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The Nexus family — a smartphone retrospective

We take a look back at the five Nexus smartphones that captured our nerd hearts

As debate continues over whether we'll ever see a Nexus 6, or whether it'll be replaced by something else, like the rumored "Android Silver" program — and such conversations seem to happen around this time each year — it's time to take a trip down memory lane. We're prone to declaring "the best" of whatever around here. But when it comes to Nexus phones — those holier-than-everything-but-never-perfect smartphones we nerds obsess over every year — it's sort of hard to pick a favorite. We can't really declare one a winner over another.

Or can we? Nexus means something different to all of us. Maybe it means "developer phone." Maybe it means it's something you can tinker on without really breaking anything. Maybe it means "pure Google" and little else. Maybe it means a way to have a kick-ass smartphone without having to deal with the hell that is the U.S. carrier system.

We've all lived and loved our Nexus phones. Let's light a candle, turn on some soft music, and take a look back what made (and make) them mean so much to us.

The HTC Nexus One — Phil Nickinson

The Nexus One

Rumors began swirling in late 2009 — actually they began long before that — that Google was working on its own phone. And as the holidays grew near and Googlers found themselves in possession of a slick little new device, the secret was pretty much out. We were getting some sort of new Android phone from Google.

The first "Google phone" was a badly kept secret, but that didn't spoil the excitement in early 2010.

A secret no more, the Nexus One was finally announced on Jan. 5, 2010, just ahead of CES. I was just a month into this job, having made the leap from writing part-time for our Windows Mobile site, the former WMExperts and now WPCentral.

And what a slick phone it was. Curvy in ways that few had done before. Made with the build quality we'd come to expect from HTC. Even the name "Nexus" just oozes cool. And Google looked to shake up the phone industry by selling the Nexus not in carrier stories, on contract, but on its own, at the now-defunct The initial release was carrier-unlocked at $529, but only had 3G bands for T-Mobile here in the U.S. An AT&T HSPA-friendly Nexus One was released a bit later. You could get a subsidized phone through T-Mobile for $129. (A plan for a Verizon-friendly Nexus One never materialized.

So things were sort of different in that you couldn't actually go into a store and pick one up. But the same in that you could buy one off contract, or not. And supported turned out to be a bit of a mess at first, too.

The phone, though. What a number it was. Remember that this was back before phones got huge. The Nexus One sported a 3.7-inch display at 480x800 resolution. (And back when HTC used AMOLED panels.) The Qualcomm 8250 processor was running at 1 GHz. It had a whopping 512MB of on-board storage, and just as much RAM. And it was all powered by a 1,400 mAh battery. The 5-megapixel camera was OK for its time.

The Nexus One

The Nexus One introduced us to live wallpapers, for better or worse. And it had a trackball!

OK, I could have lived without the trackball, though I might well have said otherwise at the time.

Even by today's standards, the Nexus One manages to catch your eye.

The Nexus One was almost more about the principle than the phone itself. Here was a device that was meant to stick it to the old carrier model (more or less). It was supposed to be easy to buy, easy to set up, easy to use. And while perhaps it wasn't the start of the "pure Google" movement, away from manufacturer and carrier corruption (the original Motorola Droid was essentially bloat-free, as you'll recall), the Nexus One quickly was made the standard-bearer. When Android 2.2 Froyo was announced at released at Google I/O a few months later, it was the Nexus One that would get it, and other updates, first. That made it even more important than just a phone you didn't have to sign away two years of your life for.

But every phone must reach its end-of-life. The Nexus One remains officially stuck on Android 2.3.6 Gingerbread.

Every now and then I have to take out the Nexus One again. Sometimes it's for a random picture. Sometimes it's for nostalgia. All I know is the damn thing still feels great in the hand. It's not the thinnest, it's not the fastest. It's not the best looking. (And now that I think about it, that sounds all too familiar, and maybe that's why I still like it so.) But it was the first. And I won't ever forget it.

  • Read our complete Nexus One review from 2010!
  • Find more in our HTC One forums!

Jerry Hildenbrand — The Samsung Nexus S

The Samsung Nexus S

While the Nexus One may have been the first Nexus, the Nexus S was the first good Nexus. (That sound you hear is Phil scoffing.)

You take the best mobile hardware available from the 2010 Samsung Galaxy S phones, and build an Android phone with the latest OS and none of the stupid file system nonsense or the horrible user experience that came from using Samsung's models. Also gone were issues with power buttons, wonky touch response and the Microsoft tax from having an SD card that we saw with the Nexus One. It felt like Google was serious this time.

Google gets serious with the Samsung Nexus S.

They were more serious about selling them, too. I remember walking into Best Buy the day the Nexus S was released and buying one right over the counter. There was no waiting for shipping, and one was even on display if I wanted to touch it before I gave my money to the woman in the blue shirt. Later (almost too late) Sprint got into the game and offered their own WiMax 4G version of the Nexus S. The Nexus S was available for use on every major carrier in the world, with the exception of Verizon. We found out later that Verizon should never have been allowed to touch a Nexus device in the first place, so it turns out that this is a good thing.

Samsung Nexus S

The Nexus S was not the perfect device. I don't think we've seen that just yet. but it did some things really well. It was screaming fast, and I remember when it was the Quadrant benchmark king. The GSM models had fairly good radios to keep you connected (the same can't be said about the Sprint model, unfortunately) and everything was wrapped up in a graceful curved body that had a lip near the bottom to fit perfectly into one hand. And plenty of us wish that the Wolfson WM8996 DAC was available in the phone we're using now. Folks who like great sound owe Supercurio their thanks.

All Nexus phones bring something new to the world of Android, and with the Nexus S it was Internet calling and NFC. While tap-and-pay is always the first thing to come to mind when you mention NFC, there is so much more the little near-field radio can do. According to the Android Developer resources page for Gingerbread:

"An NFC Reader application lets the user read and interact with near-field communication (NFC) tags. For example, the user can "touch" or "swipe" an NFC tag that might be embedded in a poster, sticker, or advertisement, then act on the data read from the tag. A typical use would be to read a tag at a restaurant, store, or event and then rate or register by jumping to a web site whose URL is included in the tag data. NFC communication relies on wireless technology in the device hardware, so support for the platform's NFC features on specific devices is determined by their manufacturers."

Most Android phones have an NFC chip in them now. But we've yet to see wide-spread adoption of the great things it can do on any real level. And hardly anyone uses a SIP account and Internet calling. But they were there, and they worked well.

The Nexus S had a good run. Official support stopped when Google said it would not release Android 4.2, but it's still a very capable little phone. And my favorite Nexus.

  • Read our complete Samsung Nexus S review from Jan. 1, 2011!
  • Find more in our Nexus S forums!

Richard Devine — The Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Samsung Galaxy Nexus — full frontal

The Samsung Galaxy Nexus was due to make its grand debut in the U.S. the same week Apple's iconic CEO, Steve Jobs, passed away. As a result the event was pushed back, and when it finally broke free at an event in Hong Kong it was something truly spectacular — perhaps more for what it ran that what it was as a device.

Samsung's second go at a Nexus was mostly a good one.

That's because the Galaxy Nexus was the first Android device running Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. And when you compare that to 2.3 Gingerbread, the previous version of Android for phones, it was like looking at a completely different platform. Capacitive buttons were out in favor of on-screen replacements and Matias Duarte and his team had clearly left no stone unturned when it came to the software design. The name — an oddity in the annals of Nexus history — may have left no doubts over whose hardware it was, but the user experience was Google at its very best.

But the Galaxy Nexus on which it resided immediately became one of the finest Android phones you could buy. The software played a big part in that, but the phone was no slouch, either. The curved, 720p display, the magnetic dock pins on the side, that sheer black front inside a dark gray shell. The Nexus had started to grow up. It had matured into a phone that folks other than nerds and developers might actually desire.

Samsung had delivered the goods on the inside, too. In some markets 4G variants were made available and the dual-core TI OMAP CPU provided more than enough horsepower for a decent while to follow. The biggest point of contention for many was the sudden withdrawal of the microSD card slot, something which has since continued to this day.

Samsung Galaxy Nexus — The disappointing camera

Then seven months later the GNex, as it had become known, was the first to benefit from the enormous performance improvements introduced by Google in Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. With "Project Butter," the Galaxy Nexus was a new phone, finally casting off the chains of Android's lag-ridden pasty.

... but it was the beginning of the end for SD cards on Nexus phones.

On a personal level, the Galaxy Nexus was the very first Nexus phone I ever owned, or wanted to own. At its launch it easily stood above the other Android phones available, not least because of the leap forward in software. I remember holding it for the first time at an abandoned power station in London and leaving knowing that I had to have it.

The only regret was when the white version emerged. The Galaxy Nexus wasn't nearly as cheap to buy as recent Nexus phones, but I'd argue it was the one many of us lusted after the most.

Andrew Martonik — The LG Nexus 4

LG Nexus 4

When Google announced the Nexus 4 in October of 2012, it marked several changes for the Nexus program. This was arguably the first good-looking Nexus device, the first iteration that Google sold directly to consumers across the world in the Play Store and one that set the pricing model for Nexuses as being high-end phones with mid-range prices.

LG gets its first crack at a Nexus, and it's a good one.

Whereas the Nexus One and Nexus S felt like developer tools, the Nexus 4 felt like a piece of fantastically-designed craftsmanship. From the minute it was leaked in all its glittery glory, people were in love with this phone's design. It's not a stretch to say that the Nexus 4 remains the most beautiful phone that Google has ever stamped the "Nexus" name on.

With its smoothly-rolled glass front, subtly flashy glass back panel and fantastic build quality (LG haters be damned), the Nexus 4 never looked like it should cost just $299 unlocked — but that's how Google priced it from day one. While the Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were all rather expensive and hard to obtain, the Nexus 4 was nearly impossible to keep in stock for the first four months it was available. You could get the Nexus 4 from a variety of retailers around the world, too — you didn't have to go hunting to pick up this device.

Nexus 4 in black — and white!

The Nexus 4 was the jumping-off point for Google to push Qi wireless charging after abandoning the idea of pogo pin charging docks for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 (2012). Coming shortly after the Nexus 4 launch was Google's first-party "charging orb" accessory that was generally disliked for its poor design. Luckily, Google stuck with it and included Qi charging in future Nexuses along with better charging accessories.

Although the Nexus 4 didn't dramatically push forward the platform as much as previous Nexuses, I think you can applaud it for increasing the level of overall refinement of the Nexus line to levels we hadn't seen before. Google took this one seriously — it released a phone with a wonderful industrial design, a few important features and a fantastic price, pushing the Nexus name from a nerd's toy to a consumer brand.

Alex Dobie — The LG Nexus 5

LG Nexus 5

After the widespread — and arguably surprising — success of the Nexus 4, Google approached the Nexus 5 launch with a stronger retail plan, U.S. carrier support and almost immediate international availability. Whereas the N4 had proved tricky to get ahold of, especially at its insanely low launch price, I was able to walk into a store 15 hours after the announcement and buy a Nexus 5.

An underrated Nexus gets the first look at Android L.

That's not to say the news of the Nexus 5's launch was unexpected. Widespread pre-release leakage — not least of which included the device being manhandled by a Googler outside Building 44 — had given us a pretty good look at the N5's externals and some of its software. Nevertheless, it's a great example of launching a smartphone and having it available to buy within a very short period of time.

Like its predecessor, the Nexus 5 delivered top-notch hardware (for the time) at a relatively low price point. And while the chassis wasn't as outwardly flashy as the glass-backed Nexus 4, the fifth Nexus was a solid piece of hardware. The black model in particular came in a muted yet classy exterior, furnished in soft-touch plastic which contrasted with its sheer flat front. It couldn't compete with flashier offerings from HTC and Sony, but there was something understated and cool about the Nexus 5.

The Nexus 5 also saw Google and its manufacturer partner seriously up their game in terms of imaging, with an 8-megapixel sensor backed up by optical image stabilization (OIS) and a powerful new "HDR+" mode. To this day I think the Nexus 5 is tragically underrated as a smartphone camera, particularly in HDR+ mode where it's capable of outperforming some current high-end Android phones.

LG Nexus 5 — New buttons coming in Android L

But the main lure of a Nexus device is a "pure Google" Android experience running on high-end hardware, and the Nexus 5 didn't fail to deliver in that area. Paired with a Snapdragon 800 processor, the new Android 4.4. KitKat was ridiculously fast. (And that's before some realized that an additional boost in performance could be had by enabling the experimental ART runtime.) Visual changes and new software tricks like the Google Now Launcher and the new Google Dialer also made KitKat on the Nexus 5 a more Googley experience. Many small changes in 4.4 added up to a version of Android that felt slicker and more professional than earlier iterations.

If the Nexus 5 had one Achilles' heel, though, it was battery life. The fixed 2,300mAh battery struggled to keep the phone's high-powered hardware going to the end of the day, and for that reason I never felt as confident taking the Nexus 5 on long trips as I did, for example, contemporaries like the Sony Xperia Z1 or Galaxy Note 3. At least the built-in Qi wireless charging softened that blow somewhat.

That battery, though. Oh, that battery.

The Nexus 5 remains a great phone to this day, especially for those looking for a high-end Android phone on a budget. But it also underscores one area of the smartphone experience where Nexus devices have typically lagged behind the competition — battery life.

If there is another Nexus phone being prepped for launch in 2014, hopefully it'll offer the longevity the series has been lacking thus far. Hopefully whatever's next will be a great phone, not just a great phone for the money.

  • I hope the rumors of the nexus 6 are true I'm in need of a new phablet device
    ~My $0.02~
  • I'm with you on that.
  • Me too Posted via Android Central App
  • I hope it stays closer to 5 inches. I really want a new nexus device but I don't want a phablet Posted via Android Central App
  • It's code name is ''Shamu'' for a reason dude. It's going to be big. :)
  • DL confirmed the Shamu and size and the fact Google is Giving motorola it's official nexus device, even though most consider the D1 a nexus device because it was vanilla, and if it comes to verizon I'll be buying it, or getting the Moto X+1, I waited a whole year just for the 2nd gen Moto X, and have waited 4 years for a Moto Nexus This is a great year for phones.
  • I find LG G3 my perfect phone/screen size. What's your "phablet's size"?
  • I want a phablet with real small bezels.
  • I hope it's 6 inches. I really want a new Nexus device. Also want VoLTE and 700 Mhz. A 128 Gb microSD slot would be perfect.
  • Free Willy Posted via Android Central App
  • It seems a lot of people are excited about it. I would never get a phone that big but I'm not upgrading from my N5 this year anyway so I don't care.
  • The Nexus 1 was the best Nexus made so far...The Nexus 5 comes really close though.
  • Gosh everytime I think about NEXUS I see a dreadful dull boring day to day smartphone experience. Poor battery draining, crappy camera, and putrid storage options just a sad disaster for those bargain basement price break product shoppers. Now this comical silly Shamu crap about a phablet stock Nexus handset it can't get no worse than this. Imagine a battery draining stock phablet trying to enter into Samsung's space where the Galaxy Note products are king nothing else compares to Note products. After October I need something to laugh out bring out that flop SHAMU so Note user can laugh at another pretender. From my Galaxy Note 3 on Tmobile via Android Central App
  • What makes your Note 3 so much less boring. They are both Android phones and thus can run the same apps... So it must be all the bloat your phone is filled with? Cluttered, hideous, laggy UI? Does that keep you busy trying to find ROMs that make the thing work as it should?
  • Sorry but if you think the g3 doesn't compete with with the note 3, you are a joke. I own a samsung. And I know how bad the software is. I acknowledge that. Stop living in denial Richard, just admit that Sense, Stock, and LG's skin beat out Touchwiz. Posted via My Ever-Bloated S4
  • I love the Note 3 (daily driver) I love the G3 (work tester). If you would have Stopped at Sense, you would be right. Stock is crap, boring and does the camera software the exact wrong way. LG and TW are equals in forma and functionality. Go read the LG G3 review, do not just take my word for it.
  • Read the G3 review.
    LG and TW are NOT equals in form and functionality.
  • You know how I know you never touched a Note 3 and are just spewing the same old Samsung hate song?
  • ZZZZ I think the only thing in space is your brain. Your trolling has become boring now. Have you lost your touch? lol
  • It got old months ago, maybe years
  • 4 specs at half the cost. Posted via my One + ONE
  • Be and let be, man.
  • Really? Because my Nexus is anything but boring. By boring, do you mean not having bloatware? Nexus 5 is beautiful, and stock Android is specifically built for it by Google. Not to mention it doesn't have a Pentile display. What a drag that was, having two of them, and their crappy comic (sort of a pun, no?) book sort of look. Love this clear, crisp Nexus 5 screen. Can't wait for (hopefully) this new 2K LG IPS display. Keep your Samsung and keep hating progress and new things. Stay in the dark and you won't long for the light.
  • 1. Stock was not built for the Nexus, it was the other way around
    2. The G2..sorry Nexus 5 is a decent looking device
    3. Please do not hold your breath for a 2k display, especially since Nexus could be dead
    4. Name me one thing that a Nexus has been a leader on. They are the opposite of progress. is fine to like your phone, but do not fall into the "It is the best EVAR!!!" trap.
  • Getting updates first. Nexi are the leaders in getting updates first. Posted via Android Central App
  • Which makes them the perfect representation of progress.
  • I do not know where your "fanboy" comment went, but just by making that statement I know you have never read any of my writing here on AC. I have a Note 3, I prefer the LG G3 to the S5, I laughed at the people that said the Moto X was "mid-Range", I prefer Sense over any other skin (or stockish) and last but not least... I have a great job that allows me to play with each major release for at least a month so I actually have an informed opinion. Now knowing all this, what exactly am I a fanboy of?
  • Didn't the Moto X beat a Few Nexus devices out of the last update... Yeah it did. I do appreciate how the Nexus family BETA tests every new release so that the rest of us can get not.1 or .2 or .3 but the final .4 release that is ready for other phones. Yeah that is not a plus....
  • But factory images remember. It comes out first you just gotta use a factory image. And I agree about the "beta testing" with the nexi. Posted via Android Central App
  • No it didn't
  • 1. Yeah, true. Goes both ways though.
    2. Being based on the G2 is nothing to be ashamed about. In fact, it's probably a good thing. I've had a few Samsungs, and now two LGs, and have had a much better experience in almost every possible way with LG.
    3. Hating again...
    4. Unlocked. Stock Android. Price. Simple design with no front buttons. There's more too.
    5. I really do believe the Nexus line has the best phones. RE: 4. I don't want non-stock Android with bloatware, and I do not want an iPhone. Therefore, Nexus.
  • 1. AOSP was first, then they made a Nexus for developers, it does not go both ways. The chicken and the eggtheory does no go here.
    2. No nothing to be ashamed of taking after the G2, but if it has to be a copy it is nothing special
    3. No not hating. Nexus devices have never been cutting edge and with (1) device with a resolution like that, and with the development cycle of a phone, it is very unlikely.
    4. I can buy cheap, unlocked stockish phones (Nexus is not longer actually stock) with a better camera and a better battery life.
    5. it is great that you like Nexus and I have no qualms with your semi-stockish Android phone...except that it falls short of being the "God" that it is made out to be. Hopefully SILVER will get it right and you can enjoy the experience others do. Enjoy your phone. I will enjoy my feature rich, great camera and battery life one. The joy of Android is that we have a choice. The problem with A
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  • Whatever predisposed BS negativity rovex and NoNexus impart, the solidly built ergonomic Nexus 5 has a high resolution bright true colors IPS LCD 3 display and the camera has Optical Image Stabilization. And availability and price is great.
  • Dude, are there any android blogs that you DON'T troll??
  • Then you want the Note 4
  • Nexus one is still the best looking nexus IMO
  • I lovvvvveeeed my nexus one. I used to call it my little sexy nexy ( clearly had issues). That's the first android phone I got super excited for. Posted via Android Central App
  • It was my first Android phone. Nothing before that made me want to ditch my BB Bold.
  • I remember reading about it in college. I was still using the G1 overclocking it to something like...600Mhz? I just remember reading the rumors of the Nexus 1 coming out with a 1Ghz processor and being so upset I wouldn't be able to afford it. Good thing I spent my money on college tho because now I buy whatever phone I want! :D
  • Here here! Posted via Android Central App
  • codeda Wrote: "I used to call it my little sexy nexy" Rajesh Koothrappali? Is that you????
  • The Nexus One was really well-designed, but I think the N4 was the best-looking phone I've ever used. And it was just the perfect size.
  • Yep. Nexus 4 was the best looking IMO. The Nexus One is right behind it though.
  • Until you dropped it and shattered the glass, then you have an iPhone
  • I did drop it a few times, without a case. It didn't end up with any damage at all. It seems to me that the issues with N4 and iPhone 4/4S glass backs were a case of a relatively small number of bad stories making it look like there was a problem far out of proportion to how bad it really was. I'd love to see some device failure statistics for both the N4 and iPhone 4/4S.
  • Yours is special glass....but yeah I would love to see statistics
  • As an aside, one of the people I went to a concert with last night broke her Nexus 5, which was less than 48 hours old. It was apparently the sixth phone she's broken this year. That's like one phone ever five weeks. Unreal.
  • My daughter has an iPhone (you can raise them but eventually they make mistakes) and she is EXACTLY like that. The best one was when she went to the mall to get the back replaced at one of the stands. It was located on the second floor. She did not make it down the escalator without breaking the back...and the front.
  • Tell her that the next time she breaks a phone, this is her next replacement: Fear is a powerful motivator.
  • LOL...I thought you were going that route before I opened the link. Fortunately not my problem anymore she is 21 and can fix her own stuff...I paid for way too many at this point
  • I wish HTC would make the next Nexus, with Boom Sound, thinner bezels, better specs than the M8, and a better camera (13+Mp) maybe closer in size and design to the M7. And of course android L with none of this Sense nonsense... See what I did there. Posted via Android Central App
  • It's been made already . Name's LG G3.
  • Too bad the G3 doesn't run stock Android. Posted via Android Central App
  • Nor BoomSound
  • There is a song made jsut for you:
  • I'd be upset if I didn't already like that song. Posted via Android Central App
  • I guess you can hope that there's a Google Play Edition of whatever HTC's next flagship is?
  • I had such a love hate relationship with the Galaxy Nexus. The hype for it was crazy nutz! I loved the curved display and the whole body! Battery wasn't the greatest and neither was the camera. I was having financial issues at the time with school and when I finally got it, after a month, I had to sell it for school books ( I wasn't happy at all) and go back to my samsung captivate :( 2 months later I sold some random things in my place in a desperate attempt to get my Nexus prime back ;) and I was successful! I loved that phone no matter how shitty the battery was! If I could have that design with the internal components of my Nexus 5 I so would!!!
  • I had the VZW GNex, and I loved everything about the phone except for the god-awful battery life. I should've bought the unlocked GSM version and stuck with AT&T.
  • My roommate at the time has the vzw gnex and that baby got hot when LTE was enabled! Battery lasts a solid 2 hours if being used lol Posted via Android Central App
  • Yeah, if I was going to be away from a charger for a long time, I would turn off LTE, which was a compromise I wasn't willing to make regularly (especially since Verizon's 3G is garbage). I ditched VZW when the N4 came out and went back to AT&T.
  • bring on Shamu!!! the G-Nex felt best in hand IMO. it was like a perfect curved ergonomic extension of body and mind. the Nexus 5 feels pretty damn good though. i'll trade some feel in hand for larger display size any day. Sprint Palm Centro--->OG Sprint EVO 4G--->Sprint G-Nex--->Nexus 5 + AT&T GoPhone
  • I absolutely love the Galaxy Nexus...minus the camera lol. I still have the phone but I'm in need of an upgrade already haha. Based on the rumors, the next Nexus will definitely be my next phone. Finally a Nexus phablet!!
  • Yeah, I was skeptical about the GNex's curved screen (I skipped the Nexus S), but I was really pleasantly surprised by it. It felt great in the hand, and it was much more natural than other phones when actually talking on the phone.
  • Ive had some really bad experience with my nexus 5, which i have traded in for GS5 yesterday. So far i think ive made a good decision. I see no lag with my GS5 at all. Here are my few problems i had with Nexus 5. 1. Hideous light bleeding
    2. Losing data connectivity at least twice a day
    3. No micro sd card support
    4. Not water resistent
    5. Horrible speaker
    6. Sub par camera
    7. weird sound when video recording So yeah i wont come back to nexus for a while. Posted via Android Central App
  • Totally agree with you. Not so sure about 3 and 4, they are more choices than issues, but the rest are bang on.
  • Ah yeah those are more of benefits of GS5 over nexus 5... Posted via Android Central App
  • I do not agree with you on Number 3. HTC LG and Samsung now have SDcard support in major phone releases. I, as a programmer, understand the issues with SD card (both security and confusion) but for Google to unilaterally cut support and then restrict it when it is supported points to only one thing. They want the cloud to work, and preferably Google Drive. Google, in AOSP, need to reinstate all support for SD cards but set guidelines for the OEMs that need to be followed.
  • Have you noticed lag with the camera app when you're opening it? Also, do you notice that the camera sometimes fails to focus and won't take the picture when you press the shutter button? Those are the two main issues I've heard about with the galaxy s5. Otherwise all the people I know who got it are very happy with their purchase. Posted via Android Central App
  • My wife upgraded to one and she does not have either issue. She loves it (hates change so the new software took a bit for her to come around to)
  • Well, you knew there was no removable storage and that the camera was average going in; and lack of water resistance isn't what I would call a problem, it's hardly standard amongst flagship devices. Preferring the SGS5 cause of WR or whatever is one thing, but calling it a Nexus 5 problem is a stretch. I've got no connectivity or light bleed problems with mine, and the bottom speaker is loud enough and ends up working better than rear speaker on my HTC EVO LTE (the OG EVO speaker was still louder tho, that thing was a beast). Battery could be better but it's hardly an Achilles' heel, it's just not the best out there. If you look at Anandtech's tests, N5 battery is mostly outclassed by newer/larger phones and the G2, it does better than the Moto X and most of last year's flagship phones. My only Nexus 5 regret is getting it so fast and missing out on the red one!
  • SO you got one that was made as intended (not joking here) Lots of complaints about the Nexus 5, I thought it was the best of the bunch
  • Nexus needs to return to what made the N One great, quality. The Nexus 5 was a low point. I disagree with Alex, the N5 isnt under rated, its massively over rated, especially on fan sites like this. The software UX and UI is old, and was buggy for months at launch (L cant come soon enough) with OEM phones providing so many benefits over it its unreal. Performance is over rated to. OK its nippy, but load it with third party apps and its no faster than any other comparable device. The hardware is still no more than OK in any area. The S800 was the only high end thing about it. 2GB of RAM was standard fair, the camera was never up to much, the speaker always rubbish and the screen completely awful. Build was low end, the design bland. It was cheap I guess, but I don't think the price made it a bargain. The price was about right for the quality you got, nothing more than that.
  • I throw my scoffing at your direction.
  • Well of course you do. The nSheep are as bad as the iSheep
  • Someone disagrees with you and they are a sheep? A sheep calling a sheep a sheep perhaps?
  • I'll agree that the Nexus 5 isn't without some issues, but I don't think it's as bad as you guys are making it out to be. Buggy software is an issue, but not really the hardware's fault. Signal dropping is a definite issue, and pretty inexcusable at this point, but it seems common among all manufacturers, or at least I've experienced it on every Android phone I've owned - Samsungs, HTCs and now the Nexus. Otherwise, I think there's very little to fault the 5 for. I've yet to see a case made for more than 2 gigs of ram on a phone, especially with newer Android releases being lighter on hardware requirements. I've never been dissatisfied by the quality of the camera, and while it's a decidedly plastic phone, it's very solidly built, unlike the Galaxy Nexus, which felt like a cheap $5 plastic child's toy in comparison. But what I really disagree with is the screen. You must have gotten a defect if you find it to be completely awful. Either that or you prefer the unnatural, over-the-top saturation of amoled screens. I find the Nexus 5's screen to be pretty amazing.
  • Actually I prefer blacks that are black, rather than very grey and a screen that can be viewed from more than 5 degree off dead centre without going completely white. Colours are good, i grant you that, but the issues are so massive it made it unusable for me. This picture is from the Phandroid review and ive yet to see an N5 that doest look this bad. It would be almost OK if it only happened at extreme angles, but it doesn't, it happens at very small angles.
  • My N5 screen never goes completely white off centre if it's displaying something, no matter how extreme an angle... I don't think that picture represents what you think it does, or you aren't properly expressing your complaint, or there was huge sample variation... Mine is from launch day tho.
  • Yours must be the only one then. That picture expresses the problem perfectly. All those phones are supposed to be displaying a black screen. Every N5 ive ever seen does it. Mine first one was launch day and it did it, it then failed and was replaced just under a month later, that one did it to. I eventually couldn't handle it any more so returned it. A few months ago I tried again, but all the ones in store did the same thing, as has every single other N5 ive seen.
  • Ok, so contrast isn't great off angle, but that isn't what you said. You keep saying it completely washes out which is not even remotely true (or you don't know what washing out completely means). I can turn my N5 to most extreme angle before I can no longer see the screen and I can still see EVERYTHING on this site and grey keyboard is still a different hue than the black button bar at the bottom. Blacks lacking contrast IN COMPARISON to another phone is one thing, the screen completely washing out at extreme angles is another (and also false).
  • Oh ok I can just about see whats on screen, barely, that's hardly a good thing. The picture about says it all, its white, it should be black, end of story.
  • Either you're vastly exaggerating, or you received a seriously defective phone. In no way, shape or form does your picture even remotely express the screen on my Nexus 5. Even at a glancing angle, there's still plenty of contrast, it just looses a modest, and perfectly acceptable, amount of brightness. And while not absolute black, the blacks simply can't be described as gray.
  • Having used the N5 for 6 months I have to totally disagree with your perception of the N5. The screen is very good, the software runs great (I experienced none of the "buggy" experience you mention, and the camera has been pretty fantastic for me. I've never felt it to be underpowered, though your statement that it is on-par with many other phones can't be a "knock" against it as there are many great Android phones available right now (which is a good thing!). I do agree that the chassis isn't sexy, but my (current) bright red N5 certainly turns heads LOL. I can't ell ya how many people ask me what case I am using and then I hand them the phone and say "None!". Love that color.
  • Its not a knock that it was on par, the issues is more with those who claim its the pinnacle of performance when its not and never was.
    I had a G2 and an N5 at the same time, I found the G2 faster most of the time and far far more functional. The camera was poor, although it did get a bit better with successive updates. Its still very average though. The screen just horrified me, see my post above with the picture from Phandroid. I couldn't handle that, it was a complete deal breaker,
  • You want proof of buggy? How many minor revisions were there just to fix stuff?
  • Couldn't disagree more. It is a huge bargain and value for the price. It feels like a quality phone to me and has been reliable and very fast. It wasn't designed to be an ultra high-end phone, and that is OK. It is simple, functional, affordable, nice, and generally a pleasure to use. About the ONLY thing I don't like about it is the power button on the side.... and that is just a personal preference.
  • Each to his own, but to me it wasn't a cheap high end phone it was a low end phone made more expensive by a high end CPU. The compromises made in quality of build and components that surrounded the CPU were far to great.
  • Agree to disagree
  • I thought the Nexus 5 was a really great phone, and the only reason I sold it for an M8 was battery life. All the other qualities of the phone were very solid. I really enjoyed the stock Android experience. My hope is that the Nexus 6 has better battery life. The rumored 5.9" screen has me very interested. Posted via Android Central App
  • I actually prefer the side power button, easier to hit than top, and I haven't found it to be any more buggy than any of my previous three HTC phones, like at all.
  • $530 (Nexus One) vs $350 (Nexus 5). Probably not going to happen. They have to make concessions to sell as cheap as they do and build materials is one way to do that.
  • Going somewhere in the middle and making the phone not look and feel like junk would be better. Im not expecting a metal and sapphire phone, I just want something that doesn't look like a half finished beta that was rushed out..
  • You're really grasping at straws, I agree it doesn't have the design appeal of an HTC One (at least from afar and on the store shelf), but I don't know where you get half finished beta. I guess anything that doesn't scream industrial design and "look at me" looks like a half finished beta to you.
  • Its pretty obvious it was rushed out, both the device itself and KitKat. Anyone who understands design quality knows this. Ive seen better pre-release development units than the N5. In fact I should like the N5, its simple and industrial, but its far to shoddy to be a retail unit.
  • Maybe give some examples? In what ways is it shoddy? It's plastic, yes. It's light, yes, so it doesn't feel premium. But there's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't break apart when you squeeze it or drop it. There are no misaligned parts. There are no signs of manufacturing defects on the units I've seen... So? Design wise, bezels are small, buttons are tactile and well placed, speaker on bottom is better than on back, no garish branding.
  • The fact that they had to release a mk2 version so soon after the initial release says a lot. Even that one still has the awful screen, still has poor audio, and rather too many get returned because of dust under the screen.
    Its just the whole design, its just as basic box of phone parts, little consideration was made for quality.
  • I have an original version and there's nothing wrong with it. The screen is not awful. It's the best calibrated screen on an Android phone. The washout when viewed at certain angles is really the screen's only issue, and it's not as bad as the washout on Sony's phones up to the Z2. Haven't seen complaints of dust under the screen. Every phone has poor audio except the Ones. Whatever man, take your exaggerated negatives and try to convince someone else.
  • The original was redesigned to better seal the screen, improve the buttons (which rattled), and sort the speaker, which was actually a faulty design. If you are happy with it, it explains why we dont agree and never will.
  • Wait, you're basing the "shoddy" observation on the fact that a device late in the run is different from one from the start? Every manufacturer does this with nearly every phone...
  • Not to that degree, less 1 month in. They HAD to know the first release was as bad as it was. Its pretty clear neither the hardware nor the software was really ready. Besides its not like the revised version was much better, it only fixed a few really bad issues.
  • Must only be obvious to a "design quality" connoisseur like you.
  • Or anyone with standards really. The glass edges arent even polished, they are just ground, its cheap and shoddy.
  • I dont even care what phone anyone has, this is about the N5, nothing else.
  • If you say so. I am just saying you kinda come off smug whenever a nexus posts comes around.
  • Maybe because its given way to much coverage for its importance. Its a low seller that the public doesnt care about.
  • You should know that AC is not the general public and here are a bit "nerdier" therefore the N5 is much more praised on AC. Nothing wrong with that. Alex did the little write up for the N5 and I would say he is the most level headed AC writer (though they all are) and he has good things to say.
  • Im painfully aware of how pro-nexus this site is. Nerdy doesnt excuse the lose of the ability to reason. Praise the Nexus for what it is by all means, a stripped out, basic, cheap, development device, but talk it up as some sort of god phone and I will laugh at you.
  • So if it is "painfull" to visit a site that is supposedly so "pro-nexus" and you don't like that stance.. why do you come? Glutton for punishment?
    One of my pet peeves for any website or anything in life in general are people who hate something, bitch and moan about it but keep doing it.
  • Its not all bad here. Actually I found a lot of the article quite reasonable. I still think people will put up with any old crap if its called a Nexus.
  • My N5 can beat up your N5!
  • Dosent matter who wins, they are both losers
  • no way jose
  • I am a software engineer / app developer and I disagree on so many points. Stock Android is well thought out and clean. Skins from other manufacturers are all cluttered with features thrown in like candy on halloween that are rarely thought out or well executed. Stock Android is starting to look a bit dated, but that will be fixed with Android L very shortly. I have only experienced one minor bug with my Nexus 5. Very stable. Performance of the Nexus 5 continues to be better than any other Android phone available. How is that overrated? I have owned a Moto X, OnePlus One, and One M8 as well, and have compared them all side by side with my Nexus 5. None of them perform as well as the Nexus 5, despite two of them having better specs. After converting the One M8 to a Google Play Edition with stock Android, it performs very similarly to the Nexus 5, but definitely not better. I have also played with the Galaxy S5, Note 3, and G3 extensively, and these don't come close to the performance of the N5. The camera may not be as good as the S5 or G3 in bright conditions, but it's better than both in low light, and it beats the Moto X, OnePlus One, and One M8 in any conditions. It's a good camera. Very comparable to my wife's iPhone 5, which is quite good. The speaker isn't super loud or clear, but it's on par with most other phones these days. The screen does wash out at certain angles, but viewed head on, it's great. One of the only Android phones that shows colors as they're supposed to be. Definitely not the best, but definitely not awful, or even bad, either. It's good. Build quality is cheap. I will give you that.
  • We will have to disagree. KKs interface is just old and dull. I agree Touchwiz is messy and many others have unnecessary features, but that doesnt make Stock any better. Its not the simplness thats the problem, its the look and feel. Performance is over rated. Straight out of the box its speedy, thats true, but as I said, load it up and it starts to slow up quite a lot. My G2 is faster, especially when running ART, my friends M8 is much faster. My G2 actually has only 20MB less free RAM at boot! I never liked the camera, images always needed a lot of work to make them decent. Even compared to my old M7 its nowhere.
  • Now I know you're joking. It's one of the only Android phones I've ever used that DOESN'T slow down when you install a bunch of apps. Can't speak for the G2, but the M8 is NOT faster. I own one of those as well. It drops more frames, plain and simple. Do the shorter animations fool you? The M8 does a super short animation when you open an app, and then you stare at a blank app for another solid second or two while the app finishes loading. Meanwhile, the N5 doesn't have such a short app loading animation, but it will get the app content loaded up quicker than the M8, and drops less frames when scrolling.
  • I disagree, and even some of the guys from this site disagree, so I guess we will have to disagree. I have an N5 here, my G2 beats it just about every single time. Its not about animations at all, both are faster at actually doing stuff.
  • I got a Nexus S 4G... and my honeymoon with that ended pretty quick. I was lucky Sprint had a pretty good replacement program because I went through 4 phones in my 2 year contract (2 for GPS issues, once because it just wouldn't turn on).
    I wiped the phone recently and it still runs frustratingly slow. I opt to use my old HTC Hero over the NS4G when I want to do some wifi stuff while my Nexus 4 charges. My Nexus 4 isn't perfect but I still love it and it's probably the best phone I've had. It gets ridiculously hot and puts a yellow streak across the screen, but it still runs like a champ. Switching from Sprint to unlocked, no contract plans changed my life. If a phone as good and as low in price as the Nexus phones didn't exist, I'd probably still be paying way too much and be stuck on contracts.
  • That was their worst nexus I think. It was single core when dual core was released and that pentile screen was at about the peak of the bad pentile screens.
  • Still loving it. Via a cool AC App on a great Nexus 4
  • Nexus 1 FTW. My introduction into Android. Truly a devs phone. They made FM possible when they said it couldn't be done. This was clocking at 1.0 when it said it couldn't be done. That was the best dev phone. Ever. Posted via Android Central App
  • Thats probably because the Nexus One was probably the last truly 'dev' phone. All the others are just Google retail products, this is especially true of the N5 which isnt even running fully stock Android out of the box.
  • Your true colors are showing.
  • Oh really? At what would they be? Did i say anything wrong in that comment or is it just a case of must argue with anyone who dislikes the N5 (as happens a lot on here)?
  • Seems to be more you disagreeing with everyone who likes aspects of the N5. Not vice-versa.
  • When I find something to like I'll let you know.
  • Maybe that's the issue here. Don't be such a Debbie downer.
  • Purely a counterpoint to the overly gushing praise it doesn't deserve. Simple fact thats become obvious to me, if the N5 was exactly the same price, performance and hardware, but ran Touchwiz and was called a Samsung it would be hated for the reasons I hate it. Suddenly the screen would be an issue, the speaker would be bad, the build would be 'cheap samsung plastic'.
  • OK. I am just here to counterpoint your counterpoint and say people can like whatever the hell they want to. But there always has to be that one guy that is like "NO YOU CAN'T LIKE THAT! BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT!"
  • I never said anyone cant like it, im just saying why I don't and why i disagree. You seem to be the one getting all childish about it. No one has actually said, yeah its got flaws but I like it, instead they are defending the flaws, or denying them. Thats fanboyism.
  • I am childish? And you are throwing around the term "fanboy" ok. People like the N5 get over it. Or continued your crusade to be a giant buzzkill. I am cool with it either way.
  • Fanboy is now in the Oxford Dictionary, its a very valid word and fits very well. Using all caps and excessive exclamation marks however.. Fact is this running argument proves my point..
  • *it's I am using them sarcastically, but clearly that went... over... your... head.
  • Only losers resort to such tactics.
  • Hahaha... I don't think there are any "winners" in this conversation. But if you feel better about yourself go ahead and give that back of yours a big ol' pat.
  • I won as soon as people started denying the obvious. I didn't start this, i just gave my opinion, but apparently its not an officially sanctioned opinion according to the Nexus diehards.. I cant argue people being happy with their phone, but as I said denying the obvious flaws is just idiotic.
  • I'm done. the circles are making me dizzy.
    Just so we are clear:
    YOU: N5 sucks, its a shoddy phone and people overly praise it.
    ME: Let people like what they like.
  • I gave my opinion, I didnt ask for this long boring conversation. Remember it wasn't me that started this. Others have criticised other Nexus' and havent been jumped on.
  • You could have stopped responding to me at any time. You are just as much responsible for your actions as myself. Remember that..
  • You could have just not responded at all, even better!
  • There are no Winners if you own a Nexus as well. The best you can hope for is to break even
  • -_-
    I don't own a Nexus anymore. But I will fight tooth and nail to support it or the likes of it. Because if I ever decide to go that route again I want options.
    But I won't argue with you NoNexus I generally enjoy hearing your side of it. ಠ益ಠ
  • The N5 was decent, if they have a N6 (hope not, go SILVER) it could be actually one that I praise. Camera and battery were the only really killers, for me, on the N5
  • My favorite is the Nexus 4, it really is the classiest looking phone I've seen. It get flacks for the back glass, but I use Xtremeguard screen protector on it and never had issue, which also prevent it from sliding. The design is great, the curved edges make smooth swiping and the it actually have one of the most comfortable grip out of any phone I've used so far, as good as the Moto G and even better than the Moto X. For protection, it also work really well with a TPU bumper without scarifying look, the after market Abacus bumper is better quality than the official Google one. Lack of LTE wasn't an issue for me because I flashed the LTE enabled modem to make it work with Band 4. The main downfall of the phone is the low contrast screen, quiet rear speaker and low battery life, although with a good kernel or just managing wakelock issues, I could push 4-5hours screen on time with. It might still be a good back up phone to have once Android L is released for it. Definitely better than the Moto G while being the same price or less for a used one, except in the battery department.
  • I didn't even use a case on my N4, and I never had an issue. The back glass stood up to plenty of punishment. Considering my experience with it, I was really surprised that so many people complained about it.
  • I don't use a case on my Nexus 4 either. One time I even fell asleep with it on the couch and was startled when I woke up. Knocked the phone on my wood floor and was sure at least the back was cracked. I saw no visible damage.
  • Their unannounced revision that added the two tiny bumps on the back made a huge difference. The early adopters didn't have that and the glass rested directly on whatever surface the phone was put down on leading to a lot of scratches.
  • Yeah, the rubber bumps were a very good addition, and probably should've been included from the outset. That said, I had the original version (I think I ordered mine on release day) and never had any issues. When I sold mine, it didn't have any scratches at all.
  • The Nexus 4 was the best feeling phone in hand IMO. Loved the glass front and back.
  • I almost joined the nexus family this week. I was this close to getting a Nexus 5 on Monday. Got a invite for A OnePlus One and went with that instead. Who knows, maybe a nexus 6 early next year for me. I love this brand.
    Posted via my LG LS740 and The Android Central App
  • This is one of the best articles I have ever read on Android Central. Love you guys. :) And yes, right now I am waiting for the Nexus 6 and the Moto X+1. If none of them is appealing enough, I might end up getting the Nexus 5 soon. I love the design of the Nexus 5 and this, in my opinion, is THE BEST designed phone after the Lumia 800.
    P.S. Yeah, no HTC One M8 or iPhones feature on my list of best designed phones coz I really like the matte effect on the back. Hence I feel the HTC One M7 was better designed.
  • "finally casting off the chains of Android's lag-ridden pasty." Mmmmnnn...pastie....
  • My first Android was the Nexus S, followed with the my opinion the 2 best looking of the whole lot. Here's hoping a Nexus 6 will bring back the sexy!
  • Got the nexus 4 ordered on the day it became available and battled the overloaded servers and got my order through. The 4 truly stole my heart. I passed on the 5 because I was unimpressed. Later traded an S4 for the N5 and still have the N5 for tinkering and playing with android L. Daily driver is S5. Good battery and durable always on the go as a soldier. Posted via Android Central App
  • My guess is that it will happen, that there will be a 5.9" Nexus 6, and that Google will use this as an opportunity to show off the best reason for Android Wear. You can have bigger, faster phones that you only have to fish from your pocket occasionally.
  • Fantastic Article.......just shows how great a run Nexus has been. I really do hope Google does not abandon it (or change it from it's current iteration). I've owned the Nexus S, the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5. The Nexus 4, to me, was just a pleasure to use. That chassis with "stock" Google experience was a dream, but the lack of LTE ultimately pushed me to the GS4, which I quickly abandoned for the Nexus 5. The N5 is a great phone, held back by pedestrian battery life. I have never had any issues with the camera and feel it is better than most other shooters available on the market today......and I would have stuck with the N5 except for am on a G3 and though I still love the N5 (I regularly pull it out and turn it on to update it), I don't miss it as mcuh as I thought, as the G3 is an excellent phone (so far).
  • I don't want a Nexus 6, I want to see a Nexus 5-2. Absolutely no interest in anything larger than 5" screen; and I am FAR from alone on this. I love the N5, but would love to see a version with more battery life, and stereo speakers. It would be great to have MULTIPLE Nexus phones of different sizes on the market at the same time... choice is good....but I doubt that will happen.
  • They should keep the Nexus 5 as well if they really wish to launch a monstrous device in the name of Nexus 6. 6 inches is way too big for several people, including me of course. The Nexus 5 can stay one more year.
  • 5.5" on my Note 2 was too much to handle for me. But LG G3's 5.5" is just perfect, even in an ultra slim $3.5 ebay case I got for it.
  • Well, Silver promises to be sort of what you're asking for (as far as choices), tho pricing will not probably be Nexus 4/5-like... Stereo speakers on a phone are a gimmick, I'm not saying Boomsound is crap mind you, but two speakers inches apart will NEVER recreate true stereo imaging, ever, it's psychics. Having two can raise perceived loudness by about 3dB but that's about it. Boomsound sounds good cause they just dedicated more space to speakers and they're firing in the right direction, period, but one would probably sound just as good. I'd like a front firing speaker, but I'd probably prefer water resistance before that, and I'd take a larger battery over either. Can live without all three tho, and I hope they never sacrifice Qi charging either. I doubt I'll upgrade my N5 this year anyway.
  • Agree on most everything you said; except I do think that stereo speakers would be useful, not just because of being louder. BTW- your ears are not that much further apart than either side of a typical phone :)
  • Right, but ears work very differently than speakers... You absolutely need more distance between the latter for true stereo separation. Hard left/right pans aren't stereo either, they're as artificial as sound imaging can get.
  • I love my Nexus 5 Posted via Android Central App on Nexus 5 or LG G2
  • I've had my Nexus 4 since March 2013 and still loving it today. It still feels fast by today's standard and the phone has proved it's build quality in the test of time (although I cheated by using wooden textured dBrand skin on the glass back coz it's so damn cool). Hoping for the next Nexus 6. If it comes out this year, I'll probably get it by the end of the year, provided it offers good battery life and not so expensive price tag. It doesn't have to be dirt cheap like N4 and N5, but please don't go to over $400. And better not be too big of screen. My girlfriend's N5 still feels comfortable in my hand. But a 5.9 inch smartphone is not my cup of tea Posted via Android Central App on Nexus 4
  • Love my N5. Yeah the battery is just meh but it's light years ahead of my old phone. Camera is fine in hdr mode, except for some wonky focusing still. I'm not moving on any time soon. Posted from my Nexus 5 via Android Central App
  • All of the phones are overrated, underperforming and unexplainably loved. For each year that the Nexus was made I can find a better phone from either HTC, Samsung or Motorola. I hope the Nexus line dies and silver sets a new standard for ''stock'' phones. Especially since the Nexus is no longer AOSP, it won't matter. Since I know I am the only one that would dare commit a sacrilege by saying that, flame on. I am busy this afternoon but I will get into it with you later Posted via Android Central App
  • I was searching for your Nexus is doomed comments.Now I can finally sleep in peace
  • Glad to hear it.
  • Oh and check this out
    Google must love exploring workshops for your so called dying line Posted via Android Central App using Asus Zenfone 5
  • You're aren't the only one. See rovex's comments above.
  • Couldnt agree more. Its a shoddy second rate line of junk devices that Google is pushing like its the pinnacle of Android. No wonder iPhone users have a perception of Android as crap.
  • Can you find a better phone for the money tho... Battery life isn't the greatest but it's not awful either, better than the Moto X and most similarly sized phones from last year, just worse than this year's larger flagship phones. Since my phone isn't my primary camera, and I can live with the battery life and lack of removable storage, I actually consider it an amazing value. To upgrade to anything else with similar specs (outside of the PlusOne & X) would've cost me like $200/50%+ more. I hardly think it's the best phone EVAR, just very accessible and the best deal at it's price point. The Moto X got close but not at launch, and crucially for me, lacked Spark support (chances are it won't hold up as well over time either, based on specs alone, tho Moto's on a roll with updates right now).
  • Id rather have a Moto G than an N5 and its half the price. The LG G2 is actually cheaper than the N5 in the UK now, that really is a no brainer.
  • Sure if that is what you can afford or that is your price range they are fine, not average mind you, just relatively fine. One of the finer points is that if you but any other name on the back of the phone besides Google and/or Nexus, it would be a POS and DOA. But Google did it so it is revered throughout the land and the measuring stick upon all others are measured by. I do not just mean commentators either, also by reviewers.
  • I don't think it should be revered by any means, but I do think it's a good value. My phone isn't my primary camera, and I change them often, I'd much rather put that extra $200-300 towards a lens, a GPU, a new pair of headphones, whatever. I could see how someone whose phone is their primary camera would want more for their money tho, specially if keeping it for two years. I could afford any phone, i just don't see the value in paying much more for a camera I only use as a note taker and better battery life. You still didn't name a better phone for the price tho, and I do think the Nexus line (along with Moto) can help keep prices in check. Silver is gonna be very interesting, but if it's just GPE retail edition I'm not sure it'll gain much traction.
  • It's not meant to be a flagship phone you retard. And I prefer stock Android to Samsung's or LG's ugly skins.
  • Harsh. Maybe lets upgrade the conversation from middle school to high school.
  • You ask too much of the internet. :-P
  • Way to much credit to the internet there Joe
  • OK your right when it started out it was not meant that way. It was meant to be a developer device that didn't have any bells and whistles, nor was it meant to. Guess what, it is not that anymore, now the Nexus brand is the flagship line directly from Google. It is sold in stores. It is featured online, it has advertisements. They have tried to make it a consumer device. It gives Android a bad name. You cannot have it both ways. Make it either a barebones developer device (which it should be) or make it a consumer device and put a skin and features on it (which is what they are doing whether you like it or not) I prefer it to go back to being a developer device, sold through developer channels. They have had opportunity after opportunity to lead the way with OEMs and have taken the cowards way out everytime.
  • Nexus has ads? Posted via Android Central App on Google Nexus 7 2013
  • I hesitate to get into these kinds of discussions (user experience is subjective and it's often what's most important), and while I agree that some Nexus fans exaggerate the device's capabilities, its detractors aren't immune to exaggerating its faults. Calling the Nexus line "overrated, underperforming, and unexplainably loved" is every bit the overstatement that calling it "the best thing since sliced bread" is.,3871-7.html (AC gang: sorry for linking outside of AC) The N5 and HTC's latest offering perform rather similarly. And the N5 is roughly, what, six months older? If you say that the Nexus underperforms I can only conclude that you also believe the M8 underperforms. And you'd be pretty had pressed to find a better liked, better performing phone on the market today than the M8. The Nexus' price is often less than half that of OEM flagships. Given that price and performance it should be little surprise that it's so well liked. Imagine getting a Ferrari at Toyota prices. That's a damn good deal. And I'm hardly the line's number one fan. I've only owned one Nexus phone (and I didn't bother buying it new) and one Nexus tablet. Nearly every other phone and tablet I've owned has been a Samsung. Presenting an alternative view is important, but this quickest way to lose an argument is to overstate it.
  • I did not overstate anything, You jumped to a conclusion Under performance can be measure by WAY more than CPU benchmarks. The camera under performs compared to others released before and after. The battery really under performs. I could make a list back to the Gnex (I didn't have to think about developing for nor testing a Nexus before then) of how each under performs in their own special way. But to hear the tale told, Nexus is the only way to go. Skins are ugly, build is bad, sd slots are the debil, removable batteries are not needed....that list goes on too.
  • What you're saying, to continue the car analogy, is that Camry performs better than M4 because you have a preference for four doors, or better than an F1 car because the Camry has a roof. That's an esoteric use of the word performance, but to each his own, I suppose. Forgive me for thinking you might mean 0-60 or quarter mile times. (With one additional click the link I provided will give you more than just CPU benchmarks, by the way.) But enough of being pedantic. "But to hear the tale told, Nexus is the only way to go. Skins are ugly, build is bad, sd slots are the debil, removable batteries are not needed" Some people really do find the skins ugly. Some users have little use for SD slots over cloud storage. Most users have zero need for removable batteries. And none of these preferences translate to "Nexus is the only way to go" unless what they mean is "for me, Nexus is the only way to go". In which case, what does belittling their opinion really net you? May address the elephant in the room? At the risk of sounding simple, user preferences are wide and varied (shocker, right?). As rarefied as it might be, some people need to swap batteries; there are devices that allow them to, and that's a good thing. Some people find the OEM skins overbearing; there are devices that don't force them on the user, and that's also a good thing. Now can please stop confusing our own fancies and opinions with fact and put the OEM vs Nexus debate to rest? It's tiresome and banal.
  • NoNexus regularly distorts and over exaggerates with unbound authority. You illuminated it quite well this time.
  • As long as there continues to be a reasonably-priced, minimally-skinned, easily-unlocked device that's low on extra features and has factory images readily available, they can call it the Nexus line or the Silver line or iDroid for all I care. The major flagships have mostly been better than their same year's Nexus device, but the price difference (since the GNex, anyway) has been enough for me to overlook it. I mean, just to pick a device at random, the M7 is definitely superior to the N5 in a ton of ways, but is it $350 better? That's not chump change, even cash isn't tight.
  • It's $350 better if your phone is your primary camera, possibly (tho no phone could ever be my primary camera)... Any decent P&S would cost at least that much. Otherwise I'm with you, the current Nexus line represents a terrific value for me, but I don't mind supplementing my own apps for certain features and can deal with the lack of removable storage.
  • My phone is my primary camera, but I just don't take many pictures at all. I've never had much of an interest in photography. It would certainly be nice if the Nexus line had better cameras, but it doesn't affect me all that much if they cut corners with the camera to keep the price down.
  • I remember the Nexus S was the phone I convinced my brother to get. He had never owned a smartphone before then and I told him the whole point of having a Nexus. We went to a Best Buy to purchase the phone. In front of us was a guy buying an unlocked Motorola Razr. I didn't even know they were still selling those. His sub total came to $49.99. He finished paying and we told them what we wanted. My brother paid half and I paid half. When we got out of the store the guy that had bought the Motorola Razr asked us if the phone we had gotten was unlocked we answered him yes and then he asked us how much it had cost us. We told him and I swear to you it was like in that moment he crapped his pants. He started laughing and walking slowly backwards. After that my brother went to work for T-Mobile of which the manager that interviewed him was impressed in my brother owning a Nexus S. Greatest Nexus memory for me. Posted via Android Central App
  • Looking forward to using the Nexus 5 full time for a stretch when I get home from work today. I've loved the series from the start. Most underrated is the Nexus 4 - I used s T-Mobile version initially and it sucked. Then I got one and rooted and it then that sucker f-l-e-w speed wise with a Hellkat ROM I used. The Nexus S is still the best 4" phone I've ever used - that thing looked sweet with the screen off (Moto X looks just as good). Still, the Nexus One and the G. Nexus hold the top spots in my heart. Let's see who gets the Nexus 6 and how it rolls... Posted via Android Central App
  • Rating a phone should only be done with the software it came with. I can find you an AWESOME Touchwiz ROM for the S4 that will fly as well. Rooting should not be the answer
  • The Nexus One was my first smartphone (I don't count the Blackberry Pearl I had before that). I loved that thing, it introduced me to Android and I never looked back. The best part about it was that it kept getting better over time. It was on 2.1 when I got it and still miles ahead of the iphone 3gs and 2.2 made it 10x better.
  • I really enjoyed my GNex. It was a shame Verizon did not keep up with the Android updates OTA. I never really wanted to root it, but now I might since moving on to the Droid MAXX. The MAXX is very reminiscent of the GNex. No SD card slot and a nice simple settings menu. Nice feel and performance with a battery that actually has some life to it. No mystery pins on the side. It's been a blast with a Chromecast.
  • Great article, I'm really looking forward to the next Nexus. I've owned only 2, the GNex and N5, and liked both. The camera on the GNex was relentlessly trashed by reviewers, but I maintain that it took fine pictures in daylight, so that was never a problem for me. The worst part of the GNex was the sound volume: at MAX, I could barely hear it unless I was holding it in my hand. I missed countless calls when it was in my pocket. I loved using the GNex for navigation, but depending on how noisy the car was, I could barely hear the directions. I had to bring along a powered speaker in case I rented a car without an audio jack. I skipped the N4, mainly because there was no LTE. Also, I'm a function-over-form guy, and the pretty glass back was not a factor, especially since I always put a minimalist case on my phones anyway. I jumped at the N5, got it a week after release, and am still loving it. The software improvements have made the camera very enjoyable to use, it takes great HDR+, photospheres, panoramics, and the video has really helped me improve my golf game. I have a friend who loves their Note 3, and I think it's pretty cool too, so I don't think a Nexus 6 with a larger screen would necessarily be a bad thing. I just hope it has a removable battery, I really miss that from my GNex.
  • My Nexus 4 is still going strong! :D Posted with my Nexus 4
  • Tell me what phone besides the Nexus 5 meets the same specs and speed at the price its at? None! That's what makes it great. I had a galaxy nexus on Verizon and while I understand the complaints of the camera nexus phones are the only way yo go. People complaining about battery life root your phone get a battery efficient ROM and viola you are good. I usually get through a day browisnig playing game