There are still a few idiots left using the Galaxy Note 7

Samsung Galaxy Note 7
Samsung Galaxy Note 7

By now, most of the average phone-buying public has forgotten about the whole Galaxy Note 7 fiasco. That thing where many Note 7s had batteries that failed (sometimes dangerously), leading to a recall and replacement program, which was followed again by the new units failing just as spectacularly.

Samsung, carriers and local regulatory bodies have gone to extensive lengths to make Galaxy Note 7s unusable. It started with a software push that nagged you to return your phone. Then a software update that limited your battery charge — and another that limited it further. Then the carriers stepped in and started to block SIMs that were used in a Note 7. Eventually Samsung issued software updates that made it difficult or impossible to charge the phone.

Still, people who love their Note 7 held on tight (hopefully not too tight) and are still using their phones today — albeit in a diminished state. They've skipped software updates, rooted their phones or modified them in another way to keep them in use. There are some workarounds actively being discussed to get the software back up and working. The barely-alive Galaxy Note 7 subreddit still has a little activity, and if you search around you can still find diehard Note 7 users out there — despite the newer Note 8 being on sale for 11 months now, and refurbished Note 5s being available for a steep discount. Heck, even the Note 7 Fan Edition is available in some regions.

Despite all of the effort, as of April 2018 even Samsung's own recall page (opens in new tab) notes that "nearly all" recalled Note 7s have been returned — yes, that means there are still active devices out there.

Somehow, Samsung hasn't been able to capture every recalled Note 7 yet.

For the first few months after the reports of Note 7 battery failures rolled in, despite our calls for everyone to return their Note 7 right away, it was at least a partially understandable position to hold onto your Note 7. Now, it isn't — and honestly it hasn't been for about a year now. The Galaxy Note 7 was a really great device before it started to exhibit its horrible battery safety flaw. But it's been replaced with products that are newer and more capable — and critically, ones that don't catch fire.

This has to stop, folks. Nobody should be using an original Note 7 anymore. Contact Samsung or your carrier and return it for a refund (opens in new tab). And when you do, get ready to upgrade to the new Galaxy Note 9 — it's time to move on.

Andrew was an Executive Editor, U.S. at Android Central between 2012 and 2020.

236 Comments
  • You wanna know why people still have the Note 7? 'Merica!! That's why.
  • Considering the Note 7 was sold worldwide, I'm not sure what that has to do with it.
  • I believe he is saying that it's personal choice and the writer should mind his own damn business, no matter what country they are in, but especially one that is supposed to enjoy freedom.
  • Huh?
  • I ... uh ... what?
  • Well, based on your profile image and attitude, there's no doubt where you fall on the political spectrum. I think he was actually saying that American's feel entitled and are stubborn. But, that is my opinion of his statement. Unless he chimes in to clarify, we're all just guessing.
  • Based on your profile and attitude, I could assume several things about you, but what does that or politics have to do with this subject?
  • Seriously dude, you consider it personal choice to take this self-combusting piece of cr*p on a plane with others? I have a GS7 and am looking to move to a Note 9 soon, so am totally Samsung here. Just to be clear, Andrew did use the word 'idiots' in the headline, right?
  • I was really just being silly, but Pizza_pablo was the closest to what I intended by my comment. Americans are known for their "rugged individualism" and desire for liberty and freedom -- even with the inherent risk that sometimes comes along with it. I always appreciate the defiant libertarianism which you see when an individual is told that he can't do something so he "rebel" against the system. It's not just American, but America is caricatured by it. I say that as a Canadian who lives in America and completely embraces it.
  • Until it burns a customer or causes damage leaving to a lawsuit. How a fast food customer was able to sue for her hot coffee burning then when it spilled. Didn't say "hot" on the side and they won because of stupidity and common sense being a tough concept Seen enough in my line of work that no matter how dangerous, stupid, crazy, etc people just don't listen and will do whatever they want regardless of the consequences!
  • Samsung won't have to worry about lawsuits stemming from a Note7, because it is well documented that there were defects in manufacturing, and that there was a massive and total global recall on the device. Anyone taking a chance with a Note7 is taking a very small chance with it, and I'm sure they're willing to live with the consequences.
  • If the Note 7s currently in use have not exploded in 2 years, what makes you think they will?
  • Your understanding of the McDonalds coffee incident is deeply flawed. Adam Ruins Everything did a segment on it, please learn what really happened. For one, the coffee was so hot (around 190F, McD said customers liked it that way) that it caused third degree burns on the woman, which are the most serious level) Search YouTube for "The Truth About the McDonald's Coffee Lawsuit".
  • Damned right, if I could buy a brand new Note7 right now, I'd do it. Merica!
  • no, wrong, Murica!
  • You sound jealous Andrew. The form factor of the Note 7 is absolutely perfect for some (among other attributes of the phone) and they've chosen to accept the risk to enjoy it. People can and should keep using their Note 7's if they choose to do so. You're the one that needs to move on.
  • You are as stupid as they are
  • I turned 2 Note 7's in during the recall, and I think people are taking a ridiculously unnecessary risk by keeping it. However, it is interesting that we haven't heard any stories of these devices catching fire by those who've kept theirs. It could happen at any time, and I wouldn't put my family's safety at risk for a phone, but obviously they've chosen to and it's paid off for them thus far. I freaking loved my Note 7
  • If their phones haven't failed by now then they probably won't until the owners wish to buy a newer phone.
  • Keyword being 'probably'. Because this situation is all about probability. Of all Note7's sold, a couple % met the fiery end. Even if it was 1% phones that blew up over those two-three months, with hypothetical hundreds thousands of the phone, the ones that blew up are counted in thousands (I don't know the actual numbers). Now, there number of actively used Note7's is much lower, and so, statistically a negligible number will blow up. Are you safe with a Note7? No. Will every single Note7 blow up? Maybe in a couple years, but not quite yet.
  • People's choices affect others. If the phone catches on fire at night in a dorm, apartment, etc, other people lose their possessions or their lives because someone chose "to accept the risk to enjoy it". Most people don't live on an island. That's like saying hey I like drinking and driving and I accept the risk, regardless of the fact that it can most certainly harm others.
  • There's a major flaw with all this though... The phone that these people are carrying around, has lasted nearly TWO YEARS without a problem. So tell me, how is it a risk at this point? If they were at risk, then it would mean that by now their phones would have already went up in flames. Since they haven't, then their phones aren't exactly faulty now are they? So yea, they took an initial risk by keeping their phone. but ya know what? it paid off. I wish I had taken that risk with the OG Note 7. That phone ran perfectly fine. Didn't get hot, kept powerhousing through everything I ever needed it to. But then I joined that 'return the device' bandwagon, got my 'replacement', which ran noticeably WORSE than the original, got hot constantly just by being in a pocket, and couldn't even CHARGE while having the screen on using google maps for a 800 mile vacation trip! Now THAT phone I was afraid of, and instantly took it back and got an LG V20 since Google deemed me unworthy of being allowed to purchase their Pixel Phones... So no, I don't think these people should be forced to return their Note 7s. They're running perfectly fine for what they're needing them for, and no longer pose an ACTUAL risk to people's lives if they haven't go poof already. So like the original post of this 'thread' said, people need to shut up and just move on. EVERY phone you carry around has that risk of going up in flames. Sure some are more likely than others. But how about this: When several different generations of iPhones started 'exploding' and 'catching fire'... No one gave a f***... Not a single person actually cared. Hundreds if not thousands of these devices went boom, and all you ever saw was one, maybe two articles about it in some obscure website. No one cared that the iPhone they carried around could burn down their car (which yes, that happened). But when an android device has it happen to a HANDFUL of people... suddenly there's an uproar... Its sad and pathetic. Yea sure it means that our community is more mindful of whats going on, and we take more care of what we do with our devices... But come on... This is taking hypocrisy to the next level...
  • "Hey, I've been carrying this stick of dynamite around for two years very carefully. Yea I know it could blow up any moment, but dude it never happened for two years! Tell me, how is it a risk at this point? I mean if it was a risk I would've already blown up" This is how you sound. A known defective design that is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and can cause loss of life inadvertently is not something you should be carrying around. It's like having a gun in your pocket, a gun that is triggered by a slight breeze, has no safeties, and is loaded. Would you go out like that, with the gun pointed at your genital area? I guess not. So be the smart one and ******* return that Note7. IT IS ******* DANGEROUS.
  • That's quite the imaginary analogy you created there. If the Note 7 catches fire is it guaranteed to be pointing at the owner's genitals?
  • I have a Samsung Galaxy S9+. Can you guarantee me that I'm not carrying a stick of dynamite? What if it's ANY OTHER PHONE? Can you guarantee that it won't blow up in my pants at any time?
  • Exactly.
  • What exact "known defective design" that is "extremely dangerous" did the Note 7 have that other phones don't have again? We're all waiting for your answer.
  • Is the battery cavity not having enough space for thermal expansion good enough for you? Because that was the primary cause for the recall, the second one was because if you dropped the phone on the edge, there was a piece that could potentially bend inwards and push on the battery. Have you really been acting like the n7 was perfect?
  • Except any Lithium Cell batteries degrade after time, traditionally (but not an absolute by any means) with more problems due to heat and power consumption issues. The potential for these phones to have greater issues later on is increased, especially if they were proned in the first place. Why tempt fate when there are better options out there anyways? Seems dumb and irresponsible to say the least.
  • Lithium polymer. Is what is being used... not lithium Ion
  • There is no flaw. They were recalled for a reason. It's a design flaw and it's great that the people who decided to keep them aren't running through the street on fire, but if you don't understand why it's an unnecessary risk, no explanation is ever going to work for you. If it does go up in flames and someone tries to file a claim and it's shown that it started from a device that was actively recalled, forget collecting. Forget replacing your lost possessions, or the other people you screwed over. But it's all good. Someone always has to poke the bear. Better you than me. You seem to be taking it so personally that Apple didn't get this kind of scrutiny. Relax. Life is happier when you let that stuff go.
  • You don't have to include drinking to the driving. Driving sober is a risk to you and others. If you choose to accept the risk then you accept the consequences to you and others if you cause an injury or death. Thousands die annually when we choose that risk.
  • The difference with driving sober is that everyone else on the road agrees to abide by the same rule of not intentionally driving impaired and has agreed to the implied risk thereof.
  • The fact that you even had to explain that part of it makes me sad. I figured it would be understood by everyone. Apparently not.
  • No, not necessarily. There's plenty of people out on the road who don't agree to abide by the rules. It just happens to be they haven't gotten caught yet. When you go out on the road you realize this but get behind the wheel anyway. Life is full of risks.
  • We found one
  • Yes, among those attributes is a propensity to have the battery overload and catch on fire. It was enough of a safety risk that a world wide manufacturer put out a massive and complete recall with the help of every major carrier in the North America and most of Europe. But by all means, they should keep using it because it's so pretty. Gene pool needs a bit more chlorine.
  • dude. they are literally putting OTHER PEOPLE’S LIVE AT RISK by using that phone. it’s not a simple “oh well if they like phone they should keep using it”. it’s on recall for EXPLODING
  • ZP15, not one mother phucking phone exploded. Not a single one.....had they exploded, death would ensue. There was less than 200,000 defective units out of over 2.5 million devices sold.
  • There is no simple "risk" to accept. The phone has proven to have a design that is unstable and unsafe, and one that can physically harm you and the people around you. There is absolutely zero way to justify using this device today.
  • Do you ever have your cellphone in your hand or in your pocket or on your person when your pumping gasoline into your car? The chance of a fire or explosion are higher in that scenario than of a Note 7 exploding yet people do it on a daily basis. So if you do then you're an idiot too.
  • Modern studies have shown that there is no correlation between using your phone while pumping gas and explosions or fires occurring. But no, I don't typically have my phone on me while pumping gas. It's either in a dash mount or in the center console while I drive, and that's where it stays when I get out of the car. Not sure what that has to do with any of this, though. Samsung said that its product is unsafe, and is offering to replace it for a complete refund. You should do that.
  • Well I personally didn't hold onto my Note 7. I returned it twice much like you did. As far as the gas station/cellular phone issues, the problem is the static electricity. That is what can light up the gasoline fumes and that is why there is still warnings at every gas pump in the USA at least. The point was that there is inherent dangers around us at all times and people (idiots and non-idiots alike) take on those risks constantly. Some of which are far greater than owning a Note 7.
  • The Note 7 phones that are still in the wild are not from the batches of phones/batteries that were identified as the problem children. Leave it to Daddy Marty to call people idiots for using perfectly good phones of their choice. Thanks, Marty, without your blog I wouldn't have a personal value system (my eyes rolled so far back that they almost got stuck that way...wait...)
  • Unless its a Note FE, there is no such thing as a note 7 that isn't a "problem child",
  • Also vaccines cause autism.
  • You are absolutely wrong. If all of a sudden the pho e was in their pocket or near their bed and it exploded or cought something on fire then that could cause their house to burn down or serious injuries to them or other people. So no it isn't okay for people to keep using the original note 7. You sound like a complete moron.
  • Fires happen everyday from blowing out candles on a cake, cooking a meal, smoking cigarettes, changing out a light switch, etc. I guess we should never do any of those things either.
  • Not with recalled candles or a stove with a recalled gas emitter valve. Yes, you have danger everywhere, no need to increase the odds with a faulty device on top of it. That seems pretty elementary.
  • Exactly! We all take risks in life, why add to that list and needlessly increase your chances of something bad happening? Comparing keeping a phone, just because you like it, to the risks involved in essential activities like cooking food and changing lightbulbs is a bizarre comparison.
  • Do you keep your stove on, candles lit, and cigarette lit when you go to bed? Those things all have an inherent "risk" when using them, but are relatively safe when used properly. But when used outside of how they are intended to be used, that's where problems occur. Same with the Note 7, it's recalled for a reason, so it is now being used by these folks outside of it's intended use since we know they are defective. Why are you still arguing this? There's no argument anymore. The manufacturer has recalled ALL - meaning EVERY SINGLE ONE - of the Note 7s produced world wide. That alone negates every argument you or anyone else could have for keeping the phone. Doesn't matter what you compare it to, because nothing you are describing relates to it.
  • It was not a mandatory recall.
  • Mandatory vs volunteering recalls are only referring to wether or not the government has stepped in to force a company to recall something. Has nothing to do with putting a legality on a consumers right to keep a product or not. Again, mute argument.
  • Bottom line is the Note 7 is not illegal to use.
  • Yeah, it actually is. A recalled product is forbidden in the market, regardless of if the government mandated the recall or not. Samsung registered the recall with the government and cooperated with it to achieve the recall. You'd probably get in some serious **** for walking into a government building or an airplane with a N7, and you would absolutely get in legal trouble for attempting to sell one.
  • This sounds like satire.
  • ..it's worth holding onto just as a collectible; the infamous Note 7, right up there on the display next to the original iPhone, Nexus One and Motorola Droid..
  • Up until the moment it blows up and takes all the other phones with it. If you're that keen on keeping the Note7 as a collectible, be sensible and have the battery removed by a professional.
  • He could just have let the battery discharge on it's own.
  • Not cool to call people idiots, for their choice. Will it hurt you personally? Do you have a stake in Samsung? Are you their keeper? I expect a regular poster to comment that way, but not a editor. It’s easy to say “throw away, and buy new”, but a lot of people can’t do that, or love their decision. Analogy, you get a car with defective airbags, that’s past it’s warranty, you don’t just go, and buy a new car, even if you may not have the finances, you cope and find a solution. Note7’s bought on a carrier plan, still have to be paid off, and upgrading to newer cost. I can see why some are still out there, and it’s the persons choice if they want to keep theirs. Calling a person a “idiot” isn’t cool.
  • Comparison to airbags doesn't fly, a friend just had his airbags replaced in a 2006 Honda CRV. There is no good reason to knowingly drive around with defective airbags...it's like having a shotgun pointed at your face.
  • you can’t compare it to driving with no airbags because it can hurt literally anyone around the phone, not just the phone’s owner. analogy: would you drive a car that, when driving past other cars, disabled their airbags too?
  • Because he's an editor he can't tell the truth,because that's what he's doing,they are idiots.
  • Samsung is giving people a 100% refund for their Note 7, or a partial refund and a replacement device. There is no reason to not replace the phone, and there definitely isn't a financial reason. The airbag analogy is flawed for many reasons, not the least of which being that when an auto maker has an airbag recall, they fix your airbags free of charge -- just like Samsung is offering to fix your Note 7 problem by replacing it with a 100% refund or a new safe device.
  • Yeah no, your argument is completely invalid because anyone who keeps a recalled item that can put other people near them in danger is an idiot. Period.
  • Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Thank you for yours.
  • I still carry my Note 7 when backpacking as an emergency fire starter.
  • If they've been working fine for this long, why are the people idiots?
  • Read up on how lithium cells work and degrade over time... They get MORE dangerous as they age, not less. It's a bit like keeping a glass vial of deadly neurotoxin balanced on a two metre high two centimetre wide plinth in your living room... Just because it hasn't fallen and killed your family after six months doesn't mean it's now safe.
  • 1. Degrading over time is true of all lithium cells. It's not unique to the ones in the Note 7. 2. The problem with the Note 7 batteries is that some batteries had a flawed corner where the elements are bent and more likely to cause problems. There's no telling if these people own Note 7s with or without the flaw. The fact that they've lasted 2 years without problems implies they got a good battery. Personally, I wouldn't have kept the Note 7 if I got one. But that doesn't mean there aren't good ones out there.
  • 1. Of course it is, but the degradation is that much more likely to cause an issue in a cell that was already faulty to begin with. 2. See 1. It was never actually publicly revealed what caused the batteries to critically fail, what you just stated is a guess. When it comes to the Note 7 there are no good batteries. That's not my opinion, it's Samsung's. And anyone who thinks they know better than Samsung and are willing to put their life and the lives of those around them at risk based on that belief is, in fact, an idiot.
  • It was publicly revealed in detail. Not a guess at all. Your "more likely" statement assumes they're all bad. Samsung never said all of them are bad. They simply took the right precaution rather than take chances. And, like I said, I would have returned the Note 7, myself. People who post that they're on their 3rd or 4th Pixel due to problems -- are they idiots? They've actually experienced problems repeatedly, yet they keep RMAing and ordering a new one. I'd say they're more idiotic than the few Note 7 stragglers.
  • Source or it didn't happen. And yes, it does assume they're all bad. Which is the correct thing to do when there's no way to tell which are good and which are bad... If any are good at all. It's a bit like gun safety, always treat a gun like it's loaded, even if you *know* it isn't. Depends with the pixel... If they BOUGHT 3 or 4 of the same phone they had problems with then yeah, they're idiots. If it's a warranty replacement then no, they're not. It's a false equivalence. A few screen issues are annoying, but not even remotely in the same league as having a chance to burn a house down, killing the occupants.
  • Plenty of articles say it was due to a bent corner and was an took seconds on google to find. This source claims they did an interview with Samsung. Which Samsung claims was confirmed by 3 independent safety companies including UL. "For the first battery, Samsung says a design flaw in the upper right corner of the battery made the electrodes prone to bend and, in some cases, led to a breakdown in the separation between positive and negative tabs, causing a short circuit. With the second battery, which came from a separate supplier, Samsung believes there was nothing wrong with the design itself, but says a manufacturing issue led to a welding defect that prompted that battery to also short circuit and ignite." https://www.recode.net/2017/1/22/14330404/samsung-note-7-problems-batter...
  • There's no implications here. ALL Note 7s were recalled, meaning they are ALL defective. The only way you could "imply" that you had a good phone was if the manufacturer recalled any number LESS THAN all devices, you "implied" whether it was good or bad at one point until you confirmed the status of your said device, and once you got confirmation of it being good or bad, your implication was then changed to a factual state of being good or bad. There is no implying, assuming, etc that anyone's Note 7 is good when the manufacturer has recalled ALL devices.
  • No, a recall does not mean that "ALL" devices are defective. It means that the mfg has determined that a statistical threshold has been satisfied, thereby limiting liability, damage to reputation and/or penalties from government(s) by issuing a recall. Let a guy take personal responsibility and allow him to use the device of his choice. If I had one, I'd use it and post pics of it often just to set off all of the SJWs here that think it's their business to get into mine.
  • Personal responsibility does not enter a conversation about a device that has the potential to harm others. What is so hard about this? I don't give a **** if you eat the tainted lettuce that's going around, that's up to you. A phone that can potentially ignite due to a manufacturing flaw that is literally impossible to detect without an X-ray machine and the defect can be induced by physical damage?
    **** no, **** you, and **** your "haha I wanna troll the sjw" bullshit. Grow up, and understand that personal responsibility includes not endangering others.
  • If they degrade over time and get more dangerous, that's even more peculiar why none of these have caught fire.
  • Because it's a design fault, resulting in varied "delays" of blowing up. Sure, those phones might've been fine for the past two years, but the problem is there's not enough space for the battery in its compartment, and the users do not know what amount of warp will push the cell layers to short and blow up. Meaning even simply just carrying it in your pocket for exactly 745 days could result in the warping required for this, if you're a skinny person, and could happen a lot sooner if you're fat. Lots of factors playing here, and it's impossible to predict when it will fail. It's like having a bomb on you every day, that HAS a counter but you never know how much time is left, and if any of your actions will shorten that time.
  • And they probably didn't get hit by a car the last time they ran across the street without looking. That doesn't mean they shouldn't look the next time. I mean c'mon. This is the simplest logical fallacy ever. When the device has been proven to be unstable and unsafe, by the manufacturer, simply saying that it hasn't failed one day doesn't make it less likely to fail the next day. Just replace the phone and know that it will not be your problem for that day forward.
  • Mother Nature's law of natural selection is at work. Let's leave these idiots be.
  • She's been sleeping on the job, there's a lot of catching up.
  • It's really annoying so see you dipshits who have never used the Note 7 complain about it. At the time of release, it's by far the most perfect phone in every way except the battery. If some people choose to take a risk smaller than dying to a grape in the throat, it's their ******* choice.
  • I literally did the review of the Note 7 the day it came out, and then used it until the phone was recalled. I then used a replacement phone until that one was also recalled.
  • I owned 2 Note 7's. The first one, and the replacement that Samsung pretended they fixed when they obviously didn't. And yes, it has been my favorite phone to date by quite a large margin, and I seriously HATED taking it back and returning to my Note 4 until the Note 8 was released. That being said, no one's safety is worth a phone. I have a family and I owe on a mortgage, and it wasn't worth losing any of those things to keep my Note 7 as much as I loved it. The color, the form factor, the performance, I loved it all and of course Samsung didn't give us the Note 8 in the same blue coral of the Note 7. With all of that being said, I do agree with you that it's their choice. I think they're making a poor choice, but that's not up to me, Samsung, or Android Central.
  • wow....haven't read such spiteful responses about the OP. you can disagree without the anger. it makes reading the comments more enjoyable when you can agree to disagree....thank you.
  • Agreed. I think some people feel personally attacked so they are responding defensively.
  • Kind of hard to recover when the editor starts off calling people idiots in the title.
  • People who continue to use Note 7s, even knowing the risks involved in using the device, are idiots.
  • Sure. I totally agree. I'm just saying that it's hard to discourage/recover from finger pointing and name calling in a thread when the editor starts off calling people idiots. Unprofessional. It's a terrible decision for someone to hang onto one of these devices.
  • The whole "idiots" thing isn't even the point of the article. People are using it as a distraction from the real message.
  • Don't wanna be called an idiot, don't act like an idiot. Stupid is as stupid does.
  • True. And by the same token, if you don't want to get harsh comments, don't start your article out by insulting a group of people; even if they deserve it.
  • Um, really? I guess that the op didn' really call anyone and idiot..wait...
  • Unless people are carrying the FE, I have one of those
  • That's a nice phone. Isn't it the last Note without totally curved edges?
  • FE is a Note 7 with a 3100(3200?) mAh battery
  • FE is fine!
  • Idiots? Do better than that.
  • How about dumbasses?
  • I still have mine and use it for movies and music, because I still love it, just like mentioned in the article. Amazing display, camera and pen software. Because of updates it won't go higher than 60%,but it doesn't make me a idiot. Just like it doesn't make Toyota owners an idiot for driving cars that had been recalled for airbags. I don't know man, I feel like this was a bit rude and raw...
  • They are being called idiots because they keep insisting that is their risk and their choice to keep it and just ignore every intelligent explanation of why that is not the case: - Design flaw which make the phone espontaneouly catch fire, there is no way to tell if one of them will catch fire today, tomorrow or in 2 years and 3 months, or at all. The fact it has not done it yet does not mean it will not.
    - These batteries degrade with time so if chances were high when new they are higher now.
    - A phone catching fire is likely to hurt people other than just the owner and damage others property too, stop comaparing it to an airbag, the only one affected by having a faulty one is the driver.
    - There are now many good options to replace it. In my opinion they should be called worst...
  • I think you meant: worse*
  • Your phone is unsafe. This isn't up to debate, Samsung has shown us exactly how and why it's unsafe. Please return it to Samsung and get your refund. Spend the money on a newer device that's safe to use. And yes, if someone has a car that has airbags that were recalled and they haven't taken it in for new airbags, they're also an idiot. Faulty airbags will actually kill you and your passenger, in the event of a crash or in some cases without an impact -- why would you defend that action?
  • No, a couple of batches were unsafe, c'mon, you're better than fake news.
  • Who do you work for? How can you confirm that this is fake news? By what authority do you claim to know better than Samsung?
  • No, it was spot on.
  • It appears many people don't realize the risks they live with day in and day out (and the likelihood of those risks resulting in loss) so they are horrified when they learn of one, as small as it may be in comparison.
  • Oh they know the risks of continuing to use a Note 7, it's just they don't care and are being stubborn.
  • I'm talking about the hundreds of other risks taken on a daily basis.
  • Oh good god. You are an idiot. You know that the device is flawed, and batteries degrade as they age. You're putting yourself, your family, and everyone else at risk because you keep using your recalled phone. The recalled airbag example is a logical fallacy. Everyone needs to stop using that terrible argument.
  • You take it in public? To the movies? Restaurant? Bus? Airplane?
    For that matter live in a house with other people? Then yeah. Airbag flaw only kills driver after accident.
  • Unfortunately, idiots don't know they're idiots... Usually even after being told. I'm sorry to tell you this Lexi, but you're being an idiot. The good news is, you can prove you're not an idiot anymore... Just take the phone back to Samsung. And those those Toyota drivers? Guess what... They're idiots too. Big Gorram idiots... The kind that shouldn't be trusted with house plants.
  • Love it fuzzylumpkin. Everything you've been saying. See, often times I think what the world would be like if people just didn't go against what more intelligent people (in these specific fields/incidences) tell them to do. Oh, Samsung and outside agencies did countless hours of investigation into the matter and told us all it's unsafe...NAAAHHHHH fu©k it, I'll be good! Hmmmmm.
  • Wow people are still using that fire Hazard of a phone? I don't see the appeal of the Note series or any Samsung phones for that matter.
  • I see the appeal of the Note phones. And there's a great Note 8, and soon to be a Note 9, available for all of these remaining Note fans to go use.
  • I guess you're right, the Note is good for productivity with the S Pen but I just can't stand Samsung's software otherwise I'd be interested especially as I really like the Note 8, design wise.
  • Beno, did you just... compliment Samsung? No comments on your buttery smooth, flawless, gift from heaven Pixel 2XL? Well, I'll be.
  • "Samsung's own recall page notes that "nearly all" recalled Note 7s have been returned" Just because it hasn't been returned, doesn't definitively mean that the ones that haven't been returned are still in use. Some people may have just tossed it out, some may have kept it and never used it again, some may have "blown-up" and just never been reported.
  • I know for sure that there are some cases where people HAD to toss the phone as it was not allowed on airplanes. In these cases Samsung DID generally authorize the refund.
  • Absolutely. But as I point out, there's lots of evidence around various places on the internet showing the phones actively being used in recent weeks. And that's just the people who choose to talk about it.
  • If someone wants to keep their phone, it's not your damn business Andrew. If I had one perfectly fine I would keep it to, maybe, maybe not, I don't know, but it would be my choice. You get it? So put your crown down and stop name calling people. Because I read every post and most outrage is about your language not your opinion. Therefore total of 5 people agree with you. Now I bet you 2 cents nor you or 5 of your supporters would never return and walk away in your own 2 feet if you called me an idiot to my face. With that said, you should apologize to whom you may offended and think 2x about your messages you put out next time. You are a tech channel, not a God damn CNN.
  • Wow, a tough guy idiot. I support Andrew and would definitely call you an idiot to your face, especially after reading that comment.
  • Yeah, I'm sure you would...
  • If I saw you taking black and white selfies, looking off into the distance reflectively, I definitely would. Idiot.
  • If you saw me taking black and white selfies? I don't hide my face morlock. The picture is not a selfie, anyhow you have a dispute? PM me! You wanna challenge my opinion and think it's totally OK call people Idiots?, when you are editor of big tech news site? No problem, meet me. Otherwise STFU and go back to your corner.
  • The way you are acting that is definitely your photo, I'm sure lots of people put other guys photos as their profile pic........right. You have proven yourself as an idiot and a tool by threatening physical violence against an editor and members of this site over a phone you don't have and never did. Calm down keyboard warrior.
  • Yes that is me, right... you think everyone hides behind avatars like you? You have no idea FF. I did not threaten anyone, I pointed out what I would do if someone allow them self to say anything like that to my face, therefore it's not the behaviour shall be accepted of big tech editorial site. And as far as you, go troll someone else. I already told you what to do if you have a dispute with me. I'm done here.
  • You said "you or your supports wouldn't walk way with your own 2 feet" what ever broken English crap that's supposed to be, which is a threat, then your trying to get me to PM you to meet up for a fight, very threatening tough guy. I'll tell you what, next time you're in Ann Arbor, Michigan in town on business from Afghanistan, hit me up, I'll take you to Zingerman's and buy your dumb *** a sandwich. Good day idiot.
  • Wow guy from Michigan and can't spell worth of sh*t. I'm not from Afganistan dumb F. I see you are racist to. But I have been to Afghanistan, to protect the low life MF like you. You would not have a courage to even breathe toward me, that I can guarantee. Why all this fuss? PM...
  • So I guess you're not done. "You would not have "a" courage", really, you cant even write English, no way you were in the military after hearing the crap in these posts. Citation needed or it's a lie. And again threatening me, after I offered to buy you a sandwich, all over a phone you never had. I think you need help for your anger issues. Good luck idiot.
  • Good f*ck off.
  • You keep saying you're done but then keep responding, I do not think that word means wha