The internet in recent weeks has been awash with harrowing reports of 5G conspiracy theories making the rounds. Whilst there has always been some kind of 5G skepticism lurking in less-savory parts of Facebook and Twitter, the recent COVID-19 epidemic has compounded many people's fears and pushed the narrative into the mainstream media, both in the US and across the pond in the UK.
We've heard quite enough about these theories and the tragic material consequences that have unfortunately followed (workers and engineers threatened, the burning of masts, people being cut off from loved ones). Rather than give any more airtime to the nonsense, we sat down with two 5G experts to debunk these myths once and for all. Strap in.
Our two heroes are Iqbal Bedi and Saul Friedner. Iqbal is the Director of Intelligens Consulting Ltd, and has worked as a digital and telecoms advisor in both the UK's public and private sector for more than 25 years. He is in fact the only consultant to have advised both UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon on telecoms policy. He has appeared on the BBC and even wrote a comprehensive report on 5G for the International Telecommunications Union. Saul is the associate director of spectrum services at LS Telcom UK. He has worked in spectrum management and regulation for more than 20 years and was previously employed by communications regulator Ofcom. His own expertise extends to broadcasting, as well as mobile technology including 4G and 5G. Saul has worked on 5G since its very early stages of conception, and also delivers training on 5G to regulators and operated all over the world.
As the saying goes, Saul and Iqbal have both forgotten more about telecoms and wireless spectrums than you or I will ever know.
There are a few different strands of the conspiracy floating around, each more absurd than the other. So what are we dealing with here? There are two main camps it seems, some people are suggesting that the COVID-19 pandemic is a result of recent 5G network rollouts across the globe. That is, that the coronavirus and its flu-like symptoms, respiratory problems etc. are a direct result of 5G, the virus and 5G are inextricably linked, 5G causes the virus. The second, more sinister theory, is that the symptoms of COVID-19 are not caused by a virus, but directly by 5G, and are the result of essentially, radiation poisoning. This theory, from theorists I've spoken with, states that COVID-19, the pandemic, lockdown, quarantine, etc. is all an elabarorate cover-up for direct harm being caused by the 5G rollout, in the same way that SARS was a cover for 3G, and Swine Flu was for 4G. The most elaborate theory I've heard came from one conspiracy theorist who told me that the government will use the coronavirus vaccine to inject us all with nano technology that can be used to control us, and plenty of people seem also to believe that global stay-at-home measures are being enforced so the government can proceed with the rollout of the 5G network. Yeah, these people really exist.
Both Saul and Iqbal, like most of us I'm sure, were very aware of 5G conspiracies making the rounds, in particular ones that linked the technology to the COVID-19 pandemic. In the UK, this conspiracy has unfortunately manifested itself in acts of vandalism and arson, another factor both referred to in their initial thoughts on the subject. Saul pointed out another very concerning aspect of these conspiracies, in that they are also being propagated by high profile celebrities who are "fanning the flame" of these myths, Piers Corbyn (the brother of former Labour leader Jeremy) and TV personality Amanda Holden to name but two.
When asked about their initial reaction to these alarming stories, Saul and Iqbal highlighted a couple of interesting points. According to Iqbal:
Iqbal is referring to an instance he came across of a man who filmed a tree next to a streetlight, claiming 5G was responsible for the fact half of its foliage was missing, despite their clearly being no 5G equipment deployed. On the other side of the coin, Saul highlighted his own sadness at the impact the conspiracy was having on real people who depend on 5G and other modes of connectivity, and for those having to clean up the mess left behind:
So what does 5G infrastructure actually look like? I asked both Saul and Iqbal to discuss a little about how 5G is broadcast. To summarize, there are lots of different components. When 5G rolls out fully (at least 5 years from now in the UK), it will use rooftop antennas and cells on streetlights linked by fibre connections. In more rural areas, 5G will be deployed on existing towers using the 700MHz frequency to cover long distances. Saul also noted that a lot of 5G is being pushed out using upgrades to existing mobile masts, as well as the building of new ones, they currently cover the 3.4-3.6GHz frequency range. You can read more about 5G infrastructure here.
The crux of the debate (and I use that term in the loosest sense possible) is the safety of 5G, so I asked Saul and Iqbal a series of questions, namely: Do we have any reason to believe 5G is dangerous? Is there any connection to COVID-19? Is COVID-19 a cover-up for illness caused by 5G? How do we know this?
The upshot, as you can expect, is that there is no reason to believe that 5G is unsafe. When I asked Iqbal about whether there were any reasons he said:
And on the link to the coronavirus:
One key flaw in 5G conspiracy theories no one seems able to address is that COVID-19 extends far beyond countries that have operational 5G in them. When I asked about where Iqbal got his information from, he recommended the following sources:
Both Iqbal and Saul also pointed to ICNIRP, The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection as another helpful source. 'Non-ionizing is a term you may have heard bandied around when reading stories like this, and Saul helpfully expanded on what it means in his own response:
Whilst Saul, like Iqbal, specializes in the tech, not the epidemiological aspect of this debate (again, very loose use of that word) he further noted:
Much like the geographical extent of COVID-19 compared with rollouts of 5G, another key flaw in these theories is the fact that 5G has been around in commercial networks and trials for over a year, the COVID-19 pandemic is a much younger problem.
If that's true, why all the traction?
I asked Saul about why, particularly in the UK, these theories have gained so much traction. He notes that there are often anxious and concerned members of the public when new mobile technology has been introduced, and pointed to similar instances for the rollout of 2G, 3G, and 4G, albeit to a lesser extent. He also noted how social media has played its part:
From my own observation, notably on Facebook groups dedicated to these causes, there seem to be two general camps of people. There are prominent members of these communities who post "information" and videos, trying to spread the message. The rest of those involved are far more passive, unquestioning of the message before them. I'm sure you've seen people on Facebook share something along the lines of "I am copying and pasting this status so that Facebook does not have permission to use my photos..." etc. There seem to be plenty of people caught up in this who are happy to take whatever they see and read at face(book) value without a second thought.
So how do we stop all this nonsense?
There are plenty of problems the truth runs into when dealing with theories like this. When I asked Iqbal how he would approach a 5G conspiracy theorist, he said "That's a tough one. It's like asking someone to prove drinking water causes cancer. It's a non-starter." In a sense, he's right. I've been unfortunate enough to dialogue with a 5G conspiracy theorist, and the problem I ran into most was that I had no idea where to start. The idea that 5G is dangerous, or is responsible for COVID-19 is based on so many flawed premises that it's hard to know which one to address first. Here's what Saul had to say:
One of the unique aspects of this conspiracy theory is the real-life impact it is having on daily life. Arson attacks on mobile masts are disconnecting people from each other, hospitals and doctors from patients, families from other relatives and loved ones, not to mention putting workers who have to deal with them at risk, and taking up the time of emergency services during a global pandemic. Whilst many people might be apathetic to arguments about who's waves are or aren't ionizing what, plenty of people you know would be upset and angry to hear that they can no longer communicate with their grandparents, grandchildren, teachers, and friends because of the mindless acts of a few deluded individuals. Saul also recommended lobbying governments and media outlets, again not only regarding the science and facts of these cases, but also the impact of criminal actions on the local community.
He also suggested increased levels of protection, such as CCTV coverage, for infrastructure so that further damage can be prevented and individuals brought to justice. When I asked Saul the kind of questions he would ask a 5G conspiracy theorist he said:
A great example of raising awareness is recent developments on Facebook. When these stories first emerged, a UK Facebook group titled "STOP 5G UK" had more than 70,000 members. Thanks, no doubt in part due to raised awareness, Facebook has started to purge the largest of these groups from its platform. A hopeful sign. As mentioned earlier, both Saul and Iqbal recommended a couple of sources regarding testing and the safety of 5G, and I asked Saul to expand on this:
All of this is to say that if you're at all worried about 5G, you needn't be, and information from trusted, reliable sources is available. If you know people who are spreading false information, you too can use these sources and outlets to spread the right kind of information to those who want to hear it. Be wary, however, of getting bogged down too much arguing with conspiracy theorists. To them, facts are more of an inconvenience than a tool. The problem with a conspiracy theory is that each piece of evidence to the contrary just becomes part of the conspiracy, rather than serving to undermine it.
None of us will likely make any inroads trying to convince 5G conspiracy theorists they are wrong, but we can all play a part in sharing the right information with as many people as possible. But make no mistake, 5G is safe.
Heh. All the conspiracy nuts are going to see this article as part of the conspiracy to help "them" (the evil powers that be).
He mentioned 2G, 3G, and 4G had conspiracies behind then too, but I don't remember them.....But these 5G conspiracies are so wide open, and blatant......Probably do to social media being more prevalent now then back then....social media is making society stupid
"social media is making society stupid" This. Everything is given equal weight on social media and Facebook and Twitter do nothing to stop it.
That's because content moderation at scale is impossible to do well at the best of times (there will always be mistakes and criticism no matter what moderation approach is taken). Throw in a pandemic situation that results in a shortage of human moderators and a shift to more automated moderation methods that can have their own issues (as we've already seen with Facebook's spam filtering system a month or so back) and it just makes things infinitely worse. Conspiracy theories and disinformation/misinformation have been around long before social media was even a thing. They also didn't develop in a vacuum but have festered as a result of eroding trust in high level institutions (government, scientific, etc).
I remember the 3 and 4G conspiracy theories appearing in the media. Mostly from the anti Vax and anti cell phone brigade.
I think the spread of ideas like this is helped by the ease with which information is spread. In the "old" days, information was reported by news stations or published in print, and credibility was at least considered (unless you were the National Enquirer). Now, people with no credibility, knowledge, or mental stability can spread whatever information they feel like.
Exactly. And long before the interweb Hemingway was advocating that people develop "built in, shock-proof, crap detectors" for clear thinking and writing. Carl Sagan picked up the refrain decades later in relationship to developing a scientific mindset. I get that thinking hurts. I get that *clear* thinking is hard. It's time-consuming and sometimes (maybe even often) doesn't lead us to the kind of answers we want. But from Coronavirus to climate change, the problems that are already here or are coming will require just that. And if we can't find a way to rise to the occasion, then the future has some bleak plans in store for our species.
I get what you're saying but I used to question the credibility of newspapers too.
It's really sad you even had to write this article. Anyone with a half a brain knows that 5G doesn't cause coronavirus. I've been using a 5G phone for months and haven't contracted the virus.
I'd like just one of those kooks to explain physical biological components being transmitted by radio, and give me a demonstration of the process. Please. Consider it a challenge.
There's too many people with LESS than half a brain... There's a woman we know that uses a flip phone so "they" can't find her location, and I got into a technology debate with her one time. She claimed she was an expert on technology and knew more than everybody, and I said "But... you call me up all the time get your wireless printer working because you don't know what an IP address is". I didn't hear another word from her that night.
This is the kind of article I expect to see on here. Its informative, based on pure logic, factual, and helps dispel misinformation. Thanks for posting this, it's useful reference information.
Agreed. I hope AC doesn't stop writing articles such as this, where tech and culture are found to intersect. It's entirely relevant to the site and, as you rightly point out, regrettably it's needed.
This would be more valuable if there was an expert on the other side. One-sided arguments are easy to win. Search for 60ghz Oxygen absorption (what are COVID-19 symptoms, what was the first city with blanketed 5G?) I have noticed Google filtering results recently and have been doing searches through DuckDuckGo with better results. Additionally, influencing humans via frequency has been researched since the days of the bad Germans (censored when I used the N word haha) and rolled into the CIA via Operation Paperclip/MKULTRA. Not saying this is what it would be used for...but we should always question everything and not take at face value. Fun watch that YouTube is currently filtering...doesn't talk about 5G, but informative on how the media currently operates among other horrible things that are going on with our government that has been blatant and hiding in plain sight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY8Nfzcn1qQ&t=8s. Science:
The human body operates through waves and frequency. How do the machines read you at the doctor/hospital? Since we operate that way, why is it impossible for external waves/frequency to interrupt your homeostasis? Can we all agree that none of us are in the club that knows what the heck is going on right now?
Here is another side, this is from a doctor. At about 21min he goes into the 5G argument., but watching from the beginning will provide context. https://youtu.be/WGbYHJcMbz8 If we get all sides we can make the most informed decisions to integrate into our internal belief systems.
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