on it and i'ma run them down to take my money!!!

benblush says:

Personally, I expected more from the new Nexus hardware-wise. I am having a sugar rush from ICS though. There is no way I am buying that Nexus. I am going to wait for a dual-core, buttonless, nfc enabled phone running ICS from HTC......so I can run CM8 on it!!!!!!! Reason being: HTC doesn't do minor bump hardware upgrades. HTC likes to push the envelope and with these SoC snapdragons in the pipeline...whooo!!!

Google had the perfect opportunity to punch apple in the gut hardware-wise with this phone but instead it's all software...to me. Personally, the new nexus is like a 4 to 4S upgrade over the nexus s. Samsung really held Google back on this one. I hope Google learned their lesson doing business with a complacent OEM. Samsung pretty much gave Google a Galaxy SII with NFC. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the phone; it just isn't enough. I mean, really, REALLY, all HTC has to do is make a buttonless dual core Sensation XL with nfc throw it in a slimmer case and slap vanilla ICS on it and i'ma run them down to take my money!!!

What HTC and other manufacturers with custom UIs should do is release their UI as an official launcher in the Android Market, just like Launcher Pro, GO Launcher Ex, and others. I have an HTC Desire Z which came with stock Android, but I would love to be able to run Sense UI on it. I use GO Launcher EX, which is awesome, but I'd love to test drive HTC's launcher. If companies released their UIs for multiple Android devices, it would be like free advertising, and this might even entice Android phone owners who use a different brand to try their products.

beirlilny says:

Personally, I can't imagine a world without HTC Sense.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the Android OS - I mean LOVE.
And as much as I love it, you'd think that I would take any phone running Android - but I won't. If it's not an HTC phone with Sense, I don't want it. Don't care if it was given to me for free - that's how much I love the Sense experience. The animated weather, the big clock widget, the ease of use, etc.

EVERY SINGLE iPHONE out there looks the exact same; is that where we're headed? If ICS will be standard across all Android-powered phones, what will make each phone different? Isn't that what Google
and Android pride themselves on - being more customizable than an Iphone? Shouldn't a phone manufacturer still be able to customize the experience of using one of their phones? I HAVE TO HAVE an HTC
phone for Sense, some (misguided - ;-)) friends prefer MotoBlur. What is the point of being loyal to a phone manufacturer, or Android for that matter, if we get the same experience no matter what? Doesn't that get really boring? Like, iPhone boring?

Besides, as pretty as some aspects of ICS seemed to be, I can't imagine looking at that hideous lock screen instead of the gorgeous Sense 3.0 Lockscreen with weather...ohhhh, the animated weather....