2012's flagship devices won't receive another point release
It's always a sad day when we have to report that a device will no longer be receiving software updates. HTC has confirmed that its 2012 flagship, the One X+ — and by extension the One X — will not be making the jump beyond Android 4.2.2 and Sense 5. The writing was really on the wall when the devices only received the 4.2 update late in 2013, but it still hurts to know for sure that further updates aren't on the way.
Now that's not to say that the One X and X+ aren't fine phones on their current versions of software, but it can be a bit of a tough pill to swallow when HTC has made great strides in updating its newer One variants. The One X+ in particular was a solid device that only went on sale here in the states at the end of 2012, so there are still plenty in service out there today.
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@davidjorourke Hi. We can confirm that the One X+ will not receive further Android updates & will remain on the current version of Android.
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HTC One X+ will not be updated past Android 4.2.2
I can upgrade later this year. So it will time to try new brand of phone, maybe Samsung.
just few words. Other same class and time smartphones from other company got kitkat. That's all !
Which Android company updates their phones for the longest time?
None that is where the problem is. Alot of android phones debut with the old os then only get one major update. When the phones cost more than a notebook then get only one update people have the right to be mad. Can you go to best buy and buy a iPhone with the old os on it no you can't but 7 or 8 of the android phones are jellybean. That's a problem and I am no techy and see this.
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Actually Samsung flagship phones have been rather good. The s2 got 2 major updates with ics and jb. The s3 got 4.1,4.2 and 4.3 and is getting 4.4. The s4 got 4.3, is getting 4.4 and will get the next one too if any of the previous flagships are anything to go buy. Same with there note series. Sure not nexus good but compared to other oems they Imo are good as long it's a flagship phone.
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Lol can't believe people are actually defending htc for not supporting there last flagship.. It isn't like it's a flagship from few years back it literally is the previous flagship. But yeah you people keep defending htc for dropping the balls as usual and see them slow wither away cause that's what will happen. They basically telling there current customer base to not expect long term support from HTC.
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Hilarious. Your fault for buying a freaking HTC one x. Some of you should know better by now.
U HTC fanboys think that everyone bought the one X right when it was released and not AFTER it got its price drops... The phone may be 18mo old but I know people who got it well after it was 6 months old.
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and those people should be happy with 4.2. or learn to flash ROMs
I like Android but this is a problem especially if you buy one of those new TV with android built in it might never get updated and it is already out dated platform built in
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Good point about the tv's. +1
Smart tv's don't get updated as often as they should, let alone the ones running a custom skin of Android.
That's why I only buy Smart DVD players...Those things seem to update every time you turn them on.
Everyone should know by now if updates are important to you, but a Nexus. My Note 2 may be on 4.3 for good now and I'm fine with that. If you bring up Apple bugging down, I mean "supporting" their older devices (even though it's missing most of the features of the OS and is pretty much a number change.) Than go buy an iPhone 4 if it's so good. I'm sure that HTC One X is better than an iPhone 4 or 5 on their latest OS.
Your note 2 will get 4.4
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Not surprised at all.
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Well well isn't this grand. Purchased this phone shortly after launch (2011) and while its decent, it has issues. The largest issue for me was the shoddy bluetooth and "No SIM Card Detected" message.
AT&T couldn't fix the issue by sending me refurbs, because its a manufacturer flaw. The past few days, I've been thinking about how I can sell this thing and get a Moto X or Nexus 5.
No support for this device greatly diminishes its value. Nov. 2014 would be the 2 year mark for this device. This HOX+ is only 13 months old and I'm stuck paying AT&T for a phone that is no longer supported. I feel bad for those who sign 2 year contracts shortly before the HOX+ was discontinued..
Done with HTC and done with contracts.
This is why I don't buy HTC products, they don't support them long enough. Well, that and I owned a Thunderbolt for 2 years.
Furthermore, I can buy a bottom barrel $300 laptop and it'll receive os support for 10 years, but a top line $600+ phone only gets it for 2. Sorry, but we as consumers should demand better.
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Exactly
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If I bought a new laptop and was told it wouldn't be supported beyond 1.5 to 2 years, I'd be quite mad and quite frankly that type of policy would probably ruin said PC maker. I think phone buyers should have the same expectation of support. Just because they would rather you constantly buy new devices should not mean no support. HTC isn't the only one to blame in this regard, but they do seem to be one of the worst to abandon high end devices rather soon.
Essentially HTC is saying screw you Mr Consumer for holding on to your overly expensive $600 phone for longer than we think you should. As a consumer, I rather say screw you HTC, I won't own any of your products. Good luck!
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That's essentially what I did.
Well realistically consumers paid $0-200 for the phone since it was only available on at&t and should be up for an upgrade by now. so just wait for the M8 and upgrade
This is why I stopped buying HTC. They have been infamous for this.
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Makes me happy I own a Nexus
That doesn't always keep you safe as we saw with the galaxy nexus not getting KitKat and the Nexus One not getting ICS. I think those updates were both about 2 years out. So, a little better than this case but still support ended after two years or so.
Everyone raves about Android being so customizable and rooting and hacking. News like this shouldn't matter.
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Ha! I'd be happy just to get 4.2.2. My One X+ is still on 4.1.1 and Sense 4 with no word on the update that was supposed to go out in July last year and keeps getting pushed back.
How many average non techy people with basically no knowledge of what an android update even is are complaining about this? I would bet there's way more of those people out there than us. So I don't think its that big of a deal.
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I am no techy and this is bull crap
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Raise hell!!!
You're commenting on this site. You're not part of the average Joe population.
So if I buy a phone and download a app then comment what is on the forums makes me smarter than the average joe wow that's great
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Lol exactly I guess being able to comment on the Internet must make us above the average Joe.. People really need to stop thinking that if ones not into as tech as us people then they really are either oblivious or stupid or don't care.. Apple as muxh as they get hate from the Android crowd has made technology more accessible to the non techie crowd and has gotten them use to the ideas of long term software support and receiving updates etc
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I agree. My wife has a note 2 and won't let me touch her phone to update it past the first security fix that was released. She doesn't care at all about what version of Android she runs. She only cares that her phones runs great right now and doesn't want anything to change.
The funny part is that absolutely no average Joe care about that.
Why are people ranting at HTC and comparing them to Apple's updating of their phones? Apple don't have as many phones to update (they only updated iPhone 4 onwards to iOS7 so I heard) so I think that's five phones, right? As others have pointed out - it costs money to update each phone and there are lots of costs in phone manufacturing anyway and HTC have been struggling a bit recently.
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People should buy devices based on what they do now and not what they hope it will do in the future. We all know that our devices aren't going to receive updates until the end of time so should expect announcements like this. I'm sure most of the people complaining about HTC don't even own one of their phones. Me I'm happy with my One X with 4.2.2 and Sense 5 :o)
Oops shouldn't have been a reply to The Elusive Wordsmith's post.
What bothers me is that Google announced something on the lines of making the updates easier and simpler.
With such actions HTC is wondering why their devices don't sell. Say what you will about Samsung, it may release bazillion devices but even low end devices like galaxy chat and galaxy music saw updates from ics to jelly beans
Even the galaxy r i9103 that didn't sell well, saw update from gingerbread to ics, while the flagship of the time lg 2x, Motorola photon 4g, atrix 4g never made it beyond gingerbread. The common thing was nvidia tegra 2 chip
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One thing is certain. HTC needs to revamp their naming. One, one x, one x+.... I see the theme but it's kind of haphazard.
Ridiculous indeed.
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Wow! This is so stupid! You buy a 500-600$ phone and no more updates... If I'm not mistaken... its been less than 2 years since the One X+ launch.
This article helped me narrow my choice. I think Nexus is the safest choice. I'm sure it'll stay updated for at least 2 years if not 3.
Up your game HTC... Apple devices receive firmware updates for devices even 3 years old. This is the main problem with Samsung/HTC... take out a 1000 phones and then realize they can't even keep their flagship phones updated. I hope Google/Nexus stick to the 1 OR 2 phone launches per year.
You won't receive official OS updates on Nexus devices, past 2 years. After those 2 years are up, you'll have to rely on the ROM community for any future updates.
Nexus devices are always up to date.. That two years means your OS will be ahead of the curve for 3 compared to OEM phones.
To put it another way.. 4.2.2 was released in February 2013. The OneX+ was released in April 2012. That's effectively 10 months of support.
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Ok, I see what you're saying, brother.
The One X+ was released in November of 2012. The One X+ basically got 4 months of support.
Well fuckity fuck fuck fuck...The OneX+- is still the OneX with a frickin + at the end of it. It's an old phone just like when HTC made the Evo4GLTE one.
But the gnex was even updated to 4.3.
That phone had some shit internals compared to the tegra 3 of the one x+
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Haha yeah, very true. Not to mention, the GNex ran 4.3 pretty damn good.
Except for that Verizon piece of shit.
People can just install CyanogenMod or a custom ROM and be up to date. Carriers and manufactures are unpredictable
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Yeah that is possible... but it's a pain for people who don't know much about computers & rooting your devices. And besides... it's always better to have updates form the manufacturer.
Better yet... switch over from HTC... they're too busy updating their newer line of phones anyway.
Most people don't buy expensive phones to play with all that nonsense. Some people don't want to brink their phones or dedicate more time to their phones than their couples. Some people just want a phone completely functional on its own.
But then again, those OEMs are not software companies. Are mostly, hardware companies.
My Moto G
Another why HTC's dying
RIP HTC
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+1 to that!
Sucking the consumers dry... and sh*tty customer support... no firmware support after 15-18 months.
I think they have already reserved a spot in the graveyard... BETWEEN Nokia and Blackberry :D
You are absolutely right. I've been monitoring their financial reports for most of 2013, and all of them mentioned lack of Android revision updates as a reason for declining profits. There is even an entry in their balance sheet that shows a negative amount for revenue lost due to not supporting devices for more than 8 months. Pity
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Really sad stuff. After paying so much trying to support the company, they don't seem to return the favour by supporting the devices sold.
Reason why I've stopped buying HTC phones after sticking with them since android came to lime light.
HTC used to be the face of android now they're nothing more than a sinking ship.
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If Android revision updates (which no company is obligated to provide) is your major criterion for supporting an OEM, then that is your preference.
That does not change the fact that irrational fallacies are created that indicate the lack of a lengthy support life cycle (for Android updates) is a major factor that impacts a company's earnings.
Whoever truly believes that, needs to lay off the sherm and stop trying to get wet every day.
Answer this: if they UI layer is so intrusive to the point that it mask additional features that are provided (per release version), then what is the point of updating?
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Updates are not just about the ui, it's about security fixes, bug fixes, things like trim support, open gl 3, bug fixes, making Android more efficient with battery, run better overall, better memory management etc etc. It's not all about just seeing visual differences but about the many different behind the scenes differences that just makes os better. Yes htc doesn't have to support there customers with updates but it sure is good customer service if they do which will keep current user base happy which leads to more loyal customers who will then buy there next phone and considering how bad they been doing financially it wouldn't hurt keeping there user base happy. Sure people like to use the argument that no one cares about updates etc but apple have brought the idea of software support and long term support to the front of consumers minds. I might be wrong but pretty much everyone I know knows about ios updates and when they coming and even my Android friends know about things like kitkat and these people are not even the tech kind but I don't think consumers are oblivious to things like software updates as many people think.. Apple have made technology more mainstream and more aware of it too. The only place where I don't see this as a major problem is that most of the core Google apps are updated via the play store and play services which is Googles way of sorting out the lack of updates by some oems but things like ram management, project slevete, making Android more efficient, security etc are important behind the scene stuff and unfortunately at the moment needs a os update. As I said htc don't have to do anything but it would be good customer service if they did.
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"HTC SUCKS ASS!!!!" That's the custom carrier label I use on every custom ROM I flash. I suppose I should thank then though because if they didn't make the One X that I bought such a piece of shit I never would have gotten into rooting and romming.
The average user won't even know the difference nor will they care. I've done all sorts of things to my HTC One and in the end I'm back on stock. People expect so much out of there phones nowadays.
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Maybe NVIDIA dropped support for the Tegra 3?
Nexus 7 2012 says hello.
The phone was just not that popular.
It was released on 1 carrier in the states.
The One X (tegra based) , X+ are using a different version of the Tegra 3 compared to the Nexus 7.
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The phone was only available to about 1/3 of the US, so it must have sold poorly in the global market? I think you underestimate the smartphone market outside the US. If 100-150 million Americans (rough estimate) use Android devices, around 7 to 10 times that many people use it globally. The US is a big market to be sure, but it's not even close to the majority of the global market.
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Well, if lack of hardware support's not the reason, perhaps HTC thought the One X was not worth updating anymore?
Pity, especially since their support for the M7 is pretty high, with 2 major updates (4.3, 4.4*) in the US, and 3 worldwide (4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4*).
* 4.4 is not rolled out to ALL HTC Ones.
Haha any article about a device reaching the end of its update support seems to summon a whirlwind of hate against the company responsible... Never mind how old the devices are. Most One X and X+'s are going to be upgraded to new phones very soon considering they're about 2 years and 1.5 years old... 90% of consumers won't even realize what they're missing. Even if they updated the devices to KitKat, by the time HTC managed to go through all the steps necessary, 90% of the users will have upgraded phones already. There's no contract that says phones need to be supported forever.
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+1
Yeah, and as you said, it shouldn't surprise anyone, considering the limited availability of both the One X and One X+.
Not everyone has the money to upgrade on a contract. Some even bought the phone off contract and with those specs, it's a real shocker what HTC have done.
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I beg to differ... Nexus 7 2012 received the KitKat update. The problem with HTC is... they're trying to win over people in every segment... and it's ridiculous to know that the people who actually are off contract with the One X/X+ aren't gonna get a firmware update. It costs a bomb off contract. This will only encourage people to defect to Apple. Nexus isn't that bad, but I think Google should come out with a higher range of phones.. but not more than 2-3 variations... or it'll again be like HTC/Samsung.. too much to handle!
Hell even Apple has firmware updates for devices that are 3 years old... and here... HTC can't even keep their flagship phones of 2012 updated till mid or end of 2014... not even 2 years of life?!
phone it almost a year and a half old. come on people.
And it only came out on AT&T in the states which means it sold a ton less than the S3.
Anybody care to guess what the last update the Optimus G or G pro got?
Hmm...that is a good point!
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People pay a lot for these phones!!!! Please come on people give me a break
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i'm running a preview version of cm11 (4.4.2) on an HTC one x and it's working great!
It's been 18 months since launch right?
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almost. like 16 or 17
If it's stable and fluid, IMO it doesn't matter what version your on
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we would all have iPhones with this theory... you gotta strive for the latest and greatest, man!
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How dare you say something so reasonable?! Think of all the feelings people won't get to have if you keep using logic! Rage and terror are at risk if you keep that up!
THE INHUMANITY!!!
There's more than stability. There are new features introduced with new versions.
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NOT on skinned versions. None of the user facing features, save for minor ones that would be killed by carriers anyways, would make it through to these devices. That's why people screaming about not getting it don't make much sense.
Riiigghhhhtttt. Tell me what's wrong with this factoid: a convenient feature was introduced in ICS that permitted folder creation to occur, simply by dragging one icon over another. Touchwiz devices running 4.3 are still under the influence of the Gingerbread spell and have decided that an icon should run away if another one gets near it. Maybe those icons should have listened to you and obeyed the orders of the latest Android features.
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Icons re-positioning themselves was not added until jelly bean... It was not even possible in ICS or GB.
No, that isn't what I was implying. Folder creation was possible in ICS. My reference to the icon repositioning, was my way of saying that the creation of folders in a manner akin to ICS, is prohibited.
Simplified folder creation was not possible in Gingerbread and the same is true for Touchwiz running versions of Android greater than 4.0. As far as I'm concerned, the end user experience in that aspect is the same with either version (in touchwiz).
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I do agree with this. Unfortunately the only truly fluid android phone I have used runs android 4.4.
Until an app is released that your OS doesn't support while you are still paying $25 a month from AT&T for your phone.
That's terrible. Cmon HTC why you leave people hanging? Hopefully my note three won't meet such an end.
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I seem to be less horrified than everyone else.
The phones at the end of it's days. They'll be steadily being replaced under contract now. And it did get two solid updates.
I just feel like more would be nice, but it's had its run.
It's not being left in some unusably bad state.
This is why I will never buy another HTC phone. They only update what they have to, and if a device they release doesn't sell as well as they want, they just forget they ever made it. I made the terrible mistake of buying a Droid Incredible 4G on Verizon (to replace my Incredible, which I loved since it was a great root and ROM device with a really active dev community) and it just never got updated--not a single point release. I understand devices can't be updated forever but HTC doesn't even respect their customers enough to update a device barely a year old. I won't be shocked if even the One doesn't get 4.5/5.0 since they'll be focusing on selling the M8.
The one got 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, and 4.4 and you'd be disappointed if it doesn't get 4.5? by the time 4.5 comes out the One will be 1.5 years old. The nexus 4 won't even get 4.5 since it will be 2 years old. I'll have some of whatever you're smoking cuz you gotta be on drugs if expect companies to support phones that are 1.5 to 2 years old.
This.... (seriously, you nailed it for the idiots who don't understand, or are incapable)
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Stop making excuses for companies that are making millions (or billions) of dollars a year on phones. Apple still supports 3 year old hardware with their much improved iOS7.
We need to stop letting the HTCs of the world use 18 months as an excuse. Strip the shitty skins, stop releasing 4 versions of the same phone in 8 month and update your damn phones for 2 to 3 years.
Saying Apple supports old phones isnt really true. The old phones run little more than an OS that resembles the new one.
Many features are missing, performance suffers, often reliability is reduced. The old Apples are not on a level with the new ones.
No, it is 100% true. Apple supports older phones. Everything else is just semantics.
Let the OEMs figure out what they can't support in 4.4 or future updates. If you can get 75% of 4.4 minus a couple features wouldn't it still be worth it? Plus, 4.4 was made for lower powered phones. Apple is going the opposite way and still keeping up. Meanwhile people are apologizing for HTC who cannot even update a 16 month old phone to an OS that needs less power.
Then just buy an iPhone! Geez, people nowadays...
Great comeback
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And the iPhone 4 runs like shit on IOS 7.
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Nope, we have several users that have a 4 with iOS7 and it runs fine for a 3+ year old phone.
..... and you stop making sense! Just stop it right now! With all your intelligence and common sense.
HTC just can't get there shit together. This is why I left HTC for Samsung.
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There's no reason to support phones more than 18 months old.
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Why not?not everyone can afford the latest and greatest.
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Then be happy with the version of whatever you can afford?
+1
HTC can't release updates for the fraction of users who continue to use their One X(+)'s... They never promised to support the device forever. Users should be happy with the device they buy on day 1, not complain that they don't have the latest and greatest Android version on a 2 year old phone.
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Bullshit. When did people start taking the side of shitty OEMs instead of consumers?
Did you get a lot of participation trophies growing up?
LMFAO...Can't wait to feel the full brunt of this entitled "everyone gets a medal/trophy" generation. What a bunch of pansies.
What the hell are you 2 dipshits talking about? Do you not understand the difference between paying upwards of $600 for a phone and AYSO soccer?
I love internet toughies.
That's what happens when you're brainwashed into buying the flagship from a second tier OEM like HTC.
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It's a fool's errand, for a company to perpetually update devices. At some point, it's not financially viable to keep providing updates, when the amount of people still using those handsets doesn't equal the money it would take to push out an over-the-air update.
These are businesses, not charities.
And, those people that can't afford the latest and greatest should be happy with what they have. Some people can't afford a smartphone at all.
Hmm...developing & testing a new version of software on a 12-18mo old device cost sooooo much money? Really?
Personally, I think keeping a smartphone up to date for 18mo's is reasonable, after that, either be happy, or upgrade.
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dunno what it costs but it's not making you any money that's for sure.
Actually yes, it is costly. The amount of man hours needed for development and testing isn't negligible. The flowchart that HTC provided, showed how detailed the update process is. At each level there's quite a bit of effort needed for verification and validation. If it is possible to perform those actions at a reduced costs and not compromise the quality of the software, I'd love to see how they do it.
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Pissing off your existing customers 6 months or more before their upgrade date is also costly.
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What's the point of having the latest version if you're gonna update soon anyways?
I think his point is that if you piss off the customer before their upgrade, they are likely to go with another manufacturer. Because the customer is going to see it as not supporting their phone, and why would they want that to happen again?
I agree that you can't support a phone forever, but at least support it for the length of a contract that most people are going to get themselves locked into.
Well, I'm not entirely sure, how much money it costs to develop software and issue OTAs. But, if companies are stopping the updates off at 18 months (on average), then I think it's safe to conclude that it ain't cheap.
Minor releases are not worth the time and effort. Major releases certainly are.
Your not going far enough either with the cost. Development, testing, more development, testing, pushing it out (bandwidth isnt cheap) then after all that, you have the support calls.
Very true, brother.
Bandwidth? LTE can handle plenty of data! I've been reading about multiple input multiple output, and carrier aggregation for a while, LTE can handle tons of data. If LTE suffered that easily, we'd all be getting 3-6mbps, but most in the U.S. are getting between 10-20mbps regardless of carrier, all LTE (Sprint remains useless, or so I hear.)
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Obviously, the point went soaring over your head. It's expensive for the OEM to purchase the bandwith to push the update. What, you thought only little minions pay for data?
It DOES cost a lot of money. Allocating a team of engineers to update the SW and QA it doesn't come cheap.
Keeping them up perpetually is stupid.
Keeping them up for the 2 years that someone has the phone on contract is good business.
Lets look at in the current context. I am gonna be a hell of a lot happier with Samsung than HTC, because they didn't take my money and run...
+1!!!!!!
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Sure, but abandoning a phone that early is bad image and people think they got burnt. Normally contracts last for 2 years and then you can get a new phone, so phone makers should make sure there are updates during those said two years so when the time comes to choose a new phone the person will go with the same brand. If you drop the phone 1 year after I bought it I will feel cheated and I will go for another brand.
Samsung is great with phone support. Hell, even the galaxy s2 has been updated to jelly bean. That phone is super old. I had the Evo LTE and was extremely disappointed with their support considering it was a flag ship phone. HTC has lost their touch with updates.
Oh, and for the people always say "root your phone". Not to many people want to deal with rooting/un-rooting.
Who cares how old the phone is. The only thing that matters is how long it was supported and the One X was essentially supported for less than a year. The One X+ was supported for about 4 months. In the case of the One X+ it was released late in 2012 and the last OS update it received was released a few months later. If I'm buying a phone I expect expect it to be updated to a version of android that is more than 4 or 5 months older than the phone itself.
Right, Samsung... Shit hardware, shit software. Congratulations.
Bull
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Not so sure if Troll or Fanboy?
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So far LG seems the worst with updates the g2 is still on 4.2.2 and it is their main flagship
G2
They're just lazy. As long as it took to be released on sprint it should have at least came out with 4.3.
And it scorches the earth on 4.2.2...buy one and see for yourself
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I have one. And I got sick of 4.2 already. Running CM 11 with broken GPS. hoping i don't need directions to anywhere till march or april when LG releases 4.4
So do I, and it's perfect on 4.2.2.. Are you a numbers queen or something?
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Thats idiotic. You would rather have a newer base OS than a functional phone?
The difference between 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is so minor its not even worth worrying about and using CM11 instead of LG stock is a step back in every way.
I have a G2 and the CM builds are junk compared to the LG builds.
Yeah, I think we're reaching that point of diminishing returns, with regards to some custom roms.
Exactly...I haven't rooted my last 2 phones because there really isn't a reason anymore. Kinda' sad because I enjoyed rooting and romming (sp) them.
The difference is really minor.
Especially on a phone with (albeit not pretty) a very good custom skin.
The only phones that this makes a bug difference on are the phones that need to be speeded up, and the nexus 5 because of the new launcher.
Posted from my Nexus 7(2013).
Phone is fully functional minus the GPS. Small trade off till LG releasing the update.
See, the fact that you can't be happy with something for longer than a week is not LG's problem, it's yours.
There's not been THAT many changes in Android since the 4.x line started. And most you wouldn't notice on a day to day basis.
You'd rather run a buggy POS like CM11 simply because it has a higher version of Android. What is wrong with you?
I know I have issues. I'm also coming from a Nexus 4 so downgrading from 4.4 to 4.2 was hard to adjust to.
Actually the Korean variant of the G2 allready received KitKat in December.
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So this is 'Murrica!!!!
Man ain't this gonna piss some people off. The S3 is already on 4.3 and htc gives up on its 2012 phone.
derp
Yup. Ridiculous.
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Also wasnt KitKat supposed to run on low end devices?
This is not low end. Even today.
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Ya, I think we can give up that argument. HTC just does not want to pay for development.
derp
True. But this doesn't make the One look good...
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How doesn't it? It has received 3 updates in less than a year. What non nexus phone received that many updates in less than a year?
But the fact the x+ was abandoned after 1 year doesn't look good.
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Well one update was just to make up for the lacking 4.2 update
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To be fair, I gotta admit the One X started all the way back on 4.03 + Sense 4, then got 4.04 + Sense 4.1, then 4.1.2 + Sense 4+, then 4.2.2 + Sense 5.
They did followed it decently for one year. But now the party's over, while S3 owners are still in for some nifty updates.
Expect 4.4 to be the end of the road for the One.
It's supposed to run on low end HW, not be pushed out to every phone since forever.
If people want updates, DONT BUY AN OEM PHONE. PERIOD.
I hear ya but how the hell is tegra 3 low end HTC dropped the ball big time
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Yeah, this bothers me. I love my One but if they come out with a new phone this Spring and quit updating my One I will look elsewhere for my next phone and I'm a die hard HTC customer.
The real die-hard HTC customers are buying the flagship each year anyway, so they're not out anything. It's normal people who like HTC's designs that get hosed.
My question is how are they getting hosed? What is the difference between 4.2 and 4.3 or 4.4?
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And the Galaxy S3 will see Kit Kat 4.4.2 also.
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no it won't
Source?
Please, don't say "no it wont" just to say no.
source that it will?
I got nothing, lol. And, you're probably right.
I believe Samsung is shooting for Apr/May 2014. It has been a few months since I owned the S3 so I am not holding my breath.
It is already in a leaked document that AC has yet to put out there, that the S3 will see 4.4.X
No it's not. Prove us all wrong with some kind of confirmation. I'm saying no because Scamsung hasn't said squat.
Nexus 5...enough said
Like you knew the G Flex wouldn't come to the US based on the (at the time) rumored screen specs? http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g-flex-specs-and-performance-appear-in-an...
dude the difference between 4.2 and 4.3 is so minor. Why you think Moto skipped 4.3?
But, that's hardly an argument, when Motorola updated its devices past 4.3.
Motorola skipping 4.3 to update handsets to 4.4 > HTC not updating a handset at all.
Even with the minor differences, Samsung still updated the S3 to 4.3. And, despite those minor differences, the update still contained bug fixes.
So, again... Samsung updating the S3 to 4.3 > HTC not updating a handset at all.
Meh I'm not gonna lose sleep over 4.3
Lol, I'm not either. But, my point still stands: if you have the One X or One X+, then you'd rather have the update than not.
Are you kidding me? 4.3 gives the phone so much more stability and speed. It is a good update for any phone that can get it. I'd rather have a phone die on 4.3 then 4.1.1 lol
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So after the phone dies on 4.3 you would downgrade it to 4.1 and have it die again? Weird.
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You mean 4.2.2?
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There is a HUGE difference in 4.2.x to 4.3
Man, you really post some ignorant shit.
Rather than looking at a change log why not look at how it actually affects a phone. I have a number of phones here, from 4.0.3 to 4.4.2 and frankly you would be hard pressed to tell which was which.
Sure newer is better, but unless there is a specific problem you need addressed it doesnt matter.
You would tell real quickly when you tried to use quick settings or Google Now on 4.0.3 ICS. 4.1 doesn't have quick settings menu either.
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At least some American variants got 4.2.2 skipped so they needed the update to 4.3. My MIL has a Verizon S3 and it was on 4.1.2 until the 4.3 update.
It's very reasonable for HTC to no longer support phones that are 18+ months old. Especially the One X which is 2 years old, but even the One X+.
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The problem with your argument is that 4.2.2 was released last February making it 11 months old.
The phone, not the os. Derp.
Since the final OS version on the One X is 4.2.2, which was released last February, it effectively made the device only supported for 11 months. Even less if you look at the release of 4.2 and not the pint updates to it. It is the same as if HTC upgraded the One to 4.4 and then EOLed it.
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Exactly.
Apple supports their devices for up to 2-3 years. Just last year the iPhone 4 got iOS 7, albeit some things weren't compatible etc, but that was a device released in 2010! And the latest iOS at the time was ios 4. This device is capable of running kitkat or 4.3 but its laziness on the part of HTC for not upgrading. Isn't kitkat supposed to be a really skim is so it can on 512 GB ram devices? Problem with android is the lack of os updates that phones are more than capable to receive don't receive it
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Apple also creates one (now two) phones per year. They write their own OS, so they have access to it from the start so they can, from day one, make sure that the major features are compatible with previous gen phones. In other words, Apple gets to develop HW and SW in parallel and can test it all the way through. Android OEMs do not have that luxury.
You can't really compare this to Apple.
It is still one phone. The iPhone C is just an iPhone 5 with a plastic back.
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That's incorrect.
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The only difference between the two is that they swapped out a couple of radios. That's all. Same processor and everything.
And different Wifi/Bluetooth modules and a different LTE modem, based on what Anandtech wrote. The SoC is the same but there's still some differences.
The problem with HTC, LG, etc is that they do not give updates. It is not accurate to lump all of Android in with them.
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I fully disagree with this. It is not in any way reasonable for the people that purchased an HTC One X/X+ on contract last year to not get any further updates. The phone can obviously handle it so what is the problem?
Could the problem possibly be that awful crappy skin the still use?
That is the 2011 phone... The "One" is the 2012 phone, and is at least on 4.3
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The One X was released in 2012 and the One was released in 2013.
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I keep forgetting this is 2014...
Haha, that's undersatandable.
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I liked my One...just got sick of Sprint
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same boat. I like my G2 but sprint LTE get 0 building penetration at my job
I almost bought one x in 2012. I settled for S3 though. Guess I made a good choice
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It's why I gave up on buying HTC
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You got that right
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