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Is the HTC 10 water resistant?

There's a lot to like about the HTC 10 so far, which has been catching quite a few people by surprise. The phone looks like a top competitor, and that's fantastic news for anyone looking to buy something from HTC this year. One thing you can bet on with the HTC 10, you won't see Lil Wayne staring in amazement as he pours champagne on the still perfectly functional phone. The HTC 10 is rates IP53, which means not only is it not completely dust tight, but the phone can be damaged if it is sprayed with water.

You'll be fine with the phone in your pocket should you be caught in the rain, but you'd better steer clear of water if your phone isn't being covered by something.

To put that IP rating into perspective, recently what we've seen with phones and smartwatches is an IP66 or IP67 rating. That first number means the phone has been rated to be dust tight, so there's no concern of particulates damaging the inside of your phone. The second number is all about how much water the phone can handle safely. A 6 in that second number means it's ok if it gets splashed or hit with a super soaker, but can't handle total submersion. A 7 in that slot means the phone can handle brief submersion, but nothing on purpose for any extended period of time.

As you can imagine, a 3 in that second number is not great. That means the phone can handle sprays up to 60 degrees from vertical, but cannot handle sprays of water from every direction. You'll be fine with the phone in your pocket should you be caught in the rain, but you'd better steer clear of water if your phone isn't being covered by something.

This obviously isn't ideal, especially compared to phones that are either waterproof up to several feet or coated in a superhydrophobic layer to move water away from electronics, but is this a deal-breaker for you? Sound off in the comments.

Russell is a Contributing Editor at Android Central. He's a former server admin who has been using Android since the HTC G1, and quite literally wrote the book on Android tablets. You can usually find him chasing the next tech trend, much to the pain of his wallet. Find him on Facebook and Twitter

145 Comments
  • For $699 it should be water resistant! Posted via my Nexus 6
  • In this day and age it should be water resistant. I was actually on the fence about holding off on my s7edge upgrade but this just sealed it. Gotta have water resistance now.
  • Uh oh! What's the deal when one drops and shatters the water resistant glass slippery fish? https://www.androidcentral.com/e?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kqzyfj.com%2Fcli...
  • Cook it up ma-hi ma-hi style.
  • Thank God the htc doesn't have a glass screen and can't be broken.Thats brilliant! Posted via the Android Central App
  • What jimbo meant is that the HTC 10 has the UH-OH warranty https://www.androidcentral.com/e?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kqzyfj.com%2Fcli...
  • I don't mean to troll, at all, but why is this important to you? Never have I had a phone incident involving water damage. This seems like a made up problem that allowed for a "feature" to exist. Not to say water damage doesn't happen, but to let that swing your whole decision? Seems crazy to me.
  • Not a made up prblem. I recently accedently dropped my htc 10 in the toilet. It was in there for no longer than two seconds and it is fried. I sure wish it was waterproof.
  • Lol, this has literally not been a thing on 99% of phones until a couple of months ago and now it has to be a thing to justify a price that is less than competing flagships. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yeah, last thing I look for in a phone is if can be submerged in three feet of water. Last on the list. Maybe some do go into the pool or shower with their phone. Different strokes. Posted via Nexus 6 running on any data plan I want
  • I like the idea of not being worried about it getting wet in a heavy rainstorm, or if I spill a glass of water on it. I like knowing that if I accidentally drop it and it lands in a puddle, or the sink, or any water it will be OK. This is a good thing. If I am looking at 2 phones and both are roughly equal, it certainly helps make it an easy choice. Water resistant is better than not water resistant.
  • I hear you. Just isn't a big deal to me. I plan on maybe getting the new Nexus this year. If it isn't waterproof, not a problem. I'm not getting a Samsung just because it is. Posted via Nexus 6 running on any data plan I want
  • +1 Posted via the Android Central App
  • I have an Xperia Z and I love the water resistance. No careful cleaning when it's become dirty and smudgy from too much swiping while eating - just hold it under the tap and wash it clean. It's also handy for getting a call while in the shower or heavy rain too :P I'm a little surprised that HTC haven't included better water resistance in their new flagship. By itself, not enough to stop me buying it, but it's still a negative.
  • Eh, it's not about submerging it. It's about not having to worry if it gets wet when it rains. I spend a lot of time outdoors, and getting caught in the occasional sudden downpour is a thing that happens. Not needing a water-resistant case while hiking is nice.
  • Or if you accidentally spill coffee on it in the Monday morning meeting after a tough weekend. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yes,I like the phone a lot,but the rabid fanboy set will never admit it would be a good thing to have because they are afraid that would belittle their phone and themselves by association. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Being water and dust resistant is much more important than being a metal phone. Posted via the Android Central App on my Zuk Z1. Loving it.
  • Uh oh! And you can go jump in a lake. lol https://www.androidcentral.com/e?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kqzyfj.com%2Fcli...
  • Not with the m10 you're not.
  • How about the $100 off for a new product?
  • You are shilling pretty hard for another loser from HTC. Birds of a feather I guess Posted via the Android Central App
  • Agreed! Even better to have both. If they tout their relentless obsession so much, why stop with the metal body and not make the phone IP68?
  • To you.
  • Yes, it was my comment so it would be to me. I didn't say to you, did I? Posted via Nexus 6 running on any data plan I want
  • You just stated it outright, I just wanted to clarify. No biggie. Never mind, yours wasn't even the comment I was replying to lol. Oh this site is a mess. Can't you guys just use disqus?
  • My bad also for being so abrasive. Posted via Nexus 6 running on any data plan I want
  • Price less than competing? It costs the same as the s7 and slightly more than the g5...
  • Exactly! Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly. People got by just fine without having to submerge their phones in a toilet. And seriously after being submerged in a toilet you just pissed and shat in, are you going to want to ever use it again? If you care about your device you keep it from getting soaked. Simple. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's a good thing accidents never happen,especially if you have kids. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It is water resistant, and I think the title of this article is misleading. Liquid Ingress Protection level 3, as published by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC):
    "Test duration: 5 minutes
    Water volume: 0.7 litres per minute
    Pressure: 50–150 kPa" As far as dust protection, a certification of 5 is: "Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment" The official information kind of dismisses the "Lol, No. Not even a little"
  • Totally agree. If you are going to charge as much as a competitor, then you should darn well have the same basic features. Buying this would be paying more for less for me. Happy I didn't wait and went for the S7 instead. I knew HTC would let me down in some aspect. And they did.
  • Yeah this is the one thing I needed it to be. Pool season coming up. It's so nice not having to worry about my phone when I'm at the pool. For real. #firstworldproblems Posted via the Android Central App
  • Only one way to find out!! Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not a deal breaker in the slightest.
  • Sooner or later we will have dunk in the water video review in YouTube. Posted via the Android Central App from Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
  • And a smash with hammer, drop off building, and put it boiling water video also, because it's YouTube. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Let's not forget.... Will it blend? Lol
  • Dear Android Central, my tiger ate my HTC. Will it be all right when he poops it? He looks a little off colour, and he's not growling much, but when he let's one go it's got a familiar ring to it.
  • Not really. I've used a lot of phones without an IP-rating (the Note 6 might be the first to do so, since it's rumored that it might be IP68-rated) and I never damaged them due to liquids....FOR NOW. Just because I haven't damaged them due to liquid spills doesn't mean it won't ever happen, so having an IP-rated phone adds extra piece of mind. I'm a little bummed about the 10's lack of an IP-certification, but it doesn't keep me awake at night.
  • The HTC 10 is rated at IP53, and can handle a steady spray, under pressure, for at least five minutes. The article makes you think it has no protection at all, even though it mentions the IP rating. The M8 was rated at IPx3 (no dust resistance, water resistance to level 3). I have personally held my M8 under running water while scrubbing the screen. I have also stood in the shower and held a conversation on the phone, and surfed the web in the rain. No effect at all.
  • I missed the part where it said "IP53". Oops. I don't think this is going to any more or less protective from the elements than other phones, but it does give a little bit more peace-of-mind.
  • I'm confused...What's wrong with an IP 53? That's good. Isn't the X Pure / Style a 52? This article is misleading.
  • I read too quickly. I missed the part where it said "IP53". That's better than nothing. Not as protective as IP68, but I'll take that. Doesn't help that I woke up way too early just so I didn't miss the HTC 10 coverage...
  • sorry. i understood you. it's the article that I'm confused by.
  • Yeah, the article is kinda wishy-washy.
  • Have Lil Wayne poor some champagne on it and you will find out!
  • Have Lil Wayne pour some champagne on it and you will find out!
  • Agreed. At this point I feel like phones should be water proof. Seems like we should be at the point of a fully sealed phone. I'm not going into logistics.. but charging can be wireless, earphones can be wireless. At the very least there should be magsafe-like connections (znaps, where are you?) and short-detection protection
  • Not a problem for me! I always cover/hide my phone in a dual layer case. I don't see this impacting my use of the HTC 10, but I'm still getting great use from my M8.
    But the IP53 rating will be an issue for the various spec monkeys out there...
  • Nope, don't care.
  • It is water resistant. That's a better rating than the M8, which I wash off in the sink on a regular basis. The immersion ratings of 7 and 8 are a little deceptive. You can immerse the phones, as long as they are still. Meaning that you can't walk with it under water or move it around under water. The IP53 rating allows for a pressurized spray, as long as you don't spray up into the bottom. For me, this is more valuable. The M8 and M9 were IPx3 certified, and what does that mean in the real world? It means they are fine with being rinsed off in the sink, being used in the rain, being used in the shower, and having people with more money than brains douse it on purpose. You cannot take it swimming, but you can't take an IPx7 or IPx8 phone swimming either.
  • Each increased level incorporates all levels below it.Pretty much,a common sense kind of thing. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's not quite that simple. There's a range in the specifications, with 1-6 being for non immersion, 7-8 for immersion, and 9k being for high pressure, high temperature spray, but no immersion. A device certified for short term immersion will not necessarily resist a pressurized spray.
    If you are trying to say that the higher numbers are better, then I'd generally agree with you. The main point is that the 10 is fine with getting wet, when the article seems to indicate otherwise.
  • Yeah,whatever you need to do to hold your phone up high,fanboy Posted via the Android Central App What I stated is true and stands,feel free to continue being a rabid little fanboy.A lot of things can be fixed,fanboy stupid isn't one of them.
  • Stating facts does not make one a fanboy. Not my fault you don't understand technical specifications. Posted via the Android Central App
  • By the way, that last part about the specifications was not intended as an insult, but I can see that it comes across as such. A lot of technical specifications are a bit confusing, and if the specs were as you stated, it would be more logical. Unfortunately they are not, and I'll just copy the description from Wikipedia regarding IEC standard 60529: "The ratings for water ingress are not cumulative beyond IPX6. A device which is compliant with IPX7, covering immersion in water, need not be compliant with IPX5 or IPX6" I do like the S7 and have sometimes participated in the Samsung forums offering technical help, and I apologize for that last post making me sound like a jerk. I'm really not THAT bad! ;)
  • Well said Posted via the Android Central App
  • They do have the uh oh protection if water damage occur or a cracked screen happens they just give you a brand new phone Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly. Not an issue for me at all. The iPhone is not water resistant and nobody is complaining about that so not an issue for most. Posted via the Android Central App
  • it holds well when submerged in a foot of water, the 5S lasted 15 minutes and the SE lasted 20 minutes completely submerged in a foot of water.
  • Yep!! Just used it on one of my m9s Posted via the Android Central App
  • Once and done.
  • HTC One M8 underwater for an hour and a half:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
  • Can I have one for free pls thank you Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yes, because you said please on an article not about a giveaway written by a site that isn't giving one away. Posted via S7 edge
  • Sure they will give you one free. Just give them $699 dollars and they will send you your free HTC 10.
  • LMAO Posted via the Android Central App
  • What other flagship phones are waterproof? Would be nice but not mandatory yet.
  • Isn't this pretty normal for most phones not called S7? Lol Posted via the Android Central App
  • +1 this article feels like it's trying way to hard to find something wrong with the phone. I know a Samsung fanboi when I see one. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Russell is not a Samsung fanboy. He may have missed something with the certifications, but
  • Not sure I agree but we can agree to disagree. Posted via the Android Central App
  • +1 Posted via the Android Central App
  • Since HTC sells unlocked developer phones and samsung does not I am OK without water resistance I guess. If Samsung sold a developer edition of the S7 Edge I would have bought one on release day.
  • IP53 is just fine unless you're gonna dunk your phone or take it into the shower. Posted via S7 edge
  • dont care for this device but in general, water proof isnt a dealbreaker for me. ive never dropped my phone in toilet and im wiser than to use it in the rain or near a pool for example. funny enuf tho. way back when i had my n4 my phone fell in snow and i didnt realize came back out to find it but it had already been covered by new snow fall, that night it rained and the next morning i find it facedown powered on. no lie. i think what helped was it being facedown but since then and never b4 have i had any phone scare
  • Not an issue for me. Electronics and water don't mix, simple rule to live by. I don't buy phones on the basis of whether the they're water proof of not. Doesn't concern me.
  • My tummy is happy Posted via the Android Central App
  • Water resistance is nice, but it really isn't an element that phones are exposed to much on purpose. And chances are it will survive a accidental dip or rainy conditions.
  • Nice one! Scrapping around looking for a negative angle. It won't work this time around. The HTC 10 looks like a brilliant phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly. There HTC hate is alive and well. Shame on Russell for the "lol. No. Not even a little." There fact of the matter is yes it is a little. So that was a straight up lie. I guess I shouldn't have expected journalistic integrity from a fanboy site like this.
  • Yep just looking for clicky bait. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not a big deal. For $699 I'm going be treating it with care and not running through a sprinkler with the kids, or diving into the ocean to take a selfie with the sharks...
  • Accidents with spilled drinks do happen, especially with kids around. No amount of carefulness can stop accidents.
  • I like the phone but it should have included a decent degree of water resistance.Not a dig and all the excuses in the world aren't really useful.This is something it simply should have had. Posted via the Android Central App
  • As someone who works outside for six months out of the year, the IP68 rating is super important for me. The only two phones to offer that is the S7/S7 edge.
  • Exactly,everyone else here must live and work in a cocoon. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Or you know those places called "buildings". And maybe, just maybe, they don't set there phones down next to a drink. Gasp!
  • Gasp!As I said it's a good thing you're never outside and that you and everyone around you have never spilled a freaking drink.Gasp! Posted via the Android Central App
  • Accidents happen. You could coddle your phone to the point of insanity and still drop it in a toilet, puddle, or have a drink spill on it. Accidents are called accidents for a reason. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • You would be fine with pretty much any phone built in the last three years. I too work outside... All year. I run my tech nekkid. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Lol. You're funny. I work in rain or shine. Water resistance is important. The only phones I've kept in the last few years are ones that can be put in Lifeproof cases or those that had the IP68 rating. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • I mainly work indoors in a controlled environment, but part time I'm on the road with heavy equipment so I would just throw a rugged case on it for those times. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Rugged cases aren't necessarily water resistant. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • It will be fine. I have been washing my phone's off in the sink for years. It would be nice to see Android Central 'wise up' a bit on this. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Tell me how that works out with a warranty claim. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Haven't had the need to file one. Don't hate on me because of your ignorance. Posted via the Android Central App
  • No ignorance involved,if you wash your phone in the sink like the dinner dishes,they are going to tell you to get screwed on a warranty claim.Hell,throw it in the washing machine. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The only ignorant one is you. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • I dont care the phone is small enough to put a nice thick case on it thats water resistant. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly!!!! Posted via the Android Central App
  • The ip68 rating muffles the audio, not really interested in a waterproof phone, never worried about it before, will not worry about it now, I don't take showers with my phone or go swimming with it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The audio definitely isn't muffled on the S7 edge. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • That's not what ALL the reviews have been saying. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The showers and swimming thing is nothing but a B.S. copout.Accidents happen stupid,blind,in denial fanboy. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Just because the Samsung Galaxy S6 Active, S7 and S7 Edge are water resistant. Doesn't mean HTC has to have it too. There are far more important things in my opinion. Like for example : wireless charging, fast charging, IR blaster, fingerprint scanner, NFC, SD card and removable battery or at least a high capacity one. Posted via Samsung's beast S7
  • Wait does the HTC 10 not have wireless charging either? Posted via the Android Central App
  • Those things are only important FOR YOU, not necessarily for everyone else. Just because YOU don't care about water resistance doesn't mean others have to feel the same way you do about it. I can't believe I have to explain this. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • Sure you have to explain it.Fanboys and butthurt. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Seem to be a lot of cave divers and Aquaman fans who are devastated over this phone not being waterproof. My Moto X 2014 has been with me through downpours, coffee spills, camping trips etc and somehow has survived while not being waterproof. If HTC had priced this phone above $700 due to waterproof construction there would be even more people whining about the price and it would have seriously impacted sales.
  • Lol I can see them all slowly removing there snorkels and flippers with sad faces.
  • Nope,just a nominal degree of water resistance.Something along the lines of the moto x pure. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Um that phone has the water proofing coating on it like he talked about. That helps. This has nothing. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yeah, water resistance isn't happening with those awesome speakers. Big deal. I feel like people are reaching to find a negative to attach to this phone. Non water resistance is a deal breaker? Give me a break. This phone looks near perfect. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Interestingly some people don't give a damn about the "awesome speakers". It's a mobile, using speakers instead of headphones in public is rude and inconsiderate to other people (most of the time). And if I'm at home or in my car then I won't be using the mobile phone's speakers I'll be using proper ones. Water resistance *for me* is much more important than awesome speakers. That's the thing, everyone has different requirements. A good camera is even more important... now how does the auto-focus stack up against some of the other "super fast" auto-focus flagships?
  • It's still premium and I would put a good quality clear case on it with a tempered glass screen protector to add some water resistance. The quick charge 3.0 charger out of the box and premium headphones is a plus. Posted via the Android Central App
  • How would a case with cutouts over all the ports and a tempered glass with cutouts help with water resistance? Posted via the Android Central App
  • It doesn't. Posted via the Android Central App on the S7 edge
  • Water resistance is cool but not a big deal to me at all. I liked it on my Xperia but was rarely ever in a situation where I needed it. I treat my phone's like a newborn child. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I don't care for the phone, but I disagree with it having to be water proof. HTC is all about baby steps in regards to incremental improvements. When waterproof ing is standardized down the road for the majority of devices they'll catch up. It's nice that a phone is water proof, but it won't be the one feature that sells 10 million phones.
  • Well,that standardization process has to have a beginning. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The standardization process won't have a beginning until Apple joins Samsung. And even then LG and HTC may not come along. I'm still surprised HTC caved and put a super high resolution display in it. Three generations after other makers started using high rez. HTC waterproofing coming in 2018!
  • So the HTC 10 is basically that phone that got destroyed by a little bit of water being poured on it in that lil Wayne/Samsung commercial. S7 edge/AC app
  • Nah, I'd let you pour water over my M8 any day! I wash it in the sink all the time.
  • It's a shame. They seemed to be meeting the S7 on specs and quality of experience, so it's disappointing that the S7 one-ups the 10 like this.
  • it's not wonderful, but I wouldn't be too surprised to discover that if the headphone socket on the top were fitted with one of those cheap headphone socket dust protectors, the water ingress vulnerability would decrease substantially.
    For a flagship device, a more watertight socket (such as Samsung are clearly using) would have been preferable, but I doubt it'll be an end of the world disaster for HTC, any more than it wasn't for the tens of thousands of handsets that precede this one that weren't waterproof turned out to be for their makers.
  • It's not a deal breaker, my Note 5 isn't waterproof either.
    I've never accidently submerged a phone *knocks on wood*.
    It would be nice to have though.
  • HTC delivers a great device and someone just had to pick poke and prod until they could come up with something negative. It wouldn't be right if it went any other way. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I don't remember any article like this about the G5... Curiously. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Hmm, good point. 6P either.
  • This is unfortunately a deal breaker for me. I love everything else about this phone, but the lack of water resistance means I'll have to stick with Samsung. I hate that, because it seems like in every other aspect, I would prefer the HTC phone.
  • My Sony Xperia M4 Aqua is water resistant and costs much less than this overpriced phone. HTC should think next year and make a water resistant HTC-11 for 2017
  • My daughter's Kyocera HydoLife is cheaper than your Sony... in more ways than one! ;)
  • Water proofing is a nice feature to have, but it isn't widespread enough to really be more than a sweet niche feature at this point.
  • Not ideal, but not a deal breaker at all. Electronics and water haven't mixed for most of my life, so I think I can manage.
  • Throw it in the toilet and check. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Better to wait for the OnePlus 3 than this HTC overpriced junk! Posted via the Android Central App
  • A $700 phone should be able to withstand some water and dust. Bring the cost down to nexus and cheaper territory and I can understand skipping it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Very few want water resistant. Many more prefer the advances this HTC 10 offers over other phones, despite what the troll-sympathisers for other manufacturers will be trying to load into comments in this article and others. Thanks HTC, I can't wait for your latest offering to hit the market. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Accidents happen when you lest expect it. Water resistance is a great idea. Definately an important feature for my next phone. Wish this HTC 10 had it as it
    does have many other positive features. My son's note 2 fell into water completely submerged. He opened it up, dried it out and it's been fine for the last 6 months. My daughters iPhone 6 got a drop or two around the home button from a wet hand. It died within an hour after having it less then a year, and now she uses a note 4. I also use a note 2. I like the HTC builds with the metal cases etc. however the water resistance is a deal breaker! Phones go with you and should be robust, not fragile.
  • Meh ... I've been rockin' a HTC device since the HTC EVO 4G and I have yet to get it wet or dusty, I've always had a 'case' and a 'screen protector' on my device, so I'm cool either way ...
  • I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzh6ypmNwSg
  • I'm shocked, i have an m9, and yes i haven't submerged it in water, but i go snowmobiling, bike riding, and just maybe occasionally spill some water not pour water on my phone( and yes it does get pretty wet in those first two things, im not afraid to ride in the rain, i enjoy it) and my phone is fine and works great. i remember when the the s6 came out and my friend showed me its water resistance by putting it under a faucet and im like maybe ill get that that phone when im michael phelps and i enjoy having my phone on me at all times. Seriously, i am not impressed watching a video on on iphone or a samsung when im not within 6 feet on the many sound sytems i have, those phones sound so ****** once you get used to an HTC. Thats what HTC is, awesome speakers for their size, clear and precise, like bose, and other than that, awesome interface, thats all they are, i look at HTC, and you can tell what all icons are without reading anything its great, I look at Samsung and i feel like they based their icons off of a cartoon, i just can't get over it, I like thier tvs, but i like LG more in that category, no reason there, just that i think you read a lot of reviews and they just have less problems. But thats all this is, everyones opinion, if your gonna submerge your phone in water, get a waterproof one, if your able to not directly put your electronics in water, like maybe just go through a rainstorm and use your phone the whole time, any non-waterproof phone is just fine. But i'm biased, i've always owned an HTC, even though i've never used a case, i have scratched my metal phone but its always fine, and wow, i have dropped it so much, with my m9, most times it just fell out of my pocket when i had on shorts in like the almost sitting position, As the phone gets older i just throw it around more and more, just always shocked at how much abuse it can take, and at the end of two years, which is now a long gone thing, i just put my old HTC in the drawer and still love using from time to time . just to be like damn, i miss how much smaller this phone was, the m7 was such a perfect size, the m9 is great, but the m7 was like manufactured for my hand size. The reason i first got an HTC was i was always seeing people with cracked iphone screens and then people with samsung phones just had the shittiest plastic looking phones that had totally the most un-understandable user interfaces ever. Thats all i think, waterproof, I'm astonished, waht are you going swimming with your phone, i use my HTCs in the rain all the time, i figure if they break, i need a better phone, but they never do so yay, i get to have my ****** awesome themes, user interface, and awesome speakers. I keep wondering, does this dude randomly get pushed in the pool a lot, like if he ever chooses to go into the pool, i feel like he could take his phone out, or is he always just like oh my god that pool looks so ****** good, im goin in............... to watch some youtube videos