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Android Central 214: Good gimmicks

Only four more shows left this year! This week we've gotten our hands on the new YotaPhone 2 and whether gimmicks can be a good thing, some fixes with Android 5.0.1 Lollipop, our take on the Nexus 9 Keyboard Folio, and of course more of your questions answered live.

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  • I think it's a bit unfair to call these things gimmicks. I think that some people are so used to the nothingness that comes with the nexus line, and the incredibly dull bare bones experience, that they think anything other than that is excessive.
  • "some people are so used to the nothingness that comes with the nexus line," I realize that is an opinion (of yours), and you are entitled to it. but let me just try to enlighten your perspective a little. That 'Nothingness' that you describe is actually quite something. it entails the ability to start with a clean slate and 'add' whatever you want with minimal effort in regards to first removing the things you don't want (not to mention the hassle of getting to the point of being able to remove them). So that 'Nothingness' that you refer to is actually quite something. It may not be for everyone but for those of us who appreciate it, it's quite fantastic. Just my $0.02
  • How would you "add whatever you want with minimal effort" if there's nothing to add... that makes no sense..
  • If you don't know what the possibilities are that could be added then clearly you aren't one of the people to whom I refer as appreciating the simplicity of the Nexus line.
  • Yeah but the fullness of the Samsung line teaches a lot of consumers what their new phone can actually do. The Nexus does very little right and actually overall should sour a person on Android.. Posted by my soon to be retired Note 3
  • I read that comment, and I think of cars. Some people want their car to be fast and don't care how it looks, some care how it looks and couldn't care less what's under the hood. Some just want the thing to work when they turn the key. You have a Nisan GT-R, some people are happy with it as is, no customization needed, some people feel the need to have work done. What I'm saying is some people prefer that minimal, simple, sexy stock look. I don't need a fingerprint scanner, heart rate monitor or a stylus to draw or take notes with when I'm bored. I believe one of the motto's of Google and android in general is "be together not the same". Yet far too often the person making the comment thinks what they like is the best and everyone else who doesn't is a mindless, drooling, fool (YOURSELF INCLUDED). I have learned to be okay with it because I'm not insecure, but I feel 95% of AC members should worry more about what they do, what device they spend money on and what is right for THEM and lay off the judging. Ask yourself "Why do I care if Joe Blow buys a droid turbo, OnePlus one, note 4, G3, nexus 6, etc? It's not my $ being spent, I'm not the one using it?" Posted via...The One
  • Well said via AC App on VZW Moto X DE/N7
  • After watching my parents — the most standard of users — use Nexuses as their first smartphones, and still not being able to grasp all of the features, I find it hard to believe that their experiences have turned them off of Android in any way. I can't imagine how much more work it would've taken to get them to wrap their heads around more complex devices.
  • Definition of "Gimmick" Gimmick- a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business. That definition comes straight from Google. Don't believe it, check for yourself. Pretty appropriate considering the words "device", "attract" and "business" are included. With that said, the note Edge is definitely a "gimmick". It may seem unfair to you, but the shoe DEFINITELY fits Posted via...The One
  • +1 via AC App on VZW Moto X DE/N7
  • Exactly! Posted via Android Central App
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  • Off the topics of discussion completely, but listening to Andrew speak induces a reaction equivalent to that of drinking a case of beer and ingesting a dozen sleeping pills. I mean my god man, have SOME personality for crying out loud! No need to start an angry mob everyone, just my opinion!
  • Am who I am. Sorry you feel so bored by me.
  • Andrew, you're not boring. You're not Jerry (I'm a Jerry fan) but you contribute a lot. It would be less without you. Posted via Android Central App
  • Much appreciated! Posted via Android Central App
  • I apologize... That was uncalled for. I just feel like you're kinda monotone a lot of the time, and it comes off almost like you yourself aren't all that interest in what you're discussing... Clearly I'm wrong, but that's how it comes off to me. And it erks me in a way to get the impression of a lack of enthusiasm in such a way... But its me taking it the wrong way... But anyway, I apologize. I was having a bad day, I listened to the podcast while working and it helped a bit, but maybe I took my bad day a little bit out on you. Not cool on my part. Thank you guys for doing these podcasts, and for everything else you do. You guys work hard to bring us nerds something to smile about and debate on a daily basis, and to me it's a big part of what helps me through the day. So thanks for that... Posted via the Android Central App
  • Lol just take everything literal huh? Awesome
  • Good job trying to negatively influence Samsung sales. What a joke. The Samsung note edge is not a gimmick. Posted via Android Central App
  • Of all the things we're trying to do here at AC, influencing sales of a certain product one way or another is not among our goals.
  • EAT MOAR CHIKN Posted via Android Central App
  • LMAO! Posted via...The One
  • On the issues people have been having with 5.0, Jerry made the odd point that what works for one person doesn't work for another. That pretty sums up my experience trying to solve issues with Linux in general. I like Linux, I really do, but any time I've had an issue, I typically read 20 solutions to the *exact* problem I'm having, I follow all the recommended steps *exactly*, and if I'm lucky, one solution works. I know Linux is fault tolerant, which is great, but when something does go wrong, 99% of the time, it's an enormous PITA to solve it. It seems Android's Linux roots makes it susceptible to this characteristic.
  • It's a gimmick as long as Nexus or stock doesn't have it. Once stock or nexus have this, it's best best thing since sliced bread. And there are clear evidence to prove it. + USB OTG. So many hardcore nexus fans told me it's another gimmick, nobody needs it. Before 3.1, it was not natively there in Android. But other phones like old Nokia had it for years. It was gimmick for every Nexus fans! + USB audio. Suddenly it's cool beacuse Lollipop supports it. Nobody bothers as it basically sucks. + Battery saver.. LOL!! + Priority mode.. Copied from Apple/Samsung. + With Lollipop, incoming phone calls won’t interrupt what you’re watching or playing. You can choose to answer the call or just keep doing what you’re doing. Again copied from Samsung/LG. + The Phablet Nexus 6 is itself copied from Note. Editors like these were all saying Note is a flop/gimmick when Samsung first released it. Now Google itself releases a phablet (phablet word is pathetic).
  • Excellent post.
  • It also works in reverse - it's an awesome feature until Google removes it, then it's a gimmick/crutch/unnecessary/harmful. SD cards for example: Android was praised as the platform for openness, features and capabilities, removable storage prime among these features. As soon as it was removed, Google fans came out in droves to deride the feature and demean anyone who still wanted it.
  • Bingo!
  • cool !
  • I'm not sure when the episode was recorded, but my 2013 N7 received Lollipop on Thursday or Friday (11/6 or 11/7). Also, OnePlus has released a blog post detailing their investigations into the allegations about refurb phones. The takeaway: uninformed consumers.
  • Please add fine control to podcast player. Rewind and Forward 30 seconds. Thanks Posted via Android Central App
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