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Android 8.0 Oreo review: Vive la évolution

Some Android releases represent massive sea changes for Google's OS, overhauling technical underpinnings or introducing new design elements. Others are content to tighten up the screws and add polish to an already well-established platform.

The new release of Android for 2017/18 — version 8.0 Oreo — fits somewhere in between those two extremes. Android itself is pretty stable at this point, so it's natural that broad, sweeping UX and functionality changes are less likely to happen with every new version. Yet although Oreo looks and feels a lot like the previous Android Nougat, contained within are myriad feature tweaks and low-level tune-ups that make Android more mature and powerful.

With Oreo, your phone (or, let's be honest here, your next phone) will be able to view videos in the foreground as you use other apps in the background. It'll become easier to keep track of multiple notifications from the same app, thanks to the new notification channels and notification dots features. Smarter text entry and autofill APIs will take the tedium out of entering passwords and other sensitive info. And Google's "Project Treble" should help phones shipping on Oreo get faster updates to Android P and beyond.

That's alongside subtle visual and animation tweaks that make Android lighter, brighter and more dynamic.

Google kept us guessing until the end when it came to the eventual nickname of Android 8.0, but the software itself has slowly been coming into focus through the past five months of developer previews. And now, with the final, stable release of Oreo in our hands, we're ready to get stuck in.

This is the Android Central review of Android 8.0 Oreo.

Oreo

About this review

I (Alex Dobie) started work on review in early August 2017, having used Android O in developer preview form since it first landed in March. Most of what's written here is based on the last developer preview, which is considered a near-final "release candidate" quality build. We're not expecting to see any significant differences in the final release of Oreo for Pixel and Nexus devices, but we will update this review should we find any noteworthy changes.

This review isn't intended to be an exhaustive list of every little change Google has made in Android 8.0, nor will we go into excessive detail on the developer-centric additions, like the introduction of Kotlin as a fully supported language. These changes are important, but this review is intended to give regular Android users an idea of what to expect in the new version of the OS.

That said, we're not writing an instruction manual here either. Instead, we're presenting this review as an overview of the direction Google has taken Android in Oreo, zeroing in on major additions and offering a critique of how these affect the overall Android experience.

Enjoy!

Pixel XL

Look and feel

Most of us see Android through the lens of whichever manufacturer's UI we choose. This long-standing trend isn't going to change in Oreo, and so bear in mind that when you get 8.0 on, for example, your Galaxy S8, it'll look a bit different to what we're reviewing here on Google's Pixel devices.

Nevertheless, more manufacturers than ever — Motorola, Lenovo, OnePlus and HTC, to name a few — are using a near-stock Android UI right now. So in that context, the design direction of vanilla Android continues to matter.

Android O Settings

There's been no major visual overhaul in the new version of Android. In fact, the most striking visual difference is the brighter color palette for the quick settings area in the notification shade. It's now light gray, not dark gray, reflecting similar color changes in the stock Settings app. For the non-phone nerds among us who own Pixels, these might well be the only visual change they notice. (As for whether it's good or bad, that's a matter of personal taste.)

Aside from this color change, there's been some minor rearrangement to the quick settings panel, bringing the settings, user switching and edit shortcuts further down, making these easier to reach on larger phones. With the shift to an 18:9 aspect ratio in many popular flagships this year, improving reachability on taller phones is important.

Android O icon types

The redesigned Settings app is the next most significant visual change. The slide-out "hamburger" navigation panel added in Nougat has been removed, and instead Google has made navigation easier by redesigning each of the 13 sub-menus. Many of the major settings options are accompanied by icons, and Android now does a better job of surfacing important items within each sub-menu.

Android's settings are lighter, simpler to navigate and easier to reach.

The new battery settings page is a great example of this. Screen usage (screen-on time) is shown right up top, along with the time since your last full charge. Scroll down a little, and your most battery-hungry apps are displayed.

You need to look below the surface to spot many of the other visual changes in Android 8.0. For instance, Google has finally started bringing a sense of order to app icons, with the new "adaptive icons" feature. Just as Google pushed towards circular app icons in Android 7.1, adaptive icons lets phone makers change this cutout shape to what best fits their own visual style. (On the Pixels, you can choose between five cutout types.)

Notifications

This means manufacturers like Samsung, Huawei and LG, who like to use their own icon cutout shape, have a more reliable way to do this that doesn't result in bad, weird-looking icons for third-party apps. The new icon style should also bring some uniformity to Android app drawers and home screens, which for a long time have been a jumble of mismatched shapes.

Oreo introduces a handful of neat new animations in the notification area.

Android's animations haven't changed a whole lot in Oreo, but there are a couple of spritely new animation behaviors in the notification shade that add to the polish of Google's Material Design. Icons smoothly transition from the status bar into their notification cards, then into the overflow area if you have lots of notifications. And icons also juggle themselves around the status bar places as new alerts arrive, making the whole system feel more dynamic.

These are small changes, but they go a long way towards making this important area of the system feel more lively and dynamic.

Finally, it's worth mentioning a handful of upgrades to that most important of smartphone features, emoji! Android 8.0 adds a handful of new emoji in Emoji 5.0, while redesigning the graphics themselves in a move away from the old-style "blobs". Going forward, Google's emoji compatibility library will allow developers to support new emoji on older Android versions (all the way back to 4.4 KitKat).

Android O emoji

Meanwhile, behind-the-scenes font changes in Oreo allow developers to customize the way emoji look in their specific apps, while making it easier for devs to use custom fonts in their apps. (Thanks to fonts becoming a full resource type in Android 8.0.)

Arguably, the Emoji Compatibility features in Google Play Services is the more significant changes here. Nevertheless, system-level support for new icons, and more consistent-looking emoji, are also a big deal. It's easy to shrug off the importance of emoji, but they're an important part of communication for millions of people, and Google is doing the right thing by focusing engineering effort on them, both in Android and Play Services.

Notification channels

Notifications, alerts and widgets

Android notifications were overhauled in Nougat, and Oreo brings a handful of smaller changes to make handling the daily firehose of alerts a little easier.

The big new thing is notification channels, a new feature which brings categories of notifications to apps, making it easier to manage and filter different types of alerts from the same app. A social app, for example, might have channels for direct messages, status updates, likes or other interactions.

And you can then choose how you're alerted for notifications in each of these channels — sound, vibration, or LED — or even block notifications from some channels altogether. Long-pressing on a notification lets you see and configure its notification channels — just as in older versions of Android, you could choose to allow or block notifications.

There's a certain amount of micro-management involved in getting to grips with notification channels.

Notification snooze

There's a certain amount of micro-management involved here, and it's questionable whether most users will even be aware of notification channels in the short to medium term. Google is hoping to speed this process along by requiring notification channel support when apps target Android 8.0 on the Play Store.

And that's the other caveat here — it's going to take time, and a lot of individual app updates, before we know how successful this feature is going to be. Maybe notification channels will be genuinely useful. Or perhaps we'll all be too lazy to bother with them.

Speaking of laziness, Android 8.0 also allows you to snooze individual notification groups for 15 minutes, 30 minutes, one hour or two hours, by swiping right and hitting the clock icon. The use case here is pretty obvious — this should be a helpful way to dismiss a notification you don't need to deal with right away, without getting rid of it permanently.

Elsewhere, media player apps like Google Play Music, YouTube, and eventually others, can introduce a splash of color to their notifications, drawing upon the main colors of album art, video thumbnails or poster art. It's a somewhat contentious feature, with some commentators arguing that it adds unnecessary visual clutter. The faded transition into album art is a little distracting, particularly when brighter colors are introduced, but it's also arguable that this helps set media controls apart from other miscellaneous alerts.

Colorful playback notifications jump into the foreground, as persistent notifications fade into the background.

Music notification

Just as media controls are being pushed more into the foreground, persistent notifications — for example, from Maps, the Google app, a Wi-Fi hotspot, USB connection or any other process that might be running in the background — are being de-cluttered. These now shrink down to a shorter notification card in a slightly darker shade, setting them apart from more important alerts. If you need to see more info, you can expand them like any other notification.

Always-on display

The changes to Android's notification setup are small but numerous, and they aren't confined to the notification shade itself. Ambient Display, first introduced way back on the Nexus 6, has seen its biggest overhaul thus far in Android 8.0.

The main Ambient Display area actually shows you less information than it did in Nougat, with only the time and a series of icons appearing when the phone is raised. The other side of that coin is that individual notifications now flash up in a more user-friendly way.

Notification pop-ups on the Ambient Display are larger and easier to read, and if you have the option enabled, a double-tap is all it takes to open up the main lock screen.

Balancing information density and glanceability is always tricky, but Google manages a reasonable blend of both in Oreo.

And last but not least, in addition to the notification shade, lock screen and always-on display, Android 8.0 allows launchers to show you individual app notifications through the notification badges feature. Apps with a pending notification will display a colored dot, and long-pressing to open up the shortcut menu will show notifications alongside app shortcuts, complete with the ability to swipe to dismiss.

That's not the only new trick hiding behind the app shortcut menu in Oreo — a new widget shortcut button frees users from long, cumbersome widget menus, with an easy way to see all the widget from a particular app.

Picture in Picture

Picture-in-Picture

Picture-in-picture mode was actually introduced in Android 7.0, but only for Android TV devices. Version 8.0 brings it to phones and tablets, introducing a potentially huge feature for owners of extra-large phablet-class devices.

PiP mode varies a little depending on how the developer implements it, but basically this feature lets you start a video from within one app, then hit the home key to shrink it down into a smaller floating window with its own playback controls. You can resize and move it around the screen in the foreground, while opening and using other apps as normal in the background.

It's similar to multi-window, introduced as standard in Nougat. And while you can use multi-window to split the screen between video and other apps, PiP is a much more elegant approach.

Picture in picture

Picture-in-picture mode finally arrives on mobile devices — but will content providers make users pay to use it?

Like many Android 8.0 features, we're going to have to wait for developer to update their apps to take advantage of PiP. And as always, some platform holders (or their advertisers), and rights holders (or their lawyers) may object to allowing background playback in some instances. We're already seeing background playback gated off behind a virtual paywall in YouTube, where a YouTube Red subscription is required to play videos in the background.

In any case, Oreo lays the technical foundations for this feature on phones and tablets. And with the possibility of more Google-branded Android tablets ahead — and even more Android-enabled Chromebooks — there are exciting possibility for users and developers alike.

Smarter logins and text entry

Everyone hates entering passwords — the tedium of password entry has spawned an entire industry of password managers. But these still require a lot of frustrating copying and pasting.

So in Oreo, Google has tackled the password pain point on two fronts. Firstly, "Autofill with Google" can help you sign into accounts on your phone using information already stored in your Google account — all with a single tap. For instance, if you've signed into Twitter on the web through Chrome, Google can then use these saved credentials to help you sign into the Twitter app on your phone.

Android Oreo is the beginning of the end for password entry on phones.

If you've already signed up to a password manager service (and they've updated their app to work with Android 8.0), you'll be able to pull in passwords from their app automatically, with any hopping back and forth, or copy-pasting between text fields.

This feature certainly takes a lot of the pain out of setting up a new Android devices, and from Google's perspective, the benefits work both ways, giving Android users an additional reason to use Chrome for their desktop web browsing.

Smart text selection

Taken to its logical extreme, Android 8.0's password features could entirely do away with having to enter passwords on a mobile device. (With the exception of your Google password and two-factor code, of course.) But like many of Android's most convenient features, you'll need to be comfortable with giving Google all this information in the first place to reap the benefits.

On a related note, Android is also getting smarter about how it handles specific kinds of information in text fields. When highlighting text, Google's machine learning figures out what kind of data you've selected and offers relevant contextual options — for example, a shortcut to the Dialer app for phone numbers, or Google Maps for addresses.

This is supported in Google Chrome on older versions of Android, but it's great to see it being introduced throughout the OS in Oreo.

Android O on Pixel C

New features for convertibles

Despite the moribund state of the Android tablet market, Oreo provides clues that Google still intends to push into the convertible space — either through Android as we currently know it, Chrome OS running Android apps, or something else entirely.

Android 8.0 brings new life to the soon-to-be-retired (yet still criminally overpriced) Pixel C tablet. On top of the new multitasking interface introduced for tablets in version 7.1.2, Android 8.0 adds a new system for keyboard shortcuts within Android apps, making it quicker to get around apps and menus where it's not convenient to touch the screen. That's particularly useful considering that a vast majority of a large tablet's life is spent attached to a keyboard.

No more awkwardly resizing that Netflix window to fit alongside your other apps.

More broadly, the Pixel C, and Chromebooks in general, should benefit from the new picture-in-picture mode, which will be particularly useful on a laptop, tablet or convertible. (No more awkwardly resizing that Netflix window to fit alongside Chrome, Twitter and other apps.) It's not a full desktop window system, but instead brings Android tablets in line with where the iPad is right now.

Also noteworthy: New audiovisual improvements that should help make Android tablets more appealing to content creators. Support for wide-gamut color in apps (such as DPI-P3, Adobe RGB and Pro Photo RGB), aim to make Android tablets a better fit for photographers, while the new AAudio API will reduce audio latency, bringing Android a step closer to taking on GarageBand on the iPad.

Android still has a long way to go before it can challenge Apple and Microsoft on tablets and convertibles, but the new features in Oreo shouldn't be discounted. As ever, the critical issue with Android tablets is still app support, where very few apps — even Google's own — properly support large, landscape displays. Android 8.0, for all of its improvements, can't really do anything to fix that.

Pixel XL + Nexus 6P

Under the hood: Background limits, better battery life, faster OS updates

Out-of-control apps running in the background have long been the number one reason for poor battery life on Android phones. And now, building on the "Project Doze" and "Doze On-The-Go" enhancements in Android 6.0 and 7.0, version 8.0 makes it harder for badly-behaving apps to run roughshod over your device's battery.

In Oreo, Google has introduced even more limits on what apps can do while they're not in the foreground. Broadcast limitations in the new version mean that (with a few exceptions) apps in the background can't react to broadcasts (things happening on the device) that don't specifically target them. Google is using these restriction to nudge developers towards Androids job scheduler feature, introduced in Lollipop, which manages background tasks in a way that's easier on your battery.

As the owner of a device on Android 8.0, you don't need to do anything to take advantage of the battery life (and performance) benefits of tighter background controls. Over the past couple of weeks using the final Oreo developer preview, I can't say I've noticed any huge difference in battery life on my Pixel XL compared to Nougat. (Then again, I've always found that phone's standby battery life to be solid.)

Android update diagram

Oreo makes it harder for misbehaving apps to devour your battery.

Another major pain point being addressed in Android 8.0 is OS updates. Through its new Project Treble initiative, Google is has created a modular structure that hardware companies can use to separate out their own customizations from the core OS. The idea is this will make it easier to push out firmware updates without completely reinventing the wheel. This isn't a panacea for Android's update woes, but it should significantly reduce the workload required to update a phone shipping on Android 8.0 to a hypothetical version 8.1 or 9.0, in addition to speeding up the rollout of security patches in the interim.

It's going to take years, not months to judge the success (or otherwise) of Google's new Project Treble.

It's going take time to judge how much of a success Project Treble has been. AC understands that it's not a hard requirement for OEMs shipping a phone on Android 8.0, but that Google will push device makers towards using Treble rather than continuing in the old way.

Watch this space.

Android O on Pixel C

Android 8.0: The Bottom Line

It's hard to get excited about any single feature in Android 8.0 Oreo, even for smartphone nerds like us. That's very much a product of where we are in the OS's lifespan right now, but it also speaks to the fact that Google is using this release to target specific areas — notifications, autofill, picture-in-picture, background battery life, Project Treble — as opposed to doing any major work on the user-facing side of Android.

As a result, Oreo is the sum of many smaller changes that make the OS easier to use, with better performance, fewer pain points and added convenience. Android still feels like Android, but in 8.0 it's more polished than ever.

Oreo is free from the early wonk that affected the first round of Android 7.0 releases.

That said, Nougat is still more than good enough for most folks, for the time being. And as Google and its partners continue to roll out security updates independently of OS updates, being out of step with the latest platform version doesn't mean you're open to malware. That's just as well, because if past years are any indication, we'll be well into 2018 before Oreo hits double figures in terms of its Android ecosystem share.

In the grand scheme of things, Project Treble could turn out to be the most significant addition in this version of Android, as Google finally picks away at the technical barriers that keep so many phones on older versions of the OS. At the same time, the introduction of picture-in-picture mode, as well as refinements to keyboard navigation, see Android shuffling closer to desktop/convertible OS status.

On the surface, this is a fairly safe release cycle for Android — evolution, not revolution. And true, most of us will see Oreo for the first time on a new 2018 handset, unless there's an unexpected rush among OEMs to update existing devices. (That's almost certainly not going to happen.)

But despite the lack of an exciting headline feature, Oreo is still an important update. More importantly, it appears to be free from the woes which affected early Nougat firmware for the Nexus 5X and 6P this time last year. And for Pixel and Nexus owners lucky enough to be on the early release track, they'll be among the first to experience the most stable and capable Android release in years.

Andrew Martonik and Jerry Hildenbrand contributed to this review.

Alex Dobie
Alex Dobie

Alex was with Android Central for over a decade, producing written and video content for the site, and served as global Executive Editor from 2016 to 2022.

58 Comments
  • Nice overview and review, Alex. Now the big question: at 02:28, goo.gl/maps/QujeUkon2t32 gives "Ba Fang Yun Ji Dupling". Did you ever get there and was it good? Judging by the 23 reviews on Maps, I'm not so sure.. .:)
  • a) You're musical tastes are oddly similar to mine b) Am I understanding correctly that youtube, the overwhelming dominant app that people use to watch videos on android and one that's owned by google, wont be able to use PiP? That seems ...silly. Youtube red isn't even an option in canada.
  • The YouTube app probably just isn't updated yet. Remember, its not part of Android and is updated through the Google Play Store.
  • meh nothing really exciting at all.
  • I see little here to be excited about personally, then again I dislike nougat so maybe I'm odd. Reading about picture in picture, it sounds like something Samsung did for years already. I used to play videos in floating windows while doing other things behind it.
  • Exactly. It's hard for me to get excited about a feature that I've had for years. I was considering getting a Pixel this year, but I think it's kinda lost its appeal. Being first to get these mostly boring updates isn't really that big of a deal.
  • That could be said to be inspired by the Samsung implementation, or others.
    If that feature is useful to you, then you could argue it is a good thing for consumers having with manufacturers have access to it more easily, and if deemed to be a good implementation it having a good minimum standard with that implementation.
  • Seems okay ... but overall "meh". I almost fell asleep during the video. Except for when the Oreos showed up. Then I started to get cravings. I think Nabisco will profit more from this release of Android than anyone else. Excuse me, I need to go to the store.
  • Am I the only one who thinks that long pressing home scree app icons to bring up a menu of core functions is absolutely brilliant? I know 3rd party launchers have had this feature for awhile, but I'm still impressed with how well it's implemented here in a native way. A brilliant little piece if design that makes interacting with you phone easier and faster
  • I agree.
    Copying is part of how the baseline experience is improved, and is really only possible due to the open nature of Android, letting manufacturers "do their own thing" to a very large extent.
    Certainly that can have some misses, but where would android be without that, without experiments.
    Showing us and Google things we didn't know we wanted or could benefit from.
  • Like the author stated 7.0 for most is good enough. My n8 will ship with 7.1 an I'm good with that . To me nothing here stands out to be a need to have right now update. In 2 days I'll see how well samsung implements their own built-in features on the note 8
  • Still no dark theme, google get it together
  • The vast majority of Android users are not using stock Android, Google has determined through usage stats that the majority of their users do not care about a dark theme. Time to deal with that fact.
  • Glad to see passwords being integrated into the OS and improvements to battery life are always welcome. Otherwise, nothing to get too excited about.
  • I hate the white theme....wish I had thought about that before updating.
  • Face it folks, Android has indeed plateaued... The evolution of Windows these days is much more exciting.
  • In my opinion there is a place for function over form, and that is arguably what this is.
    No reason why some future release can't have more "eye-candy" updates, but the core experience is down to more than just how it looks, but how it works too.
  • While I do aggree that windows is the only place where any real innovations are happening, I think they should fix their existing problems before looking forward to the future. I mean, they have all these fluent design and stuff going on... but task manager still has an old windows 7 era icon. it looks like a vomit stain on the taskbar. If I go to the windows store to download an app, I can confidently expect it to throw an error code for some silly reason. windows is exciting but windows is also not even stable enough to be called a consumer OS. it feels like a beta release to me. and don't even get me started on what the actual betas (insider builds) are like 😂
  • But wait - there are new icon rules and harder work for background utility developers and ... and ... :D One can live with Marshmallow and Lollipop without missing anything important. Still there will be almost angry people asking "when will X receive Android 8" just because update ;)
  • You gotta be kidding?!?!?... While MS may be doing some interesting things, this article is about mobile... And that's MS Waterloo if there's ever been one. Non-existence doesn't equal "much more exciting"
  • I wished I could go back about 3 or 4 editions.... every time they update I like it less. Notification bar background always changing to something... can't figure out how to stop it, phone coming on in my pocket and running everything, going offline and can't make a call.... I'm liking it less and less.
  • Dude, I'm with you. I can't stand 7, 6 worked perfect on my phone, now it's a steaming pile of ****. No idea WTF they could have changed but the screen is way less responsive in some ways and way too sensitive in others. It's like I have a monkey translating english from russian from a portuguese manuscript when I try to type anymore.
  • Hope to get this ambient display on every phone. I miss this on my new honor 9... And I'm used to it since I had Lumia 925... Please
  • The 925 was my first windows phone, beautiful phone! Been having a hard time finding a phone that I really like since I left windows
  • Not without OLED screen, at least not full time. Still, there's an app or two for that. Not Glance-worthy ones, but better than nothing ;)
  • IMO these updates are often over-rated concerning their impact on our day-to-day lives. OEMs are also failing in that aspect. Despite the fanfare about the newest phones c'est la même chose. Miniscule improvements for ..... more $$$$. Nope. I'm not expecting the next flagship phone to be able to fry my eggs. Here ends my mini rant.
  • Have to agree. We at the point where the changes are so small now. I can't tell the difference in the picture quality between 1 flagship over the other.
  • I've been saying that for about three years now.
  • I suppose that the Nabisco shareholders are having a party with milk and cookies right about now. Live together in perfect harmony... hey I just noticed it's 4:20, and it's time for some Oreos!
  • It's probably a mutual marketing agreement like Kit Kat where no money changed hands.
  • All I saw was PiP which will be cool on the V20. I think the screen real estate will be great for YouTube and other tasks.
  • The one thing and only thing that will get me excited about Android is when they separate the core from the OEM addons and drivers to the point where EVERY Android device can get an upgrade like this independent of the OEM. Until then, it's basically a crapshoot. I have eight Android devices including Samsung Tab S2 LTE and the LG G5 and to the best of my knowledge NONE of them will be getting this update and four of them are Nexus devices.
  • Glad to see that Google is beginning (or more so) sidestepping device manufacturers to provide updates of the OS. Many a device owner in the know is aware that it all gets hung up at the manufacturer and the service provider. Some do little if anything to their devices, but others heavily skin them over Android and/or tack on the bloatware that they each consider more important than security and/or OS updates... After reviewing many a launcher before settling on Nova Launcher, I've often felt that the Android OS should be treated as a launcher when it comes to updates. A new aspect becomes available, you should be able to download and install it without it interfering with some manufacturer skin or service provider bloat. It should be like taking your car to the shop and having new seats installed or a new stereo installed, neither of which has anything to do with the mechanics of the car operation and shouldn't be hung up by the company who actually built your car...
  • I heard apps load faster. Is this true?
  • Nope, actually they load slower.
  • I like the video. Thanks.
    Could someone attach a link to the old review of android 7 Nougat? I'd like to watch it and learn more about any features that I may be underutilizing.
    Thanks!
  • Come on, really? Google is your friend.
  • Good thing I bought a packet of Oreos
  • I absolutely hate that there are persistent notifications that I cannot get rid of. I know that there are apps running in the background, that's why I installed them. I don't need nor want Google nannying me and forcing a persistent notification on me to remind me. While there seems to be an option in the notification settings to disable it, I cannot toggle the switch, for whatever reason. This was barely acceptable in the DP, but NOT in the final version!!
    The fact that PiP is not available for YouTube without paying a fee is utterly ridiculous. It's an OS-level feature that should be available for every app. What if every app developer decides a subscription is required for PiP to work??? VLC - pay if you want to use PiP, YouTube - pay if you want to use PiP. Plex - you gotta pay if you want to use PiP. People would end up paying multiple times for an OS feature.
  • Ooh. Look. It .... YAWN!
  • What I want to see is the ability to update the operating system when I want. I don't want to wait for the manufacturers or the carriers to decide. I don't want to have to root as well to get what I want. All the phones should be unlocked to start no matter where you buy it. I'm paying for the phone. I want it my way! There are a few features of "O" I would be interested in but for the most part if it happens, fine. If not, I am fine with that as well.
  • Then you need to get an iPhone, the very nature of Android makes this impossible.
  • How they gonna sell new phones when sole differentiating factor right now is software decimal numbers?
  • Quote: "ringing Android a step closer to taking on GarageBand on the iPad" With what software? GarageBand, Logic Remote and their ability to interop with (and even drive) macOS software is kind of the point. This won't matter if the software is half-assed, which is the issue that keeps so many people from jumping over. As much as the Web has given us, I'm starting to feel like the reliance on it by Google in others is turning Apple's strategy into a killer feature of sorts. No one does serious music creation, recording, or audio editing on a tablet. These tablet components are much better at adding value to a solution than actually being THE solution (Apple, Adobe, Microsoft are good examples of companies who understand this).
  • With all the things that have been changed, I think that Android is taking big steps in the right direction.
    However, the Emojis are terrible. I'm sorry. #BringBlobsBack
  • Yessssss, the emoji are now soulless and creepy, especially the cats. And the douchey turtle. 🐢
  • Got it last night, so far so good. I had a persistent Gmail is running notification which was maddening, went to bed and it was gone but my exchange account for work would not load my emails. Nuked that account and readded it and it seems to be working fine now. I was on the final dev preview and my battery was draining like crazy, right now my battery life seems rock solid. Also somehow my Pixel XL seems smoother, which is just crazy, I think it is smoother than when I unboxed it almost a year ago. All of that being said, the persistent "X App is running in the background" notifications are not that great. I can just imagine how my parents will react when their phones update (which they hate already) and Android starts sticking random notifications in their notification area that they can't dismiss. This seems like something that should be off by default, especially since I see no way to actually take action on them. They give you information but don't tell you why that information is important or what you can do about it. It is one of those things that Android nerds might, MIGHT, like but that Joe Sixpack who wanted the fancy new Galaxy will probably despise.
  • Ok, by your opening remarks I got the impression Oreo Is going to be released to NEW phones, not "old" ones, such as my Samsung S8+. Tell me that ain't so!!
    You see, those of us in the "real" world have to purchase our phones; they aren't given to us. In addition, I'm the prototypical physical wreck and I draw a small monthly stipend from my Uncle Sam, i.e. Disability payments.
    So, if you know of any openings at any firms who need writers proficient with both technology and a command of the English language let me know, OK? In the interim, please clarify the "next phone" point!
    Oh, and if you have any of these "old phones" laying about, orphaned, lonely and in need of a caring home, do contact me, yes? I purchased mine in June, so I'm sure you believe it to be aged, decrepit & bound for the "old phone nursing home," AKA a crusher somewhere . . .
    Thanx,
    MrStacey
  • Jerry has a post on here giving his estimation what devices are likely to get upgraded to Oreo. In general phones released by major manufacturers like Samsung and LG that were releases in their last 2 years and sold well will likely get upgraded eventually. By eventually I mean in the next few MONTHS. Unfortunately this is a complicated process because of the way Android works. Only Pixle Pixle Plus, Pixle C and Nexus 6 P will get upgrades in the next few days.
  • Just give us a damn dark mode already! Systen-wide, if you please. Sheesh, what the hell is it going to take?
  • A custom launcher.
  • Wasn't BB first to have apps working in the background?
  • Pretty sure it was a feature as far back as the Apollo guidance computer
  • Thanks for review
  • Great review! Thanks!
    Can you please share that blue wallpaper?
  • They keep polishing notifications screen but they have no where to go from there. Notification tray is a byproduct of complete, wild app fragmentation where each app does whatever it pleases all over the phone. Problem itself are not notifications but unreasonable amount of data they present themselves as notifications without actual priority of what's important and what's not (for example Gmail app should not notify you about anything else but email), due to such horrible behavior its pretty common you get duplicate notifications about shared data from different apps. Android is a victim of app interruption which resorts into users ADD hunting down the incoming content. They will never contain this unless they change the approach "it's all about the apps" and personally I don't see this happening anytime soon cause Android knows App catalogue is all they have over any other mobile OS which all work better under the hood than Android. Also who ever thought color changing notification based on album art is good idea, it's not. Music controls should have been on the bottom of the screen or on top of the screen not somewhere in the middle of other notifications. They are really struggling with basic usage so sugarcoating it perhaps buys them some time to make it right.
  • I think it's sad how Samsung Galaxy 8s can't get it quickly
  • You can already use Picture in Picture to play the video from a website. Just go to a website that has a video embedded in it (doesn't work for youtube videos). Then expand the video to full screen. Then pull down the notification menu from the top so the on screen buttons are visible at the bottom. Click the Overview button (the square button on the right). The Video then minimises and keeps playing and you can chose another thumbnail to expand to full screen while keeping the video playing i.e. Facebook Messenger. Not sure if Google has meant for this to happen like this but it seems to work fine. I accidentally noticed this yesterday while moving between apps.
    Device I'm using is the Pixel C.