Motorola-Lenovo

We talked at length Friday about Google selling Motorola to Lenovo. There are the business implications, of course. And there's what it means for Motorola in the larger Android ecosystem. But the No. 1 question we've gotten in the days since the deal was announced was "Do I need to worry about Lenovo supporting the Moto X and Moto G as well as we've come to expect?"

The short answer is, I have no idea. And since the Moto X is still my daily driver, I've got a vested interest.

A few things to consider, though: It'd be in Lenovo's best interest to maintain the status quo. Nobody has been able to bust out updates like Motorola has when it came to getting Android 4.4 KitKat onto its phones. I'd love to see some sort of public pledge to that same level of service. (Sadly, though, I fear lawyers could keep that from happening.) If Lenovo really wants to make a difference, it'd also find a way to keep the low-cost pricing in the picture. I can't say enough about the importance of a usable$200 off-contract phone.

Back to updates. On the other hand, now that Moto's got the KitKat release out the door (and MRs to 4.4.2 are on the way), it's likely bought itself (erm, Lenovo, I suppose) some time, as we shouldn't see a new major release until late in the year. 

Also consider that Motorola has offloaded a lot of features into traditional applications that can be updated through Google Play. Not everything, of course, but there's a lot that can be done that way. And, more important, is that doing things that way bypasses carrier certification, often the bottleneck in the update process.

Back to the original question, though. Would I, in good conscience, recommend the Moto X or Moto G right now? Absolutely. I'm still very much a glass-half-full guy. This Lenovo/Motorola deal isn't like Palm and HP. Could bad things happen? Sure. But that's just fearing the worst without a shred of evidence to support it.

Please don't prove me wrong, Lenovo.

A few other thoughts on the week that was:

  • This single, unsourced rumor that Google's Sundar Pichai (who oversees Chrome as well as Android) is a "front-runner" to be Microsoft's next CEO is brilliant. Even if it's total bullshit — and I have no idea, but this just smells funny — the original publication can say, "Hey, we just said he was a 'front-runner,' not that he was a done deal" and still be right. Oy.
  • Have I mentioned lately how much I loathe anonymous sources?
  • AT&T's updated family plans look like they certainly can save folks some money. A quick check of the math shows my wife and I could shave $15 or $20 a month off our bill.
  • But I have to check on the fine print. You have to declare "Designated Devices" that can pull from the data bucket. Fine for most folks, but not those of us who need to switch phones frequently. Remember that you pay a little more with every additional phone.
  • Anyone remember when being on a GSM operator meant not having to deal with the same crap you do with CDMA? Anyhoo.
  • Speaking of operators, I loved seeing the back-and-forth on Andrew's T-Mobile editorial last week. It's OK if you don't agree with him. He might even be wrong. But that doesn't mean it's not a valid opinion.
  • That said, perhaps I should have titled Friday's podcast "The one where Phil throws Andrew under the bus." Whoops. My fault for asking a question I didn't know the answer to. (Fast forward to 46 minutes in.)
  • I've started using Google Hangouts again to make traditional phone calls on the computer. It's still a little slow to answer an incoming call, but it works great.

And that's it for this week. No Super Bowl prediction from me. Just hoping for a great game. See y'all on Monday.

 

Reader comments

From the Editor's Desk: Uncertain times ...

137 Comments

With carriers pushing paying full price up front for a phone, it would be a great market opportunity for Levono to keep on producing phone that are $200 less than it's rivals. A "medium" speced phone like the X, can go very far with unsubsidized pricing.

BTW, who gets to keep Moto assist, and the other unique Moto X software features, Google or Lenovo?

I think I remember reading that even though Google is keeping the majority of the patents, they worked out a licensing deal with Lenovo to continue using them on Motorola products.

I don't think Google is greedy enough keep these features to themselves and basically leave Motorola hanging without any of its cool features that their customers have grown to love.

If Google owned those features, all KitKat devices would have them. And they would be called Google Assist, etc.

I highly doubt Moto Assist is patented (or patented in a way it can't be replicated). I mean, there are standalone apps that do similar stuff and Samsung has similar features.
My point is that Google will most likely incorporate something like this into next Android release. Or perhaps a standalone app in a play store.

I doubt that they have a patent as well, but it doesnt mean that they are going to put it anywhere. It could become part of the Nexus skin, but it does not have to go to AOSP

So much for the last American made phones

Now their owned by China

Never getting a Moto again, I'll stick with America's allies

Taiwan (HTC) or south Korea (LG or Samsung)

Posted via Android Central App

They were assembled in the US, but remember all of the components come from other places ... Primarily China.

Posted via Android Central App

Do you realize how much shit is sitting around you right now that came from China? Just look around the room. Globalization d bag.

The thing here is that it is partially owned by the Chinese government. Regardless of if they actually have a say so in the day to day operations, this could cause problems if certain politicians find out and try to put a stop to the sale.

You know a lot of people haven't said this but google has literally ripped apart Motorola. Motorola was a legendary communications company that pioneered cell phones and even radios. Google has stripped them of their patents, kept their key employees, and took everything good about motorola.

Sure moto has a license for their own patents but now they have to ask for permission to use their own technology? Its not a good situation for moto. People are asking about all this uncertainty with them and what it means.

If lenovo is smart they will hang on to the moto x as much as they can because they will never have the same level of innovation. Moto will basically have to start from scratch after the current product pipeline is through.

Another question people are not asking is what does this mean for the Verizon droid line? Will all future droids still be exclusive to moto?

Posted via Android Central App

I know they were going bankrupt but the point is moto will not be the same. Google stripped the company down and turned motorola into a brand and that is what lenovo got.

Posted via Android Central App

And that is what lenovo wanted.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted via my thumbs and Google Keyboard. N7 2013

and that is why I am a bit more skeptical as to what they will do a year from now. They are a in essence just a name and a few contracts...the inner workings are gone.

Still think they will be ok, but I am not sure that they will keep the Moto X things going...

You keep talking about Motorola as if they're a company. They're not. I forget if it was Phil or Jerry, but whoever said it was spot on - Motorola died the minute Google bought them. The smartphone division carried on for a while under Google, but what's being sold to Lenovo is basically a brand name. That's it.

This is no different than Lenovo buying the Thinkpad brand from IBM, HP Buying up Compaq and Palm, or any number of other acquisitions. At this point, Motorola is just a name Americans are familiar with, and that's what Lenovo wanted. They might try to carry on some of Motorola's design principals in their new products, but thinking that Motorola still exists as some sort of cohesive, self contained company is incorrect.

I said the are just a name and a bunch of contracts, but at least in the short term they have a design direction. The droid line did not really change all that much going from Motorola to Google, but it is only going to be 2 generations. Let's see what happens in fall 2015

Agreed on the Droid line, but that probably has a lot to do with the degree to which Verizon calls the shots on them - it's their signature line, more or less.

I was more responding to the comment that "they will still be ok". For all intents and purposes, there is no they anymore. Anything that carries the Motorola name will be purely a Lenovo product, with the Motorola name and maybe some styling queues used to get Americans to buy from a company they don't normally associate with phones - Lenovo.

I hope the Droid line dies and Lenovo releases a 5" MotoX-like phone on all caries and in all countries (like any other flagship phone).

Droid is not going anywhere, Verizon spent too much money, and wasnt it just a year ago that they said that they are going to be Motorola made...

Verizon spent 200 million dollars on droid the first year it came out, they have a lot invested in the brand and the licensing.

"Another question people are not asking is what does this mean for the Verizon droid line? Will all future droids still be exclusive to moto?"

That depends on whether Verizon wants Droids from another company.

A better question would be whether Lenovo would start selling the Droids (under another name) on other carriers.

I doubt they will sell Droids on any other carrier, it is verizons name, they paid for it, promoted it, and trademarked it. I am guessing that is why you do no see the Maxx battery in other phones....

I'm sure we won't see Droids on any carrier other than Verizon.

But phones that are very similar to the Droids--or at least some of them? I'm not so sure.

I dont think vzw will mind too much......I have a vzw hotspot made by ZTE, which from my perception via nerd sites we all love, Lenovo is the Chinese front runner for mobility, even computing, here in the states. I have a Lenovo brick of a laptop. Decent until I had to replace hard drive. Worst. Customer. Service. Ever.

Posted via Android Central App

It is a shame about Motorola Mobility. I remember back in the late 90's going to the Motorola campus in Schaumburg, IL (NW suburbs of Chicago) and seeing the museum exibit they had there, and realizing how important Motorola was to the development of radio and cellular technology going all the way back to the 1940's.

But saying that Motorola has been in trouble since the early 2000's with the lack of upper management leadership and increasing competition which resulted in huge layoffs. Even though they had some great hits like the Moto Razr and the Droid phones.

Ironic that the company that developed the Six Sigma style of running a company couldn't, in the end, save themselves.

+1! Only reason I'm even rooting for the Seahawks is because T-Mobile is HQ'd there.

Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile

Jay, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but you're turning into the white version of Richard...
PIMPSLAP! PERIOD!

I like that the overrated/overhyped big 2 are finally, finally starting to be forced to be more competitive, and I hope in the coming years, that the market will level out some.

Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile

A pity to see Motorola Mobility stripped of its skunkworks section and patents and sold for scraps to Lenovo. Was with IBM when they sold their PC/Laptop line to Lenovo and I'm not sure how a new ThinkPad stacks up to the quality of the IBM T41 ThinkPad I'm typing this response on but Lenovo as a whole seems to be doing well. I see the Motorola purchase as merely a means of entry into the North American Market. I'm more concerned if Google will kill off their Nexus line and go with only the GPe line although if said line were available in Canada from the Play Store I'm fine with that - would love a GPe Sony Z Ultra right now.

I was actually a little upset with this announcement. I value battery life over anything and its gonna hurt if they don't continue the Maxx line. Currently I have the Razr Maxx HD and get 3 full days between charges. Plus it was the last android os company from the US, as far as I know. Most of the other manufactures phones feel cheaply made to me. Spouse has S3 and I feel its going to break with the slightest drop. Thank god for trident cases. Motorola is also a large employer locally and that concerns me. Nothing against Lenovo. I actually use a few products made by them without any issues.

I really hope they keep supporting our phones the same way it has been. I'm not sure about other phones besides Moto X and Moto G, though.

Sent via Android Central App

I can see two future's coming. For now, Lengooglrola (the transition team) will keep the X and G running fine for the next year. Timely updates, etc. All the legwork on those phones are done, its just keeping them bug-free.

Future phones (those appearing in 2015 or 2016) will go one of two ways imo.

1.) Pricy Samsung-like superphones with lots of bloat, skins, and unique features. They will try to fight Samsung on its home turf by going spec-war and feature rich. It will have a lot of the same advantages and disadvantages of Samsung as well: cool features (s-pen, smart scroll, etc) but slow updates.

2.) Cheap phones designed for low-mid range consumers. They will churn out low-spec phones with bone-stock android and little-to-no support. They will be at an appealing price-point ($100-300) but in no way compete with the quality or support of HTC, Sony, Samsung, or Apple.

These two futures are not mutually exclusive, btw.

I just feel that Lenovo will look at Motorola's losses during the X/G/Droid era and decide that is not a successful strategy, and then try to either copy success or shoot for quick profit.

As always, I could be wrong.

"I just feel that Lenovo will look at Motorola's losses during the X/G/Droid era and decide that is not a successful strategy

this is the part that makes the most sense (well the rest does too, but that is just common sense)

selling a phone that costs $300 to make for 250 is never going to lead to profit. This is why they will combine your points one and two can copy Samsung.

Lenovo has a skin all ready...

I know when I see a Lenovo smart phone that were never gonna see in the states......like the one all metal with exposed screws.....the mechanic in me loves it! Maybe something will show from the lenovooogle that will blow us all away.....for $200

Posted via Android Central App

I feel like I broke another one. I went for the Samsung Blackjack line back in the physical keyboard days and running on Windows Mobile. It was a good phone but didn't get promised updates . I had the Samsung Jack briefly before moving onto a Palm Pre Plus. I loved that phone, but we all know how that went down. Next I moved to the Moto Atrix which didn't even get updated past Gingerbread. (though it was originally promised to) I got an Atrix 2 because it was free but again, it didn't get the updates it should have (though they did offer a $100 trade up) I got the Moto X because "the guys at AC" seemed to give it 2 thumbs up. I really like it, but if this phone suddenly loses support, I may actually move to iPhone (briefly) just to see if I can singlehandedly tank Apple.

Posted via Android Central App

Wow, so it's either Motorola or bust eh? That's fine the android community won't miss you. IPhone never.

Posted via Android Central App

Agree! There are several manufacturers to choose from, that's what makes Android so great. I've had Motorola, LG, and Samsung. Apple is way too controlling and proprietary of a company.

Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile

So, you have a beef with someone trying out a different product?

Ok.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Obviously, android obviously is not good enough to compete with the iPhone /sarcasm.

I mean if you're that worried when someone tries out a different os then obviously your os is either BB10 or Mozilla OS

Sent from inside a cave. Yes, T-Mobile covers caves. N5

I think you totally missed the point of his post. It wasn't a pro-Apple or anti-Android post. It was tongue-in-cheek comment that every device he has purchased and used has in someway become a failure, so he assumes he is the cause of the failures. He is going to now buy an iPhone to attempt to cause Apple's downfall with his bad luck.

For your homework assignment I want you to look up the following words in a dictionary: 1. Irony 2. Sarcasm and 3. Humor (or humour across the pond).

I think his point is that every phone he's tried has tanked do he might as well spread his bad juju over on the Apple side.

I'm glad some of you understood the ironic intention of my post. I wouldn't ever switch to iPhone because I don't want to deal with iTunes.
I really like Android. I have a limited budget though so I always try to pick the best of what I can afford. There must be a reason why the S4 price hasn't dropped as fast as other devices. S4 was on my shortlist, but the AC reviews (and a black Friday sale) helped sway me towards the X.

I will say this about IPhone, most of its user base seem very happy with their devices.

Posted via Android Central App

While it's true that many iPhone users are happy with their devices, if you really start a conversation about what it's like to try and accomplish a remotely complicated task, I know plenty of friends whole will break into swearing rants about their iPhones. And then they'll say "oh, but I really do like my iPhone."

It is what it is. Personally, I am frequently shocked by all of the things you simply *cannot* do on an iPhone.

It's easy. Never buy another Motorola phone after the X. Lenovo will ruin their future phones with all that bloatware and cheap materials they use just like the other Chinese OEMs Xiaomi and Oppo.

Oppo has great build quality.

I think lenovo will try hard to do what's best for moto.

Lenovo is not at all stupid. They know better then to ruin a beloved company.

Sent from inside a cave. Yes, T-Mobile covers caves. N5

Good little write up Phil. We can speculate all we want but the reality is we have no clue what's going to happen. I just hope Motorola can stay in their current trajectory.

if i was on the Board of MSFT, a guy like Sundar Pichai would be EXACTLY the type of guy i'd be going after for CEO. MSFT needs fresh blood - an outsider who can come in and bring in a fresh perspective and refresh the company's many years of stagnant innovation and culture. and if i'm a guy like Sundar Pichai - why wouldn't i want to be CEO of MSFT? forget about the boat-loads of more money - think of the challenge and power and ability to change the world in that position/title. Larry Page is still young so i doubt he'll give up CEO any time soon. will it happen? i don't know. but it seems to make sense for both parties. for the same reason Yahoo picked off "Marissa, Marissa, Marissa!" (and was able to).

Possibly but last I heard Elop was the front runner after his successful mission to destroy Nokia.

Posted via Android Central App

Great writeup, Phil!!

The hardest thing to do is wait.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Lol Phil made this so funny when he asked the moto X about its own future hahaha Dwl Lmao ;-)

Posted via Android Central App

A few things to consider. First off, im not sure why you fanboy reviewers are still harping on the moto x and it's "fast" updates.
The single update is two months old now +/-. That update you all gush over was preplanned and ready to go at launch. It was only postponed to wait for the nexus 5's release. Which is why they never bothered with the buggy 4.3

Another issue is one nobody anywhere has touched on, which is. Why are people acting like this is a decision that came out of nowhere? If anything, it's the best kept secret in the history of tech. An industry with more leaks and "people supposedly in the know" then Washington. Do you people really think this was decided last week? Google just woke up and said, hey, let's unload Motorola! This has been in the works for several months if not longer, probably well before the launch of the moto x itself. These things don't just happen overnight. There are so many parties that had to be involved to make this deal happen, it's embarrassing all you reviewers were caught with your pants down. Not to mention, that it could be many, many more months until it closes. If it closes.

As to will Lenovo continue to support all the Old product? All I can say is, that 3 Billion has to come from somewhere! That's a lot of corners to cut and needless "back" support that doesn't need to happen. Besides, 98% of the dysmal Moto X sales were on contact, they have no monetary incentives to support them. Where are they going to go? They are locked in for 2 years!

And to all of you people still pushing the Google did it for the patents and they didn't really lose any money on the deal etc.. Really?
Name me one patent they got from Motorola's ancient stash that's still relevant and enforceable in 2014! Anything Motorola invented has been challenged, upgraded and or bypassed years ago. Add to that, Googles constant losses and horrible track record in courts around the world as it pertains to intellectual property And patents and you have a load of patents that aren't worth the paper they are written on.

"...fanboy reviewers..."

I stopped reading after that, lol.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

And that coming from the Queen of the Internet Pole Smokers. Sorry little man, you get no attention from me. Troll along now

Me, too, lol. It's been a busy week.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Ain't mad and Ain't your Bro
Anyone who acts surprised over Googles decision, doesn't pay attention.
Any anyone who thinks this decision wasn't because of Google monumental failure with Motorola is FanBoy blinded.

They just lost 8 Billion +/- on a failure of Biblical proportions. You Don't push out a product line if your very short term planned end game is to dump the company. Selling it at fire sale prices only proves they wanted out and they wanted out Bad! Getting Bent over on the sale terms also proves the Spending spree people who run Google have no clue. $660 million in cash, Motorola lost almost that much in the last two quarter! $750 million worth of Lenovo stock = that's a Write down waiting to happen and $1.5 billion in the form of a three-year promissory note = LOL - I promisem the checks in the mail! And the kicker Giving Lenovo and Samsung full use of the so called priceless patents and other Tech.

The sale was an act of desperation, Nothing more. A Freshman in sub par Buisness school will tell you that. Getting Financial news from Fanboys who couldn't show you the difference between a P&L statement and a Restaurant menu is not wise.

While I am not entirely surprised at the sale, because your right something had to happen, the rest of your statement is bunk.

Motorola has been around forever, meaning that those "ancient" patents are cornerstones for mobile devices. Something that is more than likely licensed out to more than one OEM.

It was not an act of desperation. They could have kept Moto as a Loss leader. They obviously are not going broke any time soon.

They are FRAND patents (essential to all cell phones) and have to be licensed out dirt cheap to give everyone an even chance.

Posted via Android Central App on my daily driver, the Droid MAX

Only "Bunk" is your theory.
Show me a Patent owned by Googlerola, that is relevant and enforceable today. Better yet show me one they are actively enforcing.
Your theory assumes nothing has changed in Mobile Tele com since the 70s or 80s when Motorola got the bulk of it's patents. Everything has. Every company in existence today is there because they ignored these or changed them just slightly enough to get passed them. More to the point they just evolved past them. Motorola's patents are ancient and for the most part worthless. Feel free to submit one, just one that isn't, If Google had a patent pertaining to Mobile phones that could stop Apple, You dont think they would use it? Granted Google isn't as Sue happy as the pole smokers at apple, But since Google is being sued by everybody all over the world, They would be fighting back with this 12 billion dollar treasure trove, if it actually existed.

Um...yeah.

BTW, to whom was that rant directed? I wasn't making any claims about your original comment (other than the attitude, which is pretty obvious from the langugage and punctuation).

So. Full. Of. Fail.

First, lose the attitude. It's not warranted, and any negative attention you're receiving is because you're acting superior to everyone else that disagrees with your point of view.

Did Google take a loss from the sale? Absolutely. No "fanboys" are arguing that fact.

But, it's COMPLETELY ignorant of you to ignore the other aspects of that transaction.

If you read the various news sites, they're nearly all on the same page: It's not as black and white as Google losing upwards of 8 billion dollars. You have to take into account what Google already sold prior to this point, and you have to remember what they kept and the dollar amount that they associated with what they kept.

Yes, Google wanted to exit the hardware business. And, badly. It was causing too much friction between the OEMs.

Arguably, selling Motorola for ANY price is still a win-win, despite any multi-billion dollar loss.

P. S. Stop using the fanboy label as a cop-out and actually debate for once WITHOUT the attitude.

Thanks.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

It's not an act where it concerns you.

"and you have to remember what they kept and the dollar amount that they associated with what they kept." The Key word there is THEY.

Courts around the world Don't agree with their Bean Counters. They can say they are worth whatever they want. The Courts decide the monetary figures, Not Google.
Like I said, Google Tract record with courts and settlements is lacking at best.

The Samsung Google friction is a make believe theory recently spread by you FanBoys.
First Samsung isn't going anywhere, they never were. It's called negotiating. Second. Google was losing a 1/4 Billion +/- per quarter with Motorola. They Left Because their test into the OEM facet failed. The Moto X was a sales failure. Several Price drops, Layoffs and production reductions have not changed that plain fact. Google Got out while the Getting was Good. Even if it was for pennies on the dollar, most of which may never materialize.

Fanboy isn't a cop out or a label. It's a description for people who refuse to accept reality. - If the Truth hurts, Deal with it

So, news agencies around the world are full of fanboys, and you're the only unbiased person?

And, if you read my comment, I never denied that Google lost money. And, in regards to the Moto X, I know that it didn't sell well. Just because you hate Google and Motorola doesn't mean that it wasn't a good device.

And, courts can assign monetary values. That doesn't mean that the patents are worth any less to Google.

And, you'd be a fool to say that there was no friction between Google and Samsung.

As for the word fanboy, it is a label and a cop-out. You're throwing that word around to describe everyone that disagrees with you.

Guess what? If you don't work for Google, Motorola, Samsung, or Lenovo, then you're on the outside looking in, just like the fanboys that you continue to label as such.

Stop trying to pass your opinion as gospel. It isn't.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Good write up Phil, like you I'm an optimist, and I hope Motorola makes a huge comeback

Posted via my outdated Droid RAZR Maxx HD using the Android Central App

I don't think Andrew needed to defend his article in the podcast because the article spoke for itself. What was missing was a show of support by the boss and his teammates that Andrew is a fellow colleague. Phil did chime in, but he was just rehashing the article, not reminding the audience that Andrew is a professional doing his job.

I depend on the market to keep competition strong. If Lenovo tanks the brand....so be it. I will spend my money elsewhere.

Posted via Android Central App

Mainly, most immediatly, I'm just wondering if any of this changes the intended KitKat update for my Razr Maxx HD.

I was pretty sure my next phone was likely to be whatever next gen Motorola they rolled out with the Maxx battery life, but now...

My problem with Andrews post was that it read like sour grapes by someone upset that T-Mobile was upending the apple cart.

He's entitled to his opinion, but all that matters is whether it is working for T-Mobile. (And it is)

Posted via Android Central App

No the problem is that he wrote something somewhat negative about the sacred cow, you never mock the sacred cow.

People are so blind as to what is going on, and they will not listen to reason, that it is stupid...

You NEVER mock the sacred cow! En Guarde!!

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Android Central is such a refreshing take to the news about the industry.

Posted via Android Central App

I own a BlackBerry Q10.
I was really interested in the Moto X and switching over to Android.
I watched the keynote last year and was shocked when they said it would be States only, nothing in the UK.
Then they started hyping something for the UK and I thought surely it would be a newer model. Nope. Instead they're just now releasing the Moto X 5 months after the States. And without Moto Maker, so no customisation.
And now they're not owned by Google and it's anyone's guess how things go with software support.
And on top of that the Moto X is priced stupidly in the UK, and they decided not to sell the 32GB version here, just the 16GB version.
Personally, I think some of the features like the always listening bit, the notification innovation and the battery life are things I can really use in a smartphone. But for the way Motorola has treated the UK, I think they can just do one. Can't be bothered and will actively avoid supporting Motorola in the future. I hope some of their ideas are taken up by proper phone makers though. Until then I will keep enjoying my Q10 and Nexus 7 combination.

Yeah, I'd be disappointed, too. If you're going to launch a product, you don't/shouldn't half-ass the rollout.

Maybe, Lenovo will guide them in the right direction.

But, yeah, you have a great combination of phone and tablet, right there. I wouldn't be in that much of a rush to switch. Wait it out. 2014 is already shaping up to be a crazy year, lol.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Uncertain times? You wouldn't be uncertain about the time if you had a NEW PEBBLE STEEL SMARTWATCH!!

This comment brought to you by your friends at Smartwatch Fans. Please use the link on the main Android Central page and feel free to comment in one of our many forums about smartwatches :)

I am sitting at the bar with my laptop (that is just how I roll boyZ) and this marvelous piece of drivel comes across my screen.

Bartender, I swear this is my first beer, never mind the insane laughter. Don't flag me before kickoff. okthanksbyebye.

You sir, win the internets today. I laughed way more than I should have.

Haha, nice man.

Posted from my "Gift from God" Note 3, my "God-Given" iPad Mini 2, or my "Risen" Samsung Chromebook.

Oh man, I can stop reading......best comment here today! And there was some good ones. Enjoy the game for those who are watching.

Posted via Android Central App

Can the moto x run cyanogenmod? Myself, I've completely given up on Samsung and it's android updates. The 4.3 update was horrible, it totally killed my battery life even though I have a 3100 mah battery on my Note 2. Don't worry moto x users, if Lenovo decides to kill the phone, I'm pretty sure rom makers will support it.

Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7105

do a factory reset and your battery should improve. That is not just a samsung issue, you see it everywhere after updates.

Actually I'm a member of the G+ note 2 community and the battery issues skyrocketed after the 4.3 update by Samsung. Trust me, I wiped the cache and did numerous factory resets and not one helped. My phone would also hard freeze at least once a week and require me to pull the battery. No more freezing issues running CM 11 android 4.4.2 nightly.

Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7105

Then I stand corrected.

Usually that solves the issues, and I really have not heard of this as a widespread issue.

I am sorry for your loss, the N2 seems to be a good phone (great at the time)

No worries man, I still use and love my Note 2. Amazing how Cyanogenmod made the phone even better. Can't wait for Android 5 Lollipop :-)

Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7105

Moto has been going for a while even before Google gave it a thought. Even long time companies still existing don't produce the same quality product they used to. So this is nothing new. And the Droid Line?......Let it go out of business....Serves Verzion right .....for being the anal retentive controlling company they are.

Really all I want to know is what's going to happen to the CEO of Moto...Where is Denis going? What's going to happen to him?

Someone tell me....,what's going on with Denis?

No. He's staying with Motorola. Lenovo is happy with the talent Motorola has, so they're keeping them.

Posted via Android Central App

No. He's staying with Motorola. Lenovo is happy with the talent Motorola has, so they're keeping them.

Posted via Android Central App

Lenovo will release phones under the Motorola name for a bit. A year later they'll throw in " A Lenovo Company" to associate Motorola with Lenovo to the regular folks. Then they'll do away with the Motorola name all together.

Like I said in the other thread, I think Motorola/Lenovo will join the ranks of Huawei and ZTE in churning out low to midrange phones for Virgin and Boost.

I hope I'm wrong since they could already do that without buying the Motorola name.

Even if they did nothing with the Moto G, if it stayed as it is and on the same software it would remain a good deal and choice at that price point until such times as a different company comes up with something competitive - probably quite a while!

The Moto X slightly less so as the Nexus5 is so close in cost and will definitely be totally supported for quite a while yet. However if there is anyone with an IQ above 70 at Lenovo they will have negotiated updates to Moto G and X for a set period of time as part of the purchase of Motorola.

The above gives Lenovo a window of time to get their act together but it isn't infinite, for me the real question is on their next phone, not on those already out.

"Have I mentioned lately how much I loathe anonymous sources?"

Good to know. I'm gonna switch from Sprint to T-Mobile's or AT&T's network soon because GSM, and based on this I'll likely use an MVNO like Straight Talk to try out AT&T's network and not AT&T proper.

Posted from my HTC EVO 4G LTE via Android Central App