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Google co-founder gets a day's life out of his Android battery, and he thinks you should, too. Speaking at Google's Zeitgeist forum (alongside CEO Eric Schmidt), Page said poorly written third-party apps likely are to blame.

"I have noticed there are a few people who have phones where there is software running in the background that just sort of exhausts the battery quickly. If you are not getting a day, there is something wrong."

Schmidt -- who, like Page, also is way smarter than you -- chimed in, "The primary consumer of the battery life on these phones is the transmit/receive circuit. SO tuning that and obviously figuring out a way to not use too much of that extends your battery life."

Sho' 'nuff, Eric. Looks like somebody read our battery life tips post. [via Tech Radar]

 

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Google co-founder says bad apps to blame for poor Android battery life

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my battery drained even before i downloaded anything. so i guess the apps that comes with the phone are to blame too.

#1 battery killing app: Google Maps

Its constantly updating, running GPS, and running 3G all at the same time. It's a battery killing trifecta.

He's right that the apps are to blame and Google is the worst offender. You want to cook an egg on the back of your phone? Try the new "Navigation" form of Google maps. I think running that while you drive takes an all day battery down to about 45 minutes.

@toishac1 haha case closed.

I guess 3rd party stuff can be to blame but is he saying further then OG battery life?

I'll have to agree with Google on this one.

I have the Droid, and -tons- of apps installed, as well as overclocked with a custom ROM.

My battery lasts around 16 to 20 hours.

Usage consists of:

-About 100 received and sent text messages per day.
-Browsing web for ~30 minutes a day.
-Checking weather once or twice (if it's stormy).
-1 or 2 phone calls a day.

If I start actually talking on the phone, and watching videos or playing games, then yeah, it lasts about 4 or 5 hours at most.

But if I have that much free time, I can get to a wall or car charger.

Yeah, and the apps that are causing the battery drain on the Incredible? The HTC pre-installed ones, like the Calendar, HTC Facebook, and HTC Flickr. You know, the ones we can't uninstall?

Google, if you want to pitch the Incredible as a replacement for the Nexus One, you need to get with HTC to make sure their apps that they add to the phone don't kill the battery life. Because right now they are, and it's really making me wish I could have just gotten a Nexus One and not have had to deal with all of HTC's preinstalled stuff.

1300MAH is simply too small a battery for this device. HTC makes and sells a 1500MAH for the INC that does not require a new back cover so the fact that they shipped this with the smaller battery is really a crap move if you ask me.

Yeah just because you own the company that makes the product, that doesn't mean you know everything about it....sheesh.

I have actually found once I stopped using some of the sense programs, (Like there mail client) my battery life increased...

(I made gmail pull all my pop mail now)

So he's right, horribly written apps are to blame. :)

"I have noticed there are a few people who have phones where there is software running in the background that just sort of exhausts the battery quickly. If you are not getting a day, there is something wrong."

Kinda like Google Maps (Latitude)?

I actually agree with the guy. On my Incredible, I DO get over a day and I use the phone an average amount I'd say. The key is using the Power Control widget (that comes with the phone) and just using what you want when you need it. It really is a huge help. If I want to use an app that needs gps, just flip over the the power control widget, put gps on with a tap, then go and look at the app.

It really minimizes power usage. I'm fairly happy with my Incredible battery life.

Folks, you've got a mini-laptop in your pocket. You wouldn't leave a laptop unplugged from 6:00am to 11:00pm and expect it to last, would you? So why would you think a phone, with twice as many radios eating 5x the amount of data would last the same amount of time? It won't. It can't. Stop blaming the big bad companies who built you this brilliant device and start admitting the fault is in your own presumptuousness. When you buy a phone, buy two chargers, one for home and one for work/car. Also, buy two batteries, so you never run out of juice, and discard and replace your main battery every 6-8 months. Don't complain about cost. Don't bitch about time. You want the best, support the best, afford the upkeep and enjoy life.

As a matter of fact I do have a mini-laptop in my pocket, I have a Touch Pro. I use the hell out of it, phone calls, text messaging, internet surfing, Google Maps, Facebook, Twitter, Outlook email access. I charge the phone every other day.

Battery seems fine on that phone running 3rd party apps. The biggest draw on battery on this phone seems to be the Push Mail. I disabled Push Email and use scheduled pull instead. Otherwise I would probably be charging it every day.

Oh, and I am in line to get the Evo, so don't think I'm spamming the forum because I'm talking about a WinMo phone.

Here is the $50 solution for all Droid Incredible owners... Get the Seidio 1750mAh battery, and it will reach maximum potential after about a week of charging. I can go about a day and a half with heavy use or over two days with average use.

It's a full featured multimedia device not a phone from 2002 with monotone bleeps and clicks...

Through normal use I end the night with about 40% battery life. And that's with max screen brightness setting, and the phone constantly pulling in data from Twitter Facebook Gmail & my secondary Work email through the other app. I seriously can not complain. my N1's screen rivals my new MacBook's screen in terms of brightness and clarity and it's constantly on, working and receiving and sending data.

I got an aftermarket battery for my eris but honestly as much money as I pay for the phone and monthly I think this should have been thought of before the phones release. I shouldn't have to a better battery then what comes with the phone if it's defective or cannot handle the use they should send us one free.

That's a dangerously arrogant comment for Schmidt to make without acknowledging Google's role in the problem.

For years, Microsoft insisted (correctly) that bad 3rd party drivers were to blame for most Windows crashes. It was true, but users didn't care. Bad drivers made for a bad Windows experience, and they blamed Microsoft for that.

Android is in almost exactly the same situation: Bad apps make for a bad user experience. Users won't care WHY they only get half a day's battery life. They won't bother finding out what's behind it. They'll just get an iPhone when their contract is up.

Google MUST take ownership of the total user experience on Android. That means identifying apps that drain battery life in the background. Either flag them with a big warning label in Marketplace, or better yet, kick them out entirely.

Passing the buck and blaming outside developers for bad battery life may be accurate, but it's bad for Android's long-term health.

My Incredible works just fine. Battery life is great; I just disable all the unecessary things I don't need for the day and I get by just fine. The phone will do everything you want it to but just like life there is a price if you want it all, all the time..

Google is trying to defend it's phone but the stock apps on the phone are to blame as equally as the 3rd party apps. I think it also has to do with how the phone runs apps. It keeps certain processes and apps running in the background and I understand why but I think that is what uncessarily uses up battery life.

I also think the battery itself is to blame. I agree that a 1400 mAh battery is too little for the Moto Droid. C'mon, Motorola is to blame there. They should have realized that this type of epic phone would need more than that. Or else battery cell technology is lacking these days? Can't they fit more cells into a battery?

I'm lucky if I get 12 hours out of my stock Droid battery.

I partially agree with Larry Page's comments. However, I've notice a slight reduction in battery life after I switched over to Android 2.1 on my Samsung Moment. So I think Google has some power management things to do within Android as well.

I do think we need a wave of higher capacity batteries for all the Android phones. Even if we could squeeze an additional 3 hours of battery life, I would be so satisfied with that kind of new battery.

Google does need to take ownership of Android & make the necessary changes so that the Android experience is as stellar as any other. As soon as you start passing the buck, then it becomes like Windows. We really don't need Android to mirror anything like Windows except to eat Apple's lunch.