HTC One M7 + M8

How does the new HTC One (M8) compare to last year's model, the M7?

With today's launch of the new HTC One, the "M8," we're sure plenty of owners of last year's HTC One will be wondering how the new handset stacks up. Sure, 2014's HTC One boasts beefier internals, a larger screen, and an additional camera for capturing depth information. But what about the look, feel and software features? Join us after the break for an in-depth comparison of HTC's 2013 and 2014 flagships.

Video: HTC One (M7) versus HTC One (M8)

Design and build

Less boxy, more curvy.

The M7 wowed us last year with its metal-backed chassis, and the M8 takes things a step further with a wraparound metal unibody, wider corners and smoother curves. And with no more ("zero-gap") injection molding this time around, it's metal, not plastic that your hand's in contact with when holding the new HTC One. (HTC says the body is now 90 percent metal, compared to last year's 70 percent.)

HTC One (M8) vs. HTC One (M7)HTC One (M8) vs. HTC One (M7)

The 2014 HTC One is a better-looking, more sophisticated smartphone.

The curved sides make this year's HTC One more comfortable to hold, though it feels just a little slicker in the hand, and that's especially true of the "gunmetal gray" model we've been using over the past week. (The gold and silver M8s have a more M7-like matte finish.) What's more, the wraparound design presents fewer opportunities for weird join issues of the kind we noticed on some earlier 2013 HTC Ones, particularly around the speakers. By contrast, the screen, speakers and chassis of the 2014 model fit perfectly, with no gaps or inconsistencies in our review device.

There's no doubt that the 2014 HTC One is the better-looking, more sophisticated smartphone — the result of a year of refinement for an already great design. As we say in our full review, it feels like a phone from the future. Perhaps more impressively, it makes the M7, with its sharper angles and plastic sides, seem old.

The M8 boasts a 5-inch display, up from the M7's 4.7 inches, and as such there's a noticeable increase in footprint size, particularly height-wise — the new HTC One is 146.36mm tall, up from 137.4mm on the already lofty M7. That means tasks like dragging the notification shade down and reaching controls at the top of the screen are a little harder, and you're more likely to have to two-hand the M8 in certain instances. Personally, I didn't find in any way awkward to hold — though admittedly I've spent much of the past four months using the bulky Sony Xperia Z1. Phil Nickinson says he's adjusted pretty easily to the larger device.

M7 + M8 buttons

We were able to adjust to the new on-screen keys relatively quickly.

HTC's made the switch to on-screen keys, having used a somewhat controversial two-button setup on the 2013 HTC One — so you get a dedicated task-switching button in addition to back and home. But it also means the "HTC" bar beneath the screen doesn't really do anything besides show you the manufacturer's logo. (Though as HTC is keen to point out, there's plenty of electronics hiding behind that black bar.)

If you're coming to the M8 from an M7, you might end up trying to tap the nonfunctional spaces either side of the HTC logo for the first few hours with the phone, but the adjustment to the new key setup is, in our experience, relatively quick.

M7 vs M8

We've talked a lot about metal here, but the one patch of plastic on the M8 is also worth discussing. It's found at the top of the phone, where it contains the power button and IR blaster, in addition to housing the antennae and other gubbins. (Of course, you can't have a completely all-metal phone if you want to be able to send and receive radio waves — which is kind of important.) But the curved design of this area fits with the overall look of the device.

Elsewhere, you'll find the headphone jack has moved down below, next to the microUSB port. And there's an extra tray on the right edge to house a microSD card — something missing from the old HTC One. And the power button has shifted across to the right, which might make it more difficult for right-handed folks to press. Fortunately that's not the only way to switch on the M8 — HTC's got a wide range of gesture controls for powering on its new phone without using the power button. Double-tap to power on and go to the lock screen, or swipe in various directions to unlock and jump to BlinkFeed, your home screen or the last-used app.

M7 + M8

Internal hardware and specs

A typical generational shift in smartphone tech — faster chips, bigger screens and better battery life.

The internal hardware is arguably the least interesting aspect of the new HTC One, and for the most part you're dealing with a typical generational shift in smartphone tech compared to last year's model. A Snapdragon 801 CPU, up from last year's 600. A 5-inch 1080p display, up from 4.7. And a 2600mAh battery, stepping up from the M7's 2300mAh cell. A tiny nanoSIM instead of the less tiny (and more common) microSIM.

What's more interesting — aside from the clear performance boost delivered by the faster internals — are the changes to the audio and camera hardware.

HTC says the BoomSound speakers, first introduced on the M7, are some 25 percent louder in the M8 — and based on our unscientific testing, the new device's speakers things certainly seem a little boomier.

And the new HTC One boasts an improved Ultrapixel sensor — an upgraded module, and not the same sensor from last year, HTC tells us — coupled with a secondary camera used to gather depth information. That second sensor lets you add all manner of depth-sensitive effects to your photos, including 3D illusions and selective defocusing. As far as image quality goes, the second-generation Ultrapixel setup fixes some of our gripes with the M7's camera. But some issues remain, and the relatively low megapixel count means you're not going to capture as much fine detail as many rivals. We'll dive further into camera differences later in this article — and of course there's even more in our HTC One (M8) review.

M8 and M7 buttons

One hardware difference worth mentioning is the somewhat surprising downgrade in the base level of internal storage — M8 buyers will choose from 16 or 32GB of built-in flash, versus 32 or 64GB on the M7. That's bad news for anyone wanting a massive helping of internal flash, but the addition of removable storage goes some way towards addressing this, allowing you to offload music and photos to a microSD card.

Moving onto battery life, we've noticed a sizeable bump in longevity compared to last year's HTC One — however our praise should be tempered with the fact that we've been using a British M8 in the U.S., which means no LTE. However our own Phil Nickinson has been getting 15 hours or so per charge, up from around 12 on the M7. And the new HTC One also supports faster charging through Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 standard, something lacking from last year's model. On top of that, the M8 expands upon the M7's battery saving features with Extreme Battery Saver mode, which lets you shut off most of the phone's higher functions to eke precious hours out of the last few percent of charge.

Here's a quick breakdown of some of the major internal hardware differences between the old and new HTC One —

Category 2013 HTC One (M7) 2014 HTC One (M8)
Dimensions 137.4 x 68.2 x 9.3mm 146.36 x 70.6 x 9.35 mm
Weight 143g 160g
Colors Glacial Silver, Stealth Black, Gold, Glamor Red, Vivid Blue Gunmetal Gray, Glacial Silver, Amber Gold
Display 4.7-inch, 1080p, Gorilla Glass 2 5.0 inch, 1080p, Gorilla Glass 3
CPU Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor
1.7GHz (APQ8064T)
Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor
2.5GHz quad-core CPU in Asia/China (MSM8974AC)
2.3GHz quad-core CPU in US/EMEA (MSM8974AB)
Platform Android 4.4 with HTC Sense 5.5 (with upgrade), HTC BlinkFeed Android 4.4 with HTC Sense 6, HTC BlinkFeed
SIM Card Type microSIM nanoSIM
Internal Storage 32/64GB 16/32GB + microSD up to 128GB
Camera HTC Ultrapixel Camera (4MP)
F2.0 aperture and 28 mm lens
2.1MP front-facing camera
1080p video
HTC Ultrapixel Camera + Duo Camera (4MP)
F2.0 aperture and 28 mm lens
5.0MP front-facing camera
1080p video
Battery 2300mAh non-removable 2600mAh non-removable

Sense 5 versus Sense 6

A lighter, brighter, sharper UI in Sense 6.

With a new HTC flagship comes a new version of the company's Sense UI, and while Sense 6 doesn't represent a total sea-change like its predecessor, there's a lot to get to grips with, including visual changes that make Sense seem sharper, brighter and more modern. Compared to the mostly dark aesthetic of Sense 5, the new UI features fairly bright accent colors in many apps, including BlinkFeed, Messaging and the Music player. These can be customized through the new Sense themes menu, and themes can also influence accents used elsewhere in the UI, like settings icons and quick-settings toggles.

Sense 5 vs Sense 6  Sense 5 vs Sense 6

Brighter colors and the move to an almost completely flat UI gives Sense 6 a sharper look than HTC's earlier interface. But the changes aren't too far-reaching — this still looks like HTC Sense, complete with liberal use of the Roboto Condensed font, and many of the icons we're familiar with from Sense 5.

Sense 5 vs Sense 6

BlinkFeed also makes a return, though its layout has been redesigned slightly to better incorporate visual content — and it's a little smarter too, with the ability to draw on the context of items. For example more "liked" Facebook posts will get more prominence, and it'll be able to use your device's location to recommend nearby places through Foursquare. Other significant changes in Sense 6 include Motion Control, which lets you double-tap the screen to wake it, or swipe in various directions to load straight into the home screen, BlinkFeed or your last-used app.

Sense 5 vs Sense 6

On top of that the new Gallery app has been overhauled visually, with new artistic and 3D effects, some of which use depth information captured by the second camera to work out what's in the foreground and what's in the background. Video highlights return in Sense 6, representing sort of a "best of" catalog of video themes from Sense 5 and 5.5. The IR-enabled Sense TV app is back, and now incorporates sports scores and more live information when you're watching a game, as well as related social content from Twitter and Facebook. And some of these Sense apps can even be updated through Google Play, allowing HTC to bring new features to Sense 6 phones more quickly, without pushing out a firmware update.

There's no official word on when the new Sense 6 interface might be coming to the 2013 HTC One, but given HTC's track record in this area we're sure it's a question of when and not if. It'll be interesting to see how much of the Sense 6 experience can be ported over to the M7's older internals — we wouldn't be surprised to see certain hardware-dependent features, like Motion Launch, not make the cut.

We'll take a closer look at Sense 6's new features in our full review of the M8, so be sure to check that out for more details.

HTC One M8 camera


The M8 sports an improved, but still imperfect 'Ultrapixel' camera.

The 2013 HTC One introduced us to the "Ultrapixel" camera — a 4-megapixel sensor with large (2-micron) pixels for better low-light photography. The results on the original HTC One were mixed at best. The M7 took great pictures in the dark, and the camera benefitted from fast capture speeds and a wealth of software features like Zoes — miniature three-second videos including rapid-fire photos — and automatic video highlights. But the low megapixel count meant it didn't capture a whole lot of fine detail, and images too frequently suffered from noise and wash-out due to the camera's narrow dynamic range.

So how have things improved on the M8? Well, you've got another "Ultrapixel" camera, which on paper measures up to last year's — 4 megapixels, 2-micron pixels and an f/2.0 wide-angle lens. But this is a new sensor, and there are clear improvements to be seen. There's less visible noise across the board, colors appear more accurate than on the M7, and the M8's camera does a lot better in daylight scenes than its predecessor. But this is far from a slam-dunk for HTC, and the M8 camera's real weaknesses become apparent when you compare it to the non-HTC competition.

The new HTC One's camera is an improvement, but not the quantum leap we were hoping for.

The year-old Samsung Galaxy S4 captures way more fine detail than the M8 in daylight — no surprise, as that device has a 13MP sensor. And through either over-aggressive compression or software wonkiness, you'll occasionally notice patches of chroma noise, even in well-lit scenes. A year after HTC gave us so-so image quality on the M7, the M8 offers an improvement, but not the quantum leap we were hoping for. And when it comes to straight-up image quality, we've seen better from the likes of Sony and Samsung. As before, though, HTC seems more focused on ease of use, and features like Zoes and video highlights than fidelity alone.

HTC's camera UI has improved in leaps and bounds.

The HTC camera UI, however, has improved in leaps and bounds. It's evolved from a fairly unintuitive list of text-based options in Sense 5 to something much more full-featured and user-friendly in Sense 6. You'll find six main modes including the staple "photo," "video," "selfie" and "Zoe" capabilities, as well as dual capture, which debuted in Sense 5.5. And there's also Panorama 360, HTC's take on Google's Photosphere, one of the best implementations of this feature we've seen.

Should you want to use that all-new "selfie" mode, you'll appreciate that the front-facing camera also gets a significant upgrade on the M8, jumping from 2.1 megapixels all the way up to 5.0, allowing it to capture much more detail (more than the rear camera, in theory), while also gaining 1080p video recording capabilities.

But what about the rest of the camera equation? HTC's novel Duo Camera setup introduces a second camera to capture depth information while you're shooting photos (but not videos or Zoes) and stores this in the image's EXIF data. That enables a bunch of new depth-sensitive effects. You can selectively defocus the foreground or background, add 3D tilt effects, or selectively apply artsy filters to the background or foreground. As it relies on a hardware feature of the M8, that's not something you're going to get on the M7. And that means the new HTC One's refocusing and 3D effects are likely to remain exclusive to the newer device.

HTC One 2014 + 2013

Should you upgrade?

Perhaps the greatest achievement of the new HTC One is how old it makes the old HTC One feel.

Perhaps the greatest achievement of the new HTC One is how old it makes the old HTC One feel. The M7 was one of our favorite phones of 2013, and a year on the M8 surpasses it in every measurable way. That alone makes it a great buy, and one of the most impressive handsets we've used. The new wraparound design, faster performance, improved battery life and more attractive Sense 6 UI are all valid reasons for existing HTC One owners to jump on the M8 bandwagon.

The "Ultrapixel" camera remains a point of contention, unfortunately. Despite the wide array of genuinely impressive new software features, upgraders hoping for all of the M7's camera woes to be fixed may come away disappointed. It's not terrible, and it has gotten better. But it's very much a repeat performance of last year — and sadly, really great images are outside of this camera's reach.

Nevertheless, it's a solid upgrade over HTC's 2013 flagship, and as we've said in our full review, a phone we can solidly recommend, especially to those already happy with the HTC ecosystem. It's a familiar, yet much improved experience. The real challenge will come later this year, when the new HTC One goes up against fresh challengers from Samsung, Sony and LG.

More: HTC One (M8) review, HTC One (M8) forums


Reader comments

One versus One: Comparing HTC's all-new flagship to its predecessor


This makes me mad "HTC" bar beneath the screen doesn't really do anything besides show you the manufacturer's logo. and that 4 ultrapixel" damnnn htc not this year at least for me

I disagree. I think the M7 looks far better than the M8.

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+1 ...I agree totally, ever since all the leaks were coming out and whatnot Ive seemed to always prefer the M7's look .. Not that I dislike the M8 but I don't know what it is about it ... I cant seem to put my finger on it

And other than while watching videos, you probably get about the same effective screen size in a smaller phone.

The original One definitely looks better, IMO.

I do like the wrap-around case as the white plastic on the original One is known to yellow some and get dirty easily. Aside from that point, I like the original better as well. Although on screen controls would be a nice change from the overly easy to press capacitive home/back buttons.

Definitely, in a few aspects as well. The M8 looks more rounded, and the four corners look a bit empty, while in the M7 the speakers take up more space, which makes it kind of look like it uses the space better. Plus the HTC logo now looks just stupid, as it doesn't have any buttons anymore. Plus the phone is bigger, and as much as bigger is better, I have an increasing attitude that phones are becoming too big. So yeah, overall, in terms if design, I'd much rather have the M7.

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It's tempting but I'm happy with my current HTC One. There isn't 1 thing about the new One that screams buy me if you already own the 2013 version.
Kudos to HTC for saying the original One will get Sense 6.0.
Thanks to AC for a great comparison and all of the One coverage. Awesome job guys!

In the chart the front facing camera specs are backwards but this side by side comparison makes me want this phone even more

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Guess it might be a typo looking at the camera section of the side-by-side spec comparison. Isn't it the other way around? Like 2.1 front facing cam on 2013 compared to 5.0 on the 2014 model.

Am a bit dissapointed with the ultrapixel camera specs though. Was kind of hoping for a mp equivalent bump. HTC should have knocked the specs out of the park. Anyways, at least the option is now there to have more control over settings with manual mode.

Am still deciding on whether to trade in my M7 for the M8. Will sense 6.0 for M7 have the manual shooting mode?

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btw the front facing camera specs in the comparison table are switched .. :P :)

update - just saw that someone mentioned this already, sorry, please ignore this post

M8 vs. G2.....
Screens : 5" vs. 5.2"
CPUs : 801 vs 800
Cameras : 4 Ultra pixels vs. 13 megapixels w/OIS
Gestures with screen off : 7 vs. 3
Gestures with screen on : 0 vs. 1

(Most importantly)
Next irritation of device : 1 year vs. A couple of months

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Solid review, but pardon me for being a "Donnie Downer" but this doesn't excite me nor compells me to even consider this device. With the specs this phone has, it feels like it slated to be forgotten as soon as it comes out. HTC has made some great strides, but the specs/features are items that you can find in LG or Samsung devices.

HTC will grab me when they have:
- intuitive stylus
- seamless integration with social media hubs to have central source to post and read feads (think Polarbear App Meets Social Life for Sony devices)
- Battery life that is insane even when a user has like 200 apps on the phone and like 15 apps running at the same time.
- Floating resizable multiwindow
- Theming entire UI, for deep level of customization (HTC own version of Themer/Buzz Launcher app)
- Reading the news from buzz feed aloud.

This is a little more than my 2 cents, but HTC could have the top spot but will never achieve with the pattern they're on now.

Which Samsung device gives you all of that? Also, why would you want the manufacturer to supply this stuff (such as the social media integration) as bloatware when you can pick and choose exactly what fits you in the play store? One reason I stay away from Samsung is way too much stuff built in.

There isn't one, but if HTC wants to take the market these are a few items that hasn't been yet by any manufacturers. HTC has some innovation, but still in the box. with the One series.

Definitely, not but look at what the top compettion have. Samsung - the range in device offerings, s-pen, touchwiz signature apps/features. LG - one click button, screen, and camera, Motorola - build quality, active display, battery life, direct device customization, HTC has what...speakers, and a metal casing...what else grabs the average user that you can't get from other manufacturers for the same price point. HTC has nothing that automatically sway you for features that you can't get somewhere else. Once again I want to state HTC makes good devices, but the point I'm going for is each manufacturer has a niche that notifiably set them aside which HTC has not mastered yet, and really could dominate if they refine their approach more and development geared to areas that other manufacturers aren't charting yet or not charting effectively.

HTC is setting themselves up to be the next Palm

Ok, I get your point, you are looking for HTC to step up to the plate on what the others are missing. I agree.

I agree ....... You can buy a N5 and a Moto G (for a beater) and still have change in your pocket. Seriously ........ why throw good money on a device that adds just a little more .... and nothing that you can't do on a N5? But, many just buy a phone to say, "look I've the latest greatest"! It amazes me! I'd buy a Moto X before I'd spend $600.00 + for the M8!!

Totally agree, and really only very savvy Android users will understand the hardware and how to apply it in everyday life.

But most users are not that savvy, average consumer just want certain key features to work, and to look nice...too many waste their money on devices that soon as they buythem will be considered archaic a few months after purchasing it.

I didn't answer all your questions, but can't escape the bloat. But if their social media intergration was fluid with the UI plus usesful and able to connect to the 5 providers they could reduce users going to other apps and create a dependency/ give users a cohesive experience. Side note: HTC did have a clunky way of doing through one of their widgets that connected to Twitter and FB in earlier versions of sense. HTC really could some useful bloat, instead of companies like Samsung that go overboard with the bloat.

I like what HTC is doing. Impressed that they included an external memory option. But the important option, for me, the M8 doesn't have a removable battery. For me ...that's a big deal. I wont be buying either the S5 or M8. If I were buying a phone and had to compromise my desire for a removable battery .... I'd still buy the Nexus 5. It's $349.00 unlocked. For me ..... the extra $300.00 + you pay for the S5 and M8 gives you terrible "bang for the buck". Sure it's "latest and greatest" but I'm not bending over!

I'll never understand the non-removable battery argument with what is available today. I have a charger that will charge my One 3 times and it's barely larger than the battery on my old Evo.

"One reason I stay away from Samsung is way too much stuff built in"

If I was forced to use it, it would be an issue. But you can turn it all off (I know I did).

A lot of that is the Note 3 but you are expecting to much

You really should see the crap I don't post. Sorry if honesty offends you

Doesn't offend, I hear what you saying but I do want it all and don't feel I'm expecting too much when the technology in play can make it happen and with relative ease..when it comes to companies like HTC, and their competitors they market their stuff as their devices do have it all and are setting some invisible bar having the latest and greatest...

Ironically I own a note 3 but have had devices from the all the main competition except LG.

Some of the items on your list seem a little confused.

For the "central source to post and read feeds", aren't there already Android apps out there to do this? That's generally not something I would say *should* be built directly into the phone. Android's intent system makes it perfectly easy to pass data around, so there's no reason you *have* to build something like that directly into the OS.

Amazing battery life with 200 apps installed an 15 running? OK... the number of apps installed on a device does not, in and of itself, affect battery life. Let's get that bit of confusion out of the way. As for running 15 at a time? What the holy hell are you doing running 15 apps at a time?! At most, I can only really conceive peaking out at 3 or 4. If you're referring to apps "loaded in memory" that's a completely different story that I won't get into here, because this is already getting long. Sufice it to say that apps loaded into memory (if they are written correctly) and not performing an active task (like syncing email) should not have a measurable affect on battery life.

Now, if you're talking about actually having 15 apps *running*, you're asking for HTC to find some way to break the laws of physics. Battery technology just isn't there yet, unfortunately. And that's not HTC's fault.

Theming entire UI. Again, I'm not quite sure what you mean, but it you're talking about themeing apps and making *everything* look the same, that's again asking for the impossible.

Despite the other things that HTC is guilty of leaving out, I don't think most of those items are deal-breakers for mainstream users. If HTC can keep making quality phones, and get the marketing behind those devices, then they just might pull themselves out of their financial slump.

The camera and battery were the two things I was worried about. Battery looks promising enough, but that camera is just disappointing. Ahhh I want it but darn.

I will stay with my M7 until my contract is up next May and then probably go with the M9 which I hope will at least be an 8 ultrapixel design.

Would you guys say the N5 camera is better than the M8? Because I've really been watching this new M8 but the size and good (but not that much better) camera isn't helping me off this fence.

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I haven't touched it yet, but not by a long shot the M8 has to be better since the M7 already was by a long shot

You really should see the crap I don't post. Sorry if honesty offends you

A bit disappointing. Not enough for me to upgrade from my m7. Was hoping for more pixels and much improved battery. Experia Z2 for me I think. It's more future proof...

Do any of you guys think this is a good upgrade from a Galaxy s4? Because I'm Very tempted to upgrade right now

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No it's not. Keep the S4. It's a good phone and still "top Notch"! The M8 is very nice. It doesn't offer much more that what you've got! Unless you just want to throw your money away!

Fair point... I'll probably save my upgrade for something more special later on this year.

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The rumored specs of the LG G3 sound promising but their updates are very slow. New top of the line hardware shipped with last year's OS is the way they roll.

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Not unless you consume large amounts of media from the device. The speakers really are fantastic on the M7, and are being reviewed as improved so if you use the speakers it is worth it.

You will lose some detail in camera images and the inability to do much in terms of zooming & cropping, but if it is like the M7 camera, it will be a really versatile camera that takes good photos in all conditions as opposed to great photos in some conditions and crap in other conditions, like the S4.

Are you worry about get cash in your Perfect money, Bitcoin or Paypal. Now get upload your belance with wester union

Please stop putting little blocks of text as headlines or tempters. I don't want to read the same thing twice!

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Whole lot of fail. It always seems that HTC makes one part of the phone well and everything else is lacking sometimes

You really should see the crap I don't post. Sorry if honesty offends you

All they need to do is perfect the camera and shrink the phone while keeping Boomsound, the build quality, and that gorgeous screen and they have the perfect smartphone. Sense is by far the best skin to me too.

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So someone that is coming from the EVO 4G LTE I have been watching and waiting for the release. However I have no other experience with the M7 than looking at it in the store thinking that this is an impressive upgrade to what I have. However, I would be downgrading from an 8MP rear camera on the EVO and upgrading from a 1.3 front. Take camera specs aside, still an improvement altogether from the EVO to the M7 or M8.

Now looking at the difference between the M7 and M8:

1) M8 have a faster CPU and Quadcore compared to the M7.
2) Bigger screen/Bigger form factor. Meh ok, it's bigger. But I would not want to go more than this since I carry my phone in my pocket.
3) Bigger battery. Not by much, but still an improvement.
4) Software improvements, Sense 6, other enhancements. Maybe some are more obvious than others, but no one really knows where these improvements pass/fail until it gets into the hands of the masses.

Now what I hear from everyone is this...

1) Stupid HTC Logo on the front screen causing the bezel to be to big. True, but what is under the hood that may or may not require the extra space? Could they have used the the extra space to evened it out more to be more visually pleasing. YES but not a deal breaker for me.

2) No real improvement on the camera. Sure, it's not 8MP Ultrapixel that everyone was hoping for. But the sensor is better. And OIS was removed. Well yes, that is a big downgrade there. But being a semi-pro photographer, (more like advanced hobbyist) if I want to take real pictures, I will do so with my real camera. I am sure I going to get flamed for that one, but the truth of the matter is, although camera phones are much, much better than say 2-3 years ago. I have seen point and shoots with 13-20MP take worse pictures than I have seen with camera phones. So for me at least, this is not a big deal breaker.

Bottom line I understand that the M7 may not be that big of an improvement over the M8. And I can understand some of the disappointment where some improvements should have been a given from the previous model, I just don't get the whole, just because it does not have this improvement or this feature added, it is just an "all out dealbreaker for me."

Maybe it is just from where I sit that I don't get the disgruntled comments of certain things that seem miniscule at best.

And before anyone comes back saying I have not clue what I am talking about, previous to my current tech job, I have a little over 15 years in the cell phone industry, so I have had my hands on plenty of devices. Some so craptacular I can't believe that they even made it to market to some pretty cool ones that never did.

Just my .02 worth.....

All the other stuff you mentioned as positive is overshadowed but another crappie camera.

Don't care about bezels and all that.

You really should see the crap I don't post. Sorry if honesty offends you

As someone else with a real camera (two actually) the lacklustre camera is not an issue either.

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Different people have different priorities. I don't see the need to downplay someone else's opinion of what they feel is a "deal breaker". Honestly, the front HTC logo and same Ultrapixel camera is what is stopping me from buying the phone right now. The sensor is the same as the one from last year, not sure how you say it's better [minus OIS of course].

When the hell is the Z2 going to come to America...

I chose the htc one m7 over the galaxy s4 due to its premium feel and overall size. 4.7" in my opinion is the sweet spot when it comes to smartphones. Not too big nor small. The new HTC one is just a tad too big for my taste. I'll pass and keep my original htc one

A lot of nitpicking today huh? It's gotta blow last year's model out of the water tenfold or it is no good right? This happens every time a new device come out. First ones to show up are the fanboys and power mongering perfectionists.

Get the popcorn folks and let the flaming begin!!!!!!

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How can we be enthusiasts and NOT nitpick things we don't like? I have a M7, Nexus 5, and iPhone 4S.....none of them are perfect...I've got complaints about all of them. Since when did we have to become complacent and not critique and demand more? That's when things become stagnant because people don't want to dream or innovate.

Honestly, both the "M7" and "M8" pictures in the above gallery look fine to me. I understand that people have issues with 4MP when cropping, but I just don't consider the camera/image quality to be so awful that it's a deal-breaker. Admittedly, I'm not taking photos of important, memorable events with my smartphone, though.

I wonder what led to the removal of OIS, however.

From the reviews, it seems the brushed gunmetal variety is slick, but the glacial silver version seems to be the same smooth yet grippy aluminum as the M7. Not sure about the gold one, but it appears to resemble the silver one.

I am not entirely certain the "motion gestures" would be hardware dependent. Sure, HTC probably won't bring them to the M7 since it is a selling point of the M8, but it would be capable.

There are many custom kernels that already enable this ability on the M7. Since they are implemented at the kernel level, there is no battery cost and it works very well. I use it constantly on my M7 GPE.

When you compare the battery specs of the M7 to M8 @, the M8 has 2 hours longer talk time however 4 hours less standby time. Obviously incorrect data.

Capacity: 2600 mAh
Talk time: Up to 20 hours for 3G
Standby time: Up to 496 hours for 3G

Capacity : 2300 mAh
Talk time: Up to 18 hours for 3G
Standby time: Up to 500 hours for 3G

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My one is getting delivered in the next hour. My first ever smart phone was a HTC hero then the S2 and S3. I've waited two patient years for an upgrade and felt it right to go back to HTC. The build quality is second to none and they aren't afraid to try something new. The ultra pixel camera was a big risk and yes it should have been 8UP instead of 4 but with the depth of field sensor as a new edition I feel this could be the start of something great for HTC. I don't need a heart monitor or a fingerprint scanner thanks.

Can't wait for my new device

Honestly, I think the new gray version looks fantastic, but I'm not gonna be upgrading from my M7. Why?

1) 5" screen. The M7 is already bigger than I want (I use it primarily one-handed, and 4.3" is the sweet-spot for that, for me), and 5" is just too much. I'm hoping to avoid getting a phone this large, if possible.

2) I actually like the old chamfered edges and polycarbonate better than the new rounded, all metal sides. Not a deal-breaker, but still something I'd miss.

3) No OIS on the camera? That just sucks.

4) Not enough of an upgrade to the camera. I actually really like the Ultrapixel camera (although in sunlight it's a little touch and go), but if I'm getting a new version of the same phone, it needs to be a big upgrade, and it sounds like this isn't.

While it's a LITTLE disappointing, it's also nice that they've managed to put together such fantastic phones the last two years that either one is good enough.

As thick as Apple's iPhone 4 released in 2010.
Ignoring that, this is the best Android phone.. it has only one problem: Android