Epic touch 4G

We just got word from someone who will be soon having some hands-on training with the Sprint Epic 4G Touch, and they filled us in on the device specs and details.  There's nothing here we weren't expecting, but that hardly makes it any less impressive.  Check 'em:

  • 4.52 inch Super AMOLED Plus display
  • Ultra-thin (9.59mm) design
  • Samsung Exynos 1.2GHz dual-core processor
  • Wimax 4G radio
  • Media Hub
  • 8MP rear camera and 2MP front camera
  • Social Hub
  • HD video recording
  • Samsung Kies Air
  • Wifi calling
  • NOVA 2 HD pre-loaded
  • Swype pre-loaded
  • AES-256 internal/external hardware encryption
  • Bluetooth 3.0
  • Sprint ID
  • Polaris Office
  • Hotspot controls up to eight devices
  • Android 2.3
  • Optional USB Host kit for connection keyboards, cameras, printers and thumb drives
  • Optional HDMI adapter
  • Multimedia and Car docks will be available

Bazinga!  That reads like an Android geek's letter to Santa Claus.  Be sure to join us tonight for the live blog -- there's no way you wanna miss any info about this one. 

Thanks, KevinChaos!

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JayWill says:

Are they shipping this with 2.3.3 or 2.3.4?

kevinchaos says:

I'm thinking it's 2.3.4, because the training site mentions using GoogleTalk for video chat.

JayWill says:

Ahh yeah that would be a solid hint at 2.3.4. Thanks for the info man.

Supraman21 says:

What Resolution?

PhilR8 says:

All SAMOLED+ displays are 800x480. SuperAMOLED HD devices are allegedly coming soon, and will be 1280x720 but will achieve this via 5-6" screens and a return of the dreaded pentile matrix.

Wicell says:

Samsung can make 4.5" SAMOLED HD screens.

SlimJ87D says:

But it's still going to be SAMILED PLUS.

That means that an increase in sub-pixels by %50. Imagine that at 720P and the sub-pixel increase!

http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii/compariso...

http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galax...

shynepo says:

EXYNOS!!! I'm officially sold!!!

cpuOahu says:

What about NFC?

SIGH . . . I know. That would have been automatic for me... I really want a phone that's future proof... And I'm definitely interested in NFC . . .

PingaDulce says:

Future proof? Let's be realistic folks... There is no such thing as being future proof when it comes to technology gadgets...

NFC is another stupid gimmick... Just swipe your credit card and go on with your life. Jesus Christ, people are so damn lazy.

The uses of NFC goes WAY beyond just Swiping your card. Its about making things simpler, Consolidation. CCards, Buidling Passes, Bus, Train passes ETC . .. possiblities are endless. A year from now every phone will have NFC . . . even Apple who doesn't like to play keep up with the iPhone is rumored to have NFC, and once Apple is onboard it will just EXPLODE (I love Android but you can't deny the Apple effect)

A phone with these Spec and NFC will be future proof for "ME" . . . i'll be satisfied for another 2year contract.

JayWill says:

Unfortunately the FCC docs told us this. It seems AT&T's variant will be getting NFC though. I guess Sprint decided to hold off on it a bit longer, probably until they get the deals in place to make sure they make a couple nickles on the transactions.

cpuOahu says:

I was holding out hope anyway - lol. The Nexus S 4g has an NFC chip and Sprint is a partner in Google Wallet.

Tyndall says:

Seriously? I just cannot see lack of NFC being a deal breaker. I've had my Nexus S for just under 4 months and have yet to see a "real life" use for it. Even if it comes, by then I'll be due for an upgrade.

I am most likely going to get this phone (Only reason I hedge is that I was committed at 4.3", but now want to hold one before I jump), and would never dismiss it due to lack of NFC. That feature is WAY down on my needs.

Google Wallet hasn't even Launched yet... nor has the ISIS or VISA Stuff... just give it some time..

ChiquiKon says:

Still don' t know if I really want NFC on a phone :/

dkotoric says:

hell yes, all I need to see is Exynos

PingaDulce says:

SIXTH POST!!!!!! Since Jerry deleted my FIRST POST!!! You mad? lol

EXYNOS BABY!!! I'm sold on it... My Photon will be passed along to my son and I'm getting this puppy... Stop hating, Verizon!

Part of my grand experiment to teach the spam filter that "First!" is an automatic deletion. Getting close. Now I'm about to start teaching it that !!!!!!!!!!!!! is also spam...

PingaDulce says:

Sorry to burst your bubble, Jerry, but that is a never ending battle. ;-)

Robbzilla says:

Keep up the fight!

demontooth says:

Personally I would ban instead of delete.

vansmack says:

Don't give up Jerry. Those are great ideas.

PingaDulce says:

Yea Jerry, don't give up!! The more people bitch about the first posts, the more we keep doing it...

Or I could just ban you from the site, which I'm seriously considering.

Edit: Yeah, let's consider this your first, and final, warning.

yumyum says:

Wow, thank you Jerry.

A "FIRST!!!! LoL" spam filter would just be awesome. Please make it happen :D

yumyum says:

/double post

ChiquiKon says:

with that username I'm almost sure where u are from LOL

DarkMx2000 says:

Wait am I reading that right? Wifi calling on Sprint?

youareme7 says:

I was wondering the same thing myself! I'm not on Sprint now but I didn't think they had WiFi calling available. If they're bringing it that would be fantastic though and another reason for me to want to switch.

Slingbox says:

Samsung Exynos 1.2GHz dual-core processor
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

somdave2005 says:

NO NFC????

PingaDulce says:

NFC is another stupid gimmick... Just swipe your credit card and go on with your life. Jesus Christ, people are so damn lazy.

somdave2005 says:

Just another nice option to have. The potential for Google Wallet is there. why do you think Google, and now AT&T, Verizon, Tmobile with ISIS is investing in this technology? Even Apple is rumored to be testing out a mobile payment system on their iphones.

cpuOahu says:

NFC does a lot more than just make payments.

vansmack says:

@PingaDulce You've clearly never had a phone with NFC or used NFC. Using NFC to toggles profiles it worth the price alone...

frozencloud says:

happy birthday/early christmas, etc to all ppl on sprint!

It actually IS my birthday today :)

yumyum says:

happy birthday! now go pre-order that baby

Looks like a winner.

It's a little bit thicker than the Euro SGS2 but it's still pretty damn thin

Slingbox says:

Whats up with wifi calling?

Mike77 says:

If it has the same weak radio the Epic has, it will be needed.

rockman1117 says:

Hmm, does it come with any SD card?

kevinchaos says:

16gb internal, with space for up to 32gb extra through micro-sd card.

rockman1117 says:

Ok, I guess they aren't throwing us a bone and give us one then.

757boy says:

...its beginning to feel alot like christmas...LoL.

Paul627g says:

Price price price... ?

bkj216 says:

No one cares about price these days; its just buy and be happy.

Paul627g says:

LOL... Glad there is no shortage of money in your household...

Not all of us are that lucky.

Tyndall says:

LOL you are the exception, not the rule. If this comes in above $199 then I will wait.

bkj216 says:

Wifi calling?! Great, that'll help out the weak Sprint connection in my home/office. Also the Encryption is nice too.

I hope the Wifi calling still works when running a custom ROM

Mobius360 says:

Wouldn't need a tablet with this thing in my possession.

I'm just not sure I want another device where I have to wait forever to get a update. I like a lot of things about my Epic but the Nexus Prime sounds perfect to me (if real).

reeper55 says:

Sold!

lokko21 says:

What's NFC....?

Wicell says:

Don't ask, don't tell... Android is powered by Google, I think you should use that capability.

hmmm says:

Something that gets boasted about a lot but will not matter for quite awhile in my opinion.

rd_nest says:

I call tell you that one of the best features of this phone is the Kies Air. I love that, I am sure many of you guys too will like it.

what is Kies Air? Every time I plug my phone into my computer, it shows Kies as an option.

That Guy says:

I'm not quite sure what Kies Air is but if it is anything like the Kies desktop app then it is going to be absolutely horrible.

rd_nest says:

Connect via your wifi network then have access to your phone on your desktop. This is done through a browser (not like a typical application installed in your PC).

travis442 says:

Seeing these spec's make me even more anxious to see the spec's for AT&T's version of the phone.

ZDriver says:

Exynos = Homerun..... SCRATCH! Exynos = GRANDSLAM!

Evo3d owners, bet you guys are pissed!

USB host kit is truly awesome also.

SpaceDroid says:

Why would I be pissed. I'm getting this. I can say I have the best of both worlds

It has the horrendous Samsung UI, whatever it's called. I love the screen on my Infuse, but the UI is so horrible it shouldn't be allowed on an electronic device.

Paul627g says:

Just root it and start theming it how you want... If you don't like a UI overlay then you shouldn't be looking at anything but Pure Google.

This is the first phone with TouchWiz 4.0 . . 100x better than the Old TouchWiz trash..

Who? says:

You forgot to include TouchWiz Version Awesome in your list of bullet points. /sarcasm

Droid/Nexus Prime FTW!

PingaDulce says:

Whatever is coming out in 2015 FTW... we could play that game all day.

Griffspen says:

The screen is too big.

SweetBearCub says:

"in your opinion".

For me, a 4.52" screen is great. It's still in phone territory, so it will still fit exactly where my current Epic fits, but it'll have 13% more usable on-screen space. In my book, that's a solid win.

jpeterson says:

What is the on board memory going to be - I read 16 GB but still haven't seen anything solid to hang my hat on. That would be great if we you can still expand by another 32 - I could finally load all the crap I want to on to my phone.

hmmm says:

Nice looking tablet. I didn't realize they were putting phone radios in them.

DAS says:

I really want this phone, but with using my Tab 10.1 as my media consumption device, I don't need a phone with a screen this big.

I don't see it in the specs anywhere, so would it be a good guess to say Netflix would not be immediately available on this device?

It is a nice looking phone though. If I didn't have the Tab, I would buy it on day one.

DAS says:

One more thing: This is a great buy for someone that doesn't have a tablet, but wanted an all-in-one device. The screen size is not too bulky to hold up to your ear, and would be easy on the eyes when viewing media content.

The best thing about Android and their OEM's is the choose each of us has to buy what best fits our needs and/or wants.

Paul627g says:

I think I will be passing.... Wait to hear on news if the Nexus Prime exists on Sprint or not... If it doesn't materialize then I may have no choice but to go with this.. Hard to go back to Touchwiz and branding after running a Nexus S 4g.

Robbzilla says:

Battery size???

rasbutan says:

I hope it's at least 1800.

NoSpin says:

No NFC at this stage makes me sad. But happy to see Exynos made it! Go get these phones guys, I've still got a year on contract...

DarkMx2000 says:

Could someone explain to me why he hype behind the processors?

Zorachus says:

Seems rather thick at 9.59, not so ultra thin ?

The main Galaxy S2 already for sale is 0.33" (8.49mm)
iPhone4 = 0.37" (9.3mm)

Nexus-S 4G = 11.17 mm
EVO 4G = ?
EVO-3D = ?

tommydaniel says:

Phonearena has the Nexus S at 10.88mm
Evo4G - 13mm
Evo 3D - 11.9mm
Photon - 12.2mm

Zorachus says:

Thanks but what do they list the current Galaxy S II thickness ? I think this Sprint Galaxy S 2 will be thicker than the iPhone4 and thicker than the current Galaxy S II, so not "Ultra Thin" like those devices.

And I believe the Nexus-S 4G is a tad thicker than the Nexus-S on T-Mo.

tommydaniel says:

iPhone 4 is 9.3mm compared to 9.59mm on the Epic. .29mm wouldn't be noticeable at all.

The Galaxy S II is 8.49mm. The Epic is 1mm thicker, again, not really noticeable and considering the original SII isn't out in the states it doesn't count.

svargas05 says:

Wait so why is everybody flipping balls about the Exynos processor we already knew this phone had since the Euro version???

I mean, hell yea, I'm excited too, but it's nothing new, is it? Am I missing something here???

NoSpin says:

Rumor was that Samsung would ship American Galaxy S II versions with Tegra 2 due to supply constraints. At least on Sprint's side that seems false now.

svargas05 says:

That's right!

I had completely forgotten about that....Well then, I guess I should take my party hat out too!

Good call.

SpaceDroid says:

Yes your missing it. There wasn't any certainty that it will have the Exynos or Qualcom chip. Since most consider the Exynos a better chip, it was a relief that it would be in the SGS2. We all know about the Exynos, hence the excitement.

tompro53 says:

I like the look of the phone & specs, I'm now thinking of getting this instead of the Evo 3D

Boo! The original Epic 4G had a great keyboard and was thin _enough_. So thin, in fact, that I put an extended battery in it and it's still acceptable. Now the Epic gets a hardware refresh and they leave out the best part. Do not want.

I'd rather have a Nexus device anyway, but I'm still waiting on a slider. Some of us actually do work on our phones and do not care how thin it is!

tommydaniel says:

Sprint is suppose to be releasing the Epic 2 at some point. The Epic Touch isn't a refresh of the original Epic, its a new device with the similar branding. Like the Evo, Evo Shift, Evo 3d...blah blah blah

dkotoric says:

unfortunately you are a minority in that so every company wants to make what people will buy most.

Mike77 says:

Samsung broke the Epic keyboard during their Froyo update anyway, it lags horribly unless you run a ROM that includes the keyboard fix.

rcdah says:

I wonder which phone will win in a face off photon or epic touch???

tommydaniel says:

Epic with the Exynos.

dkotoric says:

are you serious, the epic touch has a exynos processor not tegra 2, it will not even be a competition

rcdah says:

What are the difference of the two please explain???

PingaDulce says:

What GPU does the Exynos use?

dkotoric says:

Galaxy S2 has Exynos 4210 dual-core processor (former Orion) which includes a quad-core GPU, that according to Samsung is about 5 times faster than the GPU in their Hummingbird.
Given that Hummingbird had about 90m tiangles/sec (Adreno 205 about 40m triangles/sec), this means Exynos GPU capable of 450m triangles/sec.

PingaDulce says:

So in a nutshell, it's the fastest GPU currently available for a smartphone/tablet?

Mike77 says:

Most likely Epic will have the speed, Photon will have the advantages in stronger radios, call quality and updates(if you run stock).

ZDriver says:

Not even close Exynos 800-1000 points higher in quadrant.

justlaxin13 says:

While i sorta like what I see here, I will be absolutely heartbroken if the Attain is likewise a 4.5 incher. I have been waiting months for it to drop with the form factor that was so critically acclaimed everywhere else in the world, I just don't want a 4.5 inch mini-tablet...getting pretty worried

dkotoric says:

well considering that a refreshed version of the european gs2 is also coming with 4.5 I think samsung is dumping 4.3 so I doubt any future gs2 will have 4.3 screens including the att one.

movielover76 says:

Does .2 inches diagonal really make that big of a deal?
Note the very thin bezel, 4.5 inch phones with very small bezels can
be just barely bigger than 4.3 versions.

The same thing always happens with display sizes
Android always has 3 popular sizes at any moment at first it was
3.5,3.75,4.0 at that time 3.75 was deemed by the masses to be ideal
and 4.0 was considered crazy large
then
3.75,4.0,4.3
again the middle number 4.0 was considered the ideal size and 4.3 was considered too large for a phone
then
4.0,4.3,4.5
Middle number 4.3 is now considered ideal
and everyone freaks out about 4.5

Now I'm not claiming that this can go on forever, their is a maximum size for a usable phone I've held a few 4.5 inch phones and it seems like we're close to reaching the max size, but I'm open to any ideas the manufacturers come up that work to pack a bigger screen into a usable size, so I say wait on your judgement check out the 4.5 inch phone when it comes to the store and make a judgement then, you may wind up not wanting this 4.5 inch phone, but historically the majority of users have realized it's not to big, we just need a 4.75 to make them feel it's ok lol

justlaxin13 says:

See I'm stuck not because i think the extra .2 inches is a total killer. Rather, I personally feel that the 4" size is idea (I have a captivate right now and love it). Everything else about the GS2 im enthralled with however, enough to make me say "on fine ill take the jump in size no worries". But now that its jumped again, considering my qualms before (and seeing as apparently some of the US versions aren't quite as thin as their euro counterparts) it may be too much. Besides, from a sales aspect, ATT already has a 4.5" phone, made by samsung in fact. And while it isn't the total powerhouse that the GS2 is, its certainly in the "high end" classification. Whereas, if im not mistaken, the epic 4g touch and the hercules are going to carriers that don't already offer 4.5" phones, which makes more sense.

movielover76 says:

Ah, I used to own a captivate, which I liked except for the GPS that didn't work and AT&T and now I own a thunderbolt and I'll admit the captivate is small comparatively even for a 4 inch phone, so this would be a much bigger jump. I still say try it at the store, I was apprehensive about the thunderbolt's size and weight, but the additional screen real estate really does make a lot of things like browsing and streaming video much better, they say data usage is tied to the screen size of android phones and I think it's because it's easier to do more on a bigger screen. But you won't find many or even maybe any high end phones that aren't at least 4.3, so still give it a try in the store, you may not hate it as much as you think, I didn't.
If you do then you know for sure, I sadly don't even have that option, I switched to Verizon and they aren't getting an SGS 2 :(

Paul627g says:

Processor is nothing but bragging rights at this point in time... Really, benchmarks and bragging rights... I've said it before and will repeat.. Until the devs write code that utilizes the true power of the processors at hand it won't be anything more than bragging rights...
They can say it makes things faster for surfing the web, etc. etc.. that still comes down to connection.... Poor signal, and the faster processor available will still equal a poor web surfing experience. Only real advantage I see at this point is for gaming and flash player, stuff that hits the processor hard but like I mentioned above, until code is put into place its not any better than what were using now...

Still a nice looking device though!

SpaceDroid says:

You sure stated alot in your post only to be wrong in any event.

Mike77 says:

And you stated nothing to refute him.

SpaceDroid says:

Millions upon millions of dollars to make processors faster every 6 months is common practice/knowledge. You need a diagram of this. At that point its redundant to show you. If you don't understand this please go back to sleep.

Paul627g says:

Nothing I stated there is incorrect. Naturally it will be pushed as being faster at web surfing experience and many other things but it still comes down to web surfing=signal quality. Something Sprint is not known for..

The other half, sure I believe it take devs a good 6 months to a year to play catch up with programming code to utilize new technology. Dual Core's on phones.. Just the tip of the iceberg right now, it will be bragging rights and benchmarks for a while until we really see what these things can do..

SpaceDroid says:

No matter what optimizations arent implememted the processor is faster either subtly or noticebally faster. The manufacturing process, generated heat, claculations are all in accordacnce to an advanced design. They say audiophiles are hearing things no one ever hears and it doesn't matter. Just because you or others do not have the "trained" sense of detail doesn't make it a bragging glating issue.

movielover76 says:

Pretty sweet phone, I'm very sad that their will be no Verizon version, hopefully we will get an advanced dual core, Exynos based LTE phone of some sort from Samsung in it's place, maybe that's the nexus prime, though I heard nexus prime might be a TI chipset. Until theirs something impressive which ships with Ice Cream Sandwich, I'm sticking with my thunderbolt, which with the newest gingerbread leak it an amazing phone, battery life worries have mostly gone away, I get through a full day and it's very speedy even on one core at stock 1 Ghz

Paul627g says:

Hear ya there.. Nexus S 4g, running custom ROM v2.3.5 Gingerbread (OFFICIAL) no leak...

ICS in two months is the rumor.. ;)

Zorachus says:

If the Nexus-S 4G gets Android 4.0 ICS in two months, I am sure the XDA crew will port it to the Galaxy S II line of phones first.

movielover76 says:

I'm actually leaning towards the nexus prime for my next phone, assuming verizon gets it. I run custom roms all the time to get either AOSP or closer to AOSP, might as well get a phone that's always AOSP

Shawheim says:

Can Not WAIT!!!! Im getting this no matter what. Even if the Nexus Prime comes out a month or 2 later.

ar_garza says:

4.52" is just too big, how long before these things are tablet sized? I think 4" is the perfect size.

ar_garza says:

Not to mention it's only 800x480 resolution, that's going to look awful.

Slingbox says:

Check out the AT&T Infuse.
Res looks pretty darn sweet

ar_garza says:

I just don't see how it looks "pretty darrn sweet" 800x480 only looks okay on 3.X inch screens at this point. It's just unacceptable on a supposed high-end device at this point.

phonezarelli says:

Totally agree. I too wish it was a little bit narrower. I think they will also be introducing a smaller version but it has a single processor and a few other reduced specs.

I would also be willing to compromise and have it be a little bit thicker if they could extend the battery life. Hard camera button would be nice, too. I still might get it, but, like others, I don't really want to use my upgrade on a phone that's 7 months old. It will be quickly surpassed.

Zorachus says:

What size battery ?

DarkMx2000 says:

Battery size I believe is 1850mah? I could be wrong.

PingaDulce says:

I sense so much envy and jealousy around these comments lately. Hahaha And people trying to justify why what they currently have is good enough for them. Defense mechanisms galore!

Slingbox says:

Exactly

Mike77 says:

Envy and jealousy over a phone huh? Ok if thats what floats your boat I guess to most its not life and death.

The truth is, no phone does everything the best. The Epic T4G will have the processing power. The Evo 3D has 3D (if thats your thing) and the best out of the box UI. The photon has the best radios, battery life and possibly call quality. To each their own, no phone ever seems to nail it across the board.

Paul627g says:

No defense here.. I ran the Epic 4g into the ground for about 9 months. Loved it to death, rooted the heck out of it and flashed its pants off 100 times over... Now I'm on the NS4G and even with outdated hardware its still a top choice phone because it has something many other phones even new ones can't say...

Hardware to software optimization. They gel almost perfectly, and that my friends is probably the biggest thing we all ask for but can't seem to get from branded devices and carrier/device UI overlays.

enrigayboy says:

I AM DROOLING!!! OMG!!!

cbpagent72 says:

I have a computer with USB 3.0 so files transfers at the "speed of light" (USB 3.0 is not really light speed for your word nazi's out there) will be awesome. I wonder if it has the fast charging capabilities like some USB 3.0 devices.

SweetBearCub says:

Where does it say that this phone has USB 3.0 capabilities? As much as I'd find that to be forward thinking, it's not listed on the provided spec sheet. Bluetooth 3.0, is however.

cbpagent72 says:

I have a computer with USB 3.0 so files transfers at 5 Gbit/s will be awesome. I wonder if it has the fast charging capabilities like some USB 3.0 devices.

Orion78 says:

Wow...just wow. That does look sexy. Damn I was going to wait on the upgrade and wait for later this year. I don't know what to do now lol.

DaEXfactoR says:

I love HTC and the Evo brand of devices....but I am fast becoming a Samsung fanboy...totally gettin this joint....

devgrp says:

Its a sweet looking phone, but I'm keeping my Evo 3D. I think sammy should have gone with qHD res instead of 400x800 res for such a lovely screen. My E3D screen is so sweet that sometimes I catch myself just staring at it lol. Plus the it being a little slimmer is a perfect fit in my hand.