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So Apple's finally invented the small form factor tablet, and the iPad mini is upon us. We're sure some of you will have been tempted by Apple's latest bundle of aluminum, silicon and glass. Maybe you're having second thoughts about that Nexus 7 you've been eyeing up. Perhaps you're considering parting company with an Android tablet and taking the plunge with the Mini, or even its big brother, the fourth-gen iPad.

We're not here to judge anyone, of course, but if any of you filthy turncoats want to explain yourselves, we'll leave the comments wide open for you to do just that.

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There are 225 comments

n0obpr0 says:

I rather buy the original kindle lol

weirdia says:

Why does everybody need a tablet at all? I like having only one mobile device, and a great Android smartphone does it for me. As far as Apple products are concerned, the only time I buy them is for other people.

mulasien says:

That's great that you feel that one mobile device is enough for you. However, not everyone feels the same as you do. There are times I prefer a 10" tablet for some mobile device functions, and other times a 4.3" portable mobile device is perfect. And apparently, a whole bunch of other people feel the same way as well.

weirdia says:

True dat. I think in their presentation today Apple said they have sold 100 million ipads so far.

Gearu says:

iPad mini has a paltry 162 PPI, I've got more PPI in my little finger! huehuehue

mwara244 says:

If I received an apple tablet for free, i would just sell it and get an android device with the money. EFF Apple and their crappy business ethics.

Archienj7 says:

That's what Nexi (sp ?) are for. Kinda crappy they made a smaller tablet and not only shopped comparison pics against the Nexus but the screen isn't so "resolutionary" either and more along the lines of a mini Ipad 2. The Sheep will buy though.

samagon says:

I asked the same question before the first Asus tablet, at the price, it was worth trying. It's been around the world with me,and I'm not sure what I'd do without it now.

I'll probably get one of the iPad minis for my sister, I think she'll get a lot of use out of it.

Myself, I'm waiting for the nexus 10".

briankurtz79 says:

I have a gs3 and an og galaxy tab 10.1. My wife has a Kindle fire and an iphone 5. She liked the Kindle for the form factor but didn't like the amazon ecosystem. I can hardly blame her. I'm trying to decide between the note 10.1 and the upcoming nexus 10 but I bought her the iphone 5 and I'm probably gonna get her the ipad mini.

Btw. I rooted the Kindle with a jelly bean rom and filled it with kid games. My 2 year old loves it. First android tablet with newer software than most at 2!? Where was this shit when I was growing up?!

dtblair24 says:

I used to feel that way. But after owning a few tablets, I have come to the conclusion that they are a great addition to the arsenal. But the one thing that turned me off was the price. It was always hard to justify paying 500 bucks for a device that would not get my full attention along side my fully capable android smartphone. Thanks to amazon and Google, those ridiculous prices have come down. Can't beat paying $200-$250. Which is why I can't believe apple still wants over 300 for their mini. I understand they can do that though. Plenty of folks will probably still buy it.

Treknologist says:

Only in a moment of insanity. Since I'm quite sane at the moment, that means I'm not buying one.

gtricecakes says:

Apple did what Google did with the Nexus 7 and made them a little too late. Put more up to date hardware in both, please.

return_0 says:

Although the Tegra 3 is pretty old, it's still really good. And the iPad Mini's specs are older than the Nexus 7's.

sebianoti says:

iPad mini is iPad 2

diskoman69 says:

I'd say the Nexus 7 was right on time...especially when its specs still best the iPad mini. The only thing that's lacking is enough storage options. That appears to be something they are correcting in less than a week's time.

Magnus#AC says:

They also need to improve the horrendous FFC & include a back camera on the Nexus 7, then it will be worth buying in this day & age. As for the iPad mini, it's a total steaming POS. If I was paid I still wouldn't use It.
Currently have a work iPad forced on me just gathering dust.

mazzmoney95 says:

I agree with the FFC camera, but not with adding a back camera. I have never once had the urge to use my nexus to take a picture, even if it had a back camera. It saves money not having it.

z0phi3l says:

Hope you realize that some of us have no need whatsoever for a FFC, hell I don't even need a camera at all on any of my devices, to me and many in my Family the N7 is just about as perfect as you can get

briankurtz79 says:

As long as you realize that there are a dozen other functions for a camera than a picture. No one takes pictures with tablets, but some people do need to fax or scan documents, just as an example. Think outside the box a little

DaVince says:

I usually do that with my phone.

belogical says:

@ $329, not a chance...

still1 says:

Nexus 10 would probably cost that much. Nope No ipad or ipad mini

mog386 says:

As much as I would love that to be true, it is a ridiculous notion sir.

still1 says:

tbh, it is not ridiculous. Nexus 7 was prices at $200 to be more competitive and Google will follow the same pattern with Nexus 10.
It would be somewhere around $350 since Google will take up most of the marketing cost. it is possible.

HeCareth says:

If Acer can make a 10" for 399, Google can make one for 350.00

hmackenz says:

God I hope you guys are right! I'd gladly pick up a Nexus 10 at that price. Already planning on grabbing a 32GB N7 when it comes out :)

xKrNMBoYx says:

Does that Acer have a 2560x1600 resolution? I didn't think so.

318sugarhill says:

Exactly. Just bought a used ipad 2 for $250 and it has 32 gb. Way to high a starting price. I would like a smaller tablet, but not for that price. $250 was the sweet spot. And only 16gb? Ridiculous. Memory is cheap enough for them to start upping it. 16gb is used up in just a few movies.

DirkBelig says:

This. I was watching the live blog of the event and thinking, "If they drop this thing at $249, it's going to kill 75% of the Kindle Fire HD/Nexus 7 market in one fell swoop." Then they announced $329 and up and the danger passed.

What's really going to hurt is sales of full-size iPads. This will cannibalize more sales from people seeking to save on their status toys than entice people to spend even more than two bills for an Android-based tablet.

OceanView says:

hardware needs an update already.
I'll wait till next year to see if they update before I consider it.

brassplayer says:

Probably won't have to wait more than a few months with the way Apple is now refreshing their product lines. ;-)

still1 says:

you will have to wait 2 more years to get that.

dwd3885 says:

if it were $249, maybe.

PlatinuM195 says:

I mainly got my Nexus 7 as a throwaway cheap tablet, at $199 it was too hard to resist. My GS3 was bought off-contract at an insanely good price, these things depreciate so fast it's great to get them a few months later.

At $329 I'm not so sure how this will sell, I won't be picking one up. I don't support any platform, but I do like to get a good deal. Lets see how consumers take to this.

bp3dots says:

As someone who's manager electronics retail stores for years, it's going to sell like hotcakes. Prime time release for the holidays, at a reasonable price. (For Apple stuff) This will grab a lot of the undecided tablet buyers, and the ones who just couldn't afford an iPad. (Which was a ton of people who bought Kindle Fires last year.)

As much as we like to talk about the N7 being superior, it has nowhere near the name recognition to compete with the Mini, and I expect we'll see the numbers at the end of the holiday season that show exactly that.

Perhaps in the US, but on a global basis the N7 is doing quite well. In fact its already won T3 Gadget's tablet of the year award. Around the globe the sales of the N7 are high and people are starting the notice the difference.

bp3dots says:

Correct, I was only speaking to the US, should have mentioned that.

benthe1 says:

Yep, you should have...

SMH :-\

Magnus#AC says:

please educate your customers. There are so many phones superior to the iPhone & tablets superior to the iPad.

bp3dots says:

The best product is the one that meets that customer's needs. For many people, that will be Apple's stuff. I don't put people into something just because I prefer it, I base what they get on what they need.

Well said my friend.

dammitcubs says:

Please don't take your bias love for android and apply to a man's job where he has to suit his decisions based on the customers needs.

Sometimes, for a lot of consumers its better for them to just get an ipad.

For a more independent and more capable audience, the android suits this group well.

I wouldn't give my mom an android tablet unless it a) dirt cheap or b) it had things that she can use. I'm still better off getting her an Ipad mini.

I'm waiting to see what the nexus 10 can offer me.

I bought a Nexus 7 for my 70 year old mother. She loves it and uses it constantly. Of course she isn't doing much with it but email, facebook, calendar stuff. She is texting though through google voice which was a bit of a surprise.

It is much more useful than an ipad mini would be for her becuase I set it up nice so she has a big calendar widget, weather widget, slick little battery meter, etc, and shortcuts to everything she uses, with everything else tucked away in the app drawer.

The user interface set up like that is vastly better than an ipad mini. It really is slick.

diskoman69 says:

Well, I agree that it will sell like hotcakes, but viewing the iFans that I know it may actually cannibalize some iPad sales from its larger brethren. Portability matters. I will say this though: I am actually having more and more friends & FBF ask me about the Nexus 7. It is starting to get mindshare, so if Google does launch a "Nexus 10" with out-of-the-park specs and at-cost pricing....Apple may have a problem. There are plenty of folks now who have bought into the Android ecosystem.

HeCareth says:

I kind of disagree because some of those undecided Tablet buyers will do their research and find that the Kindle, or even the Nexus 7 does what they need it to do for a lot cheaper. We are talking a $130 dollar difference for a 16GB and a whopping $180.00 difference for the 32 GB version. Price discrepancies like that make people think twice about their purchase. If Apple had so much brand loyalty then the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7 would not have sold like they did. Apple is offering nothing but the fact it is an Apple device to justify the price premium. Yes they will sell alot but I don't think its going to make some huge dent in tablet market share like many Apple fans think it will.

movielover76 says:

True, but sad.
The ipad mini is really a horrible deal.
Hardware that is a year and a half old, with a substandard display for current tablets.
Plus they charge $130 more than competing tablets for this obsolete pos.

Sadly iSheep only look at the the outside of the package and assume since apple just released it, it's the best thing since sliced bread.
I foresee a lot of people who play games on their iPads ranting about slow performance after they've had them for a few weeks.

It's 2X slower than my iPad3 and 4X slower than the iPad4.
Even if it handles most games fairly well that are out now, it won't be long before that's not the case and I'm sure other apps and load times will be affected as well.

I already have an ipad 3 so I will not be getting an ipad 2 mini.

ayman07 says:

Why do you guys consistently post articles about iOS and Apple? Do you see Apple sites posting about Android? This is an Android site, not a general technology site. You and AndroidPolice are both doing it.

Gimik says:

Well, considering half of the ipad mini event was about the nexus 7, it seems kind of fitting.

n0obpr0 says:


ayman07 says:

Half? They made like 1 reference directly against the Nexus 7 and one about Android tablet apps. This isn't the first time either. They did the same thing when the iPhone 5 came out.

Raadius says:

Actually no, it was a couple of mins, IF that. Stop spinning shit.

blyan says:

Apple sites pretty regularly post about Android.

dextorboot says:

My guess is because Apple directly referenced an Android product during their demo.

That being said, the Apple demo made me wonder why anyone would buy the Mini over the N7. The side by side tablet app comparison wasn't really compelling. At 10 inches Apple has a case, but not at 7.

l00natic71 says:

I find the app comparison useless. What matters is the app that you need. Most apps are in both. If there is app that is a must have for you and it's only available on one, then that will dictate your choice. For me, I don't know of any app that I'm missing out by being on Android. The big ones as of late have been Instagram and Flipboard. The were on IOS before Android, but are now in both... personally, and YMMV, I have no interest in either.

Menno says:

Most apple sites do the same at major Android announcements.

DSaif says:

Apple blogs also post stuff about Android

davem2 says:

I agree 100% with ayman07.

I come to android central instead of, etc etc in order to get the hell away from news and bullshit about Apple.
Oh, and before anyone bothers to say it, take your reasoning "know your competitor" crap and shove it.
There are too many other Android sites to justify my time coming here anymore.

brendilon says:


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jackwagon06 says:

Oh man! I want that bass!!!!!! I would sell my murderface signature bass for that! When is Gibson gonna sue apple? Bwahhhh.....

randall2580 says:

Only Jerry! Terrific!

Ryandroid86 says:

I too agree. I want to know about our community... not theres. They dont give a crap about us and think android is for the poor. I dont want to hear about there terrible products or from there dumb fanboys. Let them live in false hope and forget about the terrible company and there products.


Really? You mad bro? Android Central is part of Mobile Nations. They report any- and everything that affects the mobile space. They don't just talk about Android and iOS, they've even done small pieces on WebOS, Windows Phone, and Blackberry. The editors and writers for Android Central aren't even exclusive to this site. They routinely do pieces on their sister sites. Get over yourself, bro. You should be more open to technology in general, be it from Google or Apple. Heaven and Earth won't move just because you go to another Android site, just saying.

Happy to see that rationality still exists on here.

zolttt says:

if you come to this site to get away from "bullshit about apple" why did you click on, read, and comment on.... the apple article ???

eahinrichsen says:

Apple is Android's primary competition. They only release new devices a few times a year, and each device they release competes directly against analogous Android devices. When Apple releases a new devices, it *is* Android news.

A_M says:

Stop whining, they do it because ppl see the beautiful images and click :)

Couldn't tell you cause I don't frequent fruity sites

Are you kidding me? After I bought a "new iPad" after what seems like just a couple of months ago? No way. I love my Nexus 7.

Grahaman27 says:

same... Hope its not too expensive! (also hope it has 1080p, not some ridiculous iPad wannabe res)

Gimik says:

Waiting on Nexus 10.

doz says:

No plans, at all I can safely say. But speaking of the Mini, is anyone else concerned about the (lack of) bezel on the side? I constantly tap the screen edges on my Kindle Fire when I hold it with one hand, this one looks like it'd be a disaster.

No. I could almost buy two Nexus 7s for that.

afgphlaver says:

I like the idea. I like the competition. I don't like the small bezel. I don't like the size of the (ugly) icons. I don't like the fact that there is no app drawer. I don't like the price. I like the 32GB Nexus 7, if the Samsung Nexus 10 is too pricy. I like you, Android Central, do you like me? (Borat voice)

garak0410 says:

I'll fess up...I purchased an Microsoft Surface...64GB...


You, sir, have great tastes =) I was thinking of picking one up as well.

I was considering that but went with a ASUS TF300T to keep a budget and still get performance.

israel4786 says:

How is it!!!!!!

Grahaman27 says:


djbarrios says:

I just passed from Ipad 2 to Nexus 7 and i don't regret it.

Pre-announcement I had considered it due to Android simply not having comparable tablet apps. I would not spend the money on an iPad so the iPad mini sounded like a good compromise and I generally prefer the portability. However portability is also a problem. I have barely touched my Nexus 7 because I do everything on my Galaxy S3 instead. My next phone will be bigger still. While I am open to an iPad mini to gain access to the ecosystem I think it is overpriced, notably in the UK, and I fear it will face a similar fate to the Nexus 7 I own. With that in mind it looks like I will be skipping tablets for now although I might look into a Surface Pro when it comes time to replace my laptop. /endramble

Agreed. I barely touch my Kindle Fire because I do everything on my Galaxy Nexus. My next device(s) will either be a Surface Pro (hybrids are "the next big thing" for me, where I can have portability AND be able to type as fast as I do on my laptop/desktop) and/or something like the Galaxy Note 2, with all its cool features, and the stylus.

movielover76 says:

Agreed, 7 inches is too small to really change the experience much from my 4.7 inch phone.
I do own an iPad3 and at that size it really makes a different experience.

I get for people used to 3.5 inches 7 inches is huge lol.

Jeff0918 says:

Not for $329...would rather just spend a little extra and get the 4th gen iPad.

mog386 says:

I'll fess up to the fact that I would have bought it if it had a retina display and at least the A5X @ the $329 price.

keithz says:

$369. Refurbished (but actually new) iPad 3.

That was the real news today.

blyan says:

I have the iPad 2 so I think buying a little baby one at this point would just be kind of insane. Plus I was pretty disappointed by the price point, although I do kind of understand why they did so.

alex954 says:

It's too expensive.

The only way I'm getting one is if I win the free one iMore is giving away.

Stychill says:

lol...bring on the 32gb nexus 7 please

drendroid says:

Not buying. But cannot wait to see how many people do. Someones gotta buy this icrap. But hey it just works the same exact way their old stuff does.

bassdelux15 says:

Only apple product ill ever buy is the ipod touch.

Same here - only Apple product I own is a 64GB iPod Touch - I would never waste money on any of their other overpriced overhyped products.

I'm just wondering when they're going to rebrand that as the iPad micro.

levelm says:

I'd be surprised if anyone other than an Apple zealot bought that over-priced hunk of junk.

A_M says:

Get ready then...

a1kemist says:

Way too expensive and lacking. Enjoying my Nexus 7.

richardpandy says:

I still have absolutely no use for a tablet, both android and apple tablets.

vader4633 says:

I've got my eye on the Note 2

bkbooth says:

I consider myself a bit of a tech agnostic so while my current devices are all Android, I look forward to seeing what everyone else is doing. An iPad2 in a smaller body but still sold at a ridiculous premium? No thanks, another Apple product I'm very underwhelmed by. Very happy with my Nexus 7.

hopefulfarm says:

No way. I don't own anything Apple and don't intend on wasting money to start. Way too many nice Android options.

I'm getting me a Note2.

DSaif says:

no one is buying their overpriced crap

A_M says:

And by no one you apparently mean the 100 million ppl owning just iPads...


Jacques says:

Not I. I'd rather get the Nexus 10...if I didn't already have a HP TouchPad (ported CM9) and a 7" Acer A100 already, and thinking of the $249 Chromebook. :p

Deke218 says:

Apple INVENTED what? I'll stick with my Samsung thank you very much.

A_M says:

Apple invented the concept behind the crappy device you are "enjoying".
Say thanks and move on :)


WHOA, those are fightin words!!! lol I am "enjoying" my "crappy" S3 haha

jovox says:

so apple is microsoft now?

Ryandroid86 says:

Apple finally has a screen bigger than the norm... and Im still not interested... Yawn. They should ask what consumers want and stop guessing... They are a joke.

There tablet is hardly better than the Nexus 7 at double the cost?? I dont see the point.

Grahaman27 says:

not even hardly- its slower and lower res than the nex7. better one handed operation too, thats important...

SamTime says:

iPad mini is a JOKE next to the Nexus 7. Seriously. Lower pixel density & higher price? No thanks.

juanchy says:

For $329? No thank you. Nexus 7 here I come!!

radgatt says:

IPad 3 for Christmas. Will exchange for iPad 4.

rhizon15 says:

No thank you. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 for that price. But I am holding out to see if I should buy a MS Surface tablet.

Also, good job on that filthy turncoat reference XD.

I'm going to buy two 32gb Nexus 7s for a little more than the price of one mini. No-brainer.

wdfalco says:

Waiting for the Nexus 7 32 gig all the way

Incubus123 says:

HELL no, id never get anything crApple. Will never support that company and that is all.

Jayshmay says:

No Apple products for me!!!

mzanette says:


robotaholic says:

I wouldn't buy any Apple or Microsoft product in a quadrillion years and if I was going to be killed lol

gligor_kot says:

Definitely no! How is it even worth it??

amplwp says:

Nope. Not me. Waiting for the 32GB Nexus 7 and/or the release of the Nexus 10 by Samsung and Google next week.

Some said my exact quote already but for 329 no thank you Nexus 7 here I come.

kinster02 says:

I have a Nexus 7, never owned any Apple products (nothing against them) yet and I won't start now...I will be spending my money on the Note 2.

joshua.worth says:

Nexus 7 is doing a wonderful job

Did anyone else notice that the iPad Mini's 32GB model is $429? That means for those that have kids you can buy 2 16GB Nexus 7's at $200 and still save $29.

Grahaman27 says:


Grahaman27 says:


jazman_777 says:

The thought of dealing with iTunes...shiver...nightmares.... And I don't want the shackles of the Apple walled garden.

I have a Kindle Fire. I'm thinking about a Nexus 7 to get out of Amazon's garden.

Ohioan says:

Buy last years technology for a price that would have been the norm last year? C'mon, do you see white earbuds hanging around my neck like a fashion accessory?

But people will buy them like hot cakes, and insist that they're the greatest thing ever.

Nexus 10 for $300 and you've got me hooked. (not going to happen)

If it's true that the 3rd Gen iPad with the 32 pin connector can be had for $370 (refurbished) then I will be picking up one of those.

Android has not proven that they can compete in the tablet space yet.

rkirmeier says:

Apply fanboys will flock cause it's an Apple product. They will say the PPI is fine just as the 3.5 inch screen on the iPhone was fine until their master (Apple) released an iPhone with a bigger screen. Apple fanboys are so freaking blinded it sickening. Rant over..

Personally I like thin bezels but not on a tablet. You need a place to hold the device. Sure you can hold it across the back but those with smaller hands like to hold it from one side and that simply will not work well. The PPI is also VERY disappointing and actually funny! Apple makes such a big deal out of the Retina display on the both the iphone and ipad then they release this? What a joke!

Will be interesting to see what Google has up their sleeves with the nexus 10 next Monday. I have the original Asus Transformer and still works great. Planning to pick up a Nexus 7 for the girl friend for xmas as the TouchPad (w/CM10) died recently and I need something to use at her house... :)

hmmm says:

It's not worth re-buying all my apps. Add to that the fact the nexus 7 runs pretty flawlessly and is like$100 cheaper...

campy614 says:

I understand who would buy it. This is for people who want the iPad but either a) it's too expensive, or b) it's too big.

I get it. They didn't price it competitively to compete with the rest of the 7-ish inch market-they priced it for the the people above.

Will I be buying one? Absolutely not. For 200-ish bucks I can buy a plethora of well built 7-ish inch tablets. If it were priced competitively with the rest of the 7-ish inch tablet market, I would have considered it.

aitmanga says:

I already have a 16GB 3G enabled Galaxy Tab 8.9 that cost me less than $329. And, as Amazon has also noted, 8.9" is the perfect size for a Tablet.

VDub2174 says:

I will do no such thing.

We all know Apple will try to sue anyone else that has a smaller tablet and say they invented it first.

A14dex says:

I am. I'm sick of every android tablet I have gotten. First it was the Asus TF101 which became so glitchy and slow after the ICS update. Then the Asus TF201 was good but was nothing different of the TF101 so I returned it. And now I have a Nexus 7. I hate it, I'm in high school so I need something with tons of games to keep me busy during free time. The nexus 7 doesn't deliver. The Apple iPad and iPad mini have thousands of HD 3D games, that is way more than what I found on android. Bye android hope you get better.

Grahaman27 says:

you probably would appreciate them more if you actually paid for it, boy

Yep, yep. Very true.

jovox says:

>middle of school day
>free time

neither can exist together unless you aren't doing your work

Danf says:

I don't buy Apple anything.

Don't like the patent troll and won't put in money in it's pockets.

fnair says:

No thanks... Not one dime of my money has ever, nor will ever go to Apple.

Especially not for such an underwhelming product.

A_M says:

Fortunately enough, Apple is No1 company in the world even without your dimes!
Lucky us all!

Mooem says:

I would buy it but not for myself. I'm too invested in the Android ecosystem to want an iDevice. No, I would buy this for my mom or dad who already have iPhones. My mom in particular doesn't like the bulky iPad, so I think this would suit her better than an Android tablet.

technomom says:

At $250 I might have, but not at $329.

The one reason I would consider it at a lesser price, say $250 or less, is the Amazon Video player. Amazon's video store kills Google's. Netflix is okay but it is missing a lot of the quality content that Amazon has (e.g. Game of Thrones,streamed 7 seasons of West Wing for free). I belong to both but Amazon's selection for recent television series and movies is better, especially with the Prime membership. If I had to give one up today, it would be Netflix.

But right now, to get the Amazon video store on a tablet, I have a choice of two mobile platforms - Amazon Kindle HD or an iPad. Nexus does not have Amazon video and the Chromebook looks like Amazon video doesn't play well on it either.

But the fact is that $329 is just too much for a movie player. Apple blew it big time with the pricing, and maybe the size is a bit too big. But make no mistake, this tablet will deal a bigger blow to the Nexus than it will to the Kindle.

Google has got to get a better movie/tv store before they are out of the game entirely.

Nope! 32GB Cellular Nexus tablet for me - D

Wreckus says:

I got the ipad 3 in march (or april, can't remember) and bough the samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 in September and I use the tab more than the ipad 3. I love my tab 7.0 and definitely won't be buying the ipad 3 mini. I'm glad i'm out of the apple world when it comes to books & magazines (kobo & zinio respectively).

I won't, since I just bought the "new" iPad 2 months ago which isn't so new anymore thanks to Apple.

After getting rid of my iPhone 4 for a Galaxy S3, think my next tablet will be an Android.

Awake says:

The Mini is basically a smaller version of the iPad 2.

calebt says:

Don't see any use for it really.

Jerry, you crack me up. lol :-D Loved the video!

Jotokun says:

I'll consider it if someone gets Cyanogenmod 10 running on it :)

Given Apple's history with pretty strong locked bootloaders and proprietary parts though... doubt it.

aaronwe says:

At $250 I would have seriously considered it, since the selection and quality of iPad apps are head-and-shoulders above the Android ecosystem.

At $329, I'll suffer through another year of mediocre Android tablet apps and buy a Nexus 7.

The real question is how aggressive Google goes with the Nexus 10 pricing on Monday -- $349 would be a huge "screw you" to Apple, but I'd guess $399 is more likely, with $449 if we're really unlucky or Google has a slew of amazing developers waiting in the wings.

jeffreytz says:

Not a chance, I have an iPad 3rd gen that I use every day at work, don't have a single use case for the 7.9" mini (and the pixel density is awful). I'll be skipping the 4th Gen full-size iPad as well (first iPad update I haven't bought). Hopefully by the 5th Gen they'll have removed that terrible home button (or the Android tablet apps will finally be good enough that I can go back to something like a Transformer Infinity or Padphone 2).

zl4plm says:

No Ipad Mini for you!

hybrid06339 says:

As a former owner of various Apple products (iPod, iPhone, mac mini) I have vowed that I will never, ever buy an Apple product - not a phone, not a tablet, not a laptop, not a desktop, nothing.

Jon T says:

Never. Never, ever, ever, ever. My work just gave my an iPad 3 (or the new iPad or the iPad that never existed or whatever it's called now), which I couldn't sell fast enough and buy a Galaxy Note 10.1 instead. Sorry, but neither the iPad 4 or the iPad Mini have any appeal to me whatsoever. None. Zilch. Nada. Nothing. The end.

BartmanJax says:

The fact that Apple wants to charge $100 for 16GB of memory is OUTRAGEOUS! If the iPad mini had been priced at $299, $349 and $399 for the wi-fi models, I might have taken the plunge. With Google releasing the 32GB N7 for $249, no brainer. I'll stick with Android.

Evoken says:

Not buying it, I am getting a Nexus 7 (or Nexus 10 depending on what Google announces next week).

BrianTufo says:

Even if I got a FREE iPad Mini I'd sell it and buy the rumored Nexus 10 or the 32GB Nexus 7 to replace my 16GB Nexus 7.

rmcray08 says:

no fucking way.

A_M says:

95% of you guys here are worse sheeps that the worst Apple fanboy I ve ever seen!

Raadius says:


As much as everybody on her bitch and moans about being iSheep or teamapple, its the same here. I don't get it. How are you going to hate on somebody for buying an apple product when you are sitting here saying you will buy only a Google product, lol. Corny to say the least.


Fubie says:

LMFAO. You gotta be kidding. Not a chance. Who wants a CRapple pad when there's a N7 and the upcoming N10.

Raadius says:

iPad Mini > N7

and I'm a die hard Android fan.

Google just cant get the tablet market right and NEVER will it seems. Also as Apple pointed out, they have app specific builds for the iPad, while Google has stretched out phone apps, smh.

All media outlets are saying the iPad mini build quality is beyond anything else out there, including android tabs.

maxbennettjr says:

I have no use for any Fanboy device and I have an ASUS Android pad already so no Crapple devices allowed in this household.

01011000 says:

Yeah well... iWont be buying.

This actually makes me salivate even more for that 32GB Nexus 7. And I still can't get over that stupid name... iPad? XD Just more of the same...

dancing-bass says:

I won't buy one for myself. Maybe (MAYBE!!) for my wife, but not for me, no. I'm thinking I'll see about snagging an N7 in a bit.

Then again, I wasn't above entering a contest over at iMore for a free one. See, I wouldn't mind a FREE iMini. Paying for it? No.

Because my place looks like a Best Buy, I seriously thought about purchasing this to go along with my Nexus 7, but the price tag and specs are just wrong.

I still love my iPod 4G, and not even considering the newest iPod.

studcookie says:

hahahah... no

This device makes absolutely no sense at those prices. I'm sure Apple will sell gobs of them, but I think it's a foolish purchase. This is why I own Apple stock, rather than Apple hardware.

youngzayiles says:

Ehhh I thought about it but not sure if I like the price point for whats offered.. I do think android still has a long way to go in the tablet market. Its too much like the phone interphase which I love, but on my phone. Thinking about just getting the note 2 but im torn between that and the new nexus..

LordSudsy says:

I won't even consider buying another Apple product until they stop all the pointless lawsuits. I don't want to feed their legal machine. Plus, the Nexus 7 is a better deal and a better device. IMHO..

randall2580 says:

Not in my house. I have never found Apple products worth the premium commanded.

No thank you. Happy with my Xoom and Nexus 7 for now. Will replace the Xoom with a larger form factor android tablet sometime next year but I'm good for now.

bonekeep says:

Apple can trot out third party apps that are tablet optimized for the iPad but you know what tablet apps aren't on iPad? Gmail & Google Maps, both of which are key apps for me. The rest will come, but Google apps are what will keep me with Android... that and my utter hatred of iTunes.

ridie1389 says:

I'm seeing a lot of bias here. Tsk tsk tsk you guys, (to the ones with a level head, I commend you.) The way I see it there are 2 major options from me to choose from (quite a bit more if I were to include rumored devices and/or 10-inch models). These would be: The Nexus 7 and the IPad Mini. So putting the software aside, how do these two stack up against each other? 1.2GHz Quad-Core Tegra 3 vs. A5 SoC, well I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the clock speed of the dual-core A5 is going to be somewhere around 1Ghz. Which is already a severe disadvantage compared to the Tegra 3, and note the Nexus 7 has been successfully overclocked to 2GHz. Next there is the screens of both devices: Both are IPS (please correct me if I'm wrong) and have a 1280 x 800 pixel count. Okay so how could this tie be broken? Well the Nexus 7 has a higher ppi due to it's .9" smaller screen size, so I consider that the winner. Next I look at aesthetics, and in this case, I'm giving it to the IPad Mini, I feel it is much sleeker. And then there's memory, and I feel like they both lose here since neither come with a MicroSD card slot for my 32GB Class 10 MicroSD (Thanks WP Central gor pointing out that deal for me!) but I'd have to give this round to the Nexus 7 because of the availability of the same/better memory size for a much more reasonable price. Then there's price, Nexus 7 clearly wins in that department as I'm everyone can agree with.

SOFTWARE!!!! I guess this comes down to personal preference more than anything. But I, personally, would go with Android for several reasons: 1. There is so many tweaks that allow to make the Nexus 7 perform much better without the constant jailbreak and all of that hassle. 2. I'm used to Android, its a familiar interface that will not overwhelm me. 3. I know this is one of the larger Android Tablet grievances, but I honestly dont mind apps being scaled for the most part, as I play most games on my One X. I prefer apps be scaled and have room to customize my device with widgets among other things then have it be the other way around.

I think the Nexus 7 is better and I have explained why. But I feel that so many are banking on it runs Android or its made by Apple. I just don't understand it :/

P.S. I typed this on my cyan Nokia Lumia 900 :P Bring on the hate!

masterpfa says:

Just one thing regarding resolution

"Quoted from their web page"
The iPad mini display stands out in all the right ways. It has the same 1024-by-768 resolution as iPad 2.

Compared to the Nexus 7 1280 x 800

samagon says:

The iPad mini has 3 very compelling reasons why its better.

1. Weight most of all.
2. It's thin.
3. Small bezel.

Most will disagree on the bezel, and possibly even the thinness, but weight is very important.

I still won't buy one for myself.

jian9007 says:

No for me as well. It's not because it's Apple, either. It's the fact that .9" bigger is not a big deal to me. So then the iPad mini has only 162 ppi display vs. 216 ppi on Nexus 7, $80 higher price point than a Nexus 7 16GB (which will probably be upgraded to 32GB for the same price of $249 next week), 1GHz dual-core vs. 1.3GHz quad-core in the Nexus 7, 512 RAM vs. 1GB RAM in Nexus 7, and no GPS in WiFi only model iPad mini vs. GPS in the WiFi only model Nexus 7. So no reason at all for me to buy it. Also, I don't plan on taking photos with a rear camera on a tablet like an idiot (yes, all the people holding up a huge tablet to take a photo with a rear camera that is worse than most smartphone cameras, look like idiots) and both the iPad mini and Nexus 7 have a 1.2MP FFC, so that's all I require (though I wish Nexus 7 had 2MP FFC). It's simple.

drewC says:

You forgot to mention no NFC in the iPad Mini, not that NFC is widely used at the moment. That mobile wallet thing could have really taken off if not for U.S. carriers having their own agenda. But that's a whole different topic.

If that rear facing camera on the iPad Mini is the same found in the iPhone 5, then it is a darn good one. I'd probably still not want to be seen taking photos with a tablet though. It's just awkward.

someguy01234 says:

Wow, I used to pay up to $600 for a Tegra 2 tablet when Android tablet were new, now people complains $350 is too much to pay for a 10". But I guess that a good thing prices are coming down, due to competition between Amazon and Google, which is why the iPad mini exist.

I do think one of the reason is also due to most tablets not being carrier locked or needed data plan or subsidized. I do like to see phone prices coming down too. But it doesn't look like Amazon will have a Kindle phone.

drewC says:

iPad Mini: iPad 2 in a smaller chassis. A "new" form factor "invented" by Apple. All jokes and insults aside, it's not really THAT bad. The deal breaker for me is the price and the OS. I just don't get iOS.

I'm more interested in the 32GB Nexus 7, and if there were a Nexus 10 to be unveiled on Oct 29. I'm an Android person, I guess.

SkinsFan1987 says:

Not a chance. Nothing against Apple products, but they're really not for me. I'll stick with Android, thanks.

I would consider any tablet but I can't find a spot for it because of my soon to be Note 2 and laptop. At home there's my desktop as well, so no room for the thing.

Mayze says:

No way I would even think about buying an apple product. I'm more than happy with my N7.

ryanfoley613 says:

I love my current Android Phone (GNex). After I left Blackberry many years ago I went to android and I will never, ever get an apple phone. HOWEVER...I own an iPad 3 and love it. I had a rooted kindle fire and sold it to get the iPad. Android tablets will never be able to hang with iPads until android stops blowing up the mobile apps to tablet form, WE WANT TABLET CALIBER APPS FOR TABLETS! That being said the iPad is better than every android tablet in every way, hopefully android steps it up!

AliffXL says:

Yes, I'm planning to buy the iPad mini.......

If ASUS were to release the Nexus 7 in Singapore already' I would have brought it instead.

But NOPE! ASUS keeps on teasing and teasing the thing over and over again on its Singapore website......

Eric Rossman says:

Ipad mini does not have GPS. More of the same magical "black bars" when playing movies. Forcing the new connector too... No thanks.

I'll keep my Nexus-7. Love love love my Nexus 7. Thank you Google for listening to your customers.

-much love :)

Shadowriver says:

Whats up with connector? why people start noticing diffrent connector so much after Lightning, after 10 years old the same custom conector? :p

Eric Rossman says:

The new connector only adds reversibility. Same digital functions as the previous connector. Other than that, they delete the analogue connections. That's it...

After 10+ years of getting top notch accessories based on the old iConnector, all aftermarket accessory vendors have to re-tool for the new interface. Now legacy docks need an adapter to still function, and the device will not physically mount onto the legacy dock when the adapter is used. Think of all the car docks and integrated automobile infotainment systems. Hundreds of vendors have grabbed onto the coattails of the iPod family. The only real positive thing is that the connector change will simplify compatibility development; where the next accessory developers will only to comply with iOS6 standards. This is standard "planned obsolescence" scheme from Apple. It works for them in the desktop space, it was only a matter of time.

I hope more accessory vendors push accessories with standard USB ports, allowing the customer to bring their own USB cable solution to the party.

bmbriefs says:

I was actually planning to buy this, even though I hate apple. I've always found the 7" tablets too small and the 10" tablets too big, so I thought this would be perfect. Also, I've always been jealous of Apple's ecosystem.

Unfortunately, the screen and processor are too crappy on this for me to spend that type of money on it. I'll wait to see what Google has to offer but will likely be going with he 8.9" kind fire.

jimpia17 says:

I love my Nexus 7!! No Rotten Apple for me!

keithz says:

The big news is not the iPad Mini, but the iPad 3 price cuts. I bought two and I'm keeping my N7.

The N7 is a nice, portable tablet. But for productivity, Android can't touch iPad. That's why I bought two.

munnarg says:

No thanks. My upcoming Galaxy Note II will do me just fine.

terrell88 says:

3 reasons why I can't chose the nexus 7 over the iPad regardless of price even though the nexus is the better tablet. 1 iPad has 4g options since I'm on the crippled sprint network I will need it as WiFi is not everywhere at least where I go. 2. The Google play market pales in comparison to ios as much as I hate to admit it. 3. Accessories are better and updates are on time.

eugenehj says:

Android till I die! I have a 1st Gen Transformer and will not be getting rid of it until it dies.

Raadius says:

Everybody here that says "no, ill buy an N7" or "im buying an N7" is not gonna buy one. Stop lying. You would have bought one already, and if not why does it take the competition (Apple in this case) to get off your ass to re-confess your love for a tablet made by Google... err Asus?

Like I said, you're not going to buy one, you are just picking your side... like all fanboys do.

keithz says:

I bought an N7 at launch

And today? I bought two iPad 3s.

For $329, I expect a retina display and A5X minimum.

Today's best deal was the iPad 3, not the iPad Mini.

01011000 says:

Umm... Everybody's not lying. Some, maybe, but not everybody. Personally, I AM going to get a Nexus 7 and after glancing at the iPad mini (I forgot it was even being announced yesterday), it just reaffirmed that. I wasn't impressed (and, ahem, no I'm not lying about that either). I'm in school and don't have the ends to purchase gadgets galore. (There are more important things that come first.)

And so what if it takes a competitor's product to either reaffirm you want A over B, or if the announcement of B has swayed you from A? It's called comparison shopping. Nothing wrong with that. At all. It's a win/win situation for a customer to compare company's offerings before taking the monetary plunge. Plus any yahoo knows that the imminent release of a product can drive purchases of other similar offerings.

Dude, seriously... chill out. ¬_¬

ridie1389 says:

I agree 01011000, and for the other 299 million people in the US that don't make up part of these forums, do ypu really think they care about every specific detail? I mean I do, but I'm a power user, and a lot of people aren't. So if it gets the job done, it gets the job done, for most there's not much more to it than that

ridie1389 says:

I think that is the case for some, but a 17 year-old boy like myself its just a matter of getting $200 to spend on the Nexus 7. I will be buying one as soon as I'm able to get the money for it

robocopvn says:

I will ... never buy an apple product :)) lolz. I've seen my brother as an Isheep for 4+ years get stuck with his Iphone, Ipad and MacbookPro.

I laughed, he was shy. Now is not Isheep anymore, using Sony Xepria phone haha

barondebxl says:

Im getting one probably on launch day. im a 100 % android when it comes to smartphone but with tablets, ipad is the real deal. i prevously had the Nexus 7 and i actually loved it but the ipad offers better apps ,more optimized for tablets and better battery life. plus i dont root my tablets or anything, i mainly use it for web browsing, stream and watch movies. No need to be closed minded, i love using multiple platforms instead of just one.

mkramer5004 says:

I would rather keep my nexus 7 and spend my money on some prep h.

TheNexusMan says: I'd rather spend my money on the better screen resolution, better portability, better processor, better maps, better voice search, better Google services, and CHEAPER, etc ., experience of the Nexus 7, than waste anywhere from $100 - $400 more on a lower spec'd ugly (yes, I think the wide fat shape and the dated bezel with it's home button and dated cartoony ios homescreen are ugly) hunk of "ah-lew-min-uh-mum."

dcreed says:

It's the iPod Maxi.

As far as buying one, I'd rather perform my own vasectomy without anesthetic. With a butter knife. Standing up. In a boat. On rough seas.

Doan says:

I still don't see a need for a tablet. My phone's screen is plenty large, and my phone has the hardware capabilities to run any software that a tablet runs, provided the software is available in a resolution that my phone supports.

I can only think of specific cases when one would purchase a tablet:
To watch movies on a plane, for someone who travels a lot
To keep a child entertained
Specific work/education uses

For YouTube, email, texting, web browsing, music, etc, my phone is more than capable. For full-length movies/TV episodes, I'd much rather use my laptop or TV. I think most people buy tablets as an extra toy, not because it provides better/more functionality than a phone.

ridie1389 says:

I love tablets just because of the bug screen, for some reason it makes me feel like Tony Stark 8)

runer112 says:

They missed the point of what a "Mini tablet" is supposed to be.

This can head either one of two ways:

1) Follow the trend of the remaining Apple products and sell a shit ton of units.

2) Fail to break through the glass ceiling because unlike every single Apple product, this isn't being marketed to the right market.

I don't want it to fail because if Apple fails to capitalize on a market, who knows when someone else might actually do it. At the same time, I want to see someone else claim the brass ring before Apple in a market.

CeluGeek says:

I'm not buying an iPad Mini, or an iPad 4 for that matter. My current tablet does everything I need so there's no reason for me to switch.

QMaverick says:

Hmmm...old tech (iPad 2 specs) + high price. Gee, I wonder if I'll buy one.

(in case someone missed the sarcasm, that's a big no)

Hammer9274 says:

I wouldn't buy crapple products with stolen money!

masterpfa says:


not me!

OK let me explain myself. For years I stayed away from tablets of any nature purely based on price and my needs.
With iPdas selling for what they were and then the likes of Motorola and HTC bringing out their tablets and charging in the region of £600 I said no way, especially as at the time laptops were available for around £300.

That plus I had no real need for a tablet with the smartphones I had (Nexus 1 and HTC Desire HD then GNEX)

However the game changed almost when the Kindle fire was initially released, but alas not readily available outside of the US. This was a pricepoint I was prepared to dabble at and Google picked up the gauntlet and produced not only a budget tablet but a near as fully featured one too with some high specs.

If I had been asked to recommend a tablet before the release of the Nexus 7, I would have had no qualms recommending the iPad 2 at the time or the Asus Transformer depending on the individuals ca[abilities to understand gadgets after all the iPads are not bad devices (not that I would own one)

So in answer to the OP no I am happy with my 16 gig Nexus 7 and at the rumoured price may even consider getting a 32g model. I prefer my Hi Res screen, poketability and practicality of the Nexus 7.

BruhMan says:

Galaxy Note 10.1 Destroys All!

Robbzilla says:

I might get one for my wife. She has an original iPad, and would love this thing for portability (Read: Smaller purse)issues. But I'm also trying to sell her on the Nexus 7. It'll all boil down to how well she likes Doubletwist, since she actually (cringe) enjoys iTunes.

AppHunter says:


xKrNMBoYx says: expensive for me and compared to competition. I know that Apple charges premiums so they can get a lot of profit like the business ideals they began with, but I don't see that premium idea applying as well with this iPad Mini.

I don't like Apple's reasoning of pricing it here either. "People bought are $399 iPad that is roughly 2x the price of a competitor over any other tablet, so $329 shouldn't be a problem."

The tablets are a total different form factor/size so the pricing should have no relation to their 9.7" models. The iPad Mini has a smaller screen, lower resolution (ppi), a SoC that is inferior compared to the A5X,A6,A6X. The price doesn't fit between the iPod Touch 5th Gen and the iPads. iPad Mini is only $70 cheaper then the cheapest iPad at this price. Why would someone who worries about the internal specs more then size buy it over the 10"

Even though there are a few or several people believe that the Mini is overpriced, thousands and maybe millions will purchase this. Why? 7-8" form factor is very comfortable and much more mobile compared to 10." It's Apple, has it's ecosystem,design,and the dumb explanation Apple makes that the new people to the tablet world will believe like vulnerable children.

IMO I think the physical design of the mini is ugly. People called the iPad an oversized iPhone, but this mini really looks like an oversized iPhone/iPod Touch.

Why? Buy it and a "newer, better" model comes out. Look how many times the original buyers have been insulted. How embarrassed are those with iphone 1's and ipad 1's?

Besides that, the constant updating with itunes is absolutely frustrating! Oh and we have to update that phone or tablet with itunes. :(

To think that someone in Japan got caught with malicious hype and sold his kidney for a new ipad, which will quickly become obsolete. And in a few years, there probably will be nothing left of him.

PieSkizzle says:

To be completely honest, I'm probably going to buy a Windows 8 Tablet. I feel like it would be more useful for school

Lil Jaye says:

No way.. The thought of dealing with itunes again makes me nauseated. I had a ipad for a whole 4 days a few weeks ago and I took it back to the store and never looked back. I love my nexus 7 16gb.. I will be buying the nexus 7 32gb when it comes out though. I also have a aser iconia pad but it is a 10 inch and harder to hold comfortably. I have tiny hands and the nexus 7 is perfect to hold on to for me.

RaiderWill says:

I Did.

And I Absolutely Love It!!!

The Nexus 10 is a DISMAL FAILURE..

rrasho24 says:

You guys have really kicked out up a notch with all of these contests! Thank you ^_^

markost says:

the ipad mini retina is good but too expensive, so I prefer the nexus 7