Samsung Galaxy S5

Want double the on-board storage? You'll need to order online.

We're still waiting for some more official info from the U.S. carriers regarding the Samsung Galaxy S5, but we're starting to see drips and drabs leak out. The latest comes from T-Mobile, as a tipster has shot over a training page.

According to this documentation, T-Mobile will only sell the 16-gigabyte version in stores. If you want a 32-gigabyte Galaxy S5, you'll need to order it online.

T-Mobile Galaxy S5

Otherwise, T-Mobile's Galaxy S5 specs are as expected, and as we saw in our Galaxy S5 preview at Mobile World Congress. It's still got a 5.1-inch Super AMOLED display, 2.5 GHz quad-core processor and is running Android 4.4.2. Along with that you'll find a 16-megapixel rear camera, 2MP shooter out front and a removable 2,800 mAh battery.

The Galaxy S5 will be available on the major U.S. carriers in April. You can pre-order T-Mobile's Galaxy S5 now.

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With all the posts about the lack of available memory/space on the 16GB S4. Plus the 4.4.2 update not allowing users to run apps from SD Cards......why even make a 16GB version?

Unless Samsung magically reduced the wasted space the best we will see is maybe 10GB of space which is a joke why even bother making or selling one. Samsung got smart with the GN3 and got rid of the 16GB version, they need to do the same with the Galaxy S series.

I don't believe the "S" line is Samsung's bleeding-edge-top-of-the-line-spec-nerd-geek-out phone anymore. I think they are using the Note line for that and trying to push the "S" series to a more "mainstream" audience and using that as their primary capital driver. That means the keeping the cost (I'm referring to manufacturing cost) of the "S" as low as possible.

I disagree - the S3, S4, and S5 all have cutting edge specs at the time of their release plus they all sold/will sell for about 650 dollars unlocked on release.

I didn't mean to imply that those devices didn't sell well or that the S5 wouldn't. Neither do those models have "outdated" hardware. But the S5 isn't "pushing the envelope" in specs like the Note line.

There is no magic involved. Preproduction models frequently have extra developer code included. If the developers are any good, it will be taken out beforehand.

That being said, I am sure that TW will come in around 5GB and that leaves 11GB left

So? What was it after the update?

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We really need a post about SDcard Support in Android 4.3 and below vs. 4.4 and above. Also, it should include the reasons why Google is trying to make a profit from their cloud services. Or how the changes in Android 4.4 were designed to take Android back from the OEMs.

Only System Level Apps have access to the external SDcard. (Google Apps, Carrier Apps, and OEM Apps.)

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Why Google is trying to make money off its cloud services:

  1. Google sells cloud services.
  2. Google is required by law to try to make money.

But that's not why it's doing what it's doing with SD cards.

They are not required by law to make money, they are required by their shareholders to make money. Big difference.

+1
@Phil

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You are right Phil, I read it way too quickly at lunch time. I give you 1000 Advantage miles, if I had any to give you I would :)

They are required to law to *try* and make money. Otherwise, they are committing what the government calls "fraudulent business practices", which is generally frowned upon by the SEC.

Regardless of what GOOGLE calls themselves doing clearly they could care less about informing users.

Got a funny feeling they knew this wouldn't go down well so they felt left users out in the cold.

At the end of the day what Google did to it's users was a coward move people didn't deserve that.

Glad I wasn't stupid enough to update to their restricted Kitkat 4.4.2.

It'll be a dark day in hell before I allow Google to disrupt or control my day to day user experience on any handset I pay for.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Android 4.4 change the external SD card to a static read-only storage for all but system-level apps? It's only the system level apps that can write to it. Everything else can read.

If that's the case the storage is still useful, but much more a hassle to make use of (for example, you can't just connect phone to computer and copy stuff over).

+1 for doing the research.
+1 million for being a smart person that knows "knowledge is power".

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Thanks. What startled me is that while I try to keep up, I must not be doing well at it, this is one thing that I didn't know until just recently. I have an S3 with 16GB and a 32GB sd card, and I think I'll be keeping it at 4.3.

So another +1 for an article about all this.

My "Rooted" KNOX-FREE Sprint GSIII will be staying on 4.3 until a rooted 4.4 ROM is available without KNOX. That way I can insert the EXTERNAL_PERMISSIONS_WRITE into the permissions system folder.

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Phil, would you consider adding some objective tests to signal strenght of the various antennas - WiFi signal strength versus some other phones - the S4, HTC Ones, LG G2/G3/G Pro 2, and also carrier signal strength (there are numerous apps to do so). I had a GS3 prior to my LG G2 and the GS3 was significantly worse than the G2 side by side in WiFi signal strength (all areas inside of and outside of my house), Call signal strength (all parts of town) - I dropped more calls on the GS3 (or couldn't make a call in the first place) than all my other phones combined. I would like to see more commentary (other than phone calls sounded fine) on future Smartphone reviews. Some of us still use our smartphones to make phone calls and Samsung has the worst radio/antennas of any of the manufacturers and I won't buy another Samsung unless they have somehow improved the radios/antennas. Thanks.

Every phone has a standard 6GB used for system, give or take. Since Samsung is always more than the average, I think you can figure how big the ballpark is.

Not according to the most recent leaks. They seem to be back at 16.

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Could also be a fake box too, time will tell but so far the rumored specs have it at 16GB unless they got smart and realized no one would buy it.

No one? Pretty sure the lowest storage capacity of any phone ever made is the biggest seller since it is the cheapest option. Most people don't care to spend an extra $100 (subsidized) for 16GB more internal memory.

Just like the S5 box that was leaked showed 3000mah battery? Except the phone they announced had a 2800mah battery.

Wow the ONLY thing HTC got right in the last four years.

They are lucky to still be in business with their pitiful selling handsets that nobody wants.

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Says the guy who, just 2.5 years ago, was claiming the "legendary" Evo 3D would be "Sprint's flagship device well into 2012". Says the same guy who, 1 year before that, was "applauding" the HTC Evo 4G all over the place. Says the same guy who, before his recent Samsung fetish, was saying how he'd "push up on" the Evo 3D, and that HTC was god.
All within the past 3-4 years. What a hypocrite.

I am sure they have done research on this. I would imagine a large majority of users don't have any issues with 16GB memory and the people who do will research which phone is best for them. Ordering online really isn't a big deal plus if you get it from the right place you won't pay tax.

By what? 5 bucks at most? They make the chips in house and 16GB sells for 10 bucks or less for thumb dives. The cost would be a wash.

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The cost to consumers would easily be 50 dollars more. That's the way the carriers usually price the 32GB option, in relation to the 16GB base model.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

At this point in time (!! 2014!!), the "price" of 32GB's of internal, what's it called, NAND memory, should have come down already. Really, how expensive are these memory modules? I don't believe that excuse.

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They would sell just as many if not more with only 8GB. Too bad for Sammy that Touchwiz wouldn't even fit on the device...

Many of these people bought them cause they were on special (free perhaps). Then, realized after the 14 day return period (or 30 days in some cases). Or, simply hoped that adding a 32 or 64GB SD card would get them by.

I ordered my daughter the 32GB S4 and then purchased my 32 GB S4 in November.

Price difference to mfg a 16GB vs 32GB phone is very small, the cost of the extra storage is not hundreds of dollars, its more like $10.

But the price difference between the 16 and 32 they make off the consumer is. THIS is why they do it. They think, if the person really wants the extra storage, they'll pay for it...

The most recent reports I've seen on the cost of the kind of NAND memory that they build into these phones shows that it is a bit more expensive than that. It's not like going from a 16gb SD card to a 32gb SD card. Granted, it's not the $100 they generally charge to consumers, but it is somewhere closer to the $60 mark than the $10 mark.

Also, the NAND chips for these devices is custom made for each OEM, so the more than can "re-use" the previous design, the better their bottom line.

Even if Samsung makes their own, they still have to design them, and there is still an increased manufacturing cost, albeit probably less than buying them.

But they also sell their NAND chips, and it's possible that they "buy" them from themselves.

Really? Got any links to those reports? That sounds pretty outrageous. The HTC One for example is only $70 more for the 64gb vs 32gb. IIRC, it was only $50 more when I bought it last year.

It was from close to a year ago, so it could well be cheaper now. But the argument that it only costs company's "a few dollars" to increase internal memory has been around forever, and is largely based on a misconception. I will see if I can find information on current prices.

Maybe they will have a Google Edition with more memory... Idk I'm good with my device with 16gb because I cloud almost everything.

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@UJ95x

Correction: That's about 8.5GBs available.

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We still haven't seen the phone released with the final software. It could be either the 8 GB or the 11.

I think the S5 available memory will be between 10-11gigs. I will be waiting to see how much is available in the 32GB model.

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you have to start with 12.5GB, smacked ass, because 3.5GB is for Android OS. the Nexus 5 is the baseline, moron. nothing worse than a know-it-all that doesn't know shit but thinks he does.

And actually you are still wrong. First off 16 gb is not truly 16. Next tw and stock android are baked together. You cannot separate stock out then put it in twice when you put tw on it.

Math, how does it work?

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If the larger capacity is at least available online this isn't as big a deal for this community, but could be problematic for less knowledgeable consumers getting the hard sell at the store. Any word on colors, Phil? I am worried that it will only be black and white at launch on certain carriers, which would be dumb because 1. for the people who like the look, the blue is most striking, and 2. a large number of people upgrading from S3 like their blue phone.

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On the pre-registry page it's only showing black and white, I saw the blue and said "that's the one I want!" Get the blue one damn it T-Mobile.

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+1 If I get the S5,....if,...it would be the blue one. But of course I'm going to get a case, so I don't have to spend a whopping $175 on an insurance replacement at some point. Anyway, I'm going to be patient for right now and see what LG brings with the G3, my Jump isn't until July 18th.

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This is common practice from every carrier. Most retail locations have to special order larger capacity models for customers. They cost too much to just sit on the shelves, especially for authorized retailers who purchase equipment on credit for reimbursement.

I have an HTC One with 32GB, but I am not brand-loyal.

But this strikes me as really odd. I think a lot of average users will fill the 16GB pretty easily.

They won't. My wife has a 16 GB S4 and she has more free space than I do on my 32 GB G2.

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@Amir47

I'll bet your wife isn't downloading 1GB games to be phone or using podcatchers to download tracks for later listening or downloading movies for offline watching.

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Don't think so. I have had 5 GB free for a few months, and 2 of the space I did use went to a nandroid backup I made. The S3 and S4 had 16GB base models, and nobody I know complained about it.

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@UJ95X

The S3 and S4 had full access to the external SDcard.
The 4.4 update killed that.
And yes people are complaining after accepting the 4.4.2 update.

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I'm still not sure I can come up with a good reason for what Google did to the SDCard in 4.4.2. A least it's an easy fix if you're rooted :)

What GOOGLE DID was a cowardice act that will blow up in there face when they see how pitiful their Kitkat 4.4.2 numbers turn out to be.

The sad part is they had the time to talk about how great Kitkat would be but failed to tell everyone about the change in sdcard permissions in Kitkat 4.4.2.

At the end of the day many many people NEVER UPDATED so the JOKE is actually on GOOGLE.

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Yes, because the vast majority of people know or care about this to really affect Android version numbers. Newsflash: those of us that read websites like this are in the vast *minority* compared with the *billions* of Android devices currently active.
Secondly, Google has never really been that upfront with code changes (except during a new release of Android), and suddenly you're expecting them to practically make it national headline news? What a delusional, senile old fool.
Thirdly, based upon the number of people complaining, a lot more than you think (or want to believe) have updated. Get a life.

And all they have to do is take the handset back to the carrier.

they will exchange it back to a 4.3 Jellybean device because they want a satisfied customer.

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It has 11GB free, which is only one less than the likes of the Moto X or Nexus 5

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@UJ95x

Wrong again. I'm looking at my daughter's S4 right now. A little over 8GBs available. (Stock)

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Let's just use available facts, shall we? The 16GB Nexus 5 has a bit over 12GB of available storage. The 16GB GS4 has about 8.5GB of available storage. That's a huge difference!! We'll see how the GS5 turns out....but if you believe it has 11GB free prepare to be disappointed.

Nexus sucks monkey balls

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No, it doesn't. For the price, Nexus devices are amazing. Plain and simple, period. Lol

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Oh? Do tell as to *why* it "sucks monkey balls". Oh, let me guess, "crappy ass camera and piss poor battery life" based upon your 6 months experience with a Galaxy Nexus. What a joke.

Whats stopping you from putting it on SD? I have all my music on my internal storage on my Nexus 5, and had it on SD on my HTC rezound...zero difference. Speed was exactly the same. SD is every bit as good as internal for music.

For read speed, the SDCards are usually pretty close to the internal NAND memory (assuming you have a newer, high-end phone). It's the write speeds where the SDCard really starts to bog down. Some of that has to do with SDCards, and some of that has to do with the BUS that transmits data from the phone to the SDCard.

The esmc 5.0 bus in the newer SoC's like Qualcomm' 801 should help somewhat, but the internal memory will always have a "shorter" bus and better optimized write algorithms.

Guessing the 16 GB model sold more than the 32 GB model. But that's because of the $50 premium. When $50 could get you a 64gb sdcard I don't see the point of paying that premium.

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@Amir47

With Android 4.4.2 on your device you will see the value in the Premium Price.

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I don't install that many apps.
I mainly want the extra space to keep my comics, videos, music, pictures
I could care less about space to install apps and games

+1

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Wow all these negative comments...But on the htc article about 16 gig of storage u barely see any of this..I swear ppl really hate Samsung

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I'm negative about Android 4.4.2 upgrades on devices that previously had full SDcard support on Android 4.3 and below.

If you're buying a new device that has 4.4.2 out of the box, SDcard support shouldn't be a deciding factor for that purchase.

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I have told many people and will continue to tell everyone on every social Avenue DO NOT UPDATE TO KITKAT 4.4.2 UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE PERIOD.

If you value the way you're handset works on 4.3 Jellybean without any problems or sdcard restrictions OR without LOSING the funcationality of your favorite third party applications then you will leave Kitkat 4.4.2 alone.

Users pay for these handsets and pay for their monthly bills DON'T ALLOW GOOGLE TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF DAY TO DAY USER EXPERIENCE YOU WANT TO HAVE.

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Go read the HTC spec article and make that claim of yours with a straight face. There are comments about the 16GB model in there.

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Samsung HATERS have always been OBSOLET for so many years it's comical.

Nothing nobody does even GOOGLE with this silly sdcard permissions changes in Kitkat 4.4.2 will EVER STOP THE DOMINANCE OF SAMSUNG.

Plain and simple SAMSUNG IS ANDROID PERIOD.

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Actually, I harped on it a bit. Sense 6.0 uses about 38% of the internal storage on the M8 model with 16GB. I'm curious to see what features HTC added besides the camera additions and knock-on for internal storage to take such a hit. With Samsung we know it's mainly because of the "Smart" and "Air" stuff listed.

Verizon does the same thing, they did it with the GS3, GS4 and will very likely do it with the GS5 so this isn't a big deal. You order and it arrives in a few days. What does suck is a Friday launch and you won't get your phone until Tuesday/Wednesday of the next week depending on shipping method and time of order.

I am porting from Verizon to AT&T so if AT&T doesn't offer the 32GB in store (they did for the GS4) then that is a PITA for me.

Who cares? Unlike Google, Samsung does not handcuff it's users on storage space. 16 gigs is all you need because if you want more, you can always expand. The jihad against SD will fail. Because people like choice.

So now you are telling us what we need. How thoughtful of you. I'm not going to bother ripping apart that idiotic statement of yours and the many ways that it is illogical. But hey 16GB is all we need.

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Plain and simple cloud storage suck monkey balls and so does Google's crappy Nexus devices.

Nobody needs them or buys them period.

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You're on a roll, Richard!

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Says the guy who, just last year, was going on and on about "T-Mobile's BITCH SLAPPING HSPA+42MPBS network" and how (specifically) T-Mobile's LTE was practically going to be the savior of all mobile data. You're just mad because you have to pay for more than 10GB of storage anywhere other than Drive.

I'm almost positive that HTC will NOT come out with a 16GB in US, would be stupid if they did... Even if they do, having an SD expansion works better on HTC than Samsung. HTC allows higher level of integration with MicroSD card with decreased restrictions than Samsung or Google in general. You're still able to move a lot more data to SD card in HTC devices.

Android 4.4.2, external SDcard permissions have been removed, unless the app that is trying to access it has system-level-access. (Google Apps, Carrier Apps, and OEM Apps)

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+1
Just trying to get the word out.

But you're right, nobody likes a broken record.

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BLASPHEMER!!

/sarcasm

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And at some ridiculous price masked as a "easy pay" plan. T-Mobile users will love it though. They'll stop there after they strike a great deal on a 27" LCD TV at a rent to own place.......

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I'm not too concern with the 16GB version as I don't tend to overload my smartphones with unnecessary apps. However, the Cloud service makes up for other storage options.

I am a JUMP customer and will be buying a white Galaxy S5 on April 11th.

At the store I work at, it's common to only stock the lower storage version, most people (normies) don't know to ask for, or won't use the extra storage. That includes iPhones as well.

A lot of comments on here showing some irritated people, but I think all of you are overlooking one thing: we don't have to pay the margins for a phone to sit on the shelf.

Look, *we* (those who frequent this site) are not representative of your "average user". We *should* all realize this.

Granted, a 16gb is probably *bad* for most of us on here, but that doesn't mean that it's a bad move by T-Mobile. They are going to stock the version of the phone that they believe will sell the best (and it probably will) because they are the ones who take the hit if it doesn't sell.

So, while it might create a PITA for those of us on here, it's not fair to expect T-Mo to lose money in order to support the 2% of Android users on this blog. Harsh, but true.

I have decided to get an S5, I honestly think it's a pretty good phone. I'll keep it till t the G3/Note 4.

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After struggling for almost 2 years with a 16gb Samsung Galaxy S3 there's no way I'm upgrading to another 16gb phone.

I use a 64gb micro SD so I'm fine for storing media, but

100% Agree sir... Only I've been struggling with a 16G SD card! I couldn't get my 32 G to transfer all my music properly so I gave up. Can I ask what brand 64 G card do you have?

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Same thing they did with the Nexus 5. So I ordered the 32GB storage version from Google directly. I think the carriers want to try and force people to use more data on their data plans with this cruddy "cloud everything" mentality.

16 gig is ridiculously small. My note 3 is 32 gig and I would never buy a phone with less than that. Your beginning to suck T-Mobile.

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Big Fail from Samsung. This is a High End device with low memory capacity from more than $600 usd. Sorry for you samsung I will keep my LG G2 with 32gb of internal memory. For why we need up to 128gb of external memory for photos and videos? What happend with all the games that we want to play and i cant install it on my external memory. We are on 2014 at this point we have 16mp camera and at least the standar for a high end device is 32gb of internal memory.

IF you look at the specs phones continue to get bigger - the S5 is now 5.6"x 2.85" x .33" vs. the S4 at 5.38"x 2.75" x .31". vs. my LG G2 at 5.45" x 2.79" x .35" with a 5.2" screen. My old S3 (which was "enormous" at the time) was only
5.38 x 2.78 x 0.34 and feels small now.