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Habitual leaker says D820 is not the next Nexus phone

Remember that LG-D820 that showed up at the FCC a few days back? Complete with code names and a OS version that has everyone convinced that it is the next Nexus phone, it has the specs everyone wants listed. However, one of the Android world's perennial leakers, @evleaks, says that it's just another G2.

This was quickly followed by an image showing other model numbers, including the 821, as you can see above.

Fans are quick to believe @evleaks when he gives information they want to hear, but plenty are skeptical over this information. We have a few ideas, but nothing we're willing to talk about just yet. The jury is still out on exactly what's what, as there is really nothing we can be sure of with the information we have. Hopefully, we know more soon.

Source: @evleaks (1); (2)

 
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radgatt says:

What to believe? I imagine that we will find out the truth sooner rather than later!

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brendilon says:

It's running 4.4, which the G2 does not.
The G2 is a different size.
The 820 doesn't look like the G2.

So EVLeaks is wrong.

Also, Android Central isn't talking about the glaring problems with the EVLeaks claim. Gotta wonder why.

Hunter Petit says:

Yes!

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From the article:

We have a few ideas, but nothing we're willing to talk about just yet. 

I can't burn people who trust me. That's not how we operate around here.

NoNexus says:

It's cool
You have lead us to water and we will drink.

We can see the flaws in the logic without ac killing it's sources

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jonathan3579 says:

Good on you for being respectful to evleaks... However, let me and the other users be the people who say how we blatantly disagree and find this one of the least credible things evleaks has ever put out there.

Have at it :)

Let me throw you a bone for your discussion. Two things to think about that has been whispering around:

LG G2 Google Play edition won't have buttons on the back.

LG G2 Mini

Is any of this true? I dunno. People say lots of things. I have nothing I personally feel comfortable saying on the record about any upcoming Nexus, including saying that the FCC phone was it. 

i1der says:

You are so cool! =D

In other words, you are a sycophant who has decided never to expose him for what he is, even when it's obvious. Hey, the truth is the truth. And if more people told it without worrying about what someone else would think, there would be a lot more of it and frauds like @evleaks wouldn't be cluttering news with his fantasies.

@evleaks is almost always wrong. He has no qualifications and no inside info. He just throws a lot of stuff up on the wall and sees what sticks..

ricktat says:

It's not the Nexus 5. It is the Iphone 6. I have insider info.

I expect the NEXUS 5 to be annouced in the next week. KitKat was timed with the Apple announcement date to steal some thunder. They will want to do the same after the Iphone is revealed tomorrow.

Raptor007 says:

So is this Sprint's version of the G2 which would explain why it's later than the other carriers and looks different. I mean what other CDMA carriers would LG actually bother designing a different iteration of the new flagship for?

newboyx says:

Sprint's G2 has already passed through the FCC. In August.

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benurd says:

Whew!

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newboyx says:

Also the dimensions don't match up 131.9mm high and 68.2mm wide is from the "Nexus" the G2 is notably larger.

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Thats the part that does not add up, why then are the dimensions, screen size and battery size all different on the phone that went through FCC.

newboyx says:

And Evleaks has issued a correction https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/377793294253568000

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N3tT3chMan says:

I was gonna be super bummed if this was the nexus for all carriers except verizon.

brendilon says:

You may as well start being bummed now, Verizon will not get a Nexus.

A sad but true fact.

TheMimic12 says:

After the Galaxy nexus fiasco, why would they? Verizon isn't a member of the open handset alliance, and they completely cripple some android phones with their bloatware. That is why I left and am not coming back to big red evil.

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TheMimic12 says:

So? Unless you just got locked into a contact with one of the most phone companies in the united States, you can switch to T-Mobile or AT&T, if the coverage is good on your area. Verizon isn't the only carrier sound with the best coverage, so feel free to try some of the no contact plans offered by these guys. I personally like Aio and AT&T go phone.

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mathiasjk says:

Makes sense since LG already said they wouldn't make the next nexus.

unglued94ta says:

Still doesnt quite add up for me. Why would they make one that looked strangely similar to the new nexus phone from the google add but still be a g2? Even the picture from evleaks looks nothing like the FCC document or whatever that was.

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NoNexus says:

I am pretty sure that at the time it was 'there is no plans' not that they wouldn't.

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Exactly. No plans = no contracts have been signed (yet). It doesn't mean it's not gonna happen.

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still1 says:

Hard to believe when it was used by a Googler and had a Nexus logo on the back.

also the camera dont match with G2's camera. spec from FCC dont match either

benurd says:

+1

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unglued94ta says:

Lol. I said the same thing above.

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Hunter Petit says:

Exactly, so it looks like (I'm being sarcastic) LG sent Google some LG G2s to test out and put a Nexus backing on it because it made the Googlers feel better. Either @evleaks or Google is trolling us.

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Gekko says:

i liked this comment by Artem Russakovskii -

Allow me to break it down.

1. D820 was found at the FCC and thought to be the Nexus, with a smaller case, different screen size, back, battery, and overall look from the G2.

2. D821 was found soon after at the BT SIG, but not at the FCC. We had absolutely 0 info about this model.

3. Evleaks found D821, which seems to match the dimensions and look of the G2.
G2 dimensions: 138.5 x 70.9 x 8.9 mm
D820 dimensions: 131.9 x 68.2 x ?? mm
D821 dimensions: 138.5 x 70.9 x 9.1 mm

4. Evleaks made an assumption that since the D821 is so close to the D820, the D820 is not the Nexus and is the same as D821 ( https://twitter.com/evleaks/st... ). I've verified that the first tweet is based solely on this assumption and not on any facts.

5. The D820 therefore should have never been part of Evleaks' claim.

6. In fact, I'm still very confident the D820 is the Nexus based on the FCC revelations, the mismatch between D820 and D821, a source of ours I trust, and this www.reddit.com/r/Android/comme.... Right now, I also believe it'll be called the Nexus 4, not Nexus 5, but that may change.

Scotty Olsen says:

These were my thoughts exactly. Nexus 4 is to Optimus G as Nexus 5(?) is to G2.

unglued94ta says:

+1

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Hunter Petit says:

Yup

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gregs1213 says:

Exactly, I was kind of surprised it took me so long to find this comment. The first thing I though.

sunburned says:

So the CDMA version of the G2 is going to have a different screen size and body size than the rest of them?

newboyx says:

No.

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TheLegoman says:

That's why many of us suspect that evleaks is wrong. It's just impossible for the CDMA version of the G2 to look completely different and be a different size. If it doesn't even look like a G2, what's the point of naming it a G2?

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newboyx says:

Plus, Sprint has already posted pictures on Sprint.com of what their G2 looks like (hint, it looks just like the other G2s). It looks nothing like the D820.

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How many different versions of the older Galaxy S phones were there? Its not a natter of weather or not they can do it. But rather will they. I really don't know myself but it wouldn't surprise me if one or more carriers wanted an exclusive version. We will have to wait and see

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jman1323 says:

Yeah and battery size and camera placement and will be running 4.4 out of the box.

sunburned says:

BTW, I agree with all of you, it was a bit of sarcasm.

I hope the 820 is the Nexus because that would make it smaller than the 4, but with a bigger screen. Google actually knows that not everyone wants a ginormous phone.

ACADM says:

+1.

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NoNexus says:

What like the note 3? Google isn't the only one that understands how to be compact and deliver more

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NoNexus says:

What like the note 3? Google isn't the only one that understands how to be compact and deliver more

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Woosh says:

Did you just use Note 3 and compact in the same sentence?

jayala319 says:

This. Sir, you have my +1.

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benurd says:

How does this explain the camera location?! I am deciding for once, to go against evleakes. I believe we saw a nexii 5 go thru the FCC and not a Sprint G2, even tho the Sprint G2 was just announced for preorder. He always tryna kill a good soaking wet dream, dayum.

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Dreamless531 says:

That leaked doc does "Not" have anything 2 do with the D820 it only mentions the D821 there is no evidence behind his theory at all, the size nd shape don't match up at all but the D821 almost mirror the G2 but the D820 is much smaller not to mention the position of the camera along with the non removable battery I trust evleaks but this one it just doesn't match up

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jeddo45 says:

I can't wait for the new nexus! I'm going to ditch my note 2!

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Scotty Olsen says:

Except that the D820 clearly doesn't have rear buttons which is the G2's claim to fame. evleaks obviously made a bad assumption.

That clearly says D802 in the picture.

Viper says:

Um no he is wrong. Pics of back cover match Google video. Filing uses a fish name. Software says KeyLimePie. They are definitely wrong here. It is the Nexus 5.

HalizDad says:

Actually, it says "KyeLimePie" so I'm doubting the authenticity of that document also...

Viper says:

You doubt the authenticity of a document direct from the FCC's website? Ok...

I don't have _any_ shred of evidence to support this, however:

Next Nexus will be the Nexus 4 (2013).
Next Nexus will be based on the LG G2 internals.
Next Nexus will be running Android 4.4.
Next Nexus will be $349 for 16GB.
Next Nexus will be $399 for 32GB.

There. Done.

Why have some people assumed they will call it the Nexus 4 again? Is it due to the size naming scheme because of the tablets? I just have seen multiple sites/blogs reiterate that possibility. Not sure if it's a dumb joke amongst blogs at this point or if it actually has merit.

ConTejas says:

WAY too many "nexus" references in the FCC docs, coupled with photos that match the unknown Nexus in the Kitkat photo, for me to reverse my opinion that it was most definitely the next Nexus. @evleaks does well sometimes, but not enough for me to overlook the most solid evidence regarding the next Nexus. D802 matches what plenty of "well souced" South Korean sites have be saying all along regarding LG making the next Nexus and it being based on the G2.

Lastly, if you're on Verizon and hoping to own the next Nexus, I feel (somewhat) sorry for you. Google and Verizon don't want "anything" to do with each other.

jman1323 says:

And the hammerhead code name?

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What about it? Is there a law that only Nexus devices can use fish names for code names?

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I think evleaks is confusing the 820 with the 802. The 820 is the FCC filing while the 802 is what is in the picture they posted.

Other issues with it being a CDMA variant:
- Camera moved
- Smaller battery
- Wireless charging
- Physical size dimensions are wrong

NoNexus says:

Usually when evleaks says it they are right, or at least close.

This time they are right that it is a g2 variant, but wrong that it isn't the nexus.

The keylimepie reference in the document could have just been the working name at the time of filing, plenty of names get swapped before announcement. Heck we haven't had much of an announcement for that matter...

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kingjames924 says:

This is what I'm thinking:

The D820 is the Nexus variant of the G2. It uses the same board, but doesn't have the hardware features that the G2 has.

Why You Ask? Well I'll tell you!

The Nexus 4 model number is the LG E960. The GSM International Version of the Optimus G was E975. The Nexus 4 had essentially the same motherboard as the Optimus G.

Plus the picture of the Nexus leak was clearly an LG phone.

The FCC info is right, and @evleaks info with the D802 was right. but saying that the 2 being the same is wrong.

kingjames924 says:

And just to confirm there have been sightingS since march of an LG D810:

http://eandroidhowto.com/lg-d810-with-snapdragon-800-soc-spotted-in-glbe...

s2weden2000 says:

it was running 4.4...

brendilon says:

It's running 4.4, which the G2 does not.
The G2 is a different size.
The 820 doesn't look like the G2.

So, EVLeaks is wrong.

Not only that, but Android Central isn't pointing out the glaring holes in the EVLeaks observation. Is it possible they're both under pressure to run with this absurd claim?

Your assertion was answered already up higher in this thread. 

If I had news I could talk about, I would talk about it. This is what someone else says, with zero commentary from me, because I have nothing I'm confident enough to share.

 

NoYankees44 says:

Im not sure what to believe at this point. Is there any way the FCC filing could be fake?

No.

seanjenkins1 says:

If the screen is the same size not much point in buying it. The nexus 4 is already lag free and can handle any game fine. The only significant thing they can improve on is the screen and camera.

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HZD says:

And it still can't avoid dead locking under 4.3

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lockwyn says:

+1. Hope for a nexus with micro sd and changeable battery ;)

on galaxy nexus^^ o-jea!

ALUOp says:

I hope I'm wrong, but just the fact that it's using snapdragon 800 is enough to completely kill any hope for this to be the next Nexus.

return_0 says:

Oh, so although it has Android 4.4, has a codename indicating it being a Nexus, and matches the photo of the Nexus 5 leaked by Google, the processor makes it not a Nexus?

Seems legit.

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ALUOp says:

A SD 800 on a $349 phone?
Isn't it too good to be true?
Unless this SD 800 is a very different revision from the one that we know. Or unless Google is going to raise the prices.
Again, I really hope this rumor is true but I'm just not convinced right now.

I'll say this much.

Find that video. The phone at 38 seconds is not the same phone you see at 46 seconds, even though the same fellow is holding them.

What that means, I have no idea.

djw39 says:

Jerry,

I looked in the video at 46 seconds, and I think it IS the same phone. It's blurry, but I can make out

--Camera is in the same spot
--Logo (LG) at the bottom
--Curved bottom matching FCC docs is arguably more apparent

The NEXUS lettering is not visible but we saw in the other shot that lighting can mess with that.

http://i.imgur.com/xriRzS9.png

Thanks for the tip, I didn't realize there was another shot of it!

jdbii says:

Interesting. I agree that those are two different phones. I don't think anything in the video was a mistake, accidental, or coincidental, especially showing the same guy with 2 different phones. Now I'm wondering if the relationship soured beyond the point of return last winter due to supply problems and this might be Google exacting a bit of revenge on LG by showing them what could of been.

djw39 says:

What about them looks different to you?

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jdbii says:

No special reason other than they look different to me from afar. I certainly could be wrong. The imgur pic you posted, as well as the points you made, state a pretty strong case that they are the same phone (I made my comment before I zoomed your pic). I suppose it is just more interesting for me to think they are different phones and then to engage in juicy conspiracy theories.

I wouldn't say that disqualifies it at all. The Nexus 4 had a top of the line SoC at the time of it's release. Name one SoC that was better than the S4 Pro Quad(APQ8064) at the time of the Nexus 4 release.

Hunter Petit says:

I dont know if I should say this but I think Evleaks is wrong. That matches up with every part of the Nexus 5 and has no similarities to the LG G2. I'm probably wrong. :-(

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jbern8 says:

The radio info here does no describe a variant, but rather a one device fits At&t/TMobile/Sprint. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-351-teaser-is-the-lg-d820-the-n...

joshua.worth says:

Google just above the next Nexus tomorrow please and thank you rain Kit Kat's on Apple's parade :-)

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If its supposed to be the G2 then why is the camera cutout in the wrong place. It looks more like the device we saw in Google's kit kat video.

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TheDu9du says:

The picture labels the CDMA variant as D821 yet somehow some one concludes that the D820 version is such CDMA variant.
Either the picture is wrong or the assumption.

someguy01234 says:

All I have to say is: lol. But I still think the Nexus 5 will be based on the G2 in some form.

TechyTee says:

A comparison of the dimensions of mysterious Nexus 5 and Nexus 4 shown in Android KitKat statue unveiling video using video snaps. That new Nexus is bigger than the Nexus 4. Check the link
http://teerox.deviantart.com/art/New-Nexus-and-Nexus-4-comparison-399230273

jdbii says:

This is getting interesting.

TheMimic12 says:

Of its just a CDMA g2 variant, then why I'd there support not just got Sprint's 4G LTE, but also for AT&T and T-Mobile? The screen is also smaller than the g2, and in the age where the phone is offered almost exactly the same on all carriers, this doesn't really seem to be a g2 variant.

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T Nye says:

He has this one wrong, I have known about Hammerhead since the end of June, it is a Nexus device.

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jman1323 says:

https://plus.google.com/112200452723264454895/posts/SH7pZoPyzn4

Jerry, it looks like you deleted your comment on Google+. Wasn't sure if you saw this.

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Jin_BR says:

LG D821 might be a Nexus 5 version after all...

http://pinguinsmoveis.com/lg-d821-nexus-5-ja-passou-na-anatel/

Anatel in Brazil is like FCC in US.