The quick take
It's easy when reviewing a device to get distracted by what the product could have been, or what it maybe was supposed to have been, rather than what it actually is. And that distraction is even more apparent when it comes to the Google Pixel C, a beautiful but heavy 10-inch Android tablet that almost certainly isn't yet living up to its full potential.
- A large, beautiful display
- Excellent build quality
- Impressive (optional) keyboards
- Nexus-like promises of software updates
- It's heavy
- And the keyboards make it heavier (and thicker)
- A good bit of wonk in Android on this platform
- Too many apps don't play nice with landscape orientation
Google's Andrew Bowers, introducing the Pixel C at the 2015 Nexus event in San Francisco.
Pixel C Full Review
Eight minutes of stage time was all the Pixel C got at Google's Nexus event in late September in San Francisco. And the brief hands-on time we got afterward confirmed a few things and left any number of other questions unanswered.
First, coming from a year of the Nexus 9, this new tablet was both bigger and chunkier. Definitely heavier. And anodized aluminum is très chic. But from a user perspective, what was new? We'd been running the Marshmallow developer previews just fine on the Nexus 9. And we've used optional keyboards on tablets before. Did Google really want to make its own tablet just to do it? What would NVIDIA's powerful Tegra X1 processor and GPU (so ... many ... cores) bring to the table?
And a strange 1:√2 aspect ratio that's the same as a sheet of paper (that's 1 to the square root of 2, and you're forgiven for not knowing that before the Pixel C, too), giving you the same aspect ratio if you cut it in half, which would make sense for the multi-window feature hidden inside the first M preview build earlier in the summer and removed in the second preview.
The Pixel C is now available, starting at $499 for the 32-gigabyte level of storage. There are a couple $149 keyboards (which also serve as the only official protective cases) available for it as well.
And this is our full Pixel C review.
- 10.2-inch LTPS LCD display
- 2560 x 1800 resolution
- 8MP rear camera
- 2MP front-facing camera
- 34.2 Wh (9243 mAh @ 3.7V)
- 15W USB Type-C adapter
- NVIDIA Tegra X1
- Maxwell GPU
- 3GB RAM
- Wifi 802.11ac
- 2x2 MIMO, dual-band
- 32/64GB internal storage
About this review
We've been using a retail Pixel C for the past 10 days. It's a 64-gigabyte version as purchased from the Google Store. It's running Android 6.0.1, on build MXB48J, and installed a 58-megabyte update immediately after we turned it on. (There's another build — MXB48K — available as a factory image, but as yet we're unsure what's different.)
We've used the Pixel C with the Pixel C Keyboard (the anodized aluminum one) as well as with the leather Keyboard Folio.
Pixel C Video Review
Pixel C Hardware
The Pixel C is gorgeous. It's an obvious companion to the Chromebook Pixel (as if the name didn't make that obvious enough) with a single piece of anodized aluminum serving as the shell. The Pixel C isn't all that curvy — nearly flat until you just about get to the edges — and it's maybe not quite as nice to hold as other tablets that round off a little sooner. And the aluminum doesn't do anything to help with grip, so you'll be hanging onto the edges a good bit.
But, damn, it looks nice.
This is also one of those "sideways" tablets. It's certainly not the first, but it's the first from Google since the 2012 Nexus 10 to push the "landscape" orientation by default. You know that from the placement of the front-facing camera, of course, as well as the rear LED — and the Google logo when you first boot the thing.
The large display — again, 10.2 inches diagonally — might be a little bit taller (or wider, if you're holding the thing sideways) than you're used to thanks to that 1:√2 aspect ratio. Google was quick to tell us at the launch event that a sheet of A4 paper (otherwise just known as "a sheet of paper") has the same aspect ratio. And that if you cut the display in half, you end up with ... two halves in that same 1:√2 aspect ratio. And that would be important if the Pixel C yet had any sort of functionality that makes use of the display in some sort of multiwindow mode. And it almost certainly will at some point. But today It's just an odd spec.
The display itself, however, is very impressive. The sheer number of pixels — some 4.6 million of them at 2560x1800 — has something to do with that. So does the 500 nits of brightness. The display temperature is a little less blue that what's on the Nexus 9, but it's also not quite as washed out. That is, colors are more prominent.
Speakers & buttons
The speakers on either end (or top or bottom, if you're holding the tablet sideways) do a nice job of directing sound toward the front, and not just laterally. But they're a bit tinny, lacking the depth we've enjoyed in other tablets. (They're specifically not as bassy as the Nexus 9.) And on occasion I've found myself covering one or both of them when my hands when gaming. It depends on what I'm playing and how I'm holding the tablet, but it happens.
The USB-C port and 3.5mm headphone jack are on opposite corners, with the former smartly closest to the desk or table or whatever you have the Pixel C resting when it's connected to one of its keyboards. That means you can plug in to charge without having the cable dangling through the air. Smart. (Or course if you need to plug in an audio cable, it'll be dangling quite a bit from the top right.)
The horizontal orientation also does a decent job keeping you away from the warm spots while gaming. It depends on how high you're holding the tablet, but generally speaking your hands will be low enough to avoid the worst of it on the left-hand side.
The overall hardware experience of the tablet itself is a mostly a good one. I've not had too much of a problem using the Pixel C in landscape. It's when I switch over to portrait — that is, vertical, and something you'll still have to do a lot — that the Pixel C starts to feel too big. (Too wide, in that orientation.) It's not unusable, just not all that comfortable for me.
A larger issue for me (and this is one that I'm trying to get used to but am still struggling with) is the weight. The Pixel C itself weighs 517 grams — that's 1.13 pounds. That's about 21 percent heavier than the Nexus 9, but it's definitely getting up there, particularly when you take the keyboards into account.
Pixel C Internals
The Pixel C is packing the NVIDIA Tegra X1 "Super Chip." The ARM CPU itself is octa-core, with four low-power A57 cores, and four high-power A53 cores. The standout feature, though, is the 256-core Maxwell graphics processor. (For those into GPUs, yes, that's desktop-class stuff we're talking about.)
What's that mean for real-world use? Depends on what you're doing. Or trying to do. Jumping through the usual Android menus and home screens isn't 10x faster or anything. (If anything, actually, we're seeing occasional little hiccups, as if things aren't quite dialed in. More on that in our software section.) As far as running apps goes, the Pixel C has handled everything we've thrown at it as quickly as we'd expect.
Apps (and games is where you're more likely to run into this) that have been optimized for the Tegra platform may well have improved graphics. This was subtle but apparent when playing Vainglory on the Nexus 9 and then switching to the Pixel C. The changes aren't huge, but they are noticeable. (Whether you'll notice while playing is another matter, but better is always better.)
Consider these Vainglory screenshots. That's the Pixel C on the left, Nexus 9 on the right. There are subtle differences in the "Item Shop" tent, as well as the flames, and details on the ground.
Interesting, though, is that NVIDIA tells us the improved detail is simply a matter of increased resolution, and isn't inherent of Tegra X1 having more cores than Tegra K1 in the Nexus 9.
Battery life & charging
As for battery life, the Pixel C sports a 34.2 Watt-hour battery. (That's about 9,200 mAh if you don't mind some rough conversion.) Either way it's a big battery. By comparison, the larger iPad Pro has a 38.5 watt-hour battery. A 90-minute showing of "Inside Out" at 50 percent brightness killed 17 percentage points. During our testing time we generally were recharging every day and a half or so. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on how hard we were pushing things.
But that's where the good news comes in. The Pixel C comes with a 15-watt USB-C charger and goes from 15 percent to full in about 2.5 hours, which isn't bad at all considering how much juice you're pumping in there.
Another fun thing is that the Pixel C can serve as a sort of emergency charger for other devices. We plugged a Nexus 5X directly into the Pixel C and after 30 minutes the Pixel C dropped 4 percentage points, and the 5X gained 6 percentage points. That's not anything we'd want to have to rely on, but it's a neat trick.
And finally, the LED on the back of the Pixel C — in addition to being fancy and flashing the Google colors — also serves as a way to see the battery charge without actually turning on the display. Just tap the light bar a couple times (or more, as it frequently doesn't work on the first try) and it'll show the charge level in yellow.
The Pixel C Keyboards
There are two official keyboards available for the Pixel C at the time of this writing. The simpler of the two is the eponymous "Pixel C Keyboard." It's done in the same anodized aluminum as the tablet and has four rubber feet on its back, for keeping everything in place while typing.
The Pixel C Keyboard
And as far as tablet keyboards go, this one is really slick. As in neat. It takes advantage of six magnets built into the Pixel C to affix itself three ways. There's the standard "Hey, look, this is almost a laptop" configuration wherein the bottom couple of inches of the tablet stick to the top couple inches of the keyboard, which then hinges from 100 degrees to 135 degrees of viewing. You also can face the display against the keys when not in use to keep everything nice and protected — again, with the strong magnets holding things in place. Or you can affix the back of the tablet to the keyboard side of things to make a tablet that's 78 percent thicker and 77 percent heavier.
That's not to say this keyboard isn't good. Because it is. It's got the same build quality as the tablet itself. It's a great way to prop up the tablet on a desk or table. The 35-degrees of travel make for great viewing angles. (Though it is a bit bouncy when you poke at it.) And we can't say enough about how well the magnetic locking mechanisms work in all three positions.
But for as well as those magnets work, and as cool as they are, we do have some real concerns about the idea of sliding something across the Pixel C's display over and over again. Because that's how you get the two halves apart. You slide one to the side, then pry it off. All it takes is one grain of sand to start gouging away at the screen.
And that's exactly what's happened to ours.
The scratches are small. But they're apparent. And if we keep sliding the keyboard on and off like we have to do without making sure it's 100 percent grit-free, we're going to be in real trouble. Or at least our Pixel C will be.
Really, what we want to see is some sort of cover like what's available for the Nexus 9. It's thin, light, magnetic and — most important — doesn't come with a very good chance of scratching the display. If having a keyboard means risking scratches, we'll look elsewhere, thank you very much.
The Pixel C Folio Keyboard
The leather-clad Folio Keyboard changes things up a bit with a hard rear shell and magnets of its own (with a slot for the Pixel C's LED to shine through). It's got just two angles for viewing — 127 degrees and 146 degrees. And it's not a bad option at all, though it does add a couple extra millimeters to the overall thickness and more than doubles the tablet's original girth to 14.15mm. Weight is just shy of the metal keyboard, at a total 908 grams, including the Pixel C itself.
And at this point it's the probably the option we'd recommend. Again, it's thicker than the metal keyboard cover and adds a good bit of weight, but there's virtually no chance that it'll damage your screen. It's also a little easier to remove the Pixel C from the Folio Keyboard, which you're going to have to do fairly regularly given that there are so many apps that don't play nicely in landscape.
And that brings us to our only real physical issue with the keyboards in particular, and the Pixel C overall. The keyboards do what they do really well. The keys have great travel to them, the nearly 19 mm pitch (the distance from the center of one key to the next) is adequate, and the magnets keep everything smartly in place. And the inductive charging is a neat trick — the tablet charges the keyboards when closed and not in use. That's brilliant. And because of it I've yet had to worry once about whether the keyboard was charged. (Though Google says it'll last for upwards of a month in any event.
But the Pixel C and keyboard (pick your poison, either the metal or folio option) is just too heavy (and/or thick) for me to justify carrying around, mostly because the software isn't up to snuff yet. And that includes some pretty serious disconnect issues, and a general inability for the keyboard to keep up with what we're typing, both of which probably fall on the Bluetooth stack. If and when Android is updated with multiwindow and other features to take advantage of a semi-permanent keyboard, our tune may change. But for now there's just not enough incentive to justify lugging either one around, which is a shame.
.@philnickinson has keyboard issues, ex. 1: pic.twitter.com/K71ii0YpzJ.@philnickinson has keyboard issues, ex. 1: pic.twitter.com/K71ii0YpzJ— Andrew Martonik (@andrewmartonik) December 21, 2015December 21, 2015
Pixel C Software
The Pixel C as we're reviewing it is running Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow, nearly identical to the Android 6.0.1 we're enjoying on Nexus phones and tablets.
The biggest difference is that the home, back and recent apps buttons have been split, with the first two on the left-hand side of the screen, and the last on the right. It takes a little getting used to, and isn't a huge change in any case. I think I might prefer the home button in the middle so that it's easier to get to from either hand. But, again, not a huge deal.
Other than a few other little odds and ends — trusted devices can't be used for Smart Lock, for some reason, and there are hooks for the keyboards to be automatically detected — this is stock Android as it is on any other tablet.
And, well, that's pretty much it for Android on the Pixel C.
That is, except for all the app wonk.
There are a couple areas of concern here. One of them is Android itself. It generally runs OK on the Pixel C, but only just so. We've had sporadic hangups and general unresponsiveness, almost like something (or too much?) was going on in the background. That's not the sort of thing you'd expect from a tablet with the perceived power of the Tegra X1 platform. (Scuttlebutt is that because more work is offloaded to the GPU cores than the application processors, things might not yet be completely optimized for this platform.)
The bigger problem, though, is apps. Remember that the "preferred" orientation for the Pixel C is landscape. Sideways. But many apps either aren't really designed for use in landscape — or simply don't work at all in that orientation. And we're not just talking about fringe apps here.
If you're a fan of Instagram on a tablet, you'll be going back to vertical. And that means no using it while connected to the keyboard. That's the case for any number of apps. And it's also a best-case scenario when it comes to things not working. Other apps are much worse.
Popular chat service Slack forces a vertical orientation when you're logging in — which can span a number of screens before you're finally logged in and then are able to use it in landscape. Though it's not really optimized for that, either.
More: Read our Android 6.0 Marshmallow review
Then there's Facebook, which actually has a decent horizontal layout these days. Until you start viewing images and it forces you into portrait — which in the case of the Pixel C either means rotating the tablet in your hands, again a nonstarter if you've got one of the keyboards attached.
I use Relay for Reddit to get my daily dose of cat gifs. But I can only use it in landscape, because anything with motion — videos, gifs, whatever — are broken in portrait. (And only on the Pixel C.)
So the problem is twofold. We've got a tablet that prefers to be in the landscape orientation (and must be when used with the keyboard), and apps that either don't work in landscape because they were designed that way, or don't work in landscape because the developer doesn't care to design them that way. (Or, worse, works great in landscape for many things but forces you into portrait for others.)
Should every app be able to work horizontally? In a perfect world — and particularly on a tablet as big as the Pixel C — yes. Maybe an app presented vertically (all letterboxed to hell) in landscape isn't ideal, but it's better than not being able to use the Pixel C in its intended orientation at all. If the developers aren't going to do something about this on their own, Google's going to need to step in and some up with some wort of workaround. Because in any event this isn't a great experience for those of us this side of the Pixel C screen and keyboard.
Pixel C Other odds and ends
So for the most part we're looking at a pretty standard Android tablet here. A powerful one, no doubt, and one that's very nicely designed. But also not one with anything out of the ordinary.
That is until you get to a few things that are missing.
For one, there's no GPS on this tablet. That's not to say it can't find location by other means, but just know that if you have to have proper GPS on a tablet (the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and Nexus 9 both have it), this isn't he one for you. Same goes for NFC. There's no near-field communication on the Pixel C.
Pixel C Cameras
We've seen smartphone manufacturers place extra emphasis on the front-facing cameras for smartphones, for the "Ultimate Selfie Phone" or whatever. And we've never quite figured out why tablet manufacturers haven't done the same thing. (Internal space may be a valid reason.) But for all the "productivity" talk that gets tossed around with a product like the Pixel C, the idea of video chat seems to get the short end of the stick — at least in terms of megapixels.
The Pixel C has an 8-megapixel camera on the back side — we'll call this the secondary camera because no one in their right mind should use this as their main shooter (see the picture above if you need more explanation)— and a 2-megapixel camera on the front. Neither is particularly impressive.
Pixel C The bottom line
As a tablet and only a tablet, the Pixel C isn't bad at all. In fact, it's good. Very good. It's a little big and maybe not as friendly to hold as other offerings, but then again we've said that about other tablet lines as they've increased in size. And there's no denying the gorgeous display, Nexus-like software experience (warts and all) and the speedier charging.
But for as good as the optional keyboards are physically, the actual experience of using a keyboard with Android hasn't really improved any. Some of that has to do with the Android operating system itself. But mostly it has to do with too many applications not being properly coded to run the landscape orientation — to say nothing of them being properly designed for it.
That will, in all likelihood, change at some point. Google's Pixel team has alluded to that in a Reddit AMA. But the question is when the Pixel C will gain software that better makes use of its multiwindow-friendly aspect ratio. (And whether the Pixel C's $499 starting price will go down before then.)
But for now, the Pixel C is more about potential than it is progress.
Should you buy the Pixel C?Not yet, if you can help it
There's a lot to like about the Pixel C. An awful lot. But aside from the keyboard experience it doesn't yet bring anything to the table (or to the tablet, for that matter) that you can't get in the cheaper and more mobile Nexus 9. The top-end Nexus 9 is currently going to for what you'll pay for a base-model Pixel C, and both have nearly identical software experiences. And the Nexus 9 has a proper cover available for it, and not just the far more bulky (and expensive) keyboard covers. (The Nexus 9 also has an LTE-capable version available, still for less than what you'll pay for the Pixel C.)
We have a feeling the Pixel C will grow into itself at some point. And it's not like it's a bad tablet. If you've got to have a keyboard with your Android experience, or if you just have to have the latest Android tablet and have some extra money to burn, this is the one to get. But if you're on the fence or just don't need a new tablet just yet, we'd wait.
Pixel C Where to buy it
As of the writing of this review, the Google Store remains the only place you can purchase the Pixel C in the U.S.
I'm a fan of the Surface tablets, but this is nice. The keyboard makes it a bit pricey. I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup
The price didn't bother me as much as the wonk.
My thinking is that you get more productivity out of a Surface tablet. I'm not knocking the Pixel, but for what most average consumers use a tablet for I think that other options are there. I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup
Between the iPad pro, Surface and Pixel C, Google's take on the keyboard is the best since it gives a good keyboard base along with multiple angles (Love the magnet). Though it would have been nicer if it was little bigger and the software and apps were mature enough to handle the tablet form factor. Overall it's a nice complementary device for my smartphone and laptop. Yes it's expensive and wouldn't recommend to most people as of now, but has lot of promise for the future. Posted via the Android Central App
Promise it has, but I think a full Windows tablet is nothing to scoff at. I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup
I don't know, I love the Surface Type Cover. It actually connects directly to your Surface instead of Bluetooth or any wireless connection so you don't have to mess around with that, and you get a more reliable connection. You also get a trackpad which is actually really quite good with the latest Type Cover (with the option of an integrated fingerprint scanner if you pay a bit extra). Then you get a choice of a bunch of colors, and all-in-all a pretty decent keyboard.
Then you have to remember, it's connected to a Surface tablet. Which is just even better.
I want one!! But I have a tab S 10.5 running Pacman 5.1.1. Liking that as much as my N6
Yeah, these are still very different devices in that respect. (And I think Microsoft's done REALLY well on the Surface line.)
I use my SP4 (and SP2 prior) for every single class. It is the ultimate machine as far as performance and portability is concerned, in my opinion. Posted via the Android Central App
Oh there's nothing wrong with the Surface 3, I should have expanded my statement and said ALL surface devices, instead of just the SP4. They're all fantastic devices. Posted via the Android Central App
How's your Surface Pro 4? Microsoft has been working hard to sort out the maturing kinks.
Still really cool to see companies trying different ideas.
The Surface 3 would be a good device if the Windows Store had apps. Slowly, it is improving but you're better off with the iPad or Pixel C for apps.
Maybe the Surface Pro 3. The Surface 3 is barely useable as a productivity device.
The Surface 3 is still running full 64-bit Windows 10, and it's not underpowered. It can handle most of what you throw at it as long as you're not thinking to play GTA V on it, or video editing.
I really really wanted to like the Surface 3, but in comparison to other offerings I could just never make it work. Glad you could.
Are you asking me what it can run? Anything that doesn't require a dedicated GPU or a high-powered CPU. For ninety percent of users the Surface 3 is enough (as long as you get the 4 GB version).
It's not for everyone. Some people just need a dedicated laptop and some people just need a dedicated tablet. I often find myself in situations where a hybrid tablet would be the best possible solution, though.
Why? Surface 3 runs Windows 10, so just install any x86 application you like. No need for an app store. Personally, I have had the Surface RT, Surface 2, Surface Pro 3 (which replaced my aging desktop PC) and now, a Surface Book (with gpu). I still love my android phones tho and currently rock a Moto X 2014. The Pixel C is one dang interesting device -- a bit late to compete for productivity, I think, though. I might have wanted one back when I was switching from android tab to android tab still looking for a perfect blend of size, weight, and performance (Viewsonic G-Tab, TF101, Samsung Note 10.1 (1st gen), Samsung Note 8... which in the end, I ditched for the Surface RT. Basically, the Surface line killed android tablets for me, especially once the Pro 3 was introduced.
Those people do not understand the beauty of a quick Google/Bing search.
Full Windows doesn't help when the Kindle app sucks and the Comixology app is no longer available. Posted via the Android Central App
Only proves that no tablet or mobile os is primetime for true productivity. Glad to see Phil understands the difference between Android being good for tablets and the lack of tablet optimized apps. Good review Phil.
We're going to have more thoughts on "productivity" soon.
I am productive every time I double tap an Instagram photo, right?
So I bought one of these and had to RMA it already unfortunately.. There seems to be a lot of users out there with either slow Wi-Fi download speeds and/or wonky touchscreen issues. Have you experienced any of this during your review? Is that what you refer to when mentioning "general unresponsiveness" as in physical, touchscreen unresponsiveness or mostly apps not responding?
I've had problems with it just randomly disconnecting from WiFi Posted via the Android Central App
I've been keeping an eye on that thread in our forums. I think — and this is unscientific — that maybe it struggles more than other devices as signal decreases. Lot of variables in there, though.
It could be lots of things. Or combinations of things. Or one thing. Or nothing. Could be software. We just don't really know yet, and I'd hesitate to speculate.
Dammit, Phil - stop being so level-headed!
Thanks for keeping an eye on it! Google has until Jan 22nd (end of return window) for a fix on the wifi and touchscreen issue. I hope it is software for both.
I appreciate the effort and thought that went into this. But this is a solution in search of a problem. Or more accurately, a tablet in search of an app ecosystem to support it.
I think you're close — it's a tablet in search of the software that's still being built for it.
I mean, maybe on Google's end but that is only part of the equation. Unless devs update their apps to at least play nice with portrait mode (ideally we'd get true tablet versions) then it's going to be a half baked experience for the end user. Android tablets have been on the scene for years and the app situation seems largely unchanged, why would it start changing now? Posted via the Android Central App
The nexus 10 pushed landscape by default as well. Not sure why they said it's the first for landscape by default Posted via the Android Central App
That's true. Three years ago. I've clarified that sentence.
Phil doesn't the Pixel C only have 3gb RAM vice the 4 you have listed? Posted via the Android Central App
Good catch. Fixed. Thanks!
I already have a sp3, otherwise I would look into one of these. Posted via the Android Central App
Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that the industry is just now realizing that "tablety" tablets are useless and we really just wanted lighter laptops with touchscreens all along?
Yeah, except for the Surface Pro, which I own and love. :) I'm just commenting on how the form factor that took the world by storm with the iPad is now not the coolest thing, and we now have "hybrid" devices that are essentially just touchscreen laptops making a comeback.
I think Microsoft built their own market with the Surface line. It took a few iterations, and there a few missteps along the way, but now the Surface line has created their own form factor and market, and any manufacturer worth their salt is trying to get in on it. I think the form factor of the Surface Pro is different to the iPad, precisely because they target entirely different segments of the market. And then came the iPad Pro, an "amazingly ingenious" device that completely blows everything else away. Or so Apple is desperately trying to convince people.
I prefer a separate laptop and smaller tablet ... MacBook/Chromebook with iPad mini works for me. Never been a fan of hybrids and hate the added weight on touch screen laptops. Posted via the Android Central App
The tablet is 2560 x 1800, not 2560 x 1440.
1440p is 16:9; this tablet is not 16:9.
Yep. Not sure what happened there. Fixed. Thx.
Hey Phil there's an app called set orientation on the play store which is free BTW. It will basically fix the rotation issues with app as this app forces it in all orientation. It works great until google/devs sort it out. Posted via the Android Central App
I'm probably in the target buyer group for this, but I recently replaced my Nexus 7 2013 with an Asus Chromebook Flip, and I couldn't be happier. I do wish that the Flip ran more Android apps elegantly, but for what I use it for - Note Taking, Kindle Reading, Airplane and Bed Movie Watching, Light Game Playing, and Remoting into Widows and Linux Machines - the Flip is ideal. It's well constructed with Aluminum, has a great touch screen (lesser video quality than this Pixel C, but definitely OK), is lightweight, has a very usable keyboard, and very flexible. Also, it is $380 or less. Between my 6P and the Chromebook Flip, this is a killer combination of mobile gear for me.
I've heard alot of the same complaints and concerns about this device. This was a thorough and honest review and I enjoyed the read. Posted via the Android Central App
About the highest praise I could ask for. :)
I've had my Pixel C since it first came out and I love it, but sometimes I feel like I'm forcing myself to love it. It is awkwardly heavy at times, especially in portrait, and the aluminum back can get pretty warm during gaming. I would love it if I could get the same internals and build quality but in the exact dimensions as my N9. Posted via the Android Central App
This may be dificukt to answer but how does it compare in getting hot to the nexus 9. My nexus 9 gets pretty hot when gaming or chrome browsing
The problem with landscape apps is indicative of how big the tablet software problem is. If app developers (I'm looking at instagram in particular) don't even bother making their phone app WORK in landscape, much less look good in that orientation, there's little hope of an proper tablet app either. Google isn't exactly leading by example with it's apps either. Posted via the Android Central App
"The top-end Nexus 9 is currently going for what you'll pay for a base-model Pixel C." Actually you can get an N9 for far less. HTC is selling them for 40% off through 12/31. I just bought one to replace a 2013 N7. At that price, it's a fantastic device.
Wrong its 399$ on HTC.com Posted via the Android Central App
If you Google HTC, the first link shows Nexus 9 40% off. Click that. Posted via the Android Central App
I think a beautiful display should be standard on all devices. Posted via the Android Central App
I just returned the Pixel C and ordered a Surface 3, given the $100 device and $50 keyboard discount, think I'll make more use of it. Shame though having been waiting for this since the announcement. It'll be nice to try something different for a change, at least I hope so.
Doesn't appear the keyboard is backlit; not sure why that wasn't discussed in the review as it is kind of a feature one would be looking for in a good keyboard experience - even Dell's similar Venue 10 7000 has a backlit kb. Pretty disappointing at this price point. And no GPS or NFC. WTH is Google thinking with this thing?
It also doesn't make waffles. :)
Are there any screen protectors available for the Pixel C? If I were to get it, I'd want to protect the screen from scratches. Posted from my Moto X Pure Edition via the Android Central App
I'm spending my money on the surface book to replace my aging samsung chronos 7 laptop. I already have 2 samsung tablets to use if i wish but the "book" seems to fit all my needs. The scratching of the screen using the keyboard is poor engineering on the pixel c. Posted via the Android Central App
1) I would have loved the (metal) keyboard to have a row of function keys.
(I do have a Rapoo E6700 keyboard. It has this extra row and a touchpad. The keys are smaller, though, but it's a "desktop" type keyboard, apparently primarily for Windows.) 2) I ordered a USB-C to -A adapter cable. Using this and a gender changer, I was unable to access a USB-stick. (So this adapter cable is not On The Go?) 3) Actually, I'm a bit worried by this use of strong magnets with the Pixel C, Surface Pro 3 and iPad Pro. (I have all three.) I just hope that they won't interfere with storage, NFC or security on the road.
Other than weak wifi issue compare to other devices at farther distance and android in general needs work for tablets, I'm pretty happy with the device.
Some apps just aren't meant to use landscape mode (though it always should be an option). Tetris Blitz is one such example.
Right. I think that's maybe where it falls on Google to provide a fallback option in the OS itself, though. Perhaps not ideal, but it'd be something.
This could be a whole different discussion if when Google merges Chrome and Android and updates the Pixel C with it. Posted via the Android Central App
I personally think the Samsung Note Pro 12.2 offers more value . Am I wrong ?
The 10.5" Galaxy Tab S is closer to this on size than the Note Pro 12.2. I have the Tab S 10.5" LTE and it is better (on paper) in every respect. Maybe the battery is better on the Pixel C, but with its sheer size and weight (esp with protective cases and keyboards), plugging it to a wall charger once a day would be the least of your worries.
I think ChromeOS would be a better fit for this. Soft and sweet Marshmallow
I think the idea of productivity on a mobile os is silly. That said, I don't need a productivity tablet, I need a replacement for my nexus 10. The nexus 9 proved to be a bust as it overheated looking at webpages and had a stupid screen size for watching videos and whatnot. Apple, in their infinite wisdom (just ask them, they'll tell you they're wise), decided tablets should be viewed in portrait and by God, anything else is "sideways." Nevermind the only android user I know whose tablet is consistently portrait is my dad. If this tablet roots easily so I can get rid of the nav bar and the add lmt/pie that should be native, I think it may be the entertainment tablet I need.
"I think the idea of productivity on a mobile os is silly." I agree 100%. I have backlit keyboard (with function keys) and a mouse. I have tried hard to use my 10.5" Galaxy Tab S as a notebook replacement and it is almost impossible. It would be great if we could run Windows 7 on it and ditch the "toy" Android. Google could help matters by forcing a "serious OS mode" on modern tablets that have landscape orientation, huge screen resolutions, and great CPU/GPU power.
a real tablet ...
I think I'd rather buy 2 ASUS Flip Chromebooks and pocket the change. :)
Its ugly and clunky looking. No contender for ipad Pro or even the iPad Air. I am disappointed Google.
Pixel C is the best tablet....period! To heavy? Must be a bunch of girly hands. Great balance. Battery life is THE BEST. Smooth and seamless operation. Grow a pair reviewers... Posted via the Android Central App
The issue with apps that don't like landscape can be easily fixed - I saw the same thing happening on my Galaxy tab s2 and fixed it with the Rotation Manager app by Meerkat. So far I've successfully used it to force all such apps to work fine in both landscape and portrait. I've only run into one or two apps that have minor layout issues when forced to landscape. There are several rotation utility apps of this type; I don't know which run on Marshmallow but the one from Meerkat worked best of all the ones I tried on lollipop.
At these sizes, and prices, and with added (backlit) keyboards and mice, these tablets have entered the notebook class. However a notebook would be running Windows, a much better "productivity" OS, whereas Android and its apps are still designed to run on 4" portrait mode phones. So much so that even if your 10.5" tablet has a stupendous screen res, and even if you have the keyboard and mouse, you still are prevented from doing basic things as you'd do on a notebook/laptop and simple operations seem like an uphill struggle. And more than half your apps abruptly switch to portrait whenever they feel like it. An idea for a good comparison/review would be to put it next to a small notebook and try some productivity tests. Work with spreadsheets, word documents, browse internet and copy+paste information out of the internet pages. Then measure the internet usage - I bet you'll find the Android OS which keeps killing your apps the moment you look the other way, would be piling up on the internet data and potentially costing you a lot more. Especially if roaming. As to this tablet, I believe it is a joke at this price. I have the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE and I am getting: 1) LTE connectivity and the ability to take it anywhere and be always connected and to make and receive phone calls and texts (which I do).
2) GPS - very useful trying to find that restaurant in Bonn on foot, even with internet off.
3) A very good backlit keyboard with function keys (Tecknet) for "spare change" price.
4) A superb Samsung mouse (Samsung Original Galaxy S Wireless Bluetooth Action Mouse)
5) An external SD card ! What were Google really thinking when they made this. No SD card? No GPS? No possibility for a SIM? Why would you not buy the Samsung Tab S instead?
Is that supposed to be a Gay Pride activism color bar on the top of the case?
Phil, "A larger issue for me (and this is one that I'm trying to get used to but am still struggling with) is the weight. The Pixel C itself weighs 517 grams — that's 1.13 pounds." I'm sorry, but I actually went to the trouble of signing up for an account so I could repeat this quote from your review. I hope you're not still struggling... Thanks, Russ
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