Samsung DeX is the best product that nobody cares about

In 2017, Samsung showed off a way to turn your Galaxy S8 into a desktop computer. Called Samsung DeX (that stands for DEsktop eXperience — the erratic capitalization bothers me as much as it bothers you) it required a $150 docking station, ruined Samsung SideSync, and was generally written off as a gimmick that had been tried before and fabulously failed each and every time.

DeX started with a handicap in the form of a required $150 docking station.

Samsung didn't just can the idea, though. In fact, it addressed one of the largest pain points for consumers when, with the release of the Note 9 and Tab S4, changed how DeX operated. You no longer needed an expensive dedicated docking station — any USB to HDMI connection (opens in new tab) would work — and once hooked up and engaged your device acted as a touchpad for navigation and text entry. But still, no one paid attention to it.

Meanwhile, Google was busy turning Chrome OS into something that people wanted and Microsoft was busy building the Surface Go (opens in new tab), which runs Windows 10. Both are desktop operating systems (yes, they are used on laptops here but I don't get to coin the names of things) that are slim and light, run on inexpensive hardware, and can do everything your phone does with a more "comfortable" display and keyboard system. People seem to love these ultra-portable form factors.

So why does nobody care about Samsung DeX? Or rather, why do consumers seem to not care? Probably because Samsung doesn't seem to care.

The release of the Galaxy S10 was Dexless. DeX still works the same as it ever did, but the entire presentation went by without anyone mentioning it. But there was one thing that did happen that makes me think someone at the company is ready to charge forward with the idea and try to make it something we want: 12GB of RAM on the Galaxy S10+.

There is only one reason you would ever need 12GB of RAM on a Galaxy S10+: DeX.

You will never need to use 12GB of RAM on your S10+ out of the box. You just won't. I'm not saying that phones will never turn into a thing that need that much memory, but if they do, your S10+ will be old and in a drawer or landfill by then. So why in the &*#@ would Samsung put that much memory inside a phone?

The easy answer is because it can and it gives buyers something to whip out whenever a contest for bragging rights happens. That's certainly a possibility and a look at the comments section on any smartphone article shows that some people care more about specs than anything else. Samsung makes the RAM so it's pretty cost-effective to put oodles of it in its most expensive Galaxy phones.

But there is one reason you might want or need that much memory in your phone, and it's when you use it as a miniature PC case to run a desktop OS. Enter DeX and Linux on Galaxy (opens in new tab). DeX provides an easy way to turn the S10+ from a phone to a desktop. Linux on Galaxy provides a way to make it useful. All that's left is to make Linux on Galaxy something anyone can use. And that might just be coming.

Linux has been around forever. It's also always been a lot more difficult to use than Windows or Apple's macOS because of the available software and how it is installed. Most companies don't build their software to work with Linux, and since Linux can be built in so many different configurations, installing programs means checking to see if a long list of pre-requisite software is installed and configured. Even for the experienced user, it can be a pain.

That might be changing now that Google and Microsoft are interested in using Linux to bolster desktop productivity. You can now use the Linux command line (and subsequently run Linux applications through it) on Microsoft Windows, and Chromebooks now have native support for Linux applications. Because of its open-source nature, Linux can be built by companies who want to use it to make money just as easily as it can be built by companies that just love its freedom. See Red Hat and Oracle if you need further proof.

More: How to install Linux apps on your Chromebook

I think Samsung is waiting to see what Microsoft and/or Google can do with Linux. If either can find a way to make it a thing you want to use, then bam, Linux on Galaxy is now a thing and you can just buy a cheap cable to allow your Galaxy S10+ to do all the cool things. Why buy a Windows ARM tablet or a Chromebook when you can just use the phone you already have? The Galaxy S10+ was already the best phone you can buy and now it's even better. iWhat?

Maybe I'm wrong and the S10+ has a 12GB RAM option just for the higher margins, and DeX is only still there because nobody at Samsung can figure out how to remove it. It wouldn't be the first time I've overreached when trying to figure out why these companies do the things they all do. People have been saying, "This is the year for Linux on the desktop to go big" for years and they have always been wrong.

Or maybe I'm not wrong. In either case, DeX is still a pretty cool thing and if you have a Galaxy S8 or newer, you really need to check it out at least once.

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Jerry Hildenbrand
Senior Editor — Google Ecosystem

Jerry is an amateur woodworker and struggling shade tree mechanic. There's nothing he can't take apart, but many things he can't reassemble. You'll find him writing and speaking his loud opinion on Android Central and occasionally on Twitter.

  • I felt this way about continuum. I think what we are still missing is a seamless experience and a lower price. The HP Lapdock was amazing but insanely priced for a machine that was honestly less convenient than just carrying a similarly priced windows machine. I had to carry the dock cable and if I wanted to use the computer, I had to plug into my phone, which meant some setup and 3 different pieces. I think if we can get to a place where the companion device either integrates (eg Razer's concept) the phone or can do everything wirelessly and doesn't cost close to the price of a Chromebook/Cloudbook or other cheap desktop, we'll be lots closer.
  • Yeah I am with you on this I use dex on my phone as I have my laptop doing hard tasks via rdp and then update my teams social media, website ect via dex. Its great for the little things but I don't ever see it replacing the pc. Thay said if we could get the devices like the HP phone had for a low price more people may loom at it.
  • Been looking into how I can do a DeX like thing with my OnePlus 6T. I do not understand why ALL smartphones don't include a #DesktopMode. Especially with #5G coming out. With 5G I'm guessing many will do away with home broadband (it'll be redundant/an extra bill). So with Gbps internet and plenty of CPU and RAM, we obviously have a desktop in our pockets. Hope this becomes a thing very soon. 👍
  • i don't think the number of people that will do away with broadband will be that high. Most unlimited plans still cap you at a certain point. If you use Netflix at home on a regular basis, you'll easily blow all those caps out of the water. In any case, the problem is the platform. It's not just the smartphone implementing desktopmode. The apps need to make sense in that environment and that requires developers to be on board. If MS had solved its developer dilemma, then we'd likely all be on Windows phones now instead of Android. They had solved the platform problem with their UWP, just couldn't get enough developer buy-in (for a variety of reasons). But in regards to desktop on a phone, their experience was by far the best, just very limited in scope. Not only did they not have a lot of apps, it was a smaller portion of those that even fully supported Continuum. But the ones that did were pretty great. I was using my phone a lot more often than my laptop cause I could just dock it at home instead of booting up my laptop. But once I needed something that wasn't on my phone, the dream was quickly broken.
  • Home broadband isn't going away anytime soon. Data caps need to go away first or at least exceed that which is used by both residential and mobile combined. Not to mention families, does this really on one individual to be home at all times for everyone to use the data plan or if shared, are the media sources only going to be streaming services that are also shared? Too many scenarios where this will not work. Would be perfect for an individual though.
  • Can you use DeX on the S8 without the DeX docking station or is that only for S9 and above? Because I would love to try it.
  • For S8 you need the docking station. For S9 with android P, you just need HDMI to USB-C cable.
  • This is incorrect..... I am typing this response on an S8 plugged into a 3rd party adapter for Samsung Dex on my monitor.
  • If you have the one ui update only cable needed
  • Yes. In One UI (Pie) U just need a USB C to HDMI cable, I have one, it works pretty well tbh
  • I'm running it off S8 plus using this: Also, aside from the DeX desktop I often use it and Citrix workspace app to access my work VDI.
  • I think after the Android Pie update, it'll work with just an HDMI adapter, but how much it will drain your battery is something you'll have to see for yourself. I've run my DeX pad with an external battery the same size as the DeX pad, it works well and lasts for hours. The bottleneck is the monitor. If they ever produce the Mirabook, DeX will be as good in a coffee shop as in a hotel room.
  • Played around with Huawei wireless projection. Similar to Dex but no cord or dock needed. It was fun but just like the Dex, its a gimmick.
  • I would use it way more if I could do it using a wire because I have 0 devices that I can do wireless projection to.
  • You can probably still use a cord
  • People throw out "gimmick" too much. It certainly has a use, even if it's not fully mature. Phones are getting so perfume now that I can imagine just ducking in at work, at home, at a hotel, etc. That not a gimmick.
  • Even if it has a good use or not, if a huge majority of people don't use it then it's a gimmick.
  • Trust me I've tried both Huawei and Samsung Desktop modes, Huawei's truly is a Gimmick, Samsung DeX is by far not a Gimmick!
  • Congratulations, you've just managed to define "gimmick" in a way that literally EVERY innovation that a phone maker introduces is a "gimmick." Back when the iPhone was introduced, using your definition, a smartphone was a "gimmick."
  • Right? People love to throw out that word when they personally don't use a feature.
  • That's not the definition of a gimmick.
  • Not a gimmick. I use the Huawei system and no longer take a laptop pc when traveling. To be fair, I do travel with a Lenovo Yoga Book for 'emergencies' when no screen is available but usually the Yoga Book functions as a tablet. I am looking at moving my work system over to EMUI using TeamViewer to access a server for my heavy duty work. The choke point there is simply my preference for two monitor operation. I think that the smartphone desktop experience paradigm will become significant as individuals and businesses come to understand the benefits.
  • Your spot on and I said this when moto 1st came out with there but I also said it was not ready. I used continuum on my Lumia 950xl and I could then see the start of this but with microsoft dropping windows phone it kind of left a space for someone to pickup. I now use dex on my TV to do tasks like update my website, fb and edit word and excel documents ect but use my pc for bigger things and connect to it via rdp on my dex and it works great. We need more apps to support full screen on dex and a real network file explorer to and i do think Samsung could be onto something.
  • Why is it a gimmick?
  • I have the original $150 Dex station, that I use with my Note 8. It is so damn convenient for replying to work emails, joining evening conference calls, etc that I am surprised more people have not adopted the Dex approach. I moved my data to the cloud so that I have access from any of my devices - phone, tablet and PCs simply because of my use of Dex. My one Major complaint is with Audible! I listen to audiobooks constantly while I work and this is one essential app that does not work with Dex. Other than this I can open PowerPoint presos, Excel files and Word files with minimal or no limitations. With the recent update to Android Pie I have not tried the non-Dex station method but I will. I carry a USB C to HDMI/VGA adapter and have plenty of Bluetooth keyboards that this could be a travel option.
  • I recently used Dex and my S9+ in a demo booth at one of my company client events. I had to go to dinner immediately after the demo, so I didn't want to bring a big bag with my laptop and gear with me. The event provided me with a monitor, HDMI cable, USB mouse and keyboard. All I brought was my phone and a USBC to HDMI dongle that also has USB A ports where I could plug in the USB receiver for the mouse/keyboard. I connected to my work VPN on the phone, used Chrome on Dex to do my whole demo.
    When I was done, just grabbed my phone, put my dongle in my suit pocket, and went to dinner.
  • I feel strongly about this too. Even with 8gb of ram I'm so happy. People need to try Dex since it's a game changer! I hope Samsung never leaves this project
  • I care about and use DeX everyday for school and work.
  • 'Does nobody really want to carry a desktop PC in their pocket?' The problem is, android (and Chrome) is not desktop.
  • Tell that to my kids who use their phones for everything even though they received a Chromebook from their schools. The only time they open the Chromebooks is at school. It is amazing how this generation has gotten used to a small screen.
  • That won't last as they age. Everyone's eyes deteriorate as they get older. I do things on my phone, but if I'm doing a lot of browsing I go to my laptop. Much easier on the eyes without having to wear reading glasses.
  • I was using Dex for a week or two. Work flow was...difficult...but adaptable. I still need a PC for some of my work, but it comes and goes. Having a Note 8, I want to be able to write on my screen. Can't do that when in Dex unless I switch to mirror or disconnect. Waiting to see what the Note 10 does for Dex!
  • Interesting theory, Jerry!
  • I love the idea of dex, but it's still not super elegant, yet. Even if all you need is a USB to HDMI cable, for good I/O you still have to have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, as well as a monitor. I actually really wish samsung made a lapdock style device for DEX. That would be something I actually use.
  • This works with the Note9 and S9 (once updated to Android 9). I suspect it will work with the S10 too.
  • Samsung's Tablets are also good. As a company they do more than most to offer fully featured solutions.
  • Samsung please do not even think about removing DeX. I use it almost every day and it is essential to my whole existence in this world. Well almost.
    I use it with a simple cable on my Note 9. My productivity has increased significantly and I don't carry my laptop every time to meetings.
    And yes I have been bragging about it and wowing my colleagues. Please don't take away my bragging rights.
  • I like the idea, but I'm not going to buy a monitor to test it out. My Surface Pro 6 is really portable, so I can take it most anywhere.
  • Got a TV with an HDMI input?
  • A really big one in my living room. I see your point.
  • Ever tried DEX with any VDI solutions like Horizon or Citrix? Accessing a remote desktop on a smartphone is not elegant but when you connect the same phone to a monitor and run in DeX mode, it opens up a lot of possibilities. Imagine, a doctor/Nurse carrying a phone and docking it to a station next to the patient's bedroom access windows apps. A police officer using the same device in the field, in car a d at the station.
  • I have been using Linux on Dex now for almost 2 months and I love it. I am a long time Ubuntu user but my laptop had some hard disk problems and I need to reinstall it... since I had the option of using Linux on Dex I have been just too lazy to get to it... and now don't see the need... So I partitioned 250gb for Ubuntu and spent the time necessary to get to know and personalized it to my taste... 250 GB of space a 8 GB of RAM is decent for an ultra-portable laptop, and this is more convenient and even more portable... I just keep 2 Dex docks one at work and one next to my TV at home...
    Linux on Dex is now my exclusive desktop operating system for work and everything. it's still very much on beta and it shows, but it's very usable. Having a full office app like Libre Office is the most important part for me and most of the apps that I need I have installed, even inkscape... Having Android apps and Linux apps on the same screen and going back and forth from one to the other is exactly what I want from a desktop experience now... my biggest complaint is that the copy paste from Android to Ubuntu and back it's kind of hit or miss, sometimes it works perfectly some very few times it just doesn't... But again it's in beta... I hope they can iron out those little things because I love my note 9. Having it be cell phone and desktop computer in one is the only way to justify the stratospheric prices these beasts phones are going for...
  • I have always liked the idea of having a computer I can fit in my pocket. Years back I had Palm computers, Psion computers and now have a Note 8 which I got mainly for DeX. The only apps I really need to use a computer for are office apps. The Hancomm office suite that comes with the Note 8 satisfy all my needs. Everything else I can do on a phone. There is a guy on YouTube called MrP who does everything on DeX and if you are considering trying DeX you should watch his videos.
  • Avid Dex user here and Dex was one of the main reasons I purchased the S8+ when it was released. The issue that Samsung is having with Dex is that the Dex experience is suited for a professional/enterprise environment or prosumer at worse while smartphones are a consumer device. Dex isn't best suited for gaming, Netflix or streaming videos but getting work done be it business or school is where Dex thrives. Don't get me wrong I'm not some road warrior business mogul. I'm just a guy finding his way through life. However, as someone who has used Dex as their only PC desktop experience for more 20 days straight on numerous occasions, I never had any issues with Dex when using it for productivity. During our annual summer vacation trip which took us to the west and east coast parts of the country, I was able to keep up with my classes be it papers, virtual lab work, and exams with nothing more than my Note 8, folding keyboard, HDMI cable and whatever monitor solution I had available. Often it was a TV in my hotel room or a monitor in the lobby of the hotel. A freelance gig that sent me to Qatar and for 45 days my PC Desktop experience was through Dex and again no problems. I am not a fan pulling out my Surface Pro at every security checkpoint.  So all travel domestic or international is computer free for me. Coupled with my 50 days of work in Kuwait on two occasions with Dex being my only PC Desktop experience I am very confident in Dex. The few issues that I had stemmed from the limitations of Android than Dex itself. I purchased a Note 9 because of the ability to use Dex without the Dex Station or Pad which gives you access to your phone while using Dex. Continuum by Microsoft had all the markings to be good but when Windows Phone was already on its deathbed when it was released, and it's hard to get companies to invest into something when it's going to be obsolete before they implement it. Speaking of continuum, the HP Elite X3 lapdock can be used with a Dex enabled phone to provide one with a Dex Experience on a portable device. With the way HP lapdock is selling on eBay, you would think Samsung would make one of their own. And if Samsung wants Dex to catch on in the consumer market, they do something like that. Maybe a Dex package that comes with game controller and 40,000 Fortnite credits or something. Other than that I can't see Samsung making inroads with Dex in the consumer market for it doesn't do the things most consumers want very well. It's okay for gaming. Not useful for selfies, stickers, and AR. Instagram and Snapchat don't look good on large screens but for getting work done, freeing one dragging a notebook PC everywhere Dex shines brightly.
  • I agree whole heartedly.
  • The day DeX will be once more compatible with my Microsoft Display Dock, I will reuse my Samsung Galaxy S8 to try it out... Unless that, I'm perfectly well by using smartphones LG is giving me as an ambassador 👌
  • I love using Dex! I am playing with where to use it the most when connected to a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but I would love it if Samsung came out with a lap dock to use it in. I've been tempted to buy HP's lap dock, but that thing is expensive and would prefer one specific to my phone. 😁
  • They did make a prototype, but decided not to produce it. The Mirabook can do what you ask, but it's doubtful that it'll ever be produced.
  • I've used Dex with my Galaxy S9+, Note 8 and now my Note 9. It's great but doesn't behave like a Windows PC as much as Windows 10 Mobile' Continuum due to Android apps not being written to perform well with a keyboard and mouse where's Continuum's UWP apps are written to consider a Windows desktop, mouse and keyboard driven, legacy environment. DeX would really be the next big thing if it launched Windows on Arm when docked and kept Android when undocked. That would be huge! That is what I am looking forward to. The masses of RAM and storage, Windows on Arm runs on the same processors and Samsung and Microsoft's existing partnership, hopefully it is only a matter of time. Windows on Arm from a Galaxy smartphone would be a HUGE win for consumers and business and would solidify having one device that is every device!
  • Yes, that may be very well the future. We already have the processing power for even intensive programs like Adobe Premiere and Photoshop in our hands, so that is the next logical evolution. When Apple moves to ARM, the entire industry will too and as thus, more and more professional applications for ARM devices will release even on Windows.
  • The problem with these experiments is they only appeal to enthusiasts. Those people who try it because they can. To use Dex you need(ed) a relatively expensive dock, and a keyboard mouse and monitor. Most normal folks that have a keyboard mouse and monitor have them hooked up to a PC, so what's the point of Dex. MSs continuum suffered from the same issue. You could run Continuum over Miracast, but most would have needed to buy a Miracast dongle. The continuum dock also needed the keyboard mouse and monitor. The LapDock was cool, but cost as much as a laptop with specs better than you would have with the phone solution. There was actually a Miracast receiver app for Windows, so you could Continuum your Lumia to your Surface, but what's the point of that? Both concepts needed consumers to accept that they wanted to change from something they had that worked, to something that didn't yet work as well. I think some of the newer generations may be more accepting. Many already can do 90% of what they need to do on a phone. Getting those folks to consider a keyboard mouse and monitor they don't already have to create a different UI for their primary device might fly. As long as the vendors haven't given up on it. MS has with the death of Windows phone.
  • Doesn't it always start with enthusiasts? If they are using and showing use scenarios then the manufacturers can focus on improving those experienced and the consumers will follow.
  • There is even a chart for this.
  • Sure, but you do need enough adoption to make further investigation, updates, R&D seem worthwhile.
  • I can honestly say that DeX can replace the traditional desktop experience provided by Microsoft, Apple or Google... As long as no proprietary corporate software is needed. I have a Note 8 with the original DeX dock and I like using it more than I like using any of the primary providers of desktop UIs. It's a super seamless experience for the everyday user. If you haven't yet tried it but have the capability of doing so, please give it a shot. Especially if you think it's a gimmick. I'm almost certain that the experience will change the majority of those people's minds.
  • I bought the DeX station shortly after getting an S8+. The issue I saw with it right off is that many apps I use on a regular basis dont work well with it. For example Netflix and VUDU.
  • Netflix does work if you enable DeX Labs.
  • Dex works surprisingly well. One of the keys is to use the Samsung apps, particularly mail and browser. They work far better than chrome and gmail. I have a unique use case where my work setup is all in VMWare. In Dex, I fire up the vmware client, and now I'm on my work desktop. So, I could literally use just my phone and a monitor/kb/mouse for work. Imo, Samsung should push Dex more. They're often offering selectable freebies with their phone launches. Why not offer a choice of usb-c dock / kb mouse combo / monitor? You can literally buy this on Amazon for well under $200 if you do it right, and if you get a monitor with built in speakers, you get speakers too. Maybe this would get people without this stuff to give it a try.
  • Better yet get the monitor from Offerup or Craigslist. I bought both of my 24" monitors off Craigslist & Offerup, one was $60 and the other $30.
  •'s kind of hard to trust the technical knowledge of anyone who describes Windows 10 as a "thin and light" operating system.
  • Ha ha ha
  • I use dex constantly for school,work, and play. I hope they continue to bring this support to samsung phones. It is very easy to hook up and literally is a desktop in your pocket.
  • The one major thing keeping me from using Dex more often is the lack of multi-monitor support. Both at home and at our shared space cubicles at the office, there are multi-monitor setups. Using Dex, I get only one of those and find it INCREDIBLY limiting. I'm hoping they add this to a future iteration.
  • Yeah, as someone that has 3 screens at work and actually has to use them all, the single screen thing is pretty much this: *triggers "Price is Right" fail horn sound*
  • I think that's an Android limitation -which may be removed when Google integrates a desktop mode into Android Q. As a matter of fact, if Google's implementation is good enough, Samsung may just abandon DeX and leave it to Google to develop and refine desktop mode for Android.
  • I'm a fan of DeX and I'm hopeful development continues. Samsung could be doing a much better job of promoting it and educating people on how to best use it. Thank God for some of the DeX helpers available on YouTube. And I still freak people out with Samsung Pay. "We don't do Apple Pay" is the comment I get just before I blow their mind. I just smile and say "I don't do Apple Pay either." Then I say "it's actually Samsung Pay." Samsung has some great technology, but they need better marketing and support.
  • I love freaking people out with Samsung Pay. I'm surprised that so many retailers still don't know about it. Hasn't it been out for at least 5 years now?
  • Yep you are wrong 😃 "Maybe I'm wrong and the S10+ has a 12GB RAM option just for the higher margins, and DeX is only still there because nobody at Samsung can figure out how to remove it."
  • I had Continuum on my later Windows phones then DeX on my Note 8 and now Desktop Mode on my Huawei Mate 10 Pro which goes one better by having a completely wireless option now but other than a week or so when they were new, the novelty soon wore off and you forget they're even there til a post like this comes up. Sure there's a small minority of people who get real world usage from it but I'd bet the vast majority either don't know it's even there or they never got past the novelty period either
  • With Huawei doing it as well, lets say this becomes a feature of Android. As a "standard" this could be even more fun. No need for libraries, air ports, cafés to have dedicated computers to support and maintain. The need a screen and a bluetooth mouse/keyboard solution. Then you can just walk in, hook up your phone and you have a desktop to work from. Old phone booths are already turning to wi-fi hotspots, with this they are your next office =)
  • I got the original $150 DeX Station for my Note 8. When I upgraded to the Note 9 I was beyond frustrated when I found out it was not compatible. I think that was a total d*ck move by Samsung. Of course, then they come out with a new model that is cheaper with better compatibility but the last thing I want to do is shell out more money for almost the same product that I'll hardly use. I ended up giving mine to my dad since he holds on to phones for several years before upgrading.
  • Thanks for the YouTube rec
  • DeX isn't a gimmick. It's actually very useful. On a recent trip I didn't have room to lug a full computer so I used DeX. The problem is that a number of applications don't recognize that the phone is actually in a larger screen size when you plug it into a monitor. So what I did was RDP into an AWS machine and from there connected to the machines I needed to work on. I think it has great potential for disaster preparedness. It's great to have multiple hot sites, but if people can't access them because they weren't lugging around a laptop, it still doesn't do much good. With DeX, you just need to find a monitor to plug into. I also use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with DeX to create a full desktop experience.
  • One of the reasons why nobody cares about is because the lack of a lapdock or a tablet dock. To use Dex at home doesn't make that much sense, it will help the folks that don't have a computer but spare from that if you have a computer you will only use Dex because you can. When I am on the go I (and probably a lot of professionals out there) would love to have a lapdock, something that you pull from your bag, you put your phone and bang you have your computer.. the phone slot could even be the trackpad since your phone would work as a teacher in Dex mode. I think it's basic, just don't understand why they don't do it.
  • Mirabook was the great hope there, but it may never be produced.
  • I received a Dex docking station for free with my Note 8. The first Note 8 that I received was DOA, and since Samsung doesn't have an exchange process I had to return the phone and the free Dex and buy a new phone, with no Dex because the promo had expired. I didn't even fight them on it, because who cares about Dex. It's a neat gimmick, but not even close to being able to replace my laptop yet.
  • Having 12 GB RAM is not needed though, even when considering a Desktop experience. My Desktop PC has 4 GB RAM and can everything run just fine even when heavy multitasking. Android just uses more RAM for itself which should be optimized.
  • I use DeX on a regular basis. I leverage a dock so that I can connect a keyboard and mouse. I stream video content, browse web sites, and access a security application for work. As DeX evolves I can see it becoming a full desktop replacement. Samsung's DeX product and Google's work with Chrome OS and Fuchsia portends a future where your phone is your only computer. I would like to see this evolution.
  • I'm actually using my Note 8 as my primary computer (as I type this) and have ditched my Windows PC for the most part. Once you start using Android and Dex for any length of time, Windows seems like a dinosaur. I will say that Dex is not fully baked (polished) and to make matters worse, it seems none of the OS's shortcomings are being fixed or upgraded. I can't recall any updates being made or bugs being fixed. I wish I could be the project manager of this product. Many of the shortcomings could be easily fixed. It just needs a little TLC. If Steve Jobs test drove this product as is, heads would probably roll - or, at a minimum, he would have glued the programmers to their chairs until it was fully polished. It has so much potential and it is revolutionary. I'm guessing those in charge of it don't use it and/or not passionate about it. Frustrating.
  • Dex is way cool and works great. I am using the Note 9. I also have the Surface Go. I use a Satechi dongle and Anker charger with Power Delivery to charge both and to connect them to my 40" 4K monitor. Dex can do almost anything the Surface Go can do. If you remote into a PC with Dex, you can do everything a PC can do. I also have an LGV20 which can be hooked up to my monitor with the same dongle. However, everything on the monitor is huge so it's really not much use except when using remote desktop to a PC. With Dex I can get a lot of work done. Though I love Dex, I don't like the Note 9 form factor. It's too skinny and I absolutely hate the curved screen it's also heavy and has no replaceable battery.
  • I hook a cable to a monitor, place my note 9 on a wireless charging pad, and unfold my bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo and get some work done. It's super easy and works well. I do wish Samsung would throw a few more resources into optimizing the experience and bug fixing but otherwise it's great.
  • I recently gave my chromebook to my eldest for school and purchased a $50 dex docking station for my note. Best decision ever. Dex is a viable next generation application of mobile devices and samsung has done the best job to date on execution. They just need to keep innovating it. Make the docking station a wireless similar to a charging pad etc. Also enable more applications for usage. Dex is one of the differentiators for me at least, which is why i would always look at samsung when i am in the market for a device (specifically the note series). No other manufacturers are playing in this space as effectively.
  • I've used DeX. I think its pretty amazing, but I feel that the concept can be better utilized on making the device run Windows or ChromeOS. But for what it is, it's an amazing tool.
  • I am a construction project manager and I have been using Dex on both my S8+ (previously) and now my Note 9 for quite some time.
    I read this Android Central article on Flipboard using Dex. After signing up and retrieving an email signup link in Yahoo I drafted this response by dictating in one of my text editors and posted, all in Dex.
    I have not used my Apple laptop for a couple of years now as Dex is more than good enough for most things. My only reservation is it cannot run AutoCAD/SketchUp/MSProject which I occasionally use but I have workarounds.
    One guy said that the Note 9 is not compatible with the Dex dock but I can assure you it is. I am using it right now. I like the extra USB ports it gives. I run Dex in three different locations in two offices and one home office. I simply carry my phone around with me do my work wherever I am. When I travel I bring a small Samsung HDMI cable and a portable Bluetooth keyboard which is usually good enough for most situations.
    From what I have read most people are not really interested in pursuing Dex fully because they are invested in their laptops. I have no problem with that as long as Samsung continue to support Dex (which I think they will) as I love it. The history of the computer era has been miniaturization. Dex just happens to be another iteration of that trend. The fact that Huawei has now followed suit says alot I think.
    By the way the Note 9 also happens to be a great smartphone as well.
    For any iPhone fanboys I also have an XR which is a great smartphone as well but I use it for private stuff as it is not really suitable for work, trust me.
  • The problem is that I cannot rely on having a Monitor, Keyboard, and Mouse available when I need to travel. So I still have to bring a laptop, which with Windows 10 is more powerful than DEX. If DEX had a laptop dock, say $300, 14inch 3/2 display, keyboard, trackpad, battery, usb hub, then I could see it being a lot more usable. But for now there is just not a compelling use case.
  • Linux on DeX would be a good selling point to promote the S10, not just a "oh by the way" type of feature. I mean, I pre-ordered the S10 anyway, but I travel constantly for work. So if I knew I could plug my S10 into a hotel tv and got Ubuntu, I would be one of the people with the March 8th delivery date instead of the 22nd, AND I would have spent more money and got an upgraded ceramic 12gb\1tb model instead. It was hard to justify spending the extra $600 otherwise. Linux on DeX needs to hurry TF UP regardless, but I have a feeling it's gonna end up being a Note 10 feature first
  • I've been using a phone as a desktop for years, starting way back with the HTC M8. There are a few software limitations of course, but it was a decent experience even back then. Problem I'm having right now is that all the screen rotation apps to force landscape mode don't work with my current phone, but I'm still looking.
  • If it fits, yes!
  • I've been using DeX quite a bit lately. And actually it's pretty good for productivity. The Office apps work well. The Samsung Internet browser behaves wuite nicely. Kinemaster also works well, but it can't handle 4K content, which is a shame since my S9+ is capable of generating it. All in all DeX is quite adequate for getting work done in a hotel room. I think the main reason most users don't seem to care about DeX is that they know about it and how easy and reliably it connects and disconnects.
  • DEX is a gimmick. At my desk, I have a laptop with an external display attached. It has an i7 CPU, 32GB RAM, 260GB NVMe System Drive and 500GB SATA3 SSD Data Drive (with external USB3 HDD for bulk stuff), with a 4GB GPU. It doesn't overheat or throttle. I have a 9 Button Programmable Logitech Gaming Mouse and 25+ Button Razer Programmable Tartarus hooked up to it, and a full size keyboard - among other things. There is nothing the Note 9 does that my computer doesn't embarrass it on, other than cellular connectivity - which is a wash cause I have a 500Mbps WiFi connection on my PC. Phones are for "on the go." If I'm going to carry around all of these extra cables, I mind as well just take my laptop with me. I'm not a woman, so I'm not just stuffing this stuff in a purse or handbag. The high price of the DEX Dock was a killer. It completely killed any potential momentum the product could have had, just like Microsoft's Continuum Dock, Motorola's Lapdock, etc. No one is going to buy a $1,000+ phone to use like a laptop, when they can just get a mid-range phone for ~$300 - which are PERFECTLY usable smart devices - and then just use that extra money to buy a Windows Laptop, MacBook Air/Pro, or something considerably more powerful than a smartphone, and more suitable to professional workflows and running business applications. It's a gimmick, because it's a solution in search of a problem. These things always have been. Until companies can figure out the thermals and load a useful computing platforms on these devices for "Continuum/DEX" use, this will continue to be the case. Additionally, the software on these phones are not well supported. They have too short a lifecycle. I bought a mid-range laptop in 2013 that is still running today. Quad Core, 8GB RAM, USB3, HDMI, SD Card Slot, etc. It's running the very latest of Windows 10, and it runs the latest version of desktop applications with very good performance. In 2 years, your phone will be on the backburner. It takes forever to update these things. Yea, Linux on Galaxy may come... but what happens when new applications require an updated Linux distro, but Samsung has failed to keep the implementation on their Galaxy Phones up to date? What will you do, then? Buy a new $1,000 phone to update the Linux OS? Hack it in? I am not going to force smartphone planned obsolescence into my business. These phone are for recording media (photos/videos), accessing services on the go, and … making/receiving calls and text messages, voice mail, etc. I am not going to go from a 5+ year PC upgrade cycle to a 2-3 year forced upgrade cycle by replacing a laptop with a phone. That's a raw deal in almost every way imaginable. I feel like people are wanting this more than they are thinking it through. For most people, it makes literally no sense to care about this, or even want it. It's not even a feature that I ever thought about when I bought the phone. I got the phone for the 128GB Storage, so I didn't have to worry about SD Cards, and the S Pen for telestrating video in analysis apps (literally the only time I use it). But I'm giving that up to jump back to the iPhone... Cause the update lag and app quality disparity (in iOS' favor) is unbearable to me. What Samsung needs to do, is partner with Microsoft and integrate Microsoft Account and data synching into One UI, so that Windows users can use a Galaxy device much like macOS users use the iPhone. This Continuum/Handoff is what is really needed, not turning a phone into a PC. What person has a $800-1,300 smartphone, but doesn't have at least a mid-range laptop PC? No, I don't want a desktop PC in my pocket. I want a phone that works well in tandem with my PC without having to bloat it up with all manner of 3rd party applications and services - seamlessly (see Apple ecosystem). Additionally, developers who develop desktop apps aren't going to embrace this, as people do not like paying reasonable prices for mobile apps. Anything that installs on a Note 9/S10 is going to be deemed a mobile app, and people will expect it for $2.99 when the equivalent desktop app retails for - sometimes - hundreds of dollars... That, or you'll be stuck with yet another subscription. The expectation of free or cheap completely undercuts any momentum these gimmicks can possibly generate. This is a big problem with Windows UWP, and why they had to develop Centennial. No one is going to develop a UWP version of their $50 app only to sell it for $3, simply because users aren't going to pay proper price for what they consider as a "tablet app."
  • you're missing out that many big businesses already have a 2-3 PC lifecycle. Add a 2-3 year mobile phone lifecycle into that and suddenly an accountant somewhere is gonna say, "hey, we could just buy one device instead of two." Will it work for all businesses? Absolutely not. Does everyone need the amount of power you have in your laptop? Absolutely not. I'd say a majority of people don't need nearly that much. It's a gimmick to anyone who has a niche case that isn't solved by the implementation. But if you work in Word, Excel, and Outlook all the time at work, there's no reason this wouldn't be a viable option. Suddenly you cost less as an employee *and* you can access your work much more easily no matter where you are. That's a huge solution to a very real cost in business.
  • I've been doing this for years using Linux Deploy (app)
    the biggest con with that is performance. Linux on Dex would be so much faster.
    HOWEVER that's where Remote Desktop solves that one.
    The biggest missing factor for using Dex Linux is, when on the go, you can't checkout you Linux stuff without Dex mode.
    With Linux Deploy, you can have best of all worlds. You can access your desktop.
    it anytime.
  • i feel like VNC and/or SSH kinda make all of this a moot point as long as your home machine is available over the internet by some fashion. I'd honestly rather see a DeX version of those JuiceSSH, AdminHands, and a decent VNC application that's DeX compatible.
  • I absolutely love the idea of dropping my phone into a dock at home or the office to continue my productivity on a fully functional desktop operating system. But, in the current state of mobile battery lifecycle... I just don't see it being a feature that will take off in the general population. Sure, the battery can charge while the device is docked, but at what cost? Long-term battery health is more rapidly depleted with the frequency of partial and quick charges. Which means that the more often I dock my phone at 80% to use the desktop mode, the sooner I suffer a battery life that will not get me through a full day of being on the go. The mobile bottleneck, without a doubt, is battery technology. That is where mobile device manufacturers should be spending their R&D budgets. I really want this feature to gain traction with consumers, but not at the cost of mobility.
  • Battery life isn't depleted more frequently with small charges. This condition was fixed awhile ago. As it stands, a battery can basically withstand 'x' number of full charge/discharge cycles before it starts noticeably holding less of a charge. If you disc