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By Phil Nickinson
Friday, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:25 pm EDT
Jeff Bezos didn't get rich by being dumb. Smart move from Amazon.
Thanks to everyone who sent this in!
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Awesome way to piss a lot of people off.
Piss people off? I don't think so. Mildly irritate more like it.
Unlike Fire TV the Nexus Player has access to almost all games in Google Play, not limited like Fire TV
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Considering that every single life form searching for Nexus Player on Amazon is a geek that knows very well about the tech market and already knows about the Amazon Fire and many may be even decided on buying the Nexus already.... it's not like that self-advertisiment will do much.
Still a very fun move anyway.
Yes it was a fun move, even though you just tried to suck the fun right out of it.
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I guess I just analyse stuff to deeply sometimes....
I'd actually argue the opposite... your comment implies that you didn't analyze it ENOUGH.
For now, anyway. Once Google starts advertising it, and geeks start recommending it to family members, the people searching for it will slowly start including more and more non-techies who will be easily swayed.
I think we as enthusiasts tend to heavily underestimate how effective advertising can be. Google built an empire on it... Just because you and me research stuff for hours or frequent AC and half a dozen other sites on a daily basis to stay up to date doesn't mean everyone does.
Fact is advertising works, even crappy AdWord text ads or silly obvious stuff like this. We may have only clicked one or two a year, and it was probably my mistake, but there's a ton of people out there actually clicking these on purpose.
Your comment made me chuckle, every life force searching nexus player is a geek. But the majority I have spoke to have never heard of the likes of MiniX or Littlebox.
Yet I've had one for a few years and I've had an Android dongle for longer. I still wonder how Web sites can say it over and over, the nexus player is "not" the first Android TV box it's not the first Google TV box it is the first Google official Android TV box and a low powered device at that.
It is very much the first "Android TV" device. It's not the first device that runs Android with HDMI out, like the Mini X. It's not a Google TV box either, their previous forked Android living room experience, which I don't think any sites are conflating.
It probably cost them next to nothing to add that to that page. That said, if it sells even ONE more Fire TV, it would be worthwhile. Not doing "much" is still better than not doing anything.
I got the same banner, but it recommended a roku 3 instead
Perty funny .... But I will not be deceived!
That's so awesome
I went there earlier and they suggested a Roku 3. I think if the player does come to Amazon it's going to be priced higher than the suggested retail because it's competing directly with Fire TV.
It won't be priced higher. That would be really dumb. People will go elsewhere to buy. Even if it's just a couple bucks more.
If it's just a couple bucks then people who already buy from Amazon will still get it. If it's more than $5 more than I could see petite getting it elsewhere.
If anything, amazon will sell it at 99.95, just so they can say you SAVE a couple cents. As they do with many things. Especially electronics.
Amazon doesn't do that.
Not to sound like a dick but the only people looking to buy a Nexus player are techies. They know how to differentiate
You may not be trying but you did a good job anyway
Idk if your just fucking with me but as they say: Its a choice to be insulted. GROW A PAIR YOU FICKLE BITCH
The only people looking to buy one NOW are techies. That will change in time if Google does their job advertising it.
If he really wanted to make some noise he'd make the Fire TV compatible with Google cast. They'd probably have to pay a fee to Google to make that happen but it would get people interested. Especially since the Fire is already available and cheaper than the Nexus Player.
Stupid Amazon Canada I can't even order it off there if I wanted too.
In one hand I love Amazon. They constantly have the lowest prices, I get overnight shipping for $4 bucks and I can literally buy just about anything from them. On the other hand I think they make gross,boring and just plain crap hardware. I mean did anyone even buy the Fire Phone? Their Tablets are basically just a Portal to get you to buy stuff from them.
Android / Google is the same way with their Nexus devices.
The Fire Phone was a commercial flop, but it wasn't crap hardware. It's a perfectly serviceable phone, and I give them credit for at least trying something new with the face-tracking 3D. And the Kindle Fire tablets may only have access to a second-rate app store, but they run video and games *really* well, at a very low price point for tablets of their hardware quality. Shit doesn't have to have bleeding edge specs to be useful.
It's OK Jeff. I can easily go to Google Play if I want one.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Google has horrible customer service.
Um... Ok.... Haven't needed it before but the stuff I have gotten from Google Play so far has been good to me.
Depends on the department. For app support? Sure, awful. For Google [Shopping] Express, or Nexus warranty support? Best customer service I've ever experienced from any company, bar none. Incomparably good. Dramatically better than Amazon. I will happily pay more for a Nexus device to get it shipped from Play Store over Amazon from experience.
Really? Huh, haven't had to deal with it but that's good to know. I guess the fact that I've bought three Nexus devices and haven't had to deal with support is itself a good sign tho...
Same experience here. My first Nexus 5 arrived with a camera that didn't focus. I called and they helped me with some troubleshooting. After that didn't work, they sent a new Nexus 5 and asked me to return the bad one in the same box.
The same happened to a friend with a bad GPS in his Nexus 5.
Wow really? Best customer service??? When I had to deal with then they were incompetent and borderline retarded. I'd call google the worst when it comes to technical support. Apple is wayyy better and that's a fact jack(ass)
Yes. Best customer service, by far. Perhaps the only comparable support I've gotten is from ZyXel. No other tech company, including Apple (who spent 45 minutes on the phone with me doing painfully mundane, obvious things, before sending me to a store, which is hilarious since most people know Apple Geniuses are neither apples nor geniuses), has surpassed their phone support for Play Store-purchased products.
I've had three devices develop problems that forced me to deal with their support. A Nexus 4, 7, and 5. Not a single phone call took longer than five minutes before I had emails containing order links for free replacements and UPS shipping labels. In one case I called on a Wednesday evening and had my replacement Friday morning. The people I spoke to read my full description of the problem and the steps I took to troubleshoot, recognized I had covered my bases instead of forcing me to run through their script again, knew the technology and all the terminology, applied basic reasoning skills, were friendly, helpful, intelligent, and efficient, and got me off the phone and handled fast.
As for Google Express, I've dealt with them twice. Once was because their driver couldn't get through my gate. They called me AND emailed me with personal emails, not automated, to ask how to better resolve the issue in the future, and scheduled my delivery for the next available window. The second time was for a return. They provided me a free shipping label, but I explained that the store was right down the street and it would be easier to return it there than buy a box to ship it back in. While their system wasn't designed to allow for that, they recognized the flaw, apologized for it, and credited me the full cost of the item and told me it was mine to keep, donate, or throw away. All handled via back-and-forth emails over the span of a couple of hours, and all via intelligent, friendly humans.
So yes, best customer service ever.
And guess what? I just provided that entire comment without juvenile name-calling. Crazy how that's possible, isn't it?
Have a WONDERFUL evening, David.
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I to have had good experience with Google's support. Another company that has WONDERFUL support is Motorola. My Moto X developed a weird front camera issue where there were vertical lines in the image. They very apologetic, and gave me a code to design a brand new phone on moto maker no questions asked. They even let me use the old phone until the new one arrived. I could have gotten a new color or something, but I decided to design my new phone the same as the old one.
This is relevant because at the time Google owned Motorola. (They may still as I don't know if the Lenovo deal is done)
Ehhh if you get tricked into a Fire box ok you are not worthy lol
Wish I could read that screenshot on my phone.
Turn it to landscape.
Por que no los dos?
The Fire TV seems to be the better choice.
More memory, ethernet, Amazon Prime Video.
No chromecast support, is there an YouTube app on Fire TV?
Yes there is a YouTube app. I'm not sure about Chromecast but I installed Android L on my Nexus 7 (2013) and for some reason there's an option to display on my FireTV although I didn't try it. The weirder thing is I have a second unit upstairs and that one isn't shown for casting options.
Based off of?
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Well I have the Fire TV and multiple Roku boxes, so I have a lot of experience in this category.
Fire TV has more RAM than the Nexus, and has an ethernet port. Both are $99 but Amazon randomly sells theirs at a lower price or includes prime or Fire tablet.
Beyond that based on the Kindle reader and the Kindle Fire we know Amazon will fully invest in their products. Google is prone to dump something if it doesn't work.
On top of that other than Google Play you can get probably every app on Amazon that the Nexus Player will get. More importantly you will definitely get Amazon Prime Instant Video. Most likely any tv shows available on Google Play will be available on Amazon.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus Player looks like a solid device, but at the $99 price point they are coming in at the high end of the spectrum for OTT boxes.
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Fuck amazon. I stopped buying anything from amazon
Umm.. Let's not be too hasty here. Amazon is still one of the best places to shop even though their forked Android devices suuuuuuuuck.
Yep, even though don't like or use any amazon devices, still the no. 1 place for me to buy. Their customer service along with prime shipping beats everything else easily.
Same hare. I think all amazon hardware is basically terrible simply because of the forked Android on them, but I'm a prime member and I buy almost everything but food and cigarettes from amazon.
Same. Amazon = Walmart of the internet.
If I was Amazon why would I want to sell a competitor's product on my site anyway. I mean the want to make money, but they also want to sell their product first. It's not like you won't be able to go to Walmart, BB, the play store, etc to buy a nexus player.
Umm... You do realize they sell phones there right?
Yeah I know; but how many Fire phones have they sold again? I'm just saying that with the Fire TV, there are more potential buyers with the instant video and all.
Good One! a bit juvenile, but good.
so what should I get the fire tv or the nexus player? spec wise they both look decent. quad core on both 8gb storage on both but the fire tv has 2gb of ram where as the nexus player has 1gb. ik the amazon tv has some software flaws but its only a few months old. and it packs alot of punch!
How about no?
Some sales techniques never change lol
"Let me tell you why what you think you want is wrong and what you really want is what I've got"
Already have aftv rooted with xbmc sorry google
When you search for Nexus 6 it says:
"Looking for the Nexus 6? Check out the Fire Phone, the amazing, brand ne...just kidding. Here's the Nexus 6 link."
What a stinker that phone is. My sister in law has one and she hates it. Why she hasn't returned it is beyond me.
Sorry, but I fail to see how this is a smart move. Amazon sells their consumption devices essentially at cost. They make little to no money off of them (and they suck). Then they prevent you from viewing the content that they do make money off of on non-amazon devices. I would probably have a library of Amazon movies instead of Google Play movies if I could have viewed them on my mobile devices all along. As great as the base Kindle is, they wouldn't be nearly as dominant a platform if you couldn't also read your kindle books on Android and iPhone.
Amazon has their heads wedged seriously far up their own backsides. People don't want their crappy, no-margin hardware. We want your content. Stop dicking around and let us consume it in the manner we choose!
Suppose you could say the same about Google. Their main business is search, why did they need to get in the hardware business with their nexus devices when all phones would have come with Google search installed anyway. Why did they even have to bother with android when all phones and tablets would have had Google search installed anyway. And why did they need to start selling music and films. Like all businesses, they saw an opportunity to make money and went for it. They are exactly the same as Amazon, start with low prices until they dominate the market and then increase their prices, as can be seen with the new nexus products.
You really missed the boat here. For ine, the Nexus devices are intended as templates, to set an example for other manufacturers. Not a profit base.
Two, Amazon's production of hardware isn't really problematic. The problem is that they restrict their services from being used on other hardware. This CLEARLY undermines their profit base. Google makes their services available everywhere, because they know that content is king. Their Nexus line and their approach to it doesn't undermine it.
Guess your first point didn't work then. Apart from nexus devices, motorola and now Android one phones, no manufacturer puts stock android on their phones.
Amazon recently released an app in the Google Play store that will stream all of their content on any android device. Look for it.
I don't know if they have released anything for Crapple or not. Apple probably wont let them.
The Amazon hardware is top notch. The problem with their devices is NOT hardware. The problem is because they are trying to act like Apple and lock you into their infrastructure. I think that is a major mistake for them.
Just to qualify myself:
I am an Amazon Prime customer and I have 2 Amazon Kindle eBook readers and a Kindle Fire 8.9 HDX tablet which I use all the time.
I also have a Fire TV, and a Chromecast dongle, and a Roku 3. I seldom use any of these because I also have a Tivo, xBox 360, PS3, a PS4, and a "Smart" TV, all of which provide most of the services available through those other boxes.
Personally, in regards to the TV boxes and Chromecast, I prefer the Roku.
Bottom line, all of those devices do what they say they will do and it is up to each individual to decide which device does the best job of providing what he or she needs or wants.
All of these company's are in the business of making a profit. They all have their good sides and their bad sides. We, as consumers, have to decide how much of the bad side we are willing to take in order to get the good side.
How is Jeff Bozos (I spelled that as intended) considered rich and successful when his company has never made a profit?
Roku 3 FTW.
Hey Amazon, How about Google Play Store!
Nexus TV blows the Fire TV out of the water. I have an ADT-1, and although the software is a developer preview it has a great amount of potential. The final iteration (Nexus Player) will have much more functionality and offer a better experience than the Fire TV.
So, if Amazon won't sell the Nexus Player because it directly competes with one of their products, then why are they selling the Nexus 6 and 9?
Reminds me of the asian fast food place in the mall food court. Trying to push their bourbon chicken on you even though you just want ChikFilA.
Rude! But whatever. Doesn't Google get sued for shit like this?