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OnePlus has confirmed that their OnePlus One smartphone will receive an upgrade to the newly revealed Android L OS. OnePlus One currently uses the 11S build of CyanogenMod, a highly modified version of Android 4.4.2 KitKat.

In a post on the company's forums, a rep for OnePlus stated that they have received a lot of inquires from fans and customers about if OnePlus One would get the Android L update. He stated:

Well, we're keen to announce today that the OnePlus One will indeed be getting the L treatment. When, you ask? That depends on Google. We promise to have it done within three months of their releasing a final build.

In June, when Android L was first announced by Google, HTC confirmed that its HTC One M8 and M7 smartphones would get updated to the new OS "within 90 days of receiving final software from Google."

What do you think about OnePlus One joining the Android L bandwagon?

Source: OnePlus forums

 
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I'm actually disappointed that anyone thought they /wouldn't/ be upgrading the OnePlus One to L.

brendilon says:

Maybe they should focus on actually getting the phone released before doing the whole upgrade thing.

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intrepid359 says:

I have 12 invites left, and 2 of them already shipped :)

oafuape says:

Shoot can I get a invite lol

intrepid359 says:

Maybe I can give one to AC and they can do a giveaway contest with it. Otherwise I'm planning on selling some of them for $195. Gotta support the wife while she's on leave from work.

NoNexus says:

selling the invite for $195??

intrepid359 says:

Selling most of the invites for $195. Thinking about giving one to the AC editors for a giveaway.

jschu22 says:

Is this what OnePlus had in mind when they told us "don't settle"?

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someguy01234 says:

I won't criticize you for selling invites because OnePlus created this situation for themselves, and while it benefits those who sells them, it works against the goal of their marketing. It just means they won't be selling much, and that decreases their profit and bad for their fans overall. But it could be their intention from the beginning, as a bait and switch to control the OPO supply and sell more Find 7. It already seems that the warranty handling by OPO made a few people unhappy, I won't jump to conclusion for such few cases but it support some of my skepticism. I think people who paid anymore than $500+ for this device are very dumb (sorry for being blunt) considering the Oppo Find 7a have much more features and better support, despite the two companies being closely tied. I really don't see anything special about this device anymore now with Android L coming out, and the price isn't even tantalizing considering how hard it is to get and the questionable support.

kapilp says:

I'll buy one. Can you send me a pm?

intrepid359 says:

Check your e-mail. The invites just came in yesterday, I have 5 total. I can give you a much better deal on the invite than I mentioned in my previous post :)

kapilp says:

My email is kapilpershad@gmail.com. I'll buy one.

yankeesusa says:

That's ok. I'm happy with my n5 or the n6 when it's announced. Thanks anyway.

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15kjpatel says:

May I please have one loll
15kjpatel@gmail.com

venerable sir, Can you also give me an invite? Thank you very much

Vayank says:

Can i get a invite pls pls

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DavidsTech says:

$150 for a invite? lol, I would rather put that money towards a different device. With smartphones with the more powerful Snapdragon 805 coming I may just get something with that. I have a bunch of devices with the Snapdragon 800 already so no rush for a 801.

This might be a silly question but how does one person wind up with 12 invites? Not blaming you but I don't think that's what they had in mind with this invite system, for one person to get so many and to sell them for profit.

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s2weden2000 says:

He don't have any...

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

intrepid359 says:

Look at it this way. Unless you have an invite, you can only get the phone for upwards of $700 on eBay. Buying from me saves you $155. My wife is on medical leave from work for the next 3-6 months, so I have to do whatever I can to make up the 43% of income we've lost.

How does one person get so many invites? I'm honestly just curious. I didn't follow the invite system too closely since I wasn't really interested in the phone.

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Regardless of how you got them, it's a broken system since the whole point of the phone is that it's a flagship device for a reasonable price. OnePlus screwed up with their system so that the only way to get it right now is to buy from price gougers or magically get an invite.

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thatguy97 says:

Lol you guys are willing to kiss some serious ass for a invite

Posted from my Nexus 7 2013 running Android L or Samsung galaxy S5

Nana Quame says:

Heyyyy, I' ve been trying to get someone to get me an invite for a while now. I'd greatly appreciate it if you can help me with it. thanks.

EltonHCP1 says:

The 1+ phones have to be launched first.

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gvndeb60 says:

My thoughts exactly. Focus on releasing the phone first, then worry about future OS updates.

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eahinrichsen says:

Exactly how much overlap do you think there is between the people responsible for getting the devices shipped and the people responsible for software updates?

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NoNexus says:

I am pretty sure they have all their developers on the assembly room floor putting the pieces together. They need to ship their 12 phones a day.

cowboys2000 says:

Lol

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thatguy97 says:

+1

Posted from my Nexus 7 2013 running Android L or Samsung galaxy S5

jcastag says:

But since the phone does not really exist anyway, they might as well say it will be pushed out July 10th. They can't even keep there timelines or promises on the hardware release, and they are already making promises of future software updates.. This has become a joke.

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Jacob Kral says:

No the pointless attacks have become a joke. Oh boo, they're 4 days behind schedule at this point, the sky is falling. And what about the hardware, they haven't changed anything there.

Quit being a baby.

NoNexus says:

No the joke is the 1+ and this is not the first deadline that they missed. They deserve the scorn and venom.

Like people have been saying with the G3 releasing long after the announcement, they missed the boat. The difference is that the G3 has solid dates and the 1+ is still coming soon.

This.

ಠ益ಠ

intrepid359 says:

They are stepping up their releases now. I have 12 invites at this point, and 2 more phones have shipped already. I think things are starting to step up, but maybe I'm incorrect.

NoNexus says:

No sooner or later it has to, and I am not knocking your business, but it is VERY too little too late. A lot of dew has fallen off the lilly. I know you will have no problem selling them, and neither will 1+ because of the price but they blew their opportunity.

intrepid359 says:

Agreed. They are giving out invites right now because of all of their screw-ups with shipping delays. I got 2 invites because they weren't going to ship my phone until 7/9. 2 days after I ordered it, it shipped anyway. They shipped it via UPS Ground instead of the expedited shipping I paid for though, so I'll probably get more invites for that mistake too. We'll see.

ChuckG73 says:

Why would anyone need 12 invites...., individuals like yourself are part of the problem for +1.

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intrepid359 says:

How am I part of the problem? These invites would go to waste if I didn't acquire them.

s2weden2000 says:

It's up to you and go buy another s8o1 phone with 3gb ram and 64gb storage for 35o..oh wait you can't because they are 8oo+

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

It isn't like you can just go and buy this one either.

s2weden2000 says:

If you only knew...

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

oh yeah? What?

jcastag says:

If you don't have a problem with a way that they have launch this device, I don't know what to say.
This whole thing has become a joke not only for the fact that they had missed their own deadlines, but they have forced you to jump through hoops for the chance to possibly have the ability to pay money for the device. Like its a privilege to buy something from them.
In addition, they want everyone to do their advertising for them through social media and such. Do I collect a paycheck from them?
Are you serious?
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Jacob Kral says:

Well what do you expect? it's a fledgling company, and the device is excellent for 300 bucks, nobody owes you a thing. They can't ramp up production and make more than they can sell, because the margins are slim. Part of the reason they can sell so low is that they aren't spending billions on marketing like Samsung or Apple.. Get over yourself.

It IS a privilege to buy this for so cheap.

jcastag says:

When did I say they owe me anything jackass?

And no I don't consider it a privilege to spend my hard earned money on anything, I consider it a choice.

And my choice will be to not buy this!

jcastag says:

And so you know, I am in the wireless industry and there are 2 classifications of people surrounding this brand and product. The people that have no knowledge of the company or device, and the people that know about it and feel the device, company and release are a fucking joke.
So in the end, any marketing and social media that they had "potential customers" do for them backfired because all it did was promote the fact that they cannot even release their first and only product to the market. Anyone I know that has knowledge of this device has nothing positive to say about it anymore.
Good job!
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Jacob Kral says:

For someone "in the industry" you seem to have no clue about production costs. You can't just mass produce anything like this with low margins, because every device not sold is a huge loss..

Samsung makes the S5 for like $150, then they sell for 700-800. That's a huge profit, even after their gargantuan marketing budget.

Excess inventory would kill the company, so they have to do something like this to gauge demand at first. I know about this device, I think it's outstanding for a first entry, every review site that has had one has rated it highly.I'm bummed I can't just go to their site and click buy, but unlike you I actually get why that's not possible.

Everyone on the internet is in the perfect profession to argue their point.

NoNexus says:

No they sell it to the middle man for roughly 350-400, then they tack on their cut

jcastag says:

Actually all you do is keep proving that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Maybe you think that if you keep kissing their ass they will send you free devices, who knows.

Once again, I never doubted the quality of the product or didn't agree it's an incredible value. It is a great device for the price.

But none of that matters if you can't get the device into the hands of the public, or your potential customers.

If you don't think the launch and release of this device has been a complete disaster then you are a moron. It's one thing to create some buzz about a product release. It's another thing to have potential customers behave like trained seals and act like they are doing me a favor by "letting" me have a chance to buy something.

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s2weden2000 says:

He's a aijphoney user anyway...

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

You keep "accusing" people of that without checking WTF you are talking about. It is a simple task, click on the name and you will see what phone they use.

Jacob Kral says:

I'm beginning to think that you and jcastag are the same person..

Jacob Kral says:

Wrong sir, this is the problem. You don't attempt to understand the costs associated with this sort of business and you just expect them to mass produce them. I probably won't even buy one, but i cant stand the stupid attacks. The margins on this are incredibly slim. Do you understand that? They profit probably $10 per device. Samsung, htc, apple, lg, etc.. earn several hundred each. This is not just a buzz creation method IT IS WHY they can sell so cheap, because they aren't spending millions in marketing.

The launch is fine, its what needs to be done. On their future offerings theyll be able to be more flexible hopefully.

NoNexus says:

THe margins are incredibly slim? No for a real company they are not. THey price it at what they can to make a reasonable profit to keep the company going. A SCAM prices it at or just above cost to suck people into the hype. Like this one has. You really need to stop with your comments because you are not only not helping your cause, but helping mine.

Profits on electronics are usually keystone.

Jacob Kral says:

Do you even know what margins are? You seriously just sound like an idiot now.

They are selling it barely above its cost to manufacture, that's why they cant afford excess inventory. A scam "sells" it at any price and then doesn't deliver at all. If they are sending them to those who pay, they are not scamming anybody.

NoNexus says:

OH yeah? How many people were lined up to get this and cannot? After how many delays?

The OPPO 1+ can afford to produce 10,000 units and deliver them to people, they choose not to.

A scam is a promise to deliver and when that day comes, do not deliver. They fit the bill several times over.

The only thing that separates them from a fraud is that they have not taken any money from "customers" yet. I would not put it past them though.

Jacob Kral says:

It's clear you're just a pathetic troll with no reasoning skills.
They do not have access to Oppo's money. They haven't scammed anyone.

You know, I think i have you figured out, I think you were one of those retards that didnt read their contest rules, and smashed his phone before being chosen. Now you want revenge for your own stupidity. The only thing separating them from being a scam, is that they haven't actually scammed a single person lol.. get real.

NoNexus says:

OH yeah? Tell me where my reasoning has failed in this thread. They do have access to OPPO money, just like Moto had access to Google money. This whole cluster F*ck is a game.

No my Note 3 is something I would never destroy, but I am glad you keep bringing up the games they play (OPPO 1+), it just keeps helping your cause

thatguy97 says:

You must work in their factory and work you to the bone to load that one phone in the truck

Posted from my Nexus 7 2013 running Android L or Samsung galaxy S5

Jacob Kral says:

Nope, I have no affiliation with them, heck, I don't even care for their invite system and i probably won't even buy their product, but unlike most of these morons, I can understand why they've chosen it.

daredevildan says:

4 days? Where have you been?

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Jacob Kral says:

In the real world, where math exists. They said during Q2 2014 they'd start mass shipping, Q2 = April, May, June.

It's the 4th of July. Tadaa.

gagdude says:

I've read your past few posts and can only come to one conclusion.

Samsung Knights, Nexus Elitists, you guys have a competitor.

Jacob Kral says:

No, lol I'll probably end up buying an Xperia device when I upgrade from my HTC one (m7).. the HTC is great but I'm not buying another one with this horrible camera, no way.

Right now, the Z2 is imo the best device on the market, but I can't stand all these trolls and entitled sounding jerks acting like OnePlus owes them a bigger release or marketing.

NoNexus says:

They just need to be honest and stop playing silly little games. They are liars and con men

Right.

That's why CM is in bed with them.

Idiot.

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NoNexus says:

They are perfect together. CM couldn't deliver on time either. Half of the stuff on CM works half the time.

Besides, just because they didn't know how dishonest OPPO 1+ was gonna be doesn't make them totally at fault.

s2weden2000 says:

They said from day one end of june beginning of july.. generall availability starting august...

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

WOW you moved the bar again from the conversation we had at the beginning of June.

I know you are big on their forum, go read the press releases. I believe it was the May 6th one that I pointed out to you last time that said Q2, meaning end of June at the latest.

Which was after several other delays. Oh well, keep thinking they are worth anything at this point. It is all you

Bobby Henris says:

maybe One+ meant business quarters of the fiscal year, which would put Q2 in Jan-Mar next calendar year. idk i'm trying really hard to give them the benefit of the doubt and hope they will get the handset available to all ASAP. I still want one for myself whenever its possible.

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s2weden2000 says:

Yeah i'm real big..most have like 2o comments in there..

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

40ish actually but i don't keep track

Qwkslvrmz says:

That's awesome for the 10 people who actually have this phone..

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AKFL3TCH3R says:

XD HAHA so true!

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Oh come on. There are at least 12.

jonathan3579 says:

I can't wait to open mine tomorrow!

NoNexus says:

SO your the guy who got Thursday batch!

Qwkslvrmz says:

I know a guy who knows a guy and they said there might be like 3 on this next batch coming so I might have underestimated a little.. There's like 26 floating around now!! Lol

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intrepid359 says:

I have 14 alone :)

Johnny Z says:

Hey, do you have 12 invites and 2 of them shipped?

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intrepid359 says:

Yes! lol

rgao007 says:

How'd you get that many invites?

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intrepid359 says:

OnePlus is giving them out every time the screw up. I also acquired some OnePlus accounts with active invites through my other smartphone import/export deals.

rgao007 says:

That seems like a cool business area, selling phones and getting the latest and greatest

Posted via my M9, XT912, N910, G906, D6653, D870, G4, or G Pro 3

intrepid359 says:

Yep, I keep the ones I like in the process. :)

Lol

jcastag says:

Are they going to push it out to everyone??

Or run a contest to have a chance to be able to pay to download the update?

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Hunter Petit says:

Hahaaha good one!

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NoNexus says:

You have to smash your current 1+1 (well the picture you drew of it since it hasn't been released) and they will send you one with the current OS on it. Within 90 days, or 97 or 102 or 138 or 169 or sometime.

ErnstMach says:

Lol I'd suggest a contest seeing how badly you can screw up the phone by messing with the OS to get a chance at the software update that may or may not fix it

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NoNexus says:

Great, now you gave them that idea....

Mac58 says:

Considering their close to stock android, within 3 months seems like a cop out. They should be able to get it done within times like the Moto x. I understand they are a smaller business but cyanogenmod is their partner that is delivering all software to them, and cyanogen is well versed in this area. I would like to see faster turn around times personally

Chanlion says:

Estimates. They can say 3 months to be safe but can always release it earlier if that's the case. People will get more made if something doesn't release on time right?

Mac58 says:

True, but so far One plus hasnt 'played it safe' with estimates or with anything for that matter. Just doesnt fit them. If they say within 3 months I expect it to be delivered on the 90th day. Which is disappointing. Though I do udnerstand what you are saying.

NoNexus says:

It depends, ColorUI is not all that close to stock. Not to mention that it makes TW look like stock

intrepid359 says:

I love ColorOS! The parts that work, that is.

NoNexus says:

I honestly haven't touched it (mostly because I cannot) but it seems from the forums that not a whole lot works.

intrepid359 says:

ColorOS 1.2 works pretty well, and it's gorgeous on the Find 7. ColorOS 2 Beta hasn't been a problem for me yet, but you only get 10 minutes of battery life with it. That's why they have that super-fast charger.

NoNexus says:

I stopped checking their forum out awhile ago when it became apparent that they were not going to be a viable option for my line of work. Every once in awhile, for a thread like this, I take a refresher and dive in to see how bad (or if it has improved) it is

s2weden2000 says:

Sure..

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

What is there to doubt about that?

s2weden2000 says:

Keep milking budDy...

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

NoNexus says:

As long as they keep doing the dumb stuff that they do, I will speak against them.

To bad the specs on this phone are outdated already.

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Jacob Kral says:

By what? Trolls are in full force today.

Compared to the G3 or Note 4.

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Hunter Petit says:

First, the Note 4 isn't even a thing now, second the Note 4 is like a super phone rather than an average smartphone, third the G3 and Note 4 cost/will cost way more than the One.

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NoNexus says:

Yeah but they are a real thing, this isn't so far. It is a great concept that cannot ship.

anekin007 says:

Or available to the public. With limited numbers it will remain in invite only for awhile.

Jacob Kral says:

The Note 4 isn't even announced.

NoNexus says:

Yeah but a reliable company like Samsung will have it out not long after it is announce at IFA. We know it is coming and Samsung can actually deliver.

Manure trucks deliver as well.

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NoNexus says:

Yeah but at least with them you know you are getting a load of shit. OPPO sold a great device to the public then turned out to be full of shit.

s2weden2000 says:

L 0 L

... ( 0ppo F5) ...

Taz89 says:

Shouldn't it be quicker, considering cm is pretty much stock ui and the fact that they kind start laying out the groundwork now because they can start working off Android L preview you would think it would be much quicker.

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CM is actually quite changed from AOSP, just not as much in the UI department.

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UJ95x says:

3 months after the official L release?
L+3 = L3.
HL3 confirmed.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 running SOKP 4.4.2

Titusk says:

I knew it.

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Jordan Pt says:

Pretty sad that these jokes can still exist. But at the same time, it shows the existence of a fan base that most devs would kill for.

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NoNexus says:

No it shows that the frustration level with dealing with a joke of a phone/company still has someone paying attention to it. Believe me when I say that they blew the sales they could have had. This could have been pretty big, now it is way behind an also-ran

ErnstMach says:

You'd be surprised by how much people on the internet are willing to flog a dead horse

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tdizzel says:

+9000

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Hunter Petit says:

Dang, I just researched how long you guys have been waiting for HL3... All I can say is not me! I would've already stopped trying.

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NoNexus says:

HL3 is starting to shape up like Duke Nuke'em

Dizfunctions says:

Still not as good the HTC guarantee.

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NoNexus says:

Well HTC actually has a product to develop on, the 1+ is still working on that part

STiK says:

So in other words Android "L" will be pushed before the general public can get the device?

megatomic says:

Since when does vaporware need an update? /s

NoNexus says:

So they can get released around the same time?

quailallstar says:

I got my hands on one. Arrives Monday.

Android and Blackberry fan

aw1974 says:

Will you need an invite in order to receive the update?

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EddiePanetti says:

Paranoid Android is already available on it and that team usually pushes out newer versions of android much faster than 3 months. This news doesn't put me off towards anything. 3 months isn't that bad actually compared to Samsung's track record lol! Samsung takes like 6 months lol!

Dizfunctions says:

That's mostly because of the carriers who have to test and make sure their bloatware works on the phone.

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NoNexus says:

Samsung and HTC are still faster than 3 months

campanth says:

Doesn't really matter if you can't buy the phone. I'll wait for the Nexus 6...I know it will get Android L too...
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NoNexus says:

But who knows if there is gonna be a Nexus 6

We do. The guys at Google have already stated that Android Silver doesn't mean the end of Nexus.

Posted via my tricked out Moto X.

NoNexus says:

The Nexus line and that could just mean tablets (we are pretty sure that is coming from HTC) but not necessarily phones. Google is taking a lot of OEMs, at some point they have to give back. The Nexus Phone is the perfect give back

Hunter Petit says:

Burke from Google said they still need "phones and tablets to develop for" he was talking about software. He said the Nexus line isn't going any where.

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cordawgfrito says:

Just because he says that doesn't mean it's true and doesn't mean the Nexus line won't go away eventually.

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NoNexus says:

Is the SGS6 not a phone that they need to develop for? The M9? How about the PadPhone 3 tablet? or the Galaxy Note 12.2 (2015) edition?

He did say the line wasnt going anywhere but he did not explicitly say that we are developing a new Nexus Phone. As I said above, I feel confident that they are going to continue with the tablet line. Not sure about the phones.

If it happens, great! I mean that (as long as they do not muck it up like the last 3. More choices are better.

I do not think it is happening right now. We will see down the road when leaks start coming

eric.porter says:

I was excited for the OPO, but now I'm considering waiting another 3 months or so for the Nexus 6. I'm also considering the LG G3.

SLatorella says:

I'm getting it on Monday

NoNexus says:

My new L+1X phone will get it within a month of the final L release as well.

Wanna know what my L+1X and the 1+1 have in common?

They do not really exist. They are all hype and no substance.

jimbo says:

Apparently this went over your head. People are receiving their OnePlus1.

Obviously, as a start up they aren't in position to manufacture a gazillion handsets at their beginning. Time will tell.

NoNexus says:

They are not a startup. They are part of a huge corporation not unlike Motorola. It is easy for the parent company to pay for the initial production run and get the money back. Happens all the time.

Putting out 20 phones a week barely qualifies as "people getting the phone"

ErnstMach says:

So much this ^

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Jacob Kral says:

Once again, no they aren't. They are not part of Oppo. They have a few employees from oppo, and oppo owns a stake in their company, but they are totally new venture.

You always like to bring this up, when it's bs and you know it. Then you'll never provide any evidence and pop in again on the next OnePlus article.

NoNexus says:

Oppo put up 100% as per the Chinese regulatory documents

bofunky123 says:

You are correct sir.

You do realize there is a difference between Oppo, and Oppo Electronics, right?

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NoNexus says:

You realize that there is a difference between pretending to be a startup and being fully backed, owned and funded by a major corporation right?

iknownothing says:

Aren't all startups fully backed by some body or bodies?

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NoNexus says:

No. Who is Pebble funded by?

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Jacob Kral says:

Backers, which are somebody. Does that mean that pebble can use everything in all their pockets?

Jacob Kral says:

A start up owned by another company is not the same thing as saying they just have access to all of the parents money. And in the case of the article you linked to (finally attempting to back up one of your accusations), it only gave credit that Chinese media claimed this, no actual evidence.

I can launch a corporation tomorrow, if google or apple buys 51% of my stock, do i instantly have access to their billions? No, because that's not how it works.
Perhaps Oppo does own the company, but that wouldn't necessarily mean they have access to their budget.

NoNexus says:

By definition a start-up is an independent company, not a wholly owned subsidy.

If they are Owned by anyone, they are another arm of that company, not a startup.

Please stop talking, you are making my case more than yours

Jacob Kral says:

No, i guess you have trouble with definitions, it simply means its a new company, some say working toward solving a current problem.

So is Microsoft a subsidiary of me? Because I own some of their stock. The only thing you are proving is that you lack basic reasoning and debate skills.

NoNexus says:

You failed to address my first sentence. Sure you do, in essence subsidize Microsoft, but you glossed over the wholly owned part.

Microsoft is not a startup, neither is the OPPO 1+

Jacob Kral says:

Lets see.. what about Occulus? Makers of the well known Rift VR headset..

They were a start up, then they were bought by facebook completely, now they are a division of them, and not a small company. But, take Beats Audio, for a while HTC owned 51% of their stock, does that mean that every pair of overpriced junk headphones they made in that time were really "HTC Studio Headphones"?

No, because its a completely different thing to outright buy a company, and own stock in it. You've not shown anything that proves Oppo owns 100% of this OnePlus company, you merely post an article from some random little website that says other random news sources claim it.. No evidence whatsoever, they didn't even link to the supposed documents.

campanth says:

Then maybe they should have done pre-orders to gauge the interest of potential customers...or take orders and place them on back order...something other than the lottery system they opted for fueled by a hype machine. At this point, there is no indication of when the phone will actually be ready to purchase without an invite, but they continue to hype the phone daily on social media. As a consumer, I shouldn't have to beg a company to buy their product!
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NoNexus says:

That is one of the big scary things about this scam...er...um..company. Business 101 says you get your seed money, build a batch, then take the profits from that batch to build a bigger batch. They work in on of the cheapest labor markets so they can lower the price to the levels it is at and still allow enough profit to continue as I said. With the backing of OPPO they should have been able to put 50,000 of these on release day and then order another 100K if needed.

They are thisclose to being a pyramid scheme.

Jacob Kral says:

The reason they did the invite system is to boost customer referrals, since they don't have the marketing budget for ads, and to limit production to a level they can manage.

NoNexus says:

They obviously failed there as well. If you give out 15 invites, but can only make 8 phones your a failure of a company

Jacob Kral says:

And do you have evidence that even those without invites are being turned away?

NoNexus says:

No one said anything about being turned away, but if I call OPPO 1+ right now, without an invite, will I get a phone? No, they are on the invite, contest, smash your phone, kiss my ass system.

Jacob Kral says:

Then what's your point? You said if they had 15 invites and made 8 phones they fail.. So basically your last statement was meaningless.

NoNexus says:

Funny you answer things you THINK you can, but a direct answer to your question gets nothing...

YOU go SHill

Jacob Kral says:

You didn't even ask a question lol...

You're so dumb it's just funny to watch you come up with more bs you think qualifies as a coherent argument. Where is your proof they aren't making as many phones as invites?

cordawgfrito says:

They aren't a startup. They are owned by Oppo which is hardly a start.

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Euclid88 says:

No, time already tells us that this failed.

With the G3 and S5 prime around you think people still take this phone seriously?

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iknownothing says:

It's half the price. Not everyone buys their phones at a subsidy. People still buy nexus phones half a year on. I don't see the problem.

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NoNexus says:

The problem is that half a year on 1+ has nothing to show except excuses.

I hate the Nexus 4, am not thrilled with the Nexus 5, but they have a phone to put out to the masses unlike the OPPO 1+ does

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Megaroad says:

Does this mean they will be using and Android L-based version of CM, or stock Android L?

NoNexus says:

CM if they ever actually have a phone, OS or whatever to put L on

Hunter Petit says:

I would hope they would update to Googles Android L, then add their customizations.

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Timcity says:

Further cementing my allegiance to Nexus phones.

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mathiasjk says:

That's great news for the two people on the world why have one.

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D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

Oh yey. Another phone getting Andro-

Wait, the OnePlus One? Awesome for the <1% of Android users who have it.

NoNexus says:

you way over estimated that

Awesome for the < .0001%

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

LOL. That gave me quite a chuckle.

I think only 1-5 guys have it. And that's out of around a billion Android users.

At least those guys feel exclusive.....for now.

Never settle.....for something that missed its promised deadline for more than 2 times.

barondebxl says:

Theyll have it way before that, best believe it

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NoNexus says:

WHat have they shown you so far that would make you believe that? THey cannot even get the GPS fixed on their own phones with their own ColorUI.

This whole 1+1 fiasco makes me feel really bad for the CM guys. Being their only official hardware partner and all.

Posted via my tricked out Moto X.

lamplghter13 says:

Nobody cares anymore.

udazavlanje says:

Lol

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jacob114489 says:

When will this phone be available for retail?

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cordawgfrito says:

Probably never.

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Hunter Petit says:

I'm between the Nexus 6 or the OnePlus One... But I bet the Nexus 6 will be everyone l available before the One will.

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Dont really know how I feel about L, but can't say that I blame them for releasing the latest build...they can't be the latest and greatest and not upgrade to the most recent build available.

daredevildan says:

Is that from OnePlus? Because we know they always deliver.

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You forgot your /s.

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How they follow HTC interesting...

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D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

Except HTC actually HAS a device to update for and a lot of people already have them.

Plus, they more or less kept their promises, unlike 1+.

The M7, which is about 1.5 years old as I write this comment, is currently on KK and will be getting L alongside the M8. Given HTC's excellent OEM record for updating their flagships recently, we should see the update around their deadline.

OnePlus? They don't know what 'deadline' means. Hell, the dictionary they use doesn't even have it as a word.

bofunky123 says:

Oneplus is the worst dog and pony show ever. What I'm disappointed about is Android central continuing this propaganda for a phone that has not been released and that has far more problems than solutions.

gbrinkman says:

I am guessing that they plan on going to each of the 200 or so phones they have sold and updating them manually is the reason it will take 3 months.

I wish everyone would stop giving these guys press until they start shipping a product.

calvin35 says:

I always like to take a little time to thank those that bring joy and laughter to my life. Thank you for this post.

bofunky123 says:

Exactly..

I've still seen more in the real world than Windows Phone.

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Jacob Kral says:

Lol, i've honestly never seen someone in real life using a windows phone. No OnePlus One either, but still Microsoft is failing pretty hard lately.

NoNexus says:

The first thing you have said that is true. Microsoft has not gained a ton of traction. They can afford it though. They can hang with the losses and keep throwing money at it until it gains some share....exactly like they did with the Xbox

I've seen plenty of WP devices in the wild. Not as many as iPhones or Android, but enough that it's stopped surprising me.

Posted via my tricked out Moto X.

nvelez says:

Yeah because OnePlus have displayed to the world that their release promises actually mean something.

You can't fix a shattered reputation with more promises when failed promises is what originally destroyed your reputation.

jordyiam says:

This phone takes so long to come to market because the battery is powered by unicorn shit ...why are people even bothered by this phone ..I'll keep my m8 thanks ...its far superior in every way..
That company won't even exist in 12 months time ...they have no idea...

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Jacob Kral says:

Except the ram, camera, screen, battery, or customization.

I like HTC, but you're greatly exaggerating.

NoNexus says:

Except as you keep proving you are wrong. The screen on the M8 is better (same resolution, M8 has a higher PPI), The M8 can be customized as well, the Storage is higher on the M8, the M8 has an SDCard, the camera (while sucks in standard mode) has MANY more features than the non-exsitant camera on CM (when did the y promise a new camera app?)

THey have their pluses and minuses, but to call the OPPO 1+ better than the M8 is an exaggeration.

Jacob Kral says:

The screen on the m8 is significantly smaller, nearly even ppi. Can you pop the back off and replace it with wood, kevlar or denim? no. Can you select either capacitive or on screen keys? nope. And thats the tip of the iceberg with cyanogenmod (granted you can root and install a rom on the m8 too, but its not out of the box anywhere close). The storage is not higher by default, you can get 64gb max on either, if you add an sd then yes. You are straight up wrong on the camera, there are way more camera features in cm, it has been shown in demos.. We don't even need to go into detail on the physical shortcomings of the M8's horrid camera.

The oppo 1+ doesn't exist you troll. We are talking about the OnePlus One.

I see you didn't bother trying on the obvious losses with the ram & battery.

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

Except OnePlus is OWNED by Oppo.

So, it technically IS an Oppo OnePlus One.

If not, then why is there a variant running ColorOS?

Jacob Kral says:

Samsung sells devices running android, does that mean they are owned by google?

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

That is a retarded statement.

ColorOS is an Android SKIN. OEMs generally don't let anyone other than their subsidiaries or affiliates use their skin. You don't see any non-Samsung device run TouchWiz or any non-HTC device run Sense.

Android is different. It's open-source. You can use and tweak it to however you like it.

Please do your research before commenting...

Jacob Kral says:

That has nothing to do with research, i know everything you just said already. But im simply highlighting the fact that one running another software doesn't mean anything about business relations. Windows isn't free or open source yet numerous manufacturers use it as well, so again, your argument is flawed.

They openly say that they have worked with oppo electronics, and that their ceo is a former oppo employee, is it not possible that they got approval to use this in the mean time until cyanogenmod finalizes their build?

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

I think the main problem is that not everyone who got the invite has received their Ones.

It could be an issue on CM's end.

Oppo is just basically selling one to you now, but they'll give you their skin for it, meaning that you'll have to root n' ROM it just like any other Android phone.

It could be a backup plan all along.

NoNexus says:

The problem is that it is so hard to get and invite AND the company said, several times over that it would be up for sale now.

NoNexus says:

Show me one company in the world that shared their technology with a competitor. We are not talking about licensing. The OPPO 1+ is the same company.

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

I never said companies share their technology with others, hence, why I said "subsidiaries or affiliates".

Were you replying to him or me, because this website sometimes arranges replies in a really funny way...

Jacob Kral says:

Tons actually.. companies share tech all the time, many make them open source or royalty free even.

Tesla, they are basically begging for competition and just made their charging system open to all.

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

Tesla and others like ARM are different.

They allow others to use their technology as some sort of backbone for their products. Their main goal is to help push their respective industry forward, Tesla being electric vehicles and ARM being mobile computing. By making them open to all, others can use their tech and make their products better and push the industry far forward.

OEM Android skins are not. They are restricted to a specific manufacturer. You can emulate the skin through the use of a custom launcher, but you cannot share the entire skin with every Android OEM. Of course, the stock Android skin is the one major exception.

I'll also mention that some skin functions require special hardware. The Galaxy S5's skin, for example, requires a gesture sensor for Air Gestures. As far as I know, the Galaxy S4, Note 3, S5 and possibly the upcoming Note 4 will be the only devices supporting the feature, as they have the sensor built in. Putting it on another device without it makes the feature all but useless.

NoNexus says:

By your reasoning, can Samsung run Sense?

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

Well, if you're willing to install a Sense ROM, then it should work if it's compatible, which many are not.

If I am right, OEMs have patents on their skins. If another company not related to that OEM asks to use their skin, then it will most likely be rejected. I think companies may take legal action against others simply using their skin on their devices.

NoNexus says:

I am not arguing with you in the slightest. Sense can be ported to Touchwiz and vice versa.

I have not seen, ever (for example) Sense making a ROM for Touchwiz. I have never sen OEM X make something fully functional for OEM Y. They do not share code. One can emulate another but neither share.

D13H4RD2L1V3 says:

That's true.

You can emulate another skin, but you can't share it.

NoNexus says:

I deleted several paragraphs of arguments with you on the phone. The all have their ups and downs. EVERY PHONE, compared to every other.

Point is, I can get on the internet and grab a M8 right this second. From any carrier in the world. On almost any website.

Or I can smash my phone and wait for an invite for a phone that is delayed for the umpteenth time for some reason other than their own.

Jacob Kral says:

Well, HTC is an established company charging significantly more for their products, and if you smash your phone and then wait for an invite all that means is you're stupid. The contest involves being picked, given an invite and basically free One and THEN recording yourself breaking the other phone.

NoNexus says:

Not to mention the M8 is a real product being sold a million times over. The OPPO 1+ cannot put out 12 at a time.

You say you are not an OPPO shill, but you only show up when there is an OPPO thread to defend

Jacob Kral says:

I guess you don't have basic detective skills, I am on android central pretty often, on many different topics.
You earlier told someone to click the name to get info, guess you already forgot how.

NoNexus says:

I am on here 6-7 times a day, I only see you when the OPPO 1+ is mentioned.

I did click your name an all I see is OPPO 1+ defense.

Jacob Kral says:

Well Idk what to tell you, I've been on here for about a year, and have talked on many topics. Project ara being one of the more recent. The only time I notice you is when you're trolling against this phone, so I just try to balance it out.

EddiePanetti says:

Do you have a profile on the OnePlus website? Or forum? If you do let me know the profile name and I'll give you my last invite when I get it later this month. Ignore the nonexus guy. He's just full of troll hate because he wants one so bad. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have covered 80% of this thread with his nonsense.

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net62957 says:

Gnashing teeth, rolling eyes into back of head.........you did this to me, One Plus!

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thejungle says:

They have to be kiddin'.. Three months? They have already a dev preview which IS FOR THE DEVELOPERS AND MANUFACTURERS to prepare their updates faster, and they try to put the same shit in our mouth talking about months? Ouch, no OnePlus anymore.

NoNexus says:

They need the extra 3 months to actually, maybe, hopefully, have a product to develop on

I personally think it's a bit of a waste trying to give it Android L. It's near impossible to even get one! They should soon make it available to the public, even for $50+ or more if necessary - then Android L on it seems reasonable.

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codiusprime says:

They'll run a lottery to see who will get an invite for the L release.

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Mandder says:

I'm selling invitations, for 50$ paypal , via skype : nassim-951_messi