Vector 24: Benedict Evans on the meaning of really cheap smartphones

Telecom analyst Benedict Evans talks to Rene about what really cheap Android handsets mean for the mobile market, Nokia’s quest for the next billion customers, and who’s buying the iPhone 5c.

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Rene Ritchie has been covering the personal technology industry for almost a decade. Editorial Director at Mobile Nations, analyst at iMore, video and podcast host, you can follow him @reneritchie on [Snapchat](, [Instagram](, or [Twitter](
  • Vector = excellent, Benedict Evans = excellent. Looking forward to this one :) Posted via Android Central App
  • Listened to it this morning. I could listen to the British talk all day lol Sent via my Verizon Moto X
  • it is Androids quest for the next billion not windows phones...
  • IPhone 5c is very expensive. Apple doesn't know cheap or affordable when it hits them. Why android is so popular is simply because they offer a variety of smartphones from lowcost towards high premium phones and everything in between. Apple only has the higher tier Posted via Android Central App
  • To be honest, I think it would both prove detrimental to Apple's ecosystem and cut into their profit margins to provide a budget iPhone.
    Remember, Apple doesn't even compete on specs; they compete on experience. With Android, high-end handsets are distinguished from their lower-end counterparts via specs: high-end devices have better processors, GPUs, bigger screen sizes and better quality screens, etc. How is Apple to distinguish their high-end devices from any anticipated budget model? And, without cutting into their profit margins? If a budget iPhone provides the same experience as a higher-end model, then they've effectively screwed themselves. Posted via my "Gift from God" Nexus 5
  • Spot on, old chap. A lot of the "Apple experience" is in the design of the iPhone, so the 5C was indeed a step in the right direction (plastic in easter-egg colors instead of the usual industrial-design metal and glass). But how do they go cheaper? Paper? Cardboard? lol
  • Haha, Motorola's using wood backs for the Moto X; I wouldn't be surprised, to see Apple use "reinforced" paper. I can see the headline, now: it's our thinnest, lightest, iPhone EVAR! Now, with a breathable back! It'll NEVAR overheat!! Posted from my "Gift from God" Nexus 5
  • Both Rene & guest mention the Nokia 530, I assume they mean Lumia 520/525.
  • Apparently someone paid for a BIS subscription on his/her BlackBerry, popped in the SIM into an Android phone and found out that he/she could still use the same data plan on both devices. At least that's how it occurs with Airtel NG for instance. Sounds more like carrier negligence and/or a lapse/backdoor in server security/structure (I am guessing, I do not know the exact process of server architecture) than the "scam" he makes it out to be.
    And no, it didn't necessarily start in Nigeria...