Samsung must think foldables are for suckers
Don't pay what Samsung is asking or they will keep asking that much.
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Samsung spent a few million dollars to show some of its new products this week. It was a typical tech event with executives telling us how great the new stuff is going to be, how much we're going to love it, and why the company is important enough for you to spend an hour listening. What it didn't tell you is that the company thinks you're a sucker.
That's the first thing I thought when the dust settled because Samsung thinks you'll spend nearly two thousand dollars on a phone, and it's right. At least some of us will. I won't, and neither should you.
I'm not going to tell you that you shouldn't pay more money for a phone that folds in half or how you should spend your money in general. Everyone spends money on things they don't need, including me. I am telling you that you shouldn't be buying your folding phone from Samsung because if you do nothing is going to change. Especially the pricing.
I'm not really faulting the company for adding $100 to the price. Everything is more expensive, and the 5% bump should have been expected. It just happens to be 5% on a price that was too high to begin with.
Analysts and tech writers have been saying how foldables will become more accessible and less expensive for the past five years or so. I can't find anywhere that Samsung actually said it's definitely happening, but the company happily goes along with the idea and has never stepped up and said it's not going to happen. Samsung has gone so far as to say that it's trying to make it happen, but it just hasn't done it.
I get that making a fancy hinge and a glass-plastic bonded screen that folds in half will add to the costs, but look at what other companies are doing. Do you really think that Samsung doesn't have a stronger supply chain or better access to materials than OnePlus? Or Google? Or Honor? Of course it does, if for no other reason than many of the components come directly from Samsung itself. Why are Samsung's foldables as expensive — or more expensive — than what other companies offer?
Maybe every single piece inside of a Z Fold 6 is better than anything a competitor is offering. Or maybe Samsung knows it can charge whatever it likes because the people who were going to buy one will buy it regardless of the price. This, I think, is what Samsung is counting on.
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Samsung knows almost nobody buys foldable phones and has even admitted that "most" of the people who do buy one are people who already have one. The company also knows that it no longer sells the lion's share of folding phones. But does it care?
One way to gain market share is to streamline manufacturing and sell cheaper phones. A 10% profit margin on millions more products is as lucrative as higher margins on things that aren't selling. This would fit right in with Samsung's message that everyone should want a foldable because they are cool, and it's exactly how Samsung beats out Apple to sell the most smartphones year after year. Offer more, sell it for less, and people will buy it.
An alternative plan is to not give a damn about market share, charge as much as you can, and depend on those repeat customers who you think are going to buy your overpriced products anyway. And yes, people who will buy a new Z Fold, no matter the price, do exist. Too many of them, in fact.
The only thing we can do as consumers is to not buy overpriced products; to stop being a sucker. If enough people vote with their wallets, we'll get more for our money.
I know I'm not going to change anyone's mind by writing this. If you think Samsung is charging too much for a Fold 6, you don't need me to tell you. On the flip side, if you were going to buy one anyway, you'll think I'm foolish and might even take the time to let me know.
I do know I'm no sucker and won't let Samsung treat me like one.
Jerry is an amateur woodworker and struggling shade tree mechanic. There's nothing he can't take apart, but many things he can't reassemble. You'll find him writing and speaking his loud opinion on Android Central and occasionally on Threads.
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notforhire the pricing on the Fold appears to be akin to the Apple Tax everyone knows and loves. as for the cam shaft you purchased, I'd like to see the car it's going in 😉Reply -
BerryBubbles
👍(Quoted from Jerry's article)
Everything is more expensive, and the 5% bump should have been expected. It just happens to be 5% on a price that was too high to begin with.
That pretty well sums it up to me. -
Shawn Hensley I love folding phones and have used one for a few years, it has completely replaced my tablet, but while other companies have been making better folding phones and innovating, Samsung has been coasting and yes suckering their best customers. If OnePlus, Honor, Huawei, Vivo, etc can put high end cameras and make their phones cheaper why can't Samsung? Why have they put the same low end cameras on the Fold for 3 years? I tried a OnePlus Open earlier this year, which was over $500 cheaper (on sale) than my Z Fold 5 and realized I was suckered, it blew away the Z Fold 5 in every way. Faster, lighter, longer battery, and crazy better cameras, almost no crease. Then the Z Fold 6 comes out, same cameras, same battery, slightly better screens. No thank you.Reply -
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The Fold phones were initially designed more for productivity in mind; therefore, the camera was a bit of an afterthought. At the time the first Fold was released, it was niche and the only other real competitors in the foldable market were OnePlus (or was it Huawei?) and Microsoft (which seems to have bowed out...again). Samsung hasn't gotten out of that niche mentality.Shawn Hensley said:I love folding phones and have used one for a few years, it has completely replaced my tablet, but while other companies have been making better folding phones and innovating, Samsung has been coasting and yes suckering their best customers. If OnePlus, Honor, Huawei, Vivo, etc can put high end cameras and make their phones cheaper why can't Samsung? Why have they put the same low end cameras on the Fold for 3 years? I tried a OnePlus Open earlier this year, which was over $500 cheaper (on sale) than my Z Fold 5 and realized I was suckered, it blew away the Z Fold 5 in every way. Faster, lighter, longer battery, and crazy better cameras, almost no crease. Then the Z Fold 6 comes out, same cameras, same battery, slightly better screens. No thank you.
The other biggest downside to Samsung's foldables is the lack of cross device S Pen compatibility. Which I think has more to do with the display type than anything else. You can't use the S Pen from a Note or S Ultra series device on a Fold device. However, the S Pens are compatible between Samsung Tab S and Note/S Ultra lines. I can use the S Pen from my Tab S9 on both my S24 Ultra and Galaxy Book2 360 Pro and vice versa. Which comes in real handy. In fact, that was one of the primary reasons why I switched from Surface Pro (which I had been using for around 10 years).
The people I know with Fold phones are more productivity oriented and not picture/video taking oriented; and they are quite happy with them.
The primary reason I haven't gotten a Fold is the lack of S Pen compatibility with non-Fold S Pen capable devices. I think if Samsung were to make the Fold completely cross compatible with its other S Pen capable devices (e.g. Tab S tablets, S Ultra phones, and Galaxy Book 360 and 360 Pro laptops), added an S Pen silo, and beefed up the camera, more people would be willing to pay the higher price. -
Jerry Hildenbrand
Just an engine on a stand right now. Hopefully it's going into a 72 chevelle wagon one daynotforhire said:the pricing on the Fold appears to be akin to the Apple Tax everyone knows and loves. as for the cam shaft you purchased, I'd like to see the car it's going in 😉 -
notforhire
very nice. that should be a separate article or thread on its own! good luck.Jerry Hildenbrand said:Just an engine on a stand right now. Hopefully it's going into a 72 chevelle wagon one day -
mustang7757
Project car :)Jerry Hildenbrand said:Just an engine on a stand right now. Hopefully it's going into a 72 chevelle wagon one day -
kingtigre You're right, they're overpriced. Should they be this expensive? Nope, not even a little.Reply
If I had paid full price for my Fold 5, I wouldn't have gotten it. Luckily they have very generous trade-in values on old devices.
Here's the thing: you know that "Buyer's remorse" feeling? I've had that for just about every electronic I've ever bought. I have yet to have that for this phone. Almost a year in and the Fold 5 continues to impress me. It has, in my opinion, been worth every penny. The software is excellent.