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First things to know about the Pixel C

Google's Pixel C — its first completely in-house tablet — is now shipping. And as it's been more than a year since we've had a new Google tablet — the HTC Nexus 9 was the previous one — a lot of folks are looking at this one as their next not-quite-a-laptop solution.

The Pixel C, as you'll recall, is a 10.2-inch tablet with a slightly strange 1:√2 — that's the square root of 2 — aspect ratio. Well, it's odd for tablets, perfectly normal for a standard sheet of paper, which is what Google was going for. (It also means that you have the same aspect ratio when the display is chopped in half, which makes perfect sense for side-by-side windows, which Android doesn't have but eventually will at some point. But we digress.) It's powered by the NVIDIA Tegra X1 processor with a Maxwell GPU and 3GB of RAM, and has a 2560x1800 resolution.

It's an impressive, but also confounding, tablet.

We've been poring over the Pixel C for a bit now and have some initial thoughts. (And a few answers that came from a recent Reddit AMA with the Pixel C team.)

It's a little chunky

Nexus 9 and Pixel C

The Pixel is not a small tablet. It's obviously bigger than the 9-inch Nexus 9. Larger screens are larger. It's a good bit heavier, too — 517 grams to the N9's 425 grams. But it's also about 1 mm thinner. So it's a big, thin, wee-bit-heavy tablet. It's also got some impeccable build quality. If you're a fan of anodized aluminum — think Apple Macbooks — then you're going to love the Pixel C. It's a pretty stark change from the soft-touch plastic you might be used to. It's maybe not quite as easy to hold long-term. But, damn, it looks nice.

If anything worries us about the Pixel C overall, it's the weight.

The display is gorgeous

Pixel C

Funny what a few more pixels can do. I'm coming from the Nexus 9, which has an 8.9-inch IPS LCD display at 2048x1536 for 281 pixels per inch. The Pixel C is larger at 10.2 inches but packs a 2560x1800 resolution for 308 pixels per inch. And that makes a difference. There's also a pretty decent difference in color temperature compared to the Nexus 9. Everything pops just a little bit more.

The Nexus 9 display isn't bad. The Pixel 's display is just much better.

The keyboards ...

Pixel C keyboards

There are two optional keyboards available for the Pixel C. One is a leather-esque folio design, where the tablet connects to a back plate via some strong magnets (seriously, be careful where you leave this thing) and then folds over onto the Bluetooth keyboard when not in use. The "regular" keyboard is a single piece with a built-in hinge and an anodized back. You use the same magnets to attach tablet to keyboard, then pivot to the position you want. It's sounds a little tricky but in practice works just fine.

Both keyboards are charged by the tablet when you close them together. That keeps them from having to deal with a USB port for charging, but really it's just cool as hell. The folio keyboard is a couple millimeters thicker than the "regular" keyboard, and both increase the total weight of what you're carrying by about 75 percent.

Do you need a keyboard? Nope. And at $149 each, neither is inexpensive. But they're also the only official covers for the Pixel C at launch, which is damn near inexcusable.

This is not a Nexus, mostly, sort of ...

Pixel C recovery

You might be tempted to think of the Pixel C as a new Nexus tablet. And in a lot of ways you'd be right. It's "stock" Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow, insofar as the way it looks and feels. No bloatware. There is a good bit of excellent new audio stuff under the hood, though.

It's got the same developer tools you're used to. You can unlock the bootloader, but start tinkering around there and you'll quickly see that there's no traditional bootloader user interface. So it's command line-only. There is, however, a standard-looking recovery. There also are no factory images available like there are for Nexus devices, should you want to roll things back. Tread carefully, for now. Update: And factory images are now available! (And on the Nexus factor images page. Go figure.)

As for updates, the Pixel team said during its AMA that updates should be "on regular cadence lining up with the monthly security updates for Android."

For now, it's very much an Android tablet.

The start of a new tablet UI?

Pixel C UI

OK, one semi-big change to the user interface is that the on-screen buttons have been split. Back and home are now on the left edge, and the recent apps button is on the right. That's definitely more thumb-friendly. I think I'd like to see that on the Nexus 9.

One thing to remember, though, is that there are plenty of apps out there that don't support landscape orientation. Instagram, for one. So if you're using the keyboard a lot, you're going to run into trouble. Some things change, and some things don't.

And a fun fact: You can still use Smartlock to unlock the tablet, but you can't use trusted devices as one of the ways to do so.

114 Comments
  • I dont care about reading anything about this tablet until I hear more about performance when using multiple user accounts.
  • Well you go, girl.
  • Why would multi-user affect performance?
  • I dont know? Why is google releasing a product that has this functionality but cant handle it? More **** in memeory takes more work Its probably related to the 2gb of ram, the encryption or the tegra overheating
  • It has 3gb ram Posted via the Android Central App
  • i didn't give enough info sorry. I was referring to my experience on the nexus 9 which only has 2 GB of ram.
  • I think you're confusing "RAM" with "storage".  Both, unfortunately, are frequently referred to as "memory".  Traditionally, "memory" refered to RAM, but people seem to get confused once we got into the smart phone era and everything used NAND Flash as a storage medium (to replace the traditional hard disk in a PC) which is *technically* similar to RAM in how it works.  It's important to make sure you understand the difference, if you're going to try and diagnose an issue. Having multiple profiles setup does not necessarily result in more things being loaded in RAM.  It does result in more data being stored on the device's storage, but that won't affect performance on a solid state storage medium like tablets and phones use. There is also a common misconception that Android has "bad" RAM management, because people see "80% memory" usage.  This would be true in a Windows environment, but Android is based on Linux.  In Linux World, "free memory is wasted memory".  Android intentionally keeps things loaded in RAM so that they can be accessed more quickly, and apps doing have to run through the startup initialization if you're switching back and forth, which can actually save battery and data transfer.  Android's memory manager will then unload "older" items from RAM as more RAM is needed. This misconception has lead people to use things like "Advanced Task Killer" (or ATK) which kills all the processes every 15 minutes or so and removes them from RAM.  This will actually *hurt* performance and battery life of your device if it kills off something you use frequently, or (worse) a system-level process which must then immediately restart (and potentially make the system "wait" while it re-initializes). I run dual-profiles on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (running 5.0 and 4.4) and I haven't seen any performance affect from having two profiles.
  • I know exactly what the difference between ram and storage is but thanks for your pointless breakdown of linux ram management. How about you actually thoroughly use multiple profiles on the tablet I am talking about (nexus 9) and then comment so it actually provides value. BTW your tab S is not using androids default encryption so it isnt even a close comparison.
  • How am I supposed to know that you know the difference?  And you are correct, I am not using full disk encryption on my tablet, which only further illustrates my point: that you are ascribing your issues to the wrong cause.  The slowdown you're seeing is because of the software-based full disk encryption, not having multiple profiles.
  • I don't see any performance issues related to multi-user, and I tried it on a smartphone and not a tablet.
  • My 2013 Moto X does multi-user fine on lollipop as did my old nexus 10 on kitkat. I cant explain why its so horrible on the nexus 9 and thats why Im curious if the pixel c has the same issue.
  • maybe report about it here then:
    https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/
  • I reported it 6 months ago
  • The reason you didn't have issues on the older devices is, most likely, because the full disk encryption was not turned on by default.  Android 5.0 on the Nexus 6 and 9 enabled full disk encryption by default, but did not use the SoC's hardware encryption engine, which caused the encryption to cause a performance penalty on the device.  Android 6 is (as I understand it) now using the SoC's hardware encryption, which should provide much better performance. I don't believe your issue has anything to do with multiple profiles, and everything to do with the software-based full disk encryption that is enabled on your Nexus 9.
  • Its exactly the same from 5.0.1 to 6.0.1. Terrible performance if I am logged into mutliple profiles. I agree that it could be encryption but logging into a second profile must be causing the system to work harder which is causing the issues to creep up. I dont know why, just reporting what I am seeing and have been since 5.0.1 all the way till today on 6.0.1.
  • Can you find the thread?
  • My Google Nexus 4 is collecting dust and it kicks ass when multiple user accounting if you wanna purchase it for baby Jesus's birthday coming up here in a few days.
  • I want one. A lot.
  • why? it's so yesteryear. Not even supporting display ports or SDcard. It's straight up 2008 crap.
  • I hold a negative value on SD cards, having one is a detraction to me. It's a Nexus 9 on steroids - the Nexus 9 is a fantastic tablet, this appears to be quite a bit better and possibly the best tablet available. 2008 tablets were... nearly non existent, couldn't do much of anything and were a terrible experience. The first really good tablet, IMO, came out in 2012. It is incredibly clear that you're trolling, so I'll leave it at this: buy what you like, love what you bought. Don't worry about what I want.
  • USB C has display. So it does have a display port and SD cards are straight up 2008 crap. We are moving toward nonremovable storage which keeps files safer and while switching to USB C we can transfer files easier than we could with SD cards.
  • Good point about the archaic SD card - SD cards are a legacy feature, not an innovation.
  • It seems to me that this tablet wasn't originally designed to run android. There's just too many little things that seem "off". And it carries the pixel name instead of the Nexus branding. I've seen a couple different stories where there was a chrometablet in development at some point under the code name of ryu, which just so happens to be the name for the pixel c. I wonder if they just kept the hardware and switched out the OS? I'd be curious to hear the history of the development of the pixel c.
  • Interesting deduction. Lam I Am
  • We pretty much knew that months ago at the launch event. Not really a big revelation.
  • Pixel is the name of their in house brand. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Wait till next year when Android N is launched and there's a new Pixel tablet to showcase it - now with split-screen functionality!
  • Hi Phil, what do you think of this comment made by the Pixel C team on the reddit page: "Q: Are there any additions to Android you wish the Android team was able to get in in time for the pixel’s release (Ex split screen, improved apps, additional features?" "A: AB: We're working on lots of things right now for N that, of course, we wish we had, you know, yesterday. But we'd spoil the surprise of N if we shared all of them. Split screen is in the works!" Could this mean we will have to wait a full year until Android is ready for what the Pixel C was made for?
  • I think it'll be ready when it's ready and it won't get here any faster whether they said anything or not. What's important is what we have now. I wouldn't obsess over a single answer in that AMA. Of course folks are obsessing over every single answer in that AMA.
  • By that logic what's the point of a AMA then? Posted from my Nexus 6/Nexus 7 2013/Surface Pro 3
  • Marketing, advertising and interaction. You think celebs do reddit AMAs because they're bored? (And that doesn't mean I don't think they're cool.)
  • Fair enough. Posted from my Nexus 6/Nexus 7 2013/Surface Pro 3
  • I smell a bargain on this thing in no time. Like the 9, like the 6, like the 5x.....
  • I can only hope you're right. Got rid of my school iPad and left myself with my Nexus 7. After coming from an Asus Transformer TF300, I find myself missing a 10 inch tablet fairly often.
  • New type of ram GP lol Posted via the Android Central App
  • Definitely not worth the money but awesome hardware just no software to take advantage of it. Posted from my Nexus 6/Nexus 7 2013/Surface Pro 3
  • Nope.. The Pixel C just seems over-priced compared to something a million times more functional... Surface 3 with 64 GB is the same price as the 32GB of this tablet .. Surface is def a better buy with way more use. The Surface pro 4 with 128 GB & 12 in screen is just $200 more than the 64 GB model of this tablet as well and you get way more bang for the buck.
  • Windows app store is a wasteland. I'd never buy a touch tablet to use it traditional keyboard and mouse applications. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The Surface can actually run full blown apps though, and Android has a very limited number of tablet friendly apps.
  • Android has more tablet friendly apps than the Surface does, by a landslide. And if you're buying a Surface for full blown apps, why not just buy a laptop instead? The Surface has near zero usability as a tablet. In tablet form (read: no keyboard attached), everything the Surface can do, the Pixel C does 100x better. Windows 10 sucks as a tablet OS.
  • I have never understood the argument that "Android has a limited number of tablet apps". Android is, by design, built so that apps will scale to their screen size.  I have never encountered an Android app that doesn't run just fine on my 10.5" tablet.  Sure, ok, the Facebook login screen looks silly with two tiny text boxes in the middle of the screen.  But it's the login screen.  The app still works (and looks) fine after you login. People act like "whoop! This window only fills 80% of the screen! The app doesn't work on tablets!" The other argument is that Android doesn't have "tablet specific" apps, but I again refer you to my original statement:  Android is designed, specifically, so that you don't need *separate* versions of apps to have a tablet layout.  I want developers to make single apps that scale, rather than a separate tablet app that I'm going to have to pay for again.
  • You should see the Windows touch screen version of Facebook. It makes the Android one look really good.
  • Who cares about apps when it runs 32bit programs? Posted via the Android Central App
  • Windows mobile phone app choices SUCKS! I will 100% agree with you there. Which is why Android will always be my mobile, till something better comes along.. Windows has Programs, apps is not really much of a concern on newer tablets. I can do INFINTELY more on a Windows machine than an Android tablet, as a Windows tablet doubles as a real laptop.. The Pixel C can never be anything but an over-priced tablet. Android tablets just serve almost no purpose to me. All they're used for is media consumption. Just doing "phone stuff" on a bigger screen...
  • Yeah but then you have windows problems. Those windows problems are the main reason Apple is so popular. I want a surface but I just hate windows Ana I also won't be able to take my google play movies with me
  • It's priced exactly the same as all other premium 10 inch tablets, so I'd say it's worth the money.
  • For just the tablet, it's cheaper than some of the offerings.
  • There's been a lot of offers for the iPad Air 2 or the Surface 3 lately that make provide more storage and cheaper than the Pixel C. BestBuy currently offers the iPad Air 2 128GB for $575. The pixel C only offers $599 and it's half the storage. Last week I purchased the Surface 3 128GB for $499. Same price, but 4X the storage.. Keyboard use tend to skew more towards productivity. Situations in which the Pixel C is more productive than the Surface 3 of the iPad are few. This is truly a niche device.
  • As its running with nvidias chipset is it going to be compatible with, and have access to nvidias streaming hub for their shield line?
  • That's what I've been wondering. That could make it worth it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I suspect that would require the nVidia Hub software, which isn't included.  Of course, this is Android, so you could always try a side-load (assuming you can locate the APK somewhere).  Might need more stuff built into the core of the OS, though.
  • Missing from the list:
    > It starts at $500
  • My 32gb Nexus 10 was 499 when I picked it up... Posted via the Android Central App
  • I didn't have a Nexus 10 but, I did have an Asus Transformer TF101 with *$199* keyboard dock which over all still cost more than the Pixel C w/ keyboard. No regrets I loved it and gave it to my dad when I got my N7 2012 so he could learn to use Android and play angry birds/watch YouTube. My husband is wincing at every mention of the Pixel C since he knows I want to molest one. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Nexus 10 was ahead of its time. It had QHD before the term "QHD" was coined.
  • 1st thing to no it's pretty ugly and having 4gb of ram would of made this alot better sell Posted via the Android Central App
  • Touchwiz needs 4gb of ram, stock not so much. Lam I Am
  • Awe snap!!! I know right. So true. Shame on samsuck for allowing that to continue
  • If they got that and battery life sorted out I would gladly ditch my N6 for a S7. Lam I Am
  • I can certainly see that argument. I still don't like delayed OS updates though. That's the biggest thing that keeps me away from just about everyone in the android market
  • Dude! Me too. I do want the 6+ edge but I hate OS update delays. We probably wouldn't even know if we did stay on these sites so much haha. I wish the 6+ edge had a play store edition.
  • Funny, my tab pro works perfectly with just 2gb. Posted via the Android Central App
  • To be fair, if you take the time to go through and disable all the crap that you don't use, Samsung devices run a lot better :)
  • Good looking or not is purely subjective, so you can't say he's "wrong" in that regard.  And other commentators are correct that stock Android should run fantastic with 3gb of RAM.
  • It is amazing how simple that keyboard solution seems compared to Apple's weird implementation. I'm really still trying to understand what the hell they were thinking with it. So not like a company that likes to keep things so simple they're boring (Apple, not Google).
    This is a beautiful tablet though. Would love to try one, although I really don't need a tablet (although my surface pro 4 is on order to replace my laptop). Posted via the Android Central App
  • Received mine today, its a beast . quick and snappy. All those dragons inside. But for real its beautiful. And feels great in the hand. Its great minus duel window mode. But I can deal for the best new Android tablet around. It's very thin, the buttons are very sturdy and tactile. The display is gorgeous, haven't seen any bleed yet. A finger scanner would have been nice. But over all it great. I got it without the keyboard and couldn't be happier. Posted via a nexus
  • "...which makes perfect sense for side-by-side windows, which Android doesn't have but eventually will at some point"
    Actually, according to the next link, Android N will most likely have multi-window:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3w3x7p/hi_im_andrew_here_at_googl...
  • Underpromise, overdeliver, let's hope. Actually, let's just hope they release it when it's ready. All this "ZOMG they're working on it!!!" is moot. We know they've been working on it. It was in the first M preview.
  • Well this time they wrote it :
    “We’re working hard on a range of enhancements for Android in this form-factor – there are many things, like multiwindow, that we’ve been spending a lot of time on – hopefully we can share more about this soon.”
    “We’re working on lots of things right now for N that, of course, we wish we had, you know, yesterday. But we’d spoil the surprise of N if we shared all of them. Split screen is in the works!”
    http://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-c-ama-questions-661168/
  • This is the best Android tablet ever built IMO. I'd love to get one. No need at this point though
  • Just like the Chromebook Pixel is the best one ever built, but it's price is too high for what it is.
  • Yes, it is expensive. But I am glad that I waited for it. I did not need a Surface since I have use one for work....Though that Surface Book is nice looking. Yes, it is heavier than the Nexus 9 and the Dell 7000 almost got my $$$. I am glad that I did not pull the trigger on a Chromebook either since it did not fit my usage requirements...The Pixel C fits my needs perfectly...though I would have enjoyed an active stylus but that was a nice to have. I am extremely happy with the purchase. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Google really needed to work on the tablet ui before releasing this.
  • I will stick with my Galaxy Tab S 10.5 that I love that I purchased in 2014 around this time for $378 brand new. No problems here. Now I just might purchase a 128GB card soon. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yeah, once you get used to OLED, it's hard to go back. LCD has always been a terrible technology. Also, no expandable storage is a deal breaker for me. Those 128gb cards are really sweet (and cheap!) Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yup, I have one as well, and I purchased a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard with it and voila you get yourself a mini laptop! It suits my needs and I might be upgrading to a Pixel C in the future as well..
  • Why did they ever move the navigation buttons to the middle for tablets in the first place? They abandoned some of the good ideas that Honeycomb had, far too quickly. Posted via the Android Central App
  • They did that so they could have a consistent interface with the phones and tablets. That made a lot of sense at the time, since the only tablet that was worth owning back then was the Nexus 7, which was basically the same size as a large phone anyway. The buttons in the middle looked incredibly stupid on 10" landscape tablets, with the giant black bar running alllllll thheeee waaaaaayyyyyy across the screen. The button layout seems a little better on the Pixel C, but they really should just put some capacitive buttons on the bezels and be done with it. On-screen buttons are great if the screen takes up the whole face of the device. If you have giant bezels, might as well just put the buttons there (like Samsung does).
  • I'd argue that releasing the nexus 7, basically a big phone, was the mistake in the first place. No wonder tablet apps never gained any traction. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The Motorola Xoom, the Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1, the Asus Transformer, and other 10" tablets had been on the market for more than a year before the introduction of the Nexus 7. It not the reason tablet apps never materialized. The fault for that goes back to Google's original decision to allow phone apps to run full screen on Android with no sensible attempt made to scale them up. Apple (clearly) handled the transition a lot better; phone apps were allowed to run on the iPad, and they looked exactly like they did on the phone, with the option to zoom in and fill up the whole iPad screen. It was ugly, but it was functional, and developers really had a big incentive to rewrite their apps for the larger screen. The Android way was even uglier, and it enabled developers to ignore the need for tablet-optimized apps, because all their apps technically worked.
  • You do not need "tablet apps" for Android.  Android's UI layout is designed similar to a web page, where an app's UI elements can scale dynamically to fit the available screen.  This is because Android was designed from the beginning to support different screen sizes.  I would much rather have extra "whitespace" on a login page that has only two text boxes than to have two *giant* text boxes on the screen. For apps that do not use the built-in UI elements, they do just "scale up" to fit the screen, and have since the introduction of 3.0 (Honeycomb).  I have only ever seen a single app (Sonic the Hedgehog) that didn't scale for some reason when it first came out, but was fixed with a later update.  I have plenty of old, abandoned tower defense games that simply scale to fill the tablet's screen.
  • Compare the Android and iPad versions of Twitter, Facebook, and just about any other app and you will see what I mean. If you've never seen how much better tablet apps are on iOS, you might think Android apps are okay. And, keep in mind, the Facebook app (for one) HAS been extensively rewritten in the last 2 years, and it still sucks on tablets. It was even worse in 2011 and 2012, and only marginally improved since.
  • I see Facebook and Twitter often touted as examples in this regard.  I rarely use either, and (pretty much) never on my tablet.  Maybe you're right that all the iOS apps on an iPad look better, but I have never had any problem with the way they look on my Android tablet. What I do have a problem with is each app icon in iOS having their own zip code on a tablet.  People talk about how iOS apps are better optimized for tablets, but even iOS isn't optimized for a tablet.
  • I'd argue there is a big difference between a 7 inch tablet and a typical 5.5 inch phone, and the standard at the time was about 5 inches. Certainly enough difference to warrant some optimisation of its layout. Capacitive buttons are ok, but they don't move based on the tablets orientation. A combination of onscreen buttons in the corners, and gestures (e.g multitasking in honeycomb) still gets my vote. And while we're at it, move the notification panel back down at the bottom where you can reach it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I really liked the way the interface worked on Honeycomb, with the capacitive buttons on side and the notification panel on the other.
  • I think they should move them to the right edge in landscape, so it's like an iPad. It's easily thumbable with one hand!
  • I agree, I have list count of the number of times I have hit the home button when aiming for the space bar. Same thing applies when using my Windows phones. This is one of the advantages of hardware buttons. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Until Android apps become optimized for tablets, Im sticking with my iPad Posted via the Android Central App
  • same here. not in the market for a tablet, but hopefully this time next year they'll have more compatibility and multi window support. Posted via the Android Central App
  • "Optimized" how?
  • Hey guys, the thumbnail was a Nexus 9.
  • Does this tablet support Maxwell streaming, Tegra zone gaming and the full profile OpenGL 4.4 libraries like the SHIELD Tablet?
  • Interesting device. My big question is ... "Can a device like this allow me to toss my laptop next time I plan to upgrade"? I do docs, email, web, play som vids, and print a little. Have an Asus ultrabook now and plan to keep for a year or so. I'm interested in fully dumping this 8086 dream for good. But, am afraid of "We'll you can't really do that yet". What do y'all think?
  • Depends on if you have apps that you rely on that only run on Windows.  For the few things you mentioned, they should run great on the Pixel C (or most any other high-end Android device). Google Docs/Sheets/Slides is pretty good, and the "full" version of Word from Microsoft is now available on Android. And if you have a desktop/laptop at home, and realize you need to access something out on the go, Chrome Remote Desktop can give you remote access to your PC at home in a pinch. (Don't know if it works on Mac)
  • Got mine. Amazing screen, very well built, but heavy. Excited to get a good case so I don't have to hold well I read/watch a show. Blazing fast even well downloading tons of apps. Active listening is there. Big improvement over my 2014 galaxy note 2014. (crappy crappy battery life) and now I have to box it up and out away till Christmas. Posted via the Android Central App
  • What's up with all these bad reviews complaining about software? Google has provided developers the tools to expand their apps to bigger screens. It's their job to make them pretty. Then there's the Surface comparisons saying that it's the go to for productivity. I've used my girlfriend's surface 3. It is a big pain in the ass to use. Let's face it. Anything less than the normal 15" screen sucks for productivity.
  • But you can hook your Surface 3 up to a large screen if you need to. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I can tell you there aremillions of apps with great tablet ui, but people only care about twitter, facebook,fb messenger,instagram and Snapchat. In fact, after material design most of apps is optimized for tablet. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Those apps not having tablet specific layouts is inexhaustible, ESPECIALLY twitter. Even YouTube is rubbish on tablets (it's rubbish on phones too, but it's worse on tablets). Posted via the Android Central App
  • "Rubbish" how?  And I agree with Brane that practically all apps I use on my tablet look great.  The exception being the Facebook apps' login page, but who cares?  Really?
  • Dude, Facebook app's login page is not the only thing people use on their tablets.
  • That was my point.
  • Early days, great hardware spec's but not the software...this could be awesome in a couple of years. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's a great Android tablet, but I think it's more at home running Chrome OS since it's size and keyboard seem to best fit ChromeOS. It's kinda like the iPad Pro to me. Awesome hardware but doesn't have the software muscle to take 110% advantage of it. I mean, Android already has a bunch of apps that take advantage of all that stuff. Just felt that ChromeOS might be better fit for this tablet. Maybe my view will change, even though my iPad Pro is on its way.
  • Seems like Google couldn't decide what to run on this tablet. Maybe Ubuntu is the answer!
  • If it had multi window (floating windows), I would give this a serious look to replace my note 12.2. For me, it's my go to daily. Only use laptop for work optimised programs. I even RDP from the note when at home. Not a Sammy fan boy, but it seems that no one has a tablet that has the features the note does. Unless you crave updates.....
  • ePicness ...
  • I don't understand this 'Almost a laptop' craze. I want portable, compact tablet sometimes and I want a fully functional laptop at other times. The Nexus 7 was a great start. Bumping that device up slightly would be enough. Otherwise, we end up with a device that does either job poorly (i.e. the Nexus 10). Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's nothing to do with the tablet per se, but with apps. Why doesn't Google force the issue of apps in landscape mode? That is, tablet apps. There are several apps I'd download/use/buy if there was a tablet/landscape version. It's really a joke, and not a funny one.
  • I Want That Wallpaper :/ Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's one of the default Marshmallow wallpapers. Google and you'll find it.
  • I'm still using my Nexus 10. It's been great, and I love having a tablet sitting on my desk in the living room. I use it every day. I really need to replace the Nexus 10 though because the battery is bad now. Since I hardly pick up the tablet and leave it on a small stand while I'm using it, this seems like it would be a nice upgrade for me. I never got the Nexus 9 because I don't want a tablet smaller than 10 inches. Would this be the best Android tablet out right now? It should only get better with software updates as well.
  • Sounds like a great device so far! I definitely do find myself thinking of it as a "Nexus" tablet tough, even though I know it's technically not, and even though I understand the difference. It's a cognitive association thing around pure Android devices released by Goolgle, I suppose, and it's also a matter of timing and accompanying product rollout. So, I guess the questions are: is there a Nexus tablet in the wings then? And also, does this foretell a coming "Pixel Phone?" And what does it say about the future of the Nexus and Pixel lines more broadly? Put another way, will a) Pixel and Nexus be able to coexist in the market with corresponding phones and tablets simultaneously, b) will they divide and conquer with Pixel tabs and Nexus phones or whatnot, c) is Nexus going to be overshadowed and replaced by Pixel within a generation or two, or d) is Pixel going to be a flash in the pan that will die off with Nexus still in place? Then comes the question of which outcome do we really want, and why? I suppose, in a vacuum, I like the idea of the Pixel best as its a better direct parallel to the iPhone/iPad and the Lumia/Surface, in terms of in house software on in house hardware. I also like it better ideologically as its a true 1st party device in an ecosystem where the term 1st party has always been something of a misnomer. I guess it's just left to see how good Google is at manufacturing its own hardware, and I suppose it all depends on that. It'll also be interesting to see if the software will run any better on a device built entirely in house specifically for the software vs a device built FOR Google under the watchful, collaborative eye of Google, and still specifically for the software. I can tell you that I want one. My tax time "plan A" (contingent on how much free money I end up with) is BOTH this and a Nexus6p. But I'm at least enough of a realist to know that "my chickens haven't hatched yet" so I also have graduated tiers of "compromise" / "fallback" plans for if I don't end up as filthy rich as I think/hope I will. Obviously, "plan A" is the top tier. My second tier is a really tough choice between the Nexus 6p and the Nexus 9 ("plan B") or the Nexus 6 and the Pixel C ("plan C".) My third tier is also a choice between a Nexus 6 and a Nexus 9 ("plan D") or just a Nexus 6p and either no tablet or a dirt cheap 3rd party one like a Nextbook Ares. ("plan E"). And if I just get "F'd" at tax time, then my bottom tier will be the aptly named "plan F", which, predictably, would just be a Nexus 6 (and if I can eke out a Nextbook while I'm at it, well then grand.) So it's certainly not guaranteed that I'll get a Pixel. But I certainly hope so. I briefly owned - and loved - a Nexus 6, so I know what I'm in for there, and could definitely live with that. And I've had a chance to play around with a Nexus 9, so I have a pretty good idea about what I'd be in for there too, and think I could be pretty happy with it. I'm a little underwhelmed with the screen quality on both these devices, as well as the screen size being a little smaller than I'd like on the 9. On the 6, I am pleasantly overwhelmed in the best possible way with the screen size so that's definitely a plus. And the screens on both devices are certainly "plenty good enough", especially for as hi-res as they are. But in both cases, the new crop seems an upgrade over the old - including screen quality on both and screen size on the tablet (though I do wish the 6p were still 6" - AND I was also one of the crazies that LOVED the curved back of the 6.) Plus both of the new devices will get one more letter of Android updates than the old ones will which is just huge to me. And, there's just something to be said about being on the cutting edge of technology, and the technological zeitgeist that's just really attractive. It's more exciting, and there's a certain pride and prestige to it. Even if the older devices remain perfectly competent, capable hardware in 2016, and will continue to be supported for several more years, they're just a bit stale, outclassed, and old news. I have an iPhone6+, and while I find the differences between it and the newer iPhone6s+ to be pretty minor and not all that meaningful to me, it's still last year's model in a this year's model world. Same with my iPad Air2 and the iPad Pro, more or less. So that gnaws at me a little. Not enough to spend the kind of money required to do anything about it now. But at the very least, if I can afford to avoid the same fate on the Android side of things (which probably matters even more to me than the iOS world), then I'd at least like to do that. And besides, there seems to be a bigger difference between the 2014 and 2015 Nexus/Pixel devices than between the 2014 and 2015 Apple gear, so that makes the draw for the new even stronger! So we'll see where we are in February, I guess! :-) If anyone has any insight into the future of the Pixel and Nexus lines, I'd definitely like to know about it! Cheers!
  • What is the bottom line on the USB type C port? Can it actually be used for data transfer? Can I connect a memory stick (via type C to type A adapter) or a portable DAC (via type C to micro USB) to the Pixel C or is the port there just for charging the battery? Thanks, nbpf