Nexus 7

Verizon expects the device to be certified "shortly"

Verizon has opened the curtain a bit and explained the LTE device certification procedures a little, especially in regards to the LTE-ready Nexus 7 (2013). If you recall, users are having mixed experiences trying to get the new device registered and activated on Verizon's LTE network, leading to a bit of understandable outrage.

Verizon sent a statement late yesterday noting that the Nexus 7 was not yet certified for their network, and as such could not be activated. Today they expand on that.

The Google Nexus 7 is not yet a Verizon 4G LTE certified device, though it entered our process in August and we expect it will be certified shortly. Once the device is certified, we will work with Google to enable the device to be activated on our 4G LTE network.  

They go on to explain that they have one of the most rigorous testing procedures of any carrier, and that certified third-parties, who are actively selected by both Verizon and the device manufacturer, are hard at work.

While this answer doesn't address any issues about the C block auction rules and how they may be in violation of them, at least it's something. Like you, we're waiting to hear word from Verizon that they will be happy to take your money every month while using the new Nexus 7.

Source: Verizon


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Verizon clarifies LTE Nexus 7 certification process



What, exactly, does it take to certify a device that already was certified by the FCC, which is the authority on the spectrum that Verizon now owns and the N7 LTE operates on?

I'm dying to know.

Exactly, and Verizon wonders why they keep losing customers. Its almost like they want to run us all off.

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Well I guarantee they will when the Nexus 5 comes out. Maybe them having a negitive gain in subsribers for a few months will get them to rethink their policies if not then maybe the class action suit I see on their horizon for violating open standards of block C.

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And why would the nexus 5 do that? All the nexus devices combined might have sold 5 million and I am being generous.

That is not a blip on the radar for them

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A VZW Micro sim will work already in the LTE N7. You can take a regular LTE sim and cut it down with a sim cutter to get it to work if you already have a lte sim that works for a phone on verizon already

You seem to be doing what a lot of Android fans do: you're significantly over-estimating the impact of the Nexus program on Verizon and the impact of the overall shitty way Verizon handles avid tinkerers of Android devices. There are so few of us compared to their overall customer base it just doesn't matter all that much to them.

Sadly they are not losing subscribers. They gained almost 1 million subscriberes last quarter.

As long as people don't care about these tactics, it will continue.

That's right! This is the last straw! I'm done with them and their superior coverage (where I live, work, and travel)! Screw my grandfathered unlimited data! I'm leaving for inferior service pronto! ;p

You can have your "superior service", I'll keep my faster data and simultanious voice and data with coverage that is just as good 95% of the time. Personally, I think the only good reason to have Verizon is if you frequently travel somewhere that they are the only carrier to have coverage.

"simultanious voice and data"

Will you people stop with this, I've had this on Verizon since my first LTE device.

You're obviously a crApple iPhone luser. iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S are the ONLY 4G/LTE phones EVER sold on VZW that weren't capable of simultaneous 4G data and 2G voice. It's because Apple wouldn't spend an extra penny on their antenna design.

Apple: pay more! do less!

I believe the FCC's certification will be focused on spectrum, emissions and interference, not interoperability. They just want to make sure devices won't bleed into adjacent bands, send too strong a signal, interfere with someone's TV or make your hair fall out. Protocol is another matter - a device with a well-performing radio might could have problems communicating properly with tower computers, and that's the kind of thing Verizon is likely interested in.

I remember a story a while ago where an application called YouMail was yanked from the Play Store because of disruptions on TMobile's network. Verizon's certification is likely seeking to verify that no device firmware would cause a similar problem with their network.

Like you said isn't that the FCC's job? I think I remember reading that part of the agreement of winning that spectrum was letting devices capable of it on their network.

Yes, but the Block C rules is an administrative/legal issue that should fall outside the scope of the certification process.

LOL, no problems selling phones with crappy radios as long as the crap flows downhill - weak signal reception, for example, is a consumer problem not a carrier problem. But products that endanger their network reliability or business model would be another matter.

It likely won't have CDMA bands/licensing.

As far as we know, it's also possible it won't have the LTE band for Verizon.

It will have CDMA, as it is coming to Sprint and supports all 3 of Sprint's LTE bands. But it does not support Verizon's LTE band, so it is not coming to Verizon. See FCC Docs for the LG D820

They should have had all of this ironed out before the release of the device. Nithing pisses off a customer faster than selling them something that is unfinished. Well, except for being told to be patient in a very descrete way.

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Are you saying Google should have held up the release until Verizon got there crap together? AT&T and T-Mobile were ready to go.

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Nope, in saying that Verizon should have had their crap together before the release. They have a long history of procrastinating.

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So using your logic, when electric cars went out, all gas stations would have need to get their sh*t together too? This is nonsense.

The only thing there is to read is that Verizon blocks it for no reason. Google does what they want when they want. They surely don't call Verizon and tell them: "Yo Verizon, we're launching Nexus 7 LTE. Could you certicity whatever you need to certify before we launch it?"

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Apple would not take this crap from Verizon. So, all Android phone makers need to fix this or teach at&t and verizon a lesson.

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Complain to Verizon. Google is not taking crap from them. That's the reason they stop dealing with them

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"Does this mean there is hope for the Nexus 5 being offered for Verizon?"

The Nexus 7 LTE works with data on Verizon, but for phone call and texting, I think the device needs to be full CDMA version with CDMA 800 / 1900 bands, so no (I could be wrong, I'm not a Verizon user). Unless there will be a specific Verizon version and I don't think Google is keen on that after how Verizon screwed up the Galaxy Nexus.

That must be it. It couldn't be their unlawful, anti-competitive business practices. Those fines they have paid to the FCC and the lawsuits they have lost were just Nexus fanboys.

Keep accepting shit like this. One day, when they finally do something that bothers you, it will be too late.

Goddammit. I have to agree with Jerry and Richard in the same week?

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His post only highlights the Verizon hatred around here. If you don't like em, don't use them. For me, I get the most bang for my buck with them, so I'm not about to cut off my nose to spite my face. :D

I agree, they are the best for my uses. I was taking issue with his completely hyperbolic response to an idiotic comment.

So says the Verizon fanboy and his blind disdain for the Nexus line or any choice at all in support of being ale to get network coverage in places that he'll never go to.

I'm not a fan boy of any kind. I don't blindly support or disdain anything. I just use and support what works best for me. Also, I have a Nexus 7 (first gen) and still use it from time to time. It's an ok device, but I found the screen size a little too small for my needs. I also found that vanilla Android is too minimal for my tastes and the frequent updates made me feel like a beta tester for Google (so I froze it on 4.1.2). I've since moved on to a Note 10.1.

Anyway, I was just poking fun at the typical comments that usually ensue regarding Verizon and those with Nexus devices. That's all. Nothing malicious intended. Just a little light hearted fun. Didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers (well may be a little). :)

So you bought a Nexus 7 device and complain it is 7 inch and a Nexus? God my friend, you need to think a little further before buying stuff.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to leave for the book store. I must return a book because I don't like the title and I don't like the red cover.

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You shouldn't make so many assumptions. Just to clear the air for you; at the time I had a HTC Thunderbolt and no tablet and decided to try a Nexus device that everyone around here seems to rave about (wasn't really interested in a full size tablet at the time). That setup worked for a while until I got the Note 2. Its screen was much closer in size to the Nexus 7, so it made more and more sense to go with a full size tablet (also wanted one with an S-Pen like the Note 2). I haven't looked back since.

In the end, Nexus devices may rock for others, but I learned they're not for me; too minimal and lack many features inherent in skins such as Touchwiz, many of which can't be duplicated via third party apps. So now from time to time, I find humor in poking fun at the Nexus fan boys around here (and this sites pro-Nexus bias). ;P

Bullshit! Kiss my ass, Verizon! You give me no regrets about leaving back to AT&T this fall and buying the Nexus 5 straight from Google!

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The real truth is, they didn't want it on their network because it didn't have their logo in at least two places and a minimum of 20 bloatware apps. Oh, and tethering disabled.

Verizon: we want to put our big ugly logo on the front, back and where ever there is space.
Google: F*** off
Verizon: Alright your device needs our certification.. we will take our sweet time.

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To each his own I guess. I personally never will understand why anyone would put any tablet on a data plan with any carrier especially if they own an Android smartphone as most now have hotspot capabilities.
Thats one less added service I dont need.

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Like I've stated on other sites I hope Google pulls this same stunt with the N5 so I don't have to worry about activating the device through them and just pop my S4 sim in.

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Lol.. there won't be any nexus 5 on useless CDMA Verizon. Keep dreaming.

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The FCC should order Verizon to immediately allow customers to use their Nexus 7 tablets with the service customers pay dearly for. If Verizon fails to comply the spectrum that has net neutrality provisions in it should be seized and put out again for auction.

The FCC should also order all companies have interoperability for all devices and networks. They should also impose extra fees so the companies can charge us for those and have supreme power over anything.

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What people need to realize is that Verizon is stupidly expensive for what they offer. People need to vote with their wallets rather than words. Tmobile and Sprint will take over soon. I hope!!!

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Yeah but I like to be able to use my phone from time to time. Lol. Where I live tmo doesn't work at all. So how is Verizon stupidly expensive?

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This is a serious crock of sh**! Seriously. That is why I will activate the Nexus 7 on T-Mo rather than Verizon. I have good coverage and faster speeds on T-Mo than my Verizon LTE tablet I currently have.

"The Google Nexus 7 is not yet a Verizon 4G LTE certified device..."

Translation: "The Nexus 7 is not a Verizon-branded device and we don't make any money from its sales or subsidies, so we'll take our sweet time letting anyone use it on our spectrum."

Verizon: Hey, lets solve a problem that doesn't exist!
Customer: Why?
Verizon: To make sure we have the best network!
Customer: Um, Ok... You have the "largest" network but ATT has faster LTE...
Verizon: Nu uh....
Customer: Yeah huh....
Verizon: But we "certify" all our LTE devices.
Customer: Oh, well then, sign me up.