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Just say no to 16 gigabytes of storage in 2015

The Christmas holiday meant taking a lot of photos from several different devices for me. My youngest daughter ran around all day with my HTC RE Camera, and between grabbing 4K video on my 2014 Moto X and importing photos from the RE and the Olympus Image Share app connected to the Pen E-P5 my phone got quite the workout. By the end of the day we had managed to consume nearly 10GB of the 26GB that Motorola allows me access to on this 32GB phone. I recognized that I had done this to myself, and after dumping everything to my Desktop it became even less of a problem for me, but I couldn't help but wonder how little I'd have been able to do if I had opted for the 16GB version of this phone.

Our smartphones continue to consume more and more storage every generation, which is what happens when every part of your mobile experience gets bigger and better. While Google's plan to have everything in the cloud is nice on paper, there has to be enough local storage to actually get that content to the cloud in the first place. The 16GB version of the 2014 Moto X takes 6GB for the system, leaving you with 10GB to more or less use however you want. After all of my apps are installed and cache for things like Google+ and Chrome have been established, I'd have about 4GB left to do whatever I want with. The average photo on this camera takes up around 3MB, and in 4K mode the video consumes a little over 6.5MB every second. Lets not even get started on the storage consumed by the photo and video editing features that are built into almost every OEM-flavored Android phone nowadays. The bottom line is the same — 16GB of storage really just doesn't cut it long term.

It's right around this point that those of you with removable storage feel pretty good about your purchases this year, and rightly so. Removable storage puts the user in control of exactly how much storage is available, and you can spend as much or as little as you like to get the storage amount that is right for you. With the improvements to removable storage support seen in Android 5.0 it's possible more manufacturers will swing back to offering microSD card slots on some devices — and the Saygus V2 and its potential for 320GB of total storage is downright ridiculous — but it's unlikely that we'll return to a point anytime soon where that removable storage slot is the default. For one, most of the devices we'll see this year have been in development before Android 5.0 was announced. What's more is there's still a huge perception problem to be addressed with cheap removable storage, since most of the time it's the manufacturer of the phone and not the cheap microSD card that gets blamed when performance takes a hit.

And then there's the fact that SD cards by nature are not really means for secure storage. (But that's another column for another time.)

The best all-around solution is for manufacturers to ditch 16GB of storage as their cheapest model for flagship phones in 2015. HTC, LG, Motorola, Samsung, and anyone else who makes a phone whose unlocked or off contract price is above $500 should make 32GB the standard and work up from there.

This doesn't just stop at our phones, either. The laughably small 8GB included with the Nexus Player and the 16GB base model for tablets needs to go as well, since these are both devices that are way more likely to actually need more local storage for games or offline mode. With 32GB of storage you guarantee all of your "average" users don't run in to storage issues after six months of use, and then either offer 64GB to 128GB or removable storage to those of us who prefer to store a bunch of music locally or want to try and shoot half and hour of video in 4K (that's over 11GB of storage for those keeping score).

Whatever the solution for you this new year, even if it means just avoiding the 16GB version of a new phone and shelling out for the larger storage options

Russell is a Contributing Editor at Android Central. He's a former server admin who has been using Android since the HTC G1, and quite literally wrote the book on Android tablets. You can usually find him chasing the next tech trend, much to the pain of his wallet. Find him on Facebook and Twitter

312 Comments
  • I agree - 32GB should be the minimum storage capacity especially with some devices not having a SD Card option. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Maybe now OEMs will listen since AC has a specific post on this issue. Galaxy Note 4 Galaxy S III
    LG G2
  • Nope. They don't care. There is too much money to be made by axing SD cards and cashing in on cloud storage and data charges and limiting device storage size. Why do you think its happening in the first place!? Posted via the Android Central App
  • Totally agree that they don't care. People are still paying 2x to 3x what a mid to upper-end full notebook computer costs for a 5 inch phone. To have any effect over what features are included in a product, the consumer has to be far, far more willing to exert pressure by NOT buying the product. Way too many people are still blindly throwing their money at the same OEMs year after year.
  • 2x to 3x the price of a high end notebook? How do you figure that?
  • Well, it is not because all the money OEMs are making off of cloud storage. Is anyone making money off of cloud storage? The carriers certainly wouldn't mind more data charges and I am sure they are both fine with the premium higher capacity phones get. You may have something there. I would guess Google doesn't like SD cards because they require licensing from Microsoft. They are also slower and a hassle for most people compared to on device storage. In a few years they will go the way of the CD and the floppy before it. On device storage will become huge and it will no longer be an issue at all.
  • I get that Google doesn't like sd cards and why. What I really dislike and don't understand is their refusal to make more onboard storage options available. I love my Nexus 7 tablet, but the biggest disappointment to me is that a 64 gb version wasn't made. I need extra capacity for those times I want to download movies, magazines, etc. for offline use. It's pretty easy to fill up even 32 gb on tablets these days. Posted via Android Central App
  • Samsung has already started doing this with Note 3, and the Galaxy S6 is suppose to start at 32GB. This really won't change until Apple, changes things, which they are starting to.
  • At least Apple has offered higher onboard capacity options for their devices for quite some time, unlike Google/Nexus. One reason I bought an iPad instead of the Nexus 9 is that I could get 64 or 128 gb of onboard storage. I grant that their sd storage options are overpriced, but at least they're available. The 32 gb HTC phone went from "that's nice" to "must have" for me when they included an sd slot in the m8 version. I am very happy with being able to store my music and pictures on my phone's 32 gb sd card while keeping my apps in native storage. Posted via Android Central App
  • Totally agree Posted via the Android Central App on my Nexus 7 2013 w/ Lollipop !!
  • This x1000. Definitely make 32 the low model in all new phones with options of 64 and 128. Posted via Android Central App
  • After making room on my HTC One M8 and on it's SD card hehe maybe 64 should be the norm for the flagship phones at this stage.. Posted via the Android Central App
  • By next year we'll be saying the same thing about 32gb. The average size of apps, pictures, and videos keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. At least in 2014 a lot of manufacturers brought back SD cards so that helped a lot, but the options for what you can use external storage for are not the same as it was years ago.
    I know people complain about the issues that come with SD cards, but IMO it beats having to use otg USB, and they're especially better the damned cloud that needs internet access and usually caches everything to your internal storage anyways. Posted via Android Central App
  • Completely agree. I love my Z3C but i f*cking hate that Sony put miserable 16GB in it. I play no games on the phone because I can't. The SD card is useless thanks to Google and the games are really heavy. Posted via the Android Central App
  • When Lollipop is out for the Xperias next month the SD card will no longer be useless for 3rd party apps writing to the SD card. On phones with an SD slot, 16GB storage really isn't a huge issue.
  • Thas the thing, app devs can fix it now (getExternalDirs() and get index 1 of the resulting array). The lollipop update won't fix KOTOR which takes up 3gb of internal memory. If devs update it to on lollipop, they could have fixed it in Kitkat
  • Most phones only have 1GB of memory, 2 if you are lucky.
  • Internal Storage is what should have been said, not internal memory. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I shouldn't need to update to Lollipop to have this. Specially since Sony has put back the move to SD card on all their KitKat phones EXCEPT the flagships for some f*cked up reason. Also, "On phones with an SD slot, 16GB storage really isn't a huge issue." Yes. Yes it is. Can't you read? I've just said 16GB isn't enough for me. That I don't play games because I simply can't for lack of storage. As I can't move apps to the SD card, I've to choose: I either have apps or games. I shouldn't have to make a choice like that on a f*cking 500€ flagship phone. Period.
  • Devs can add SDCard support NOW, just are just too lazy to implement it. Look at apps like PocketCasts or Play Music/Movies as an example. All three give the users the ability to move the data to the SDcard. I don't care about the 20MB apks, that's nothing. Every app that stores over 100MB internally SHOULD give the users the option to save their data folder to the sdcard.
  • That's so frustrating. I LOVE the Z3C, and I would have one in my pocket right now if there were a 32 or 64GB option. I understand maxing at out 16GB for budget phones (I mean, if you want to play enough heavy games and take enough pictures to fill up 32GB, a Moto G's probably not for you), but the Z3 is Sony's flagship. There's no good reason for it.
  • Totally agree. I waited for the 2014 Moto X and they launched only a 16GB variant in India.... and I bought it :( . Now I have to manage every tiny amount of space I can Posted via the Android Central App
  • "Now I have to manage every tiny amount of space I can" Aren't you glad Google removed the hassle of file management with their trend away from SD cards? I mean, just think of how much MORE of a hassle it'd be to have to choose between internal or external storage for your files. Constantly removing or deleting files to free up space is WAY easier! /sarcasim
  • Same here. I am still loving my Xperia Z1 but I don't want to worry about which apps should I remove just because I only have a few gigabytes left in my internal storage. Posted via Android Central App
  • While I've been fine with my 16GB Nexus 5, definitely glad Google stepped the Nexus 6 up to 32GB for the base model. Posted via Android Central App
  • Really is most of your data in the cloud? I have the 32GB and my apps alone have only left me with 10-12 GB. Posted via Android Central App
  • Everyone's app usage is different. Not everyone installs huge games, nor nearly every app they've ever downloaded and rarely use. I've found that if I do not use an app at least a few times a month I typically delete it since it's easy to quickly reinstall if I do. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yep the standard should be 32 Posted via the Android Central App
  • Note 3 cheapest model has 32 gig Posted using my note 3 via the AC App
  • The Note 3's only model is 32GB. And, if there was a 64GB model, it definitely wasn't widely available to make any sort of difference.
  • Probably because there's a micro SD slot. Posted via Android Central App
  • I disagree with this. Here in Hong Kong, Samsung massively f.....ed us over by releasing a 16GB version; I was left with around 10-11GBs to play with. After all my important apps were installed, I had around 5-6GBs left. That's not even including the caches and media that WhatsApp takes up!
  • Amazing. Straight off a factory reset, the VZW Galaxy S5 gave you around 8 or 9GBs, which was BS.
  • 32gb and an SD slot have been perfect for me. The phone holds app data and the card holds all my media, however much I choose to have. Posted via the AC App on my LG G3
  • This is exactly how I run all my devices that are fortunate enough to have expandable storage. Posted via AC App from my S4 mini WITH an LED CrackLight ;-)
  • I agree! I currently have 1.44GB's available on my 16GB Galaxy S4, I alsi have a 64GB microsd card in it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Good article. Damnit, you're right. I still want a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact, though. Posted via Samsung Galaxy Alpha
  • You know, I have the 16 GB Moto X, and if you are upgrading from a pitiful 8 GB iPhone... Well, 16 seems like a dream. If I take pictures, I end up uploading the ones I like to my Google drive or some other cloud service. Saves me the trouble if i lose my phone, it breaks, etc. (I'm a photographer) So yeah, I don't think people need so many pictures on their phones.... that space can be used for other things, but who am I to judge? anyway, I can't argue with the desire to have 32GB as the base option, it would be nice.
  • To be fair, iOS takes much less space compared to some OEM Androids. I've seen half of 16 being taken up by certain manufacts.
    But yeah, tech's advancing. I'm all for the 32, at least for phones without SD expansion.
  • True. iPhone models for the past 2 years usually give you 12-13GB usable space versus Android phones that give you 8-12GB usable space (varies according to how thick the OEM skin is, especially Asian OEMs). Posted via Android Central App
  • Gotta love unnecessary bloatware and skins! Killing performance and space. Nexus 6 FTW Posted via the Android Central App
  • Until you download a shit ton of apps to get the same features. "I'm da Blur boys!" - Me with 1200 ping. Yes. My Internet got worse.
  • Nope. Can definitely live without gimmicky apps. Some people like cheesy crappy running apps, some don't. I like Android like Google intends it too be. Posted via the Android Central App
  • This was the first thing that jumped out at me when the latest iPhones were introduced; in 2014/2015, 16GB is a joke. But in addition to 16GB being cheaper for the manufacturers, I'm sure it's also done because they're afraid that making 32 the starting point will cannibalize sales for the more expensive 64GB devices. It's always about money.
  • My coworker is actually ditching her iPhone 5s to move to the G3,and one of her cheap complaints was the pitiful 16GB of storage. She also said the Apple kept pressuring her to purchase more iCloud storage to make up for it. She was shocked when I told her how much default storage Google gives you and then that I get 100Gb for only $1.99 per month.
  • I went with the 64 gb iPhone 6 and haven't bee happier. The extra storage is awesome. I have the M8 which came with 32 gb and a 32 gb sd card installed. But with the way Android handles memory my memory card isn't nearly as helpful. Once that is resolved then as long as Android devices come with SD slots memory isn't an issue
  • It isn't about 1s and 0s. It's about $s and 0s.
  • 16Gb is still more than enough for me.
  • Same here. When I was buying my Nexus 5 I had a tough time deciding if I wanted 16gb or 32gb. I saved $50 and went with 16 and I'm glad I did. The only thing that takes up a lot of space for me is photos, but I make it a habit to unload all my photos once a month. Posted via Android Central App
  • Yeah me too, on my Moto G, I use less than 3GB's Posted via the Android Central App
  • Same here! Heck, I never even filled up the 8GB storage when I had the HTC Thunderbolt. Then again I'm not a data hoarder. For me less is more. I like to keep things lean and mean. :D
  • Me too. I have the Moto X 2014 and the 2013 model before that. When buying these phones I struggled with 32 or 16 and decided on 16Gb both times. I am happy I saved my money because I mainly stream everything. Also, the music and photos I don't stream are on a flash drive I connect with an OTG cable. To assist in this. All the photos and videos I take get automatically uploaded to Google Drive. I pay for 1tb and got 1exra terabyte free for 2 years with my Chromebook. Posted via the Android Central App on the 2nd Gen. Moto X
  • Until drive goes down, which it seems to be doing quite alot, your fine. Not so much after that though Posted by my soon to be retired Note 3
  • Ah but you're missing the greater point, article author. 16GB is a business decision. It politely shoves the consumer towards purchasing additional memory via the clouds. Posted via Android Central App
  • Not likey. Cloud storage is very cheap and some cases it's free. I have 75 gigs for free with Dropbox. Posted via HTC One on Sprint
  • Or just going to the cloud in general and giving Google more information about yourself that was offline external memory before Posted via the Android Central App
  • Dropbox and Google both have very reasonably priced cloud storage. I really doubt that facing consumers to purchase cloud storage and send their money to other companies is the way to go. Posted on my Galaxy S5
  • They do mention that. The problem is apps don't like being installed in the cloud.
  • Not just purchasing more cloud space, also paying your carrier to move all your data back and forth.
  • There is a more important business decision that leads to 16gb storage, it is that the carriers want to advertise cheaper contracts with that new free phone and skimping on storage is one way to do that. In the UK all the carriers skipped the 3gb/32gb version of the G3 entirely and only offered the 2gb/16gb model.
  • Amen! And go RAVENS! Posted via AC app by way of my right thumb.
  • Amen to the Go Ravens! Posted via Android Central App
  • Indeed, having SD card ability changes everything for me.
    So much so, I hardly touch my Nexus5 anymore since getting a tablet with SD slot.
    Its not just size or battery life, its that my stuff is on hand an instant versus cloud delay.
  • It's been many years since I had a phone with under 32gb. I couldn't make it with any less. Posted via the Android Central App
  • 32 gb is fine for me right now, but I can easily see the time that it won't be. Posted from my Nexus 7 2013 via Android Central App
  • I can handle having 32GB on my Nexus 7 2013. I can manage that. But all my Samsung device have 64 cards in them, as well as my Dell Venue 8 Pro. Although the Nexus is the better performer all around by far, when it comes to where I store most of my movies and other media, I'm using a device with SD card support. But the Nexus is where my streaming and gaming lives supreme. Posted via AC App from my S4 mini WITH an LED CrackLight ;-)
  • The problem becomes when OEM's and carriers only offer the 16gb model. I know a lot of us on this site use prepaid service, but a lot of folks still get their phones with a contract and subsidy, and 16gb is the only option in that case. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Agreed. In UK I would say 90% of people buy their phone on a monthly contract with carrier subsidies. It's pretty much standard. And very rarely is an option for 32 or 64GB offered. So most people end up with 16GB. Posted via Android Central App
  • I wanted this phone to last two years when I bought it - so I went for the 64GB option. Can't say I regret my decision in the slightest. Posted via the AC App on my Nexus 6
  • This is the main reason that I did not consider at Galaxy S5. They are all 16GB, at least in the US. And the external card slot is meaningless since it was crippled with Kit Kat.
  • Exactly why I glanced over the S4 and gave away my S5, and kept my 32 GB S3 chugging along for 2.5 years almost!
  • "You do know Samsung made 32 and 64GB versions of the S4 and S5 right?" That's kind of a moot point, considering that those version were not widely available. Not denying that they exist, but they were almost impossible to get. So, yeah, his/her comment still stands.
  • Root + SD card fix resolved that issue for me. And even if you don't root, having an SD card for media comes in handy.
  • Same for me which is why I swapped my 16gb gs4 for a 32gb gs4 as soon as one became available on att. I have to wonder if the lack of 32 and 64gb models is a part of why gs5 sales were disappointing for Samsung. I certainly wouldn't consider a 16gb version.
  • Better idea: make the damned phone with enough storage for the OS and a margin for future updates, then let me put 100% of everything else on a microSD card. Anyone tempted to reply with something about the speed of microSD cards, please sit down and stop saying dumb things.
  • That's actually not a horrible idea... it would certainly make swapping phones easier. Actually, I can think of many reasons why that would be a great idea. But the SD card is and always has been a 2nd class citizen on phones.
  • SD cards being 2nd class is Google's intention... Androids Achilles heel imo. It's not that it couldn't have been programmed to use it... It's just ridiculous. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Installing apps out of the box on SD cards would be great. Posted via AC App from my S4 mini WITH an LED CrackLight ;-)
  • I completely disagree with this article. Last time I checked Android was still about choice. I have a Droid Turbo. For me the phone is pretty much perfect. The only problem is 32GB was the minimum storage. I wish there would have been a version that was cheaper that had 16GB of storage. That's all I need, but I was forced to pay for more than I'll ever use.
    There should always be an option for those who need more storage, but there should also be an option for those who use less. If I'm paying more than $500 for a flagship, I should be able to get a little bit of a discount if I want less storage. I shouldn't have to settle for a lesser phone just because I need less local storage than others. There should always be options.
  • You wouldn't get much of a discount though; flash memory bought in bulk is really cheap. A 32 GB phone only costs maybe $5 more to make than a 16 GB version. Posted via Android Central App
  • Odds are if a 16gb version existed, it would cost as much as the 32gb you paid for and the option to increase storage would be more expensive. These OEMs don't every really cut us a break when it comes to money. Posted via the Android Central App
  • While I understand your sentiment I am the exact opposite. I don't particularly fill my phone up with media but I want the option to do so. So in my case the 50.00 extra to get the 64 GB Turbo was worth it. I also think that SD cards should be totally functional in all phones. As far as cloud storage, I have 165 GB from Google for free, 25 GB free from Verizon and another 50 GB from various other companies. I already see the writing on the wall from all of them. After you get all your stuff up there the free offer is going to stop and it will cost you. I agree it's all about the money. Get everyone hooked on the cloud that BAM right up the Wazoo!
  • Flagships are just that though, Flagships. If you want less there's many many other companies out there. Companies try to cater to the most customers they think they'll attract, if they feel most customers want more memory, then they will cater to that. Besides based on current OS sizes many people will then biotch about how the OS takes up most/half of the 16 GB space.....
  • A SD Card and a removable battery are a must for me when buying any device. I also agree that 32 GB should be the standard for every high end device Posted Via AT&T Note 3
  • I agree. After owning iPhones for many years and switching 32g is minimum removable battery is a must. Try using 3rd party apps for sd card control. Comes in handy. Posted via Android Central App from Samsung Note 3 or Surface Pro 3
  • A removable battery so removes the lack of battery life from a device. Get a spare and pop it in for a full charge.
  • My biggest reason for going with Samsung year after year (except with the pointless S4 and I gave the crappy 16GB S5 away), It just works and it keeps working. I just retired my 32GB S3 and it has served me quite well, never a single complaint. Now I have a Note 4 (OMG my hand had to adjust), wireless charging and spare batteries with microSD storage (very important to me). I also love the Gear S with it's Battery Cradle thing, pain in the ass to snap on, but I so love having an extra days charge in my pocket, for those times I sleep with the watch on (almost every day).
  • I will be picking up my Note 4 in February :) Posted Via AT&T Note 3
  • 16GB is not much, but for most consumers it's still livable. Most people just like to store their photos and videos on their SD card if they had that choice. However, as this article points out it's a security risk because we're forced to use the severely ancient FAT file system as that's the only universally adopted file system that isn't incumbered by patents and license fees. We need to make a secure file system that is universally adopted that has none of these restrictions, that'll fix the expendable storage issue. However, it won't fix the performance issue though since SD cards are magnitudes slower than internal storage, that's why they're so cheap...
  • My mom is probably the least techy person in the world and even she's managed to fill up a 16gb iPhone with pictures. Sure, she could back them up somewhere else, but she's not exactly up to learning about things like that and I'm sure that many people like her are out there. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Same case for my mother. So I got her a S5 with a 64gig SD card to replace her iPhone 4S 16GB. She is more than happy. Plus dropping AT&T with shared 10GB/month for unlimited Sprint LTE has her set. Posted via AC App from my S4 mini WITH an LED CrackLight ;-)
  • There're a good few file systems that are widely used. Android typically has Ext3 and/or Ext4 somewhere. The bigger issue, rather than licencing costs, is the ability to take those cards out of your phone and plug them into your PC. Until Microsoft makes it easier to mount them in Windows (and people upgrade to that version), we'll probably be stuck with FAT.
  • Fun fact: The original iPhone released it's 16GB model back in February 2008. That is 7 years and we still haven't gone much further in phone storage.. Pretty pathetic don't you think? If you asked me 7 years ago where smartphones would be in 2015. I would've thought most phones would have at least 128GB of storage, if not more.
  • I'm dual wielding a Note 4 and an iPhone 6 with 128gbs of storage. That amount of fixed storage is insane to me and I love it. I haven't had to worry about downloading anything on that phone yet and I don't feel like I'll ever need to. Other manufacturers should jump on that storage option as soon as possible (even though I know they won't). Posted via the Android Central App
  • Apple is pretty pathetic, enough said.
  • 128gbs of onboard storage is more than any popular OEM is offering, so it definitely isn't "pathetic." And, yeah, you pay for it, but it's no more than the top storage option for an iPhone has ever been. Posted via the Android Central App
  • They also charge a premium price for it.
  • yes you pay for it ($200 over the base 16gb model), but what do you think samsung or another OEM would charge for a $128 GB model? $100-$150 over the base? By comparison it is that bad.
  • The article doesn't touch on a couple of relevant points:
    - at ~$1/GB for memory there's no reason manufacturers (or the carriers; whoever the blame really lays with) should be ripping off the consumer when it comes to purchasing upgraded memory configurations
    - you can provide all of the storage capacity that you want on an SD card, but if the OS doesn't allow you to store/move apps to SD then you're still highly limited in what you can put on your device. I have several games installed that add up to about 9 GB - try putting that on a measly 16GB device, even with SD card support. As more and more console quality games come to Android this problem will only get exacerbated. Posted via Android Central App
  • Well said, 16 is too small. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I did a way with 16gb already Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not all of us need more than 16gb. I bought an 8gb Moto G last year and was perfectly happy with it. I ended up RMA'ing that one because of a headphone jack defect, and they upgradee me to the 16gb one for free. I never have less than half my storage space available though. That being said, I only have 2 small games, a small amount of music, and one audiobook on my phone at any given time.
  • Agreed. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Your the exception not the rule. Posted via the Android Central App
  • If I had to copy all of my music, then I'd need a 128 gb phone! But with Google Music, I don't save much music on my phone. That said, I have always used 16gb phones. I'm not a heavy gamer, but I understand that gamers would want 32/64 gb devices. Music can be stored on the SD card. Pictures are backed up via BTSync and I move them into other folders when I see fit and that frees the internal storage. But still, 6-8 gb of pictures is A LOT! I have never filled my 16gb device. Now though I have a 32gb device (LG g3 with 3GB ram, which is the reason why I bought this one. Ram is more important for me). But I have more than 20gb free internally! My mom has 8GB and she still has A LOT of room! She only uses it to message and share pictures. 16GB is fine. But ALL companies should make 32/64gb devices readily available at launch for those that really do need it! Hey, if you want to pay for it, I don't see why they won't offer it!
  • Seriously. Flash memory is so cheap these days. In 2015, phones should come with 64GB of storage by default. Posted via the Android Central App
  • After owning the iPhone 6+, one plus one and nexus 6 64 GB models, I'm not settling to anything less than 64 GB in the future. Posted via the Android Central App
  • +1 x 1,000 Posted via Android Central App
  • I am squeezing by with an 8GB Moto G...VZW doesn't offer a 16GB version. I have to shuffle big apps off the phone on occasion (and bring them back later), but USB OTG handles media storage needs just fine.
  • Yeah, I have the 16GB Moto G, and USB OTG has been a lifesaver. Using the Meenova Micro SD card reader, I'm able to bring all of my music with me. Still, having the slot on the phone or even more storage available would have been great. But, considering that it's a budget phone, I'm not complaining.
  • 16gb may not be enough storage for you, but it is more than enough for me. Not everyone takes 10gb of pictures on a smartphone. I am in favor for manufacturers to keep the low the storage as there is almost always an option to upgrade if you need it. Options and choices are a good thing! Since money no longer grows on my trees, I like the option to save cash, especially when it comes to something I will never utilize.
  • Sure but if when you were buying your phone and the options were 32 and 64 for the prices that we pay 16 and 32 for now you would have 32, it wouldn't change your world, and everyone would win. The cost to the phone makers is basically nothing to go from 16 to 32 as the base. They do it entirely so they get a higher profit margin on the higher capacity devices, which is not right. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I think his argument is that increasing storage size would automatically increase the price of the phone, since manufacturers would sell the phone on the angle that it has more storage. While increasing the storage space wouldn't cost much, keeping it at 16 may keep costs lower. Posted on my Galaxy S5
  • Exactly! If the manufacturer did not increase the cost, i would take the upgraded storage. Call my cynical, but i doubt the price would remain the same. Manufactures are not in the market to give away free upgrades.
  • I think that's what the argument of this article really is that for the same price of say a 16gb phone from a few years ago we should in 2015 get 32gb for that same price. There use to be a time when 4gb was a norm, then 8gb and then 16gb and the price didn't change. I think it's time we move on to 32gb as a Base model for the high end phones atleast. Any phone costing £500 should get more than 16gb. I think low end phones should be 8gb,mid 16gb and high end 32gb. Posted via the Android Central App
  • That might have worked 5 years ago but camera technology along with how people use their phones had changed. 32gbs is the absolute minimum. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I'm sorry. Did you really just say OEM don't put Micro sd slots anymore? Except Nexus line and Moto, everyone else has a micro sd slot on their phones... Posted via the Android Central App
  • Rocking my Samsung Galaxy S3 with 16gb of only internal storage, haven't even bothered with adding an SD card. I have 39 games installed, 1 movie (Cinderella for my 2 year old), 2 20 minute TV episodes downloaded, 48 songs and have 2.44GB left of space, how much space do you guys need? I say 8gb should be the minimum for cheap devices, but most everything should start at 16GB. Looking to upgrade my wife and I and 2 of our kids, budget is very tight, SD cards can supplement lack of internal.
  • Seems to me those games are not console quality type games. Plus 48vsongs is probably not even 10% of what most users have and only 1 movie? Also seems kind of low. No mention of video you may have taken. With a little one, do you not frequently take short video? I think a typical user would need at least 32. Other, less data saving types like yourself can get away with less obviously but I think this story was about flagship devices I believe. Lower end phones, I can see using less storage. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I could offload a bunch of games that I put on the solely for use in the car on our 3 day road trip. Some of the games are up there in quality, absolutely no ROMs though, if that's what you're thinking. Here's the list: • Carcassonne • Castle of Illusion • Catan • Dragon Story • Five Nights at Freddy's 1&2 • Flappy Bird • Kingdom Rush Frontiers and Origins • Goat Simulator • Ittle Dew • Leo's Fortune • Life Quest 2 • Minecraft • Monopoly • Monkey Preschool Lunchbox • Monument Valley • Neuroshima Hex • Papa's Burgeria & Freezeria • Plague Inc • Rayman Jungle Run • Skulls of the Shogun • Snuggle Truck • Secret of Mana • Sorcery! • Summoners War • Super Crossfire • Surgeon Simulator • Symphony of the Origin • Simpsons Tapped Out • Terraria • The Deer God • The Game of Life • Ticket to Ride • Dr Panda and Toto's Treehouse • Trivia Crack • Unpossible • VVVVVV I had other movies on there but they weren't being watched so I removed them, had Frozen, Elf, Wreck It Ralph and Incredibles. Will probably add another 100 songs but I don't need that much offline content since I had Pandora. Any photos / video I take, I delete the blurry ones and upload the rest to my dropbox. Don't need to keep content on your device that doesn't get used. I'll probably remove 30+ games here shortly. 32gb of data seems excessive for internal, If you need that much content, keep it on a SD card...
  • It's awesome that a low amount of storage works for you. However, for me, having my music available offline is a necessity. Whenever I'm deployed, internet access is a rarity. And, I'm sure, others that don't have huge data plans or have regular internet access feel the same way.
  • For that long car trip I did want to take my whole movie collection with me (I been working on backing them up to mp4), ran out of space personally but this looks pretty awesome: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Wireless-Portable-Built--STCV2000100/dp/B0... 2TB drive that acts like a wi-fi hotspot. That way you can take all your music, video and photos with you. That's the way I plan to go. But to keep on topic, for a phone, 16GB is plenty to have the things you USE constantly close at hand. For all other rarely accessed content, other options are out there. I see the case for over 16GB but not everyone has the budget for it. Flagship devices, I agree, 32GB should be the base, but for all other non-flagship devices, I say give us options.
  • I have that Seagate drive: one of the best purchases I've ever made.
  • But here's the thing. It literally costs Samsung less than $5 to go from 16 to 32. Why would you say that lower storage is acceptable when the reality is you should be getting more storage for the same price. Sure you're not using the storage but the $199 on contract phone should be 32GB now and not 16. There is zero reason aside from marketing. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not only should 32GB be the minimum for built-in storage but memory card compatibility should be enforced. 32GB isn't a whole lot by the time someone takes pictures, downloads music, and installs some games. Games are now starting to take up 200MB, an album will take up about 150MB, and pictures are pushing 12MB each. That doesn't really leave space for much. Moving pictures and music over to a 64GB/128GB card frees up a lot of internal storage. I would love to buy a Motorola or Nexus smartphone but, after owning an iPhone 5 for two years, I refuse to buy a phone without expandable storage.
  • Completely agree. It is one reason I avoid Samsung products. Too many of them just have 16GB of onboard storage.
  • They all also have expandable storage Posted via the Android Central App
  • Which is mostly useless. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Disagree. App storage doesn't take much storage, but all my music is stored in the SD card, which is awesome since I have 40 gb of music. Posted on my Galaxy S5
  • How is expandable storage useless? It may not be the greatest for apps, but being able to offload pictures, music, and videos to an SD card is great for saving space on the phone, especially if you use the phone for games. Stop attacking something just because you don't approve of it.
  • So it's "mostly useless" having a phone that is capable of storing 6032 songs, 1200+ 16MP photos, 40+ apps, 3 1080p movies, and still have a 40GB headroom? Your definition of useless is far, far, far from the actual definition of useless.
  • "we need more space to fill with more useless junk from our wasteful lives goddammit!!!!!" (all I see from all you whiners in here)
  • Way to add nothing to the conversation.
  • Well, your comment certainly seems to be wasting space. I don't understand how someone's music, photos, apps, and even videos would count as "useless junk" from a "wasteful life." You might hate your pictures and music but I enjoy mine and my life. So I need more storage for that, one of the meany reasons why I purchased a phone that can work with a 128GB microSDXC card. No need to get mad just because you don't like your life and don't have enough content to fill a 32GB phone.
  • I have no problem with this proposal, but if your problem is 4K video on a phone, I'd suggest you're requirements are a bit silly. Or at least, you're not a typical user, so while you need at least 32 GB, I don't. My 16G Nexus 4 still has plenty of space left.
  • I see no need for 16GB. I have never even passed 8GB let alone 16. I think we just need more people that just know how to manage storage instead of put 1000000000 songs on their phone when they listen to maybe a few albums usually. Why not upload that all up to Google Music and stream it? Sure not everyone can afford a 2 or 3GB plan, but those that can could easily do that. If you do a lot of video thats somethign else, but I have never seen anyone hit 16GB that either:
    1) Didnt do a lot of video
    2) wasnt just having stuff on the phone just t have it even though it would NEVER be used.
  • LOL, why bother having to "manage" storage and stream data when it costs the manufacturer so little to put 32g of storage in a phone. That's the point if this article. You shouldn't have to do what you're saying when it's such a cheap alternative should be a standard. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Why? Because the instant you run out from the junk you downloaded you'll complain 32 isn't enough and that you want 64. Posted on my Galaxy S5
  • So are you saying you would rather pay £500 for 16gb instead of paying £500 for 32gb Posted via the Android Central App
  • How is this even a discussion and why would you assume someone's data is junk? 32gbs is an absolute minimum. This isn't 1985. Posted via the Android Central App
  • You have a point there. I have a crapload of free music from Google Play that I never listen to but is always downloaded onto any new device I get. Posted via the finally lag-free LG G3 on CM12
  • But it has nothing to do with that. The simple fact is that it costs moto/Samsung/whoever less than $5 more to build a device with 32 or 64 GB of storage. The $199 on contract phone should not have 16GB of storage on it anymore. They should be at least 32 because it does not cost anything more to include it. And you can't say that for the same price you wouldn't want more storage even if you personally might not use it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Seriously? Why don't you be more responsible and manage your own storage. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I've been saying this for the past two years. My Oneplus One has 64 GB and my iPad Air (jailbroken of course) only has 16GB. It's not that it's just awful with 16 gigs, rather, it destroys the consumption experience. Decent games are a gig or two and HD movies are usually over a gig. It adds up quickly, especially seeing how the OS and pre-installed apps and services take up anywhere between 3-6 gigs on mobile devices. I understand it's cheaper, but once 32GB becomes the true standard, OEMs will eventually spend less (see how mid range devices are all rocking quad core chipsets when it was unheard of two years ago). Posted via the Android Central App
  • My take on this:
    1) Most manufacturers won't stop offering 16GB on midrange and flagship devices until either, Apple stops or we boycott those 16GB models completely. Apple did this simply to price gouge us into purchasing the 64GB model.
    2) When it comes to microSD slot, Microsoft has gotten it right with Windows Phone 8.1. They have given it the ability to install full apps and data to the external storage, a class 10 card would suffice. I'd be a happy camper if android did that properly, even with usb otg
  • Lollipop should fix the issue of SD cards. Posted on my Galaxy S5
  • Android needs the ability to format the sdcard to its own native file format, instead of Microsoft's fat32. If they offered that the sdcard card could work exactly like the internal storage with all the same file permissions. Give the user the choice between Windows compatibility, and full functionality. To take things further there is no reason Google couldn't offer a Windows utility that could read a native Linux formated card. The only reason any of this isn't offered is because the manufacturers make more money the way things are done now. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Pretty sure it's to do with licences . Posted via Android Central App
  • Considering that Linux based systems use open source licensing I'd say you are wrong. Fat32 is used so that the end user can stick the sdcard in his Windows PC, and read it. You can't do that if say the card is formatted in ext4. What you would get with ext4 is a card fully compatible with Android in every way. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Give the end user a choice in formatting. That is all I'm saying. Posted via the Android Central App
  • His suggestion means that the SD card would work as an extension to the internal memory and you wouldn't need to move the apps to the external SD card manually. This also means that you would be able to use that space for all apps... Not only with support for moving to SD card. This would save users from the need to select destination folder for media and moving apps to SD.
    He just proposes this as an option for the user, in addition to the current restricted model.
    I can understand that some people prefer the limitations in order to be able to use the card on Windows without spending 2 minutes installing a driver. But what I don't understand is why would anybody oppose to give users the option. After all, this is Android, not iOS.
  • Just bought the mi3 with only 16gb. I could have bought the 64gb, but I don't intend to play games nor store crap load of HD movies since I already have my 32gb nexus 7 for games and media consumption. I used the savings to buy more stuff like a case, earphones instead. Priority and choices are always welcome in android. Posted via Android Central App
  • Except that more memory really comes in handy to those who have kids and use their phones for not media consumption but creation, to record video, take and store high resolution photos (One pic of mine can be 4-8 MB (times that by a few thousand and that builds up fast!). I personally used about 10 Gigs on just Christmas day taking pics and recording in HD (OF COURSE!). 16GB would have failed me miserably. In this case I totally do agree that choices are great!
  • Storage, not memory. Although 2GB of memory should now be considered the bare minimum, with 3GB becoming more common.
  • That and say no to locked bootloaders.
  • or get off yer butt and learn about usb on the go, or wifi/usb etc dump drives.
  • You guys just don't get it. Why have to do that when a cheap alternative is so easy to put in place? The manufacturer needs to get off its lazy butt and put in more storage. I'm doing my part to motivate them to do that. I don't buy low storage devices. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Apps cannot easily be installed to USB OTG or dump drives.
  • Why should I have to have dangling wires from my phone when I can simply have more memory, SD card and a replaceable battery? Everyone pushing things like USB-OTG and portable battery packs seems like a solution to a problem that should have never been a problem...It's like having a car with a 1 gallon tank and being forced to carry little gallon tanks everywhere you go.... No thanks I'll pass.
  • That's just silly. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's funny, but I find the 8GB of storage (5.9GB available to the user) of the Nexus Player to be adequate. This coming from a guy who refuses to own a phone with less than 64GB. I have a few streaming apps, a few Android games, Kodi (XBMC), a few emulators with numerous ROMs installed, and I still have 3.1GB remaining. The limitations are that if I have any of the larger console ports installed (Wolf Among Us, Oddworld), or any CD-ROM based emulators (Sega CD, Sony PS1), that storage becomes completely obliterated. For a $99 streaming device meant to compete against Roku, Apple TV, and Fire TV, 8GB is fine. I have no problem with that going off the intended market. What ticks me off is that Razer is only allowing 16GB of storage in their GAMING oriented Android TV box. And I'm still ok with that, so long as it's the base configuration. So if that's $99, why not a 64GB model for $149? Throw us a bone! I'm getting the Razer model and moving that to the living room, and moving the NP upstairs, but like you said, 16GB isn't enough for the flagship model. That said, 8/16GB configurations still have their place. Grandma will always want something basic.
  • I am fine with 16GB because I have everything in the cloud, though I do welcome more usable space.
  • Returned that beautiful thin new Dell tablet to Best Buy for this very reason. 9.5 gigs on first boot? BYE! Posted via the Android Central App
  • Saw that, I wanted one too, until I saw it only came with 16GB. Really Dell.
  • I don't agree at all.16 GB is fine for some people. Not everyone is a tech geek like us. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Some people, yes. But as the number of megapixels and the resolution of videos are going up, those people will be fewer. My mother-in-law is far from a tech-geek, but she complains about running out of space all the time on her 16GB iPhone due to so many pictures and videos. If anything, it's worse for her as a non-tech-geek because she had a hard time understanding how to offload those files into the cloud. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly. I recently had to help my sister update iOS on her 16Gb iPhone because she couldn't do it OTA... not enough storage space for an OTA update with all the pics, music, etc. she has on her phone.
  • Had the exact same thing happen to my father recently. Ran out of space just from taking photos. You don't need to be tech savvy to use up 16GB of space Posted via Android Central App
  • I don't know why you got downvoted, I completely agree. I am a techie, and have a 16GB Nexus 4, and I am completely fine. Never have I ever worried about running out of space.
  • I wish my n5 had more than 16gb. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I love my One M8. 32GB of built-in storage for apps, caches, etc. 32GB microSD card for media. And if that ever turns out to not be enough, getting a larger-capacity card is always an option.
    But I agree. 16GB needs to go away. 32GB should be the absolute bare minimum in a flagship phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I agree. A phone with only 16 GB of storage space is ridiculously small; however, I am tired of phone companies telling us that a phone has 16 GB of storage space when the actual amount of space is much smaller. Maybe they should tell us the actual amount of usable space on the storage instead of the overall amount.
  • I agree with this. They put in small print that "actual storage capacity available to the user may vary", but they can be s little more clear about it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • 64Gigs for me. No problem Posted via...The One
  • Especially when a large part of my music library is in flac format Posted via OnePlus One
  • Unfortauntely, Google Nexus devices including the new Nexus 6 & 9 still come in 16GB and 32GB. 16 is too small. Android 5.0 takes up more space then 4.4.4 did. Since upgrading my 2013 Nexus 7 16GB to Android 5.0.1, I have only 4 GB of free space left. I did some cleaning and remove some apps to get back up to 6 GB. I store all my data in the cloud. I wish Google would do the same as Apple and come out with 32GB, 64GB and 128GB models of the Nexus 9 tablet.
  • The Nexus 6 comes in 32GB and 64GB options. There is no 16GB Nexus 6. Also, Apple doesn't have 32/64/128GB options for their models. They are 16/64/128 (baseline model is still 16GB).
  • This should've been the standard two years ago. Posted via Android Central App
  • Blame Apple
  • Absolutely. Any oem coming out with a 16 gig base model can suck it Posted via the Android Central App
  • Considering how cheap storage is, there is no excuse for 16GB and even less an excuse to charge $100 more to move to 32GB.
  • How is it your Moto X has 26GB free? Mine only has 24.79.
  • Available storage varies by carrier, with the Pure Edition having the most available out of the box.
  • I'm sportin' the PE.
  • Choosing Samsung as my current Android flavour of a smartphone was primarily because of a removable battery and expandable storage. Posted via AC App from my S4 mini WITH an LED CrackLight ;-)
  • My last three have all been 32..i won't even look at a 16. Posted via Android Central App
  • >"Just like 8GB two years ago, it's time to do away with the 16GB standard" We should have been done with it over a year ago. At this point, 32GB should be the *bare minimum* with 64GB being more standard and 128GB as an option.
  • I have an HTC One M7 with 32GB. And my biggest gripe with that is that it makes backing up and trying new roms a pain in the ass because each of my backups takes like 3-5GB. Plus, I literally live in the middle of the woods, so my music must be downloaded onto the device or I don't have it at all. 64GB should be standard, none of this 32GB BS. I can get a 64GB flash at Wal-Mart for like $20, and while the internal storage of smartphones are faster than your standard flash drive, we're certainly not looking at excessive premium $300 SSD speeds.
  • I got the Incredible specifically for the microSD card. I paid extra for the 32 GB Moto X last year. This year I went to the Moto X 2014 and got 16GB. I never filled those microSD cards. I had more than 16 GB left on my old phone. I stream content and all my self-produced content autosyncs to the cloud. More than 16 GB might be important if you shoot video or you can't stand to delete the 75% of your photos that are mediocre and don't trust the cloud. Otherwise, 16 GB is just fine.
  • Agreed. And please have more than just one choice for storage options (Samsung, HTC AND LG). 32, 64, 128. I think if you're going to push these cameras as being so great at recording video and give people these high resolution screens, more storage out of the box is a must, at least optionally.
  • I LOVE my E-P5. Good to see someone else rocking an Oly.
    I have a Moto G LTE. I wouldn't have bought it if it didn't have SD card capability.
  • I want to see 64gb as the standard. Its a marginal cost difference to the manufacturer that would really raise the value proposition of their devices.
  • 16GB was enough for me until I started taking videos. Now my next phone will be 64GB. I am not interested in a phone with an SD card.
  • Because like everything, there are always differing views. I don't want SD cards in my devices because I don't want to have to have a separate partition to manage. You can't load apps onto SD cards so without that ability their use is limited at best. Sure you can store media on them but again that's just another thing to manage. There are a lot of people who just want a device with one single large pool of storage that they don't have to worry about. And for the people who want devices with SD cards in them, I'm glad there are options for you, and I'm glad that lollipop restored some of that functionality back. You have something that works well for you. But not everyone wants that, some of us just want a phone that has enough storage out of the box.
  • Because I don't want to have to manage a separate partition. I want to buy a phone that has all the internal storage I need right off the bat.
  • What is there to manage? You simply TOUCH the screen button to save your photos and vids to the SD card one time, and never look back again.
  • This. I keep my 32Gb GS4 storage for apps and put my data on my 64Gb micro SD card. I have no problem working with my SD card with KK 4.4.4/NJ4. I use ES File Explorer to copy my files over my WLAN to my main PC without issue.
  • Agree, funnily I was saying the same thing yesterday on g+. I don't think any phone costing £500+ should come with anything less than 32gb. imo it should really be 64gb considering how cheap storage is and how long we have been stuck on 16gb which to being with isn't even the actual usable storage. With apps getting bigger, images and videos getting bigger, I don't get how oems pushing 20mp cameras, 4k video, console quality gaming even think 16gb is anywhere enough storage for all those things and to last for 2 years. And tablets lol googles another joke, they put more storage on there phone than there tablet where you are likely to install more higher quality games, watch more media etc etc. I hate to say it but as long apple keep on making 16gb storage devices all other oems will too. Once apple ditches 16gb I bet all other oems will then make 32gb the Base model. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Money that's the big answer they want you to use cloud storage.. After a certain range cloud storage becomes a pay service.. Then there's the carriers they live all that data going over their networks more money for them.. Then OEMS get the 16 gig chip pennies on the dollar more money for them see its a win win win for them.. They simply view us as sheeple cash cows
  • Google do seem to have atleast given the ability to write to sd card again with lollipop which is great. Posted via Android Central App using galaxy s4
  • Wow, some different memories there. I said that the N4 sucked and one of the big reasons was the internal storage. Everyone was saying it was OK and no big deal... Three months later people were out of space. Two years later writers are writing revisionist history. Posted by my soon to be retired Note 3
  • It was a little different with the N4. A phone with a relatively small screen and a 720p display was a lot less likely to be used for heavy gaming and movie watching. I never wanted for space on my 16GB N4 because I didn't use it for much storage-intensive stuff. I load my N5 up with videos occasionally and I have larger games on it than I would've put in the N4, so 16GB would be horrible now. That goes double for today's flagships. Sent from my Nexus 5, behind six proxies
  • We are not talking the 16gb, it was 8gb. Google had the chance to push the envelope and move storage ahead. They chose to retard progress instead Posted by my soon to be retired Note 3
  • 32 needs to. Be the standard
  • Software, the OS keeps taking more and more memory. I want a very minimum of 64GB's in a 2015 version of the Moto X Pure Edition, I highly doubt a 128GB version will be offered, but if it is I will get that. I really want a device I can keep for a long, long time. Posted via the Android Central App
  • A flagship phone should be 128 gigs of on board storage and double the amount of ram as a mid tier device and be like the Saygus v2 for external storage and allow you to boot from the SD card. They are trying to do it right by having a rooted unlocked version available. This is Android not a sandboxed IOS WP or BB.... Posted via Android Central App on my HTC M8
  • Im a gamer so even 32gb is a no go, but hate to tell ya, 16gb will be around until 2016, for only one reason... manufacturers and hardware companies like the option to be there for the cheapskates. The penny pinchers of the world will keep that memory option around because if they can get a phone for $75 to 50 less, they will opt for it instead, regardless of usage. I constantly overhear customers, oh no, ill never use 16gb, even if you point out they wont even get that because of OS overhead. Makes me SMDH everytime.
  • I agree 32 GB should become the standard. When I got a new tablet recently, I opted to get the 32 GB one this time because on my last tablet with 16gb I kept running low on space and I believe it was one of the reasons it ran slow. My phone isn't so bad because I have 64 GB of expanded storage. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I have 32 GB on my nexus 7 and feel like it's too much for what I use it for. I have 16 GB on my phone, with pictures, video, music, etc it fills up much faster, have to back up more things to the cloud which is fine with me cause I have unlimited data, but I wish I could keep more on my phones.
  • This is a big reason why I chose the G3. 32 gb internal with expandable storage was perfect this time coming for 16 gb internal in my note 2. In 2 years I better be able to get 64 gb internal for the price they charge for these phones. Posted via the Android Central App
  • he 32GB model is not available in the UK Posted via the Android Central App
  • That sucks. Why do they do that? The UK model only has 2GB of ram too doesn't it? I don't get why they change the specs regionally like that. Posted via the Android Central App
  • 64GB OnePlus One. Done. Posted via the Android Central App
  • A lot of people are failing to do some simple math here. Even those who say it takes them 2 years to fill up a 16GB device and by then it is time to buy a new 16GB phone anyway. Samsung still makes 8 and 16GB devices because they want you to buy the $200 phone today (which is actually a $600 phone) and then buy another $200 phone in 2 years instead of you spending even say $250 for a phone that you'll get 3 years of use out of because of adequate storage. so in a 24 month period Samsung can sell you $400 worth of phones (which to them is $1200 worth of phones) or they can sell you a single phone worth $250 to you, or $600ish to them. Either way in that 2 year period you have spent more money, and they have made more money. Samsung wants to make money, so they'll sell devices that will make you want to upgrade devices more often. It has nothing to do with what is best for the user, or what their costs are to make phones that have bigger storage (which are nil). They want you to buy more things from them more often so they'll continue to sell things that facilitate that upgrade path. That is why 16GB phones still exist in 2015. There is no other reason.
  • Where to even begin. 1) I only talked about samsung because I don't feel like typing samsung/sony/moto/lg every time. The same applies to everyone. Samsung is just easy to talk about because they sell orders of magnitude more phones than everyone else in the android space. Samsung actually does make 2 devices that are pushed to the public that are 8GB devices. The Tab 4 in 7 and 8" sizes come in 8GB capacities. A new phone, even with all the apps someone would have used, will still have more free space. There will be less in the cache, most people won't move their pictures over to the new phone, and wont' install every app. Sure it's no tlike they'll start with 16GB free instead of 500MB but they'll still have more storage. I have factory reset my N5 twice in the past year and both times after I was done setting it up I had at least 4 more GB of space free than I did before the factory reset. And again, the fact of the matter is that *any* oem knows it works. They'd rather sell you a 16GB device every 2 years instead of 32GB devices because you're more likely to upgrade sooner if you have less space. I know at least a dozen people who have upgraded phones within a year because they cheaped out and bought a 16GB device and wanted a bigger capacity. Some of them were iPhone users, but some were also Android users. So in fact whoever made their phone made 2 sales, especially in the case of apple. Apple, Samsung, LG, anyone will be happy to sell you two phones in the course of a year or two because they make more money that way. Simple as that.
  • 16gb is plenty for a typical phone/phone user, but it's not enough for someone with games and apps. I also feel a flagship that is higher spec should include more storage than the midrange phones. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I made a similar argument about 6 months ago, and I was shouted down as a non standard user and told to use the cloud, or external hard drives. So, to play that side, why are you editing/curating media from a video camera and a full size camera on a smartphone, when you would have better control on a laptop? With the videos, you're either uploading a few good short clips, or editing to make a longer compilation. With the pics from the big camera, you're throwing away 80% or more, and you need a full size screen to pick out the best ones to print or crop and post. I took about a thousand ~8mb pics on the dslr each week of Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years, but I'd never expect to manage them from a phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not having a removable battery is Okay. Actually, I rarely see people going around with 2 batteries :D However, I my next smartphone must have and SD slot. My LG G2 only hasjust over 1 Gb left. And to be honest, I try to make as much storage as possible since I need photos, music, apps, data, on my phone. I know how cloud things work. However, the internet speed and the 3G cost in Vietnam is so expensive....
  • My 64gb oneplus one is to small! Posted via Android Central App on 1+1
  • It is just a shitty phone, your fault
  • Yes, because people care deeply for your constant negative criticism. Posted via OnePlus One
  • The problem isn't even data hoarding, it's the bundled stuff that you can't remove to make more space. My AT&T S$ has almost 8GB filled out of the box. That literally 50% of the advertised capacity gone before you even turned on the device. And of course, you never got those 16GB to begin with because some of it is already lost to formatting, Keeping the 16GB option is fine for low to medium end devices but there is no excuses to have it exists on your flagships when you know that all your customization and add-ons will be robbing so much from the customer.
    On the topic of storage expansion, I think WP7 did it best. Whatever card you put in the phone was added to the total storage pool. The OS made no distinction between internal and external storage. You just got a bit block of free space which was awesome. Why can Google do that for Android? The responsibility shouldn't be left to devs imho.
  • 32gb should be the minimum on devices WITH an sdcard, on those WITHOUT it should be at least 64gb. Time for Google to add SDCARDs to Nexus devices, I don't care if they are removable or not, I'd be happy if they formatted it with an encrypting file system, but I'm sick of running out of room on Nexus devices.
  • There's too much money to be made by Google/carriers by killing SD card storage. That's why they are TRULY phasing them out. Posted via the Android Central App
  • That's why Google is trying to phase them out. Not going to happen Posted via the Android Central App
  • 16 gigs works great for me. I have some pretty big games and 100+ apps and I still have 3 gigs to spare. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Cloud services are a joke. You need to be responsible for your own data storage. Stop being so helpless people. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Probably even do with 32 since the jump to 64 is basically nothing these days. Even 32 is to little for me. I consume mass media like no tomorrow and even 32 isn't doing it when you have lots of ebooks full HD movies and tv shows on your phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly. Posted via the Android Central App
  • At any given time I have 1,000 photos, 1,500 songs and 2gbs of apps on my phone. That right their with a 16gb phone only leaves a person with a little more with 1gb of space. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's amusing when everyone talks about how cheap and/or free cloud storage is. Wouldn't it be nice if we all had this?
    Well, some of us in the world are on expensive limited data plans (not like we have any other choice if we want internet access) and the COST of even uploading your data onto cheap/free cloud storage makes the thought a laughable one at best. The best alternative? Much cheaper microSD cards, thank you...
  • Exactly! Posted via the Android Central App
  • 188 comments? Wow Posted via AC app by way of my right thumb.
  • It's a big deal. Seriously is. Posted via the Android Central App
  • 200 comments! Posted via the Android Central App
  • With how cheap storage is, no reason not to have 32gb be the minimum. At least samsung does this with their note line.
  • Samsung really does a good job giving it's customers a good deal. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Hell yes. I need more storage with every upgrade. Went from 500mb on the S1, to 8gb on the S2,then 16gb on the S3 and now have 32gb on my LG G2. Heck let's jump straight to 64gb base models this year with a 128 option for +$50. Posted via Android Central App
  • That would be very cool. Just the way it needs to be. I'm just amazed how people are drinking the cloud storage Kool-Aid. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Maybe the manufacturers or carriers think they have to offer a "less expensive" option, but they are actually doing a major disservice to customers. It is not fun having to constantly move data or delete apps. With the large OS, it is inconceivable to offer a product that leaves only 10GB or so for user data and apps. I will REFUSE TO BUY another device that is so poorly spec'ed in the memory department. Are you listening, Samsung and Rogers? Posted via Android Central App
  • I think 64GB should be the standard, get rid of 8GB and 32GB
  • I couldn't agree more. In this day and age, particularly for a tablet, 16gb is ridiculous. 32gb needs to be the new norm now. I suspect the reason it isn't, all boils down to price and price sensitive emerging markets. So the rest of us suffer right along too. I think this will shake out and change over time though and it won't be long before we are saying 32gb is not enough. Memory is kind of like a room in a house or storage unit. The bigger it is, the more you fill it up. Remember, at one time 512k was all you would ever need in a computing device. My how things have changed! Posted via Android Central App
  • Exactly Posted via the Android Central App
  • what we will find is that with everything nowadays just trickles out, the technology these sd card are needed for evolve at pretty rapid speeds, my first phone was 16gb back in 2008, there was no such thing as 4g, lte, phones didnt even play 480p videos let alone 2160p , and before we know it we will have 4k displays on mobiles, with movies probably being 5-6gb compressed, and 5G speeds but we will still use capped data and small storage options
  • It's really about margins and making more money for the stockholders. The real cost of emmc is only about $4 per 16gb chip. Most OEMs are just looking to pad their pockets and this is why we need new players in the game like One+, xiaomi, etc who are using more honest pricing. Posted via Android Central App
  • I blame apple for not upgrading their minimum storage in over 5 years, other manufacturers do it to cut costs and just throw in a SD card reader.
  • I just ate some cookies from Trader Joe's Posted via the Android Central App
  • Does it really matter? That's what expandable storage is for. It's not like we're dealing with the iphone where there is no expandable storage and you have to pay $100 to upgrade from 32gb to 64gb. Need more storage, get a bigger micro-sd card.
  • Exactly. What it sounds like to me is the Motorola/Nexus crowd is trying to justify how they don't have the option for an SD Card. Posted via the Android Central App
  • EMMC is a lot faster than sd cards (that is until UHS1 actually gets implemented in phones) and SD cards don't help with big games/apps. I've also had a few sd cards in phones fail due to their lower quality components. All things considered, give me more built in storage. Posted via Android Central App
  • 16 gb on storage is need to die! Posted via LG G3 Sprint
  • i remember my first phone with 16GB of storage, it was the Nokia n96 and that was way back in something like 2008, which is a whopping seven years ago, to put that into context, a little bit the games, weighed a few MBS each or about the same as the average MP3, with the odd game maybe 10-20MB, and the operating system took a few 100Mbs from the storage option but you could still add a micro sd card upto 32gb, fast forward to 2015 where the odd games can be 3GB, we have 4g data transfer, and better then HD content available. and operating systems that take up 3-6GB of space from THE SAME 16GB storage option, i really dont understand the logic in companies that persist on stupid storage, the cloud may be a solution, but we dont have uncapped data, we dont have a constant connection and still many people live in rural areas, even in the uk so a cloud option is useless for lots of people still.... storage is so cheap that on a £600 flagship think 32gb is minimum, and if there is no sd slot on board then im afraid it should be 64gb minimum...... that extra few £££ for each chip is recouped anyway in the first few days sales especially if your the big guns that can sell big numbers
  • I actually also think advertising phones with storage should be re-marketed, they should advertise the available storage not the total, because the user does not have access to the total storage, im pretty sure that portioned off only for the OS right, so really a 16gb samsung s4 for example should be labelled 11gb, i use the samsung as this was my last model before note 3 that had stupid storage.
    Either this or is there not a way that manufacturers can simply add their own storage space for use on the phone for no other purpose then the phones OS and anything relevent, and then seperate storage for the end user?
  • Exactly Posted via the Android Central App
  • Add to that - companies like LG "SPECIFICALLY CHOOSING" not to bring 32Gb versions of the G2 & G3 into the UK; when they are available within the EU and compatible. The only way to get them is to use dubious suppliers and take the risk. Google's refusal to allow SD cards made me reject Nexus devices from day one. Until the Nexus 6 64Gb, the Nexus idea was utterly hopeless for me. Awesome AC.
  • I agree, and posted the same comment, why can we not easily buy 32GB variants in the UK? Even Samsung's store in London didn't have 32GB versions of their phones available when I was there Posted via the Android Central App
  • Trust me 16 GB is a joke....64 GB should be starters for phones without a SD card.... Posted via Android Central App
  • I blame the carriers Posted via the Android Central App
  • Amen, Russell, Amen. Thankfully, it appears that there are people out there who can make a difference who are making a difference. For example, the carrier-branded editions of Sony's Xperia Z3 phones have 32 gigs of storage (at least in the United States and Japan), whereas the unlocked edition has only 16 gigs. That said, this would be less of an issue (but still an issue) if Google hadn't handled the security issue regarding external storage stupidly.
  • This is a no brainer! Da Note 4
  • I agree with this totally. I had a 32 GB Nexus 5 and loved it. I had to switch phones and I got a Z3. Unfortunately, they only had the 16GB version. I have a 64 GB card inside for photos and videos, but the problem is apps. I love to beta test apps. I'd have 3 or 4 of the same kind of app on my Nexus 5 and it was okay. Now, I have to be picky, and occasionally uninstall apps to keep my space free. It also sucks for gaming. I have to choose which game I want to play and play it through to the end because I don't have space to keep it and go back to it whenever. This has more to do with devs not opting for Google cloud save for progress, but that's another want for another time. Anyway, I don't know why Sony didn't opt for 32 GB as the. base model, seeing as the camera can take 4K videos and huge sized photos. You should be able to store some video on your phone in the event you don't have a micro SD card.
  • The T-Mobile Z3 has 32 GB. Posted via the finally lag-free LG G3 on CM12
  • I hope people vote with their wallet this year. Boycott every device with only 16gb of storage, even those with micro SD support. It's 2015, low end devices should start at 32gb and high end devices should start at 64gb.
  • LMAO Moto and Nexus Posted via the Android Central App
  • So say we all! Posted via the Android Central App
  • And, no more 2gb of ram Posted via the Android Central App
  • I have a 16GB nexus 5, and I'm cutting it close as far as storage goes. I usually clean out my photos every few weeks or so after they have been backed up to G+ Photos. 16GB gets the job done for me, but barely. Next phone I get has to be 32 GB at the minimum
  • I've this philosophy for awhile. I have a Note 4 and an iPhone 6+. Don't judge me. I have a 32gb sdcard in my Note and the 128GB iPhone. I take a lot of pictures and video and it is extremely important for me. I like having the on board storage because I've had issues with sdcards going bad. I have a ton of stuff on my iPhone and still have over 80gb free. Makes it nice to not even have to think about storage. It's expensive but I think worth it.
  • That's very cool Posted via the Android Central App
  • I upgraded from an iPhone 4 8GB to a 64GB OnePlus One. I'll have to get used to not having to worry about storage ever again. I also just hope that by the time I upgrade my phone, 64GB will be standard or Project Ara will be a (stable, officially launched and easily obtainable) thing.
  • I'm perfectly fine with the 16 GB version. I don't use up more than 3-4 GB, neither do I have to have hundreds of apps, and neither do I have the time to play games and listen to music from my phone.
    16 GB (10 available) should be enough for whatsapp, browser, blinkfeed, photos & evernote. ;)
  • Here here Posted via the Android Central App
  • Thanks for keeping this important topic in the lime light. I've been saying this for years. Companies will sell you a phone with 4k video recording, 2k display, and double-digit megapixel cameras and then expect you to be happy with the storage space standard established (and headed for obsolescence) years ago! Would you buy a core I7 laptop if it only had a 40gb hard drive that was non replaceable? no. Part of what makes android great is the microsd card compatibility so its sad that my old Motorola Droid X had it yet I would have to DOWNgrade my moto X to a moto E to get it back. Some of the OEMs got greedy since then and figured if @pple can pull shenanigans for money and get away with it (16->64gb) then they can too.
  • I blame manufacturers still making us believe that doubling storage requires a huge price hike too. And after the arrival of a baby in our lives, my wife and I realised that we're going to definitely need to stay away from limited storage (no sdcard) phones. Posted via Android Central App on a N5
  • I bought this year, the Motorola Droid turbo nylon ballistic 64 GB phone, its the first phone I have ever owned with out the SD slot, And even having the 64gb model, I wish it had the SD CARD SLOT. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Storage is the one major bottleneck that mobile devices have... Even more than the battery.
  • I agree but you pay me my new 32gb phone? Let's say... 400+euros? Thank you then. Otherwise, I will get WHAT I CAN WITH MY MONEY.
  • All the manufacturers do this so there has to be more to it than just cost. I would't even consider buying a phone without removable storage until they up the built-in to128gb. I have 30gb of just music on my phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Galaxy S3/S4 - 32GB versions released but NOT IN THE UK LG G3 - 32GB/3GB RAM version released but NOT IN THE UK, we get 16GB/2GB RAM variant only. See the problem here? Posted via the Android Central App
  • Don't worry too much. The S3/S4/S5 32GB versions weren't released in the US, either. I was just checking Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, and the 32GB S5 is not listed. Not sure about the other carriers. Fortunately, LG comes through in that arena.
  • First let me say I agree that as apps like 4K 8K video alone make the need for more storage a must, we will not be getting this support from most suppliers. The "game" now is to get us to either pay more for 32GB + in the phone or to pay for someones cloud storage - The key word here is pay and of course more profit from every sale. If any of us owned a phone supply operation we would still be shipping 8GB if we could fit the OS on it. I decided to try an iPhone 6 when they first came out (scalpers were NOT getting the profits they expected especially on the 16GB version) after putting about 200 songs on it and shooting a couple of slo mo videos just to try it out i saw, for the first time in my life, the No memory left message. At this point I plan to periodically back up photos and docs to my own local hard drive. Cloud services? I am not renting space in the cloud. I got lulled into 50GB free Dropbox that came with a NOTE 8 a couple of years ago. when they took my files hostage when it it expired, it was not a good feeling. Point is, it's about profit, not giving you what you want at a low price. Don't hold your breath although I will say Google and some of the OEMS have been much more giving than Apple. Give them credit though I'm sure the 150 million new iPhone 6 owners are paying their iCloud storage fees.
  • 16 GB is fine with me. I don't store music on my phone, I stream it. Also, I have cameras to take pictures of videos. Give me a low priced option.
  • I guess I'm the only one that can make due with 8gb. I also have about 2gb left of storage on my phone. I just make a habit of getting rid of apps i don't use. I also don't play games on my my phone as i feel they are a waste of time. I'm 17 years old btw. Posted via the Android Central App
  • That's exactly why Samsung did so well over last few years. People like their expandable storage. HTC went down once they removed that option. Now, with the M8 and SD card support they're back on top. Same with LG g3. Love this phone and it's sd card! Motorola is kicking it's own ass by not offering that. At least they have 64 GB models,which is fine too. 16 is way too low and even 32 is border line. And for all those poor folks without unlimited data cloud is not a great option either. So screw the carriers and get a phone with tons of build in storage!
  • My current phone and last phone both came with 32GB of memory. That was a requirement for me with any phone that doesn't have expandable storage. However, I would think OEMs are less concerned about storage considering cloud storage. I take a picture on my phone, it goes to dropbox, and dropbox uploads it on my computer for local storage.
    I think by 2016 32GB will be the lowest standard but I believe people will certainly last through 2015 if they aren't extreme users.
  • 32 should be a baseline standard. To everyone saying they only NEED 8 or 16, you don't actually have to use all of the extra space. The base price is going to be the base price whether it's 16GB or 32GB. My Nexus 7 2013 is 16GB and the constant app juggling or plugging in OTG cables hoping not to break the port one day is not worth it. I skipped the nexus phone and got the G3. 32GB from the start and has an SD card slot. Apps are getting bigger. Updates are getting bigger. Photos are getting bigger. Eventually the bottom line configuration needs to reflect that.
  • 16GB of storage didn't meet my needs two years ago, actually. In fact, I'm almost at capacity with this 32GB M7. I'm hoping HTC offers the M9 with 64GB. I have a 64GB iPhone 6, and I think that's my ideal amount along with some low-cost or free cloud space. And I'd prefer not to use microSD cards, although I don't mind having the option in addition to ample built-in storage. Posted via AC App on HTC One
  • I have 140 GB of storage capacity on my Xperia Z Ultra at the moment (16 GB internal + 128 GB microSDXC) but it isn't enough, 256 GB would be good but even better with 512 GB. The reason is very simple: I use it as my computer replacement on the go and store about 2,900 books and magazines (mostly PDFs) on it since it is my main reading device as well. 20 GB of music is also there and then some games (GTA: VC and GTA: SA) but more internal storage would be great. For those who use their device as a "phone" first and foremost, small storage capacity is sufficient but for a device like the Ultra, 64 GB internal storage (or even better 128 GB) + microSDXC would be perfect and I really hope that my next device will offer capacity like that. When a device is taking on the role as a "laptop replacement", it is important to be able to store approximately the same stuff as on the computer, hence my need for big storage capacity. Devices without microSDXC slots are out of the question of the same reason.
  • Preacher A.C. to choir. Choir Heads nodding "peach on brother preach on. Bring on the 32or64GB base line". Can i get a GIF? Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yes this horrible practice needs to go. I'm am android guy but Apple got it right with the various setups just overpriced. Posted via the ACA on NEXUS 6
  • Good like I mentioned in most forums we get more cpu more ram why not gb memory storage it's about time minimum we should get is 64gb to 128gb Ulimate Note 3
  • It really depends on the person. For me I like the idea of having a phone with 32gb hard drive. However, I have a 64gb sd card and have only used around 6gigs of the internal hard drive. My wife on the other hand has a Note 2 that has a 16gb hard drive and still has 13gb available because most of the apps, music and movies she puts onto a sd card as well. It really depends on the person. Posted via my Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
  • 100% agree with this article. I had the problem of 16GB with my Sony Xperia Z1 after it got kit kat. So when I bought my next phone (OnePlus One) I made sure I got the 64GB version. The extra storage and peace of mind is worth the money. Posted via Android Central App
  • Amen! And these phones even budget with only 8 are ridiculous. Posted via the Android Central App
  • thats why i been skipped the gs5 , i really tough that it was gonna be 32 so i just went and grab another note.
  • How Russell, how do we say no if they offer no choice? Especially international many OEM's only ship the 16gb version to Australia. Let's face it we are the minority of Phone buyers and the OEM's know it. They can keep supplying Shit and the masses will continue to buy them. Look at how marketing have sky-rocketed 2 mediocre companies to the lead. Posted via the Android Central App
  • No. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I'm already running a 32 gig tablet with a 128 gig sdcard. I have the option of using USB in excess of 1 terabyte hd space. The problem I'm facing is that the tablet itself only has 1 gig of Rom! My next purchase is a tablet with 3 gigs of Rom, and 64 to 128 gigs of Ram, also sporting an sdcard slot capable of supporting a 128 to 256 gig sdxc sdcard. I choose not to support phone carriers, but to use Wi-Fi wherever I go. Of course I have complex levels of security, but in my area Wi-Fi is the way to go, and the cloud isn't as secure as you think. Posted via the Android Central App
  • @Russell Holly
    Thanks for your awesome post. more than a year i am saying here that 16GB internal phone storage is not for high end smartphone, that only suited on mid range phone only. and for low end smartphone 8 GB minimum should be there.
    All smartphone company should go for
    high end smartphone series: internal phone storage 32GB minimum
    mid range smartphone series: internal phone storage 16GB minimum
    low end smartphone series: internal phone storage 8GB Thanks in Advance
  • Correction: It's LONG PAST time to do away with the 16GB standard... Just sayin'
  • that's why I will never buy a moto x until they fix that issue. I use a 128gb in my note 4 and its almost full and got a 64gb for back up.
  • Its hard to say no when many android phones only come in 16GB. posted from my galaxy tab pro 10.1
  • I agree, high end phones need more storage. These phones takes around two hundred to build, and retail for six, they could upgrade the nand. Personally, I am going off contract for all new phones to keep at&t bill down and am seriously considering the new blu energy phone. Biggest pet peeve is having to charge at least once during day to get through.
  • With low-cost phones still shipping with 8 GB, I'll be happy when those ship with 16 GB onboard and a microSD slot as well.
  • I love the fact that I can get 32GB on my Note 4 PLUS get 64GB of external SD storage.. I just wished they would allow file expert to move my music files to SD card..pain in the ass that I can't cause they cracked down on not allowing permissions to writing on the SD card..WTF Google? Posted via the Android Central App
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  • Amen! If I didn't have an SD card in my S4, I would have run out of space, just with the apps I have installed. I'm currently at 3.8GB free. And the only apps that take up a lot of space that I can remove are Facebook, Chrome, and Office Mobile. The other apps just say "Uninstall updates", which does nothing to help with space issues. I hate that the S4 treats apps like Amazon (along with Amazon Music, Amazon Kindle, Amazon AppStore) as system apps. Even TripAdvisor is a system app. And, there are a limited number of apps that can be moved to the SD card, so Samsung's "move everything to the SD card" option is basically worthless. I can't root the phone, because it's provided to me by my company. In a couple of years, 32GB will be too small. Le sigh.
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  • Everyone is complaining about only 16 gb of storage and here i am with my pathetic 1 gb phone constantly erasing data and transporting photos to free up just a little bit for some more songs or one more app and trying to deal with random glitches ... yep i feel lame now Postes from lamest phone ever, LG thingy
  • I disagree. I have a 32GB Droid Turbo which I picked up on launch about a year ago. When I got it, I did a little spring cleaning on my old phone, and transferred over what I wanted to keep. Between that data from my old phone, apps, pictures, videos, content and everything else I've put on there I've used about 8GB in total. If the Droid Turbo had come in a 16GB variant, I would have saved the money and bought it, as I know I am not a heavy storage user on my phone. (I also know I am not a heavy data user, which is why I am fine with a 2GB data plan, no matter what I do I can never seem to use more than 1.5GB of data in a month, and I am a heavy user, on my phone all the time) If you need more storage space that is great. I hope they release versions that suit your needs. Don't make the rest of us waste our money on something we'll never use though.
  • I'm saying no to 32gb also. I find I need more than 32gb and since I don't want to use an sd card , I want a choice of 64 to 128 gb onboard storage. I don't know many Androids that offer this, except Samsung and I will never buy a Samsung phone. So I guess that just leaves iPhone.
  • Yeah lets just so happen to get rid of 16gb storage just when they happen to include micro SD on galaxy s7 which is a hell of a lot cheaper than buying built in storage. Such BULL!