Here's another look at the HTC 10 with some benchmarks to boot

For HTC's sake I hope this phone looks amazing. However, don't see any front facing speakers and if the past few phones have been any indication we're probably not getting any capacitive buttons. Samsung phones also have a symmetry about their chin. This chin is just..odd.

Front facing speaker on top and second speaker in the bottom like an iPhone or Samsung. Posted via the Android Central App

Speakers is placed at bottom as most of phones does like S7 iPhone or one A9.

That chin... I use an iPhone right now so I don't have a lot of room to complain about lower bezels, but this looks terrible

I'll fill you in.. It's smaller then the iphones. So.. uh. Not sure how you can have much to say on that front.

You have one? You've measured? Also it looks terrible because of the proportions. If something is above it the. Great if not....who designed this thing?

So how come u knew this was terrible then? Posted via the Android Central App

Because I said it "looks" terrible whereas he was saying "it is" smaller....

I hope it's because of the boom sound VZW Moto X DE/N7

Maybe you are right for HTC phones these benchmarks don't matter cuz they are faster than other phones smoothest and fluid. Btw these benchmarks give feeling of power. Smooth UI shows software is optimized but benchmarks show it have also raw power.

Hos id that chin bigger than most phones out there? It doesn't even look bigger than the s7 chin on that picture, although I'm sure it is irl. But it looks much smaller than the nexus 6p for instance Posted via the Android Central App

"Benchmarks don't matter"
It was on the benchmarks that people said the One M9 sucked.

Yeah, benchmarks and Snaptoaster is all we heard about ad nauseum last year with the list of Samsung's flaws excused or glossed over. And 9ersfan3 constantly advising everyone to factory reset after Samsung's flawed Lollipop update. It took 6 months for him to finally realize how much he actually despises the Samsung experience. Now it's the chin? Lame!

More waaaaaa... From the loser brigade. Isn't that chicken farked to death by now? Posted via the Android Central App

It took me about 10 seconds to realize how much I despise you. Tone down on the pro HTC rhetoric pal. Its creepy

Yeah it must be tough fitting that hard on into the USB slot. Oh wait for him it isn't Posted via the Android Central App

Hehe

^^dullard ^^

meh Posted via the Android Central App

....Said no one ever Posted via the Android Central App

He just did. It's right there. You replied to it.

Be quiet tapioca

Rofl! Posted via the Android Central App

Wow. I'm probably not going to purchase but impressive none the less. Posted via the Android Central App

That's a 'red' score. This means invalid. In most situations it comes due to unusual high UX I/O scores. Only 'green' scores are valid. Proof: http://s229.photobucket.com/user/vagenrider/media/1287578090765655646gra... Check the UX I/O performance, in a 'green' score it's around 4000 for S6 Edge Plus. Here's it's like 37500, way more than normal. Hence the 'red'.

That's not a red score. What makes you think it is?

Who know they'd leap ahead of Samsung in benchmarks... Like... Ever? AT&T Galaxy Note 3 (On T-Mobile)

Considering that Sense is much lighter than TW that's not even hard to believe. HTC has always been good at optimization for the OS from my experience Posted via the Android Central App

And Samsung is too. Sense isn't any lighter that TW after the S6. Maybe it's clocked higher? AT&T Galaxy Note 3 (On T-Mobile)

Sense is dramatically lighter than TouchWiz. Just open the settings for proof. Sense is close to stock. TouchWiz is far different. Posted via the Android Central App

What's the last Samsung phone you used? AT&T Galaxy Note 3 (On T-Mobile)

This argument or whatever it is isn't worth having. Everyone has their own opinions. Have a nice day :) AT&T Galaxy Note 3 (On T-Mobile)

Sense is lighter and feels like stock in term of performance. And stock feels a lot faster than TW. I own both S7 edge and Nexus 6p.

S6 Edge. Posted via the Android Central App

What's the last HTC phone you've used? TouchWiz has gotten more bearable yes but it's still TouchWiz. Sense has always been the most fluid and buttery smooth oem skin. Posted via the Android Central App

Agreed Posted via the Android Central App

Samsung was never the best at optimizing TW along with all their bloat compared to HTC. They're barely getting better since the Note 4 and S6. HTC has been doing a much better job since the M7 and 8 and closer to stock. That said, I love TW on the s7 and think this is the best job yet. Posted via the Android Central App

Bloat was much better this year because most of it was just icon placeholders. If you wanted to use a 3rd party bloatware (and a couple of the Samsung gimmicks) you had to download to use them. Whatsapp for example sits on my phone as 0b because I disabled right away and never downloaded the app data. luvin my s7 edge

You're crazy Posted via Nexus 6 running on any data plan I want

Benchmarks mean nothing. You don't know if they were tested under identical conditions. Posted via the Android Central App

+1 Posted via the Android Central App

+1.12 Posted via the Android Central App

You got a higher benchmark score than the previous poster... you must be the winner! (le sigh)

Benchmarks matter for marketing. Marketing is a thing. A thing that matters.

Still not impressed and hate the physical button. Posted via the Android Central App

It's not a physical button. I have the A9, the fingerprint scanner doubles as a home shortcut, but there is not a click. It does not go down. It is not a button. Posted via the Android Central App

It's not a tumah! Posted via the Android Central App

HA! Posted via the Android Central App

S6, S7, A9, G5, 6s, and now the M10. Pick your flavor, because they all are starting to look alike. Not a Samsung fan, but at least the edge has some beauty to it and is different. Then you got the square slabs, like the Z5, Honor 5x. Or you can stick with the last generation style of the V10 or Nexus 5x, Moto Play. Guess it is true, we have hit the brick wall on smart phone innovation and design. I wonder how quickly the sales will follow the same track as PC's. I mean if you bought this generation, is there that much better then the last? If you are phone geek like us, sure. General Public, no. Apple see's the writing on the wall, which is why they have $399 phone out this year. This is going to be the year of the Mid-Range phones. Those $700 flagship phones are going to get much cheaper next year, at least that is a positive.

Nice but I don't think I can go back to physical keys anymore Posted via the Android Central App

then i assume you want your fingerprint sensor on the back or on the side

I like the LG G5's interpretation. Put the fingerprint scanner on the back and have it double as a power key. Posted via the Android Central App

Thought I was looking at a Samsung phone, lol. And benchmarks can be rigged. It runs an 820 which should give you an idea of its capabilities regardless of what number shows on a benchmark of an unreleased phone.

Couldn't care less how a phone benchmarks. That fingerprint scanner placement however really bugs me, in an eye twitchingly picky sort of way. Could they not have centered it properly? I know it doesn't really matter, but it's those sort of details that matter in design. Posted via the Android Central App

I'm sure it has to do with the speaker placement Posted via the Android Central App

What speaker? They did away with front facers.. Posted via the Android Central App

Rene Ritchie agrees with you.

Ouch, pass the aloe. Posted via the Android Central App

It was a sweet burn. Posted via the Android Central App

True. Fingerprint sensor is probably not secure either, lol. luvin my s7 edge

Lol #TeamFrosty Nexus 6P

People using phones that have centered the fingerprint scanner and capacitive buttons vertically have had issues with touching the buttons when touching the edge of the screen. The placement of the sensor and buttons makes sense in my book - a case of function over form.

if you knew design.. you'd realize there are tons of complaints with samsung, and apple about hitting the screen. This is actually an ergonomic , useful design. Whereas the others are based solely on symmetry.

The only people complaining are the ones who don't know how to hold a phone. I have 0 problems. None. Nada. Zilch. Nyet. Nine..... Posted via the Android Central App

You have nine problems? Damn, that's a lot. Posted via the Android Central App

But at least a ***** ain't one... His wife is hot (so he tells me) so I am sure she is sweet too Posted via the Android Central App

She is dammit! Posted via the Android Central App

I have no doubts... Posted via the Android Central App

Makes sense. I'm always opening an ad or app when I close out the Sammy home button. Htc would save me some issues with their placement. Posted via the Android Central App

Not thrilled with the physical button, unless it also has a built in touchpad, as in the HTC Incredible. And it's the camera button, too.
I am not at all happy with the lack of front-facing speakers. Front-facing speakers make so much sense, and it was the biggest reason I am such a fan of the HTC One series.

Might be the phone for my wife. She wants something with physical buttons and finger print scanner on the front. (Doesn't want s7) Posted via the Android Central App

Any chance this isn't a final casing? Like a very good test model and htc is actually doing a pretty good job keeping the final product hidden until the reveal? Posted via the Android Central App

Don't really care for benchmarks, honestly. But that home button placement is going to bother some people who want symmetry. (I live by 3 words. fastboot flashing unlock)

Like Rene :P
It does look odd, really.

Oh god. No, not that holes article that made no sense whatsoever.

At first I thought I was looking at the Galaxy S7 with that front button! As long as they don't have capacitive keys as well, I guess I could live with a front button.

A lot of people including myself prefer capacitive buttons. Not a fan of having to tap the screen to get the buttons to reappear. Why 2 taps instead of 1? Posted via the Android Central App

It has capacitive buttons, but I have also read that it will support onscreen buttons if you choose that configuration.

Another thought, I know it's just a benchmark but maybe they are experimenting with over clocking the 820 so it can handle the 4 cameras for the 360 VR experience. High speed camera read and write for real time VR capturing.
Either way hopefully it allows the camera to fire up, focus and shoot with blazing speed.
Any other thoughts for the possibility of a higher clock speed? Posted via the Android Central App

Why does that phone look like a Samsung? Posted via the Android Central App

You mean the Samsung, that looks like the G5, that looks like the A9, that looks like the iPhone? Seriously, put them on a table, take off the branding and I would guess 9 out of 10 people couldn't match the brand to phone.

The G5 looks nothing like a Samsung phone. Especially the S7e. Dude, say no to crack. just say no. Posted via the Android Central App

Why don't you guys link the story from years ago about how benchmarks can be manipulated Posted via the Android Central App

Wasn't that from Jerry last year? Posted via the Android Central App

Have there been any rumours of a larger screen variant of this such as a 5.5 incher? Screen size is too small for me so considering a s7 edge but might wait for the announcement first just in case! Posted via the Android Central App

I would prefer the 5.5 inch screen also. Once you get used to a larger screen it's tough to use a smaller one. Posted via the Android Central App

Because then Apple would file suit for making a knock off. With a different size screen, at least they have a defense.

Um, the S7e is 5.5". There's nothing apple can do about it so there is no defense. Period. Posted via the Android Central App

I hope whoever is holding that has small hands because that phone looks huge. That is one thing that will stop me from buying this phone. For me, the M9 was big enough, and the fact that it looks like a Samsuck and has capacitive buttons....ugh. Posted via Android Central App

I was just gonna say that it looks bigger than I expected, so I'm sharing the same hope :) VZW Moto X DE/N7

Is that photo taken with a 6P or 5X? It looks like a Nexus Posted via the Android Central App

No Posted via Nexus 6 running on any data plan I want

Any ideas on what it is? Posted via the Android Central App

I've read that the EXIF data shows that it was a Samsung Galaxy S7: "The image you see on the right, the best we can tell, is legit. The sender, who's chosen to stay anonymous, is located in Taiwan (where HTC is based), which lends some further credibility to the photo. The shot was taken with a Samsung Galaxy S7, which we know both because of the reflection and the untouched EXIF attached to the photo, which lists an SM-G930F, or an Exynos-based Galaxy S7 like the one we have in our offices. It checks out."

Figures htc would leak a picture taken with an s7. Posted via the Android Central App

That's because they know the camera on the m10 probably sucks. Posted via the Android Central App

As usual Posted via the Android Central App

Silly troll. You are smart enough to know this is not a HTC leak. http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-M10-seen-in-the-flesh-blazes-through-...

Yeah you go on believing that gullible little boy. Don't ever say the leaks of any phone is not from the company for hype sake. It is good marketing Posted via the Android Central App

We should join forces to destroy pink flower Jimbo. He must be dealt with. All of his delusional HTC talk cannot go on unpunished....hehe

Looks like it was taken with a Note 5.

Looks like the Samsung S7 or S7 Edge

If you look at the reflection, you can clearly see someone holding a Samsung phone taking the picture. Maybe the GS7 Edge? HTC's front-facing speakers were a game changer. If they abandon that for something more like the mainstream, I will surely pass on this phone.

Is it just me or does the front glass look convex?

I think it's just a bevel on the edge of the glass, but I can see where you'd think that. Posted via the Android Central App

It's 2.5D beveled glass. Posted via the Android Central App

The was the glass looks pronounced and rounded reminds me of a Nexus 6. Do I want this to be the HTC phone we want? Yes. Will this be the HTC phone we deserve? More than likely.

Wow looks great but Their timing is wrong. People already plopped money down on a S7 Posted via the Android Central App

That's right, 1st out the gate always wins Posted via the Android Central App

Despite earlier release and expensive marketing, after the initial flurry of Samsung enthusiasts, practically no one is at the Best Buy Samsung kiosk. Apparently people have little reason to chomp at the bit to upgrade. I doubt HTC's timing was as damaging as tech forum bloggers and fanboys tend to believe. Moreover, HTC patience may have been beneficial for several reasons.

idiots.

It's a no win situation. You release at the same time and your phone gets lost in a tsunami of Samsung marketing. Launch later and people have already bought S7s... Best thing they could do is go exactly 6 months apart. Posted via the Android Central App

Yep, but the end of the year means pushing a phone with an older processor.

Yep, that's another no win situation. Though I think probably the least bad option for them. Posted via the Android Central App

or worse, attempt to launch too early and still have bugs in the early stage models and are too late and locked in to fix / address the problem correctly.

... And that's when the Note series is launched lol Posted via Xperia Z5

Lol true. HTC needs to invent a new month or something. Posted via the Android Central App

I'm not plopping anything into a locker bootloader... TYVM At least you know HTC will have it un-lockable day one on their site, as usual.

Lol. 1st why do ppl get upset over a button. And 2ndly how drasticly different can one phone design be from the next. "it looks like a samsung". Every phone looks the same to me for the most part..... It iggs the **** outta me sometimes on how nitpicky ppl can be. Uh that doesn't look right, no go! And I'm no htc loyalist by any stretch Posted via the Android Central App

Good grief. Gotta love the comments. The article talks benchmarks and the bozos are already off chatting about the "chin" and the bezels. Haters gonna hate. So don't buy it. Keep your crappy Samsung phones. Betcha my phone'll be better than yours.

And Samsung fanboys attract haters with rude comments with a mine is better than yours ignorance like flies to dung pile.

Yep. They sure like comparing sizes :)

Yeah, learned from GOP ¿Presidential? debates debacle.

Lol, the irony of this comment. Posted via the Android Central App

Most of us are ignoring the benchmarks because benchmarks lie and aren't to be trusted, especially before they're in the hands of reviewers or regular users. So we're remarking on the device itself and ignoring what's on the screen.

Another episode of benchmark cheating??

Samsung invented that.. and still does it. Their benchmarks ran at a rate not attainable in actual day to day usage, that was never the case with HTC. All things considered... Everyone on that list is "cheating", and it's still on top.

A 820 is a 820. Antutu is the worst benchmark out there.

An 820 is an 820 but wont perform the same when it's not optimized or coded good by the OEM. Posted via the Android Central App

If it is an 820, unless some mfg totally screwed the pooch on the software side or goes with less ram, you won't be able to tell the difference in day to day use between brands. I don't need to see a benchmark, only a video of someone running through apps for 5 minutes will do. Benchmarks are useless.

All I care about is battery life. And maybe camera. But if this has a camera on par with the s7 and better battery life, it would go way up my ranks for a new smartphone candidate.

Was the Samsung running the 820 or the Exynos? Posted via the Android Central App

820 for U.S. users. Exynos for everyone else. For benchmarks? They did both. Posted via the Android Central App

Too small of screen for me . Posted via the Android Central App

HTC? No Thanks. Posted Via The Android Central App From My Samsung Galaxy S5. :-)

Galaxy s5...I use it as a paper weight. The glossy stone I was using was too nice Posted via the Android Central App

I'll wait until the legitimate tests roll out, thank you. However, it should be noted that the code running on an SOC absolutely is important. Rewind to 1994 and the release of "BOS" for the Apple 6502b address enhanced processor. The OS was the only difference, the hardware was identical. Yet with a more optimized code, the computer screamed and ran rings around Apple's own "SOS" operating system equipped computers. Enhanced functionally, much better performance, all on the same hardware.
Like I said, I'll wait, but I would not be the least bit surprised if the 10 still comes out slightly ahead of others running the same chip. HTC did the same with SD 801, and the M8 was the fastest 801 in the world. Likewise the 810.
However, we're at the point where performance is pretty high for all oem's, so unless the software is laggy, I would not worry. It's more about features and aesthetics now, with function taking a back seat. Speaking of which; the scanner button may look odd in its placement lower than expected, but think about the shape of your digit and what position it will likely be in with most users. Intentionally moving it away from the screen to avoid false screen presses won't be appreciated by anyone but those who own and use this phone, and it will make sense in real world use. Posted via the Android Central App

bleh.... big bezel bleh...

I'm liking the design so far. Posted via the Android Central App

Damn killed the s7 in benchmarks Posted via the Android Central App