HMD Global hasn't made a good phone in 2019. That doesn't bode well for the Nokia brand

Nokia 7 Plus (Image credit: Nokia)

HMD Global has been making Android phones under the Nokia brand for over two and a half years now, and in that time it has established itself as a favorite among those seeking a clean Android experience. HMD teamed up with Google early on, committing to Android One on all its phones. Doing so allowed Nokia to get up and running without investing too much time and resources into making its own skin, leaving more time for launching new devices.

The brand has been busy during that time: HMD has launched 25 Nokia-branded Android phones to date, and while a few were re-branded variants for global markets, that is a lot of phones in just over 30 months. HMD has largely focused on the budget segment in emerging markets like India and China, two countries where the Nokia name still has a strong pull. While some Nokia phones made their way to the UK and U.S., the brand's primary focus continues to be on Asian markets.

HMD hasn't been able to build on the success of the Nokia 7 Plus and the Nokia 8.1.

HMD has launched several great products over the last two years, but it looks like that initial momentum has dried up. There haven't been any noteworthy devices this year aside from iterative updates and a flagship that doesn't quite work. That's in stark contrast to last year, when HMD rolled out the Nokia 7 Plus and followed it up with the Nokia 8.1.

The Nokia 7 Plus was one of the best phones of 2018. It showcased HMD's best traits — classic industrial design, great internal hardware, and clean Android — and was a clear indicator of the brand's resurgence under Android. It's no wonder, then, that the device sold remarkably well in the markets where it was available. The fact that it wasn't officially sold in the U.S. was a travesty.

HMD launched the Nokia 8.1 soon after, switching to a glass design and updated internal hardware. But it has been nearly a year since the launch of the Nokia 8.1, and we're yet to see a decent mid-range option that builds on the Nokia 8.1. HMD instead unveiled the Nokia 7.2 earlier this month at IFA, with the phone running the same Snapdragon 660 chipset as the Nokia 7 Plus.

Sure, HMD's strategy hasn't been about offering the most robust specs — just like Google — but making the most out of that hardware. Still, there's no excuse for launching a phone at the end of 2019 with a chipset that's nearly three years old, when the competition is fielding flagship-level hardware in the same segment. HMD needs to follow up and deliver a device that can take on the likes of Xiaomi and OnePlus. Being a bit-part player just doesn't cut it anymore, and the Finnish manufacturer needs to take a good look at its strategy going forward.

HMD needs to succeed, because there isn't another company making budget Android One phones.

HMD as a company needs to succeed because there aren't enough manufacturers focusing on Android One. Xiaomi rolls out one device a year, but no other brand offers anywhere close to the range of devices running Android One as HMD. With Motorola fading into obsolescence, HMD Global is now the flag-bearer for the Android One program. If you need a budget phone with clean Android, Nokia phones are the default choice.

That's why it's so frustrating to see HMD continue to roll out iterative updates. Its big bet with the Nokia 9 PureView didn't pay off, and it now feels like the brand is content to just rehash older designs with little to no changes. That is a disservice to the Nokia name — a brand that has long been associated with some of the boldest designs we've seen over the decades. Sure, some of those devices failed to hit the mark, but at least Nokia was willing to experiment, and more often than not it found a winning formula.

That's what HMD needs to deliver: it already manages to stand out on the software front; now it needs to rekindle some of that hardware brilliance that made the Nokia name great.

Stll great

Nokia 7.1

The default choice if you're in the U.S.
HMD hasn't released many phones in the U.S., and if you're looking for an Android One device under $300, the Nokia 7.1 is the default choice right now. The Snapdragon 636 is decent enough, and you get a 1080p HDR10 display. Best of all, the phone works on all GSM carriers in the U.S.

Harish Jonnalagadda is a Senior Editor overseeing Asia at Android Central. He leads the site's coverage of Chinese phone brands, contributing to reviews, features, and buying guides. He also writes about storage servers, audio products, and the semiconductor industry. Contact him on Twitter at @chunkynerd.

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I mean - proof that "updates don't matter" when it comes to sales, right? If we're talking US, what HMD needs to do is get a deal for the Nokia brand to be in carrier stores, but is there room for another brand on carrier shelves?
"HMD as a company needs to succeed because there aren't enough manufacturers focusing on Android One." See, here's your problem. You are A MINORITY. Most consumers don't like stock Android. And that has affected HMD phone sales in key markets in such a way that the initial momentum has, indeed, died after 2017. Because after they released the first Nokia branded smartphones with stock Android, people quickly saw that HMD wasn't up to the task of carrying on the Nokia legacy. It was more than the awful cameras on the phones, or the designs copy/pasted from generic Chinese copies of the iPhone. It is also the lack of innovative, differentiating software. Stock Android is years behind what the likes of Samsung, Huawei and Xiaomi are offering their consumers. You might not like their approaches to software (God knows from these 3 I only like Samsung's take on Android), but the vast majority of consumers does. Nokia's approach to software was always unique and allowed people to do more with it, not less. Just look at how much better Windows Phone was on a Nokia phone than a Samsung or an HTC phone.
The same doesn't happen on Android One. HMD phones are as crappy software-wise as an iPixel or any other random Android One phone. They offer nothing special and nothing more to the consumer. The "Nokia" 7.2 is a ridiculously high priced phone considering the outdated hardware in it. But having released it with a more modern SoC would have made no difference whatsoever. Because the core problem would still be there: people would be paying over 300€ for a phone that doesn't do more than the 99€ "Nokia" 2.2. And that's pretty much the fault of Android One. Which is why I'm not surprised Motorola is dumping the program. Stock Android isn't good enough and isn't differentiating in a positive way to consumers. HMD sales have suffered because of that and Foxconn has withdrawn support from the company by refusing to continue to make money losers. HMD's survival is still in question as they continue to lose money and are now trying to, again, go around investors to get funds to keep going. But I can tell you right now that they will fail unless they fire that inept of a CPO they have and do a 180º turn. They need to vastly reduce their catalogue of phones and start developing an Android ROM that delivers on Nokia's legacy of innovation.
They don't need to go out and redesign the entire OS (although, honestly, considering how horrible Google's design is, that wouldn't be a bad thing) nor create a ton of duplicate apps. Look at OnePlus for example as a good example of an improved version of Android that doesn't overload the OS with junk. Until such a 180º turn happens and Sarvikas is kicked out, HMD will continue their path towards the abyss, repeating the exact same mistakes Nokia's D&S division did: releasing too many phones and relying on someone else entirely to do the software for them.
While I agree that HMD Glabal is releasing too many phones, o will always defend their decision to go with Android One, and there will always be a place for stock Android to exist, I've never liked skinned versions of Android with the excessive bloat and unnecessary apps and OEM services which I don't need or want which is why I love the Pixel and Android One range and love my Nokia 8.1, stock Android needs to exist as our options are already limited and you want to kill that option just because you don't like stock Android well isn't that what Android is about? Choice so while I despise Android skins, there's a place for them with Android whether you like it or not. Not everyone wants Samsung or Huawei. I think Nokia under HMD Global are doing fine, they just need to improve their camera software by working with Google and come up with a better strategy and it's not because of stock Android that HMD Global isn't doing as well it's because of a lack of Strategy and how says Motorola is dumping Android One? Source please and even if they are they're irrelevant thanks to Lenovo. I hay every confidence that HMD Global will be fine once they sort out their strategy.
There is a place for stock Android. It's just not big enough for more than one OEM. Because demand is simply not there. And the moment Google itself entered the arena with their own phones, that space became occupied. The launch of the 3a just made the existence of Android One phones from other brands even more redundant. The very very few people who like stock Android will also mostly prefer to get it directly from Google. "I think Nokia under HMD Global are doing fine, they just need to improve their camera software by working with Google and come up with a better strategy and it's not because of stock Android that HMD Global isn't doing as well it's because of a lack of Strategy" They're not doing well at all. Foxconn has pulled out a lot of resources because they were constantly losing money and sales in key markets for HMD, like Europe, have been decreasing since 2017.
HMD HAS a strategy. And it's a very clear one. They deliver affordable "pure, secure and up to date" devices.
The problem is, most consumers don't like pure Android, don't believe in the "secure" part with ANY brand, and couldn't care less for the updates. "how says Motorola is dumping Android One? Source please and even if they are they're irrelevant thanks to Lenovo." All the new phones they brought to IFA were no longer Android One devices and, according to Michael Fisher, they're pulling out of the program. One assumes he asked Lenovo.
Motorola had quite a bit of brand awareness in the US market. The fact that they have failed time and again there, just goes to show that keeping stock Android around wasn't a good play. People like to get stuff for their money. They want to see the value added both in the hardware AND the software of the phone. That's why OEMs keep adding gimmicks. They know most people won't use them and we know it. But people want to be able to say they have them.
You are delusional and pulling **** out of your ass. Like this nonsense that people want skins, man you're so delusional. You're somehow got this idiotic idea that stock android is at fault, but can't accepts that HMD and Moto just aren't making good enough phones and that is why they're failing.
I mean if by "people", you mean normals, it's probably more that people don't care about "stock Android" vs. "skins".
Don't let facts and the market contradict your BS.
Sure, people loooove stock Android. The sole reason why EVERY. SINGLE. STOCK. ANDROID. phone EVER RELEASED has FAILED is because of some "conspiracy". Mate, if you want to call delusional to people, you might want to buy a mirror first.
Almost EVERY review for a Motorola phone touts the updates to 2013's Moto X software features. It's like Motorola got it right back then and really doesn't need to "innovate" in software since.
The thing is nobody knows what software their phones are running on, all the average user knows is "Samsung" or any other well known brand, for your "there's only room for one OEM for stock Android" that's wrong again, there's always room for more OEMs to use Android One, as stock Android purists were already limited to just the Pixels, Android One gives us more choice because of the price of the Pixels, the Pixel 3a and 3aXL isn't that cheap, my Nokia 8.1 is £100 cheaper than the 3a and I get pretty much the same experience as the Pixels minus the great camera. You keep saying that it's Android One that's the problem, it's not, it's HMD Global's Strategy which cost them a partner in foxconn who are only interested in profit and weren't patient enough as HMD Global are considered a startup which launched only over 3 years ago. So give them a break. You don't like stock Android we get it but you can't say that only Google should produce phones that run stock Android, that's why Android One exists. But for me Android One phones shouldn't be almost exclusively for budget and midrange phones, it should be for higher end phones. And you say "people see updates as an annoyance" not true at all people are just not aware of the importance of updates considering that there's always a new security exploit and vulnerability on Android so it's important to keep your software secure with the latest security updates and Nokia more than any other OEM outside Google and the Essential Phone are number 1 with updates having updated 96% of their phones which is impressive and Android One is a big part of why their so good with updates and vindication of their decision to go with Android One which is their best decision along with the Nokia 7 Plus and 8.1, HMD Global need to rethink their strategy and start improving their camera software to come close to matching Google's and releasing phones with better hardware specs and to finally dump eMMC storage and use UFS storage to take advantage of the the least Snapdragon 700 series SoC used for their successor to the 8.2 and 8.1 going forward, but I have every confidence in HMD Global that they'll turn things around, you need to see things more objectively DJBCS and not from just your opinion. Stock Android users may be a minority but is slowly growing because of Android One, with over 250 billion activations thanks to Android One in 2018.
Um. Yeah you're "250 billion activations thanks to Android One in 2018" is super off. There are "only" 2.5 billion active (Play Store) Android devices (source: Google via Google I/O May 2019). You're probably getting the 250 number from Android One activations up 250% year-over-year (source: Google via MWC Feb 2019). Android One isn't moving the needle overall.
Android One isn't meant to move the needle, it's meant to be and affordable alternative to Pixel phones. And it's working, please go back to your Samsung or Huawei phone or whatever you're using.
Sales prove it isn't. Otherwise Motorola wouldn't be slowing moving away from it, Google's iPixel line wouldn't be a colossal sales flop and HMD wouldn't be sinking.
Let me give you an insight into some of the facts straight away.
In 2017 Xiaomi released their first Android One phone the Mi A1, and you know what? That phone sold like hotcakes, even beating the sales margin of the previous Redmi Note 4. Despite lacking hardware and lackluster camera, that phone was all over India by Q1 2018. Xiaomi later then released a poll on Twitter asking users to choose between MIUI vs Stock Android. 43% of users polled for MIUI and the rest of 57% for Stock Android, even Stock Android wasn't there in India for long, as much MIUI, but people started to love it despite the UI being straight to basic and features less. Xiaomi later removed the poll, but a popular Indian YouTube channel posted a poll of their own, and that time nearly 80% of the users voted for Android One UI over any other except for OxygenOS. Just think, even in a country like India, which falls into Third World, started to accept a mindset Google intends their Android users to adopt.
With Mi A1 greatly affecting the sales of Xiaomi MIUI skinned phones, they had to find a way to kill their Android One series, and for that, they started their next Android One iterations to be less appealing to their customers by making them lose interests in the series, which will then eventually kill the A1 series. Where customers are still craving for Stock Android experience, companies are killing it for their own sake. Android One was always meant for the Third World, it was never intended to succeed in US and EU.
Therefore, saying that Android One is one of the reasons for HMD to lose sales, is completely false. It's HMD's own absurd decisions, worse marketing strategies, and bad business model choices, and also being a small, inexperienced and incompetent company, which has resulted in it's downfall.
HMD is just not making good phones, that's all.
You're right in that Android One was meant for India but Google was right to expand it to the US and EU as it was successful, not everyone can afford a Pixel so Android One in the US and EU males more sense and Android Go has taken the original goal of Android One and I'm glad it has. You're forgetting that the 7 Plus and 8.1 are HMD Global's best phones to date, the rest have been meh though, I'll probably just got back to Pixels with the Pixel 3a XL and if Nokia/HMD Global gets their act together I'll continue to use a Nokia as a secondary phone.
So your pathetic "evidence" is based on polls done on YouTube and blogs where only tech geeks - the MINORITY - that likes stock Android votes?
How ridiculous is that?
Mate, numbers speak for themselves. Android One sales are a flop all around. HMD hasn't been able to turn a profit but neither did Xiaomi. All those "voters" are so relevant to Xiaomi that MIUI is still around and Xiaomi does, what? ONE Android One phone? Wake up. No one likes stock Android. Otherwise the iPixels wouldn't be a flop, Android One phones wouldn't be a flop, and instead of Samsung and Huawei, the top manufacturers would be HMD and Google.
I don't know where you get the idea that most people prefer skinned software. I've honestly never heard anyone even talk positively about a software feature that was provided from a manufacturer skin in years. I've heard people complain about Android being cluttered and features on phones like Samsung causing issues and being annoying. (My mother HATES her Note 9 so much she's considering switching to Apple for the first time.) What I think is far more accurate is most consumers have no idea what a manufacturer skin is or how it affects updates. People aren't turning away from Android One phones because they desire manufacturer software features. It's been a few years, but I used to sell phones for Verizon and I'm telling you, only nerds like us even consider things like that. Most people who I was able to talk into lightly skinned or unskinned phones did thank me for it though. When people actually see the fast updates and clean, uncluttered software experience, they actually love it. But to the average user, it's a difficult difference to explain. Motorola dropped Android One because consumers don't know what it means, so they can't use it to sell phones and it adds extra work for them. But it costs them positive word of mouth from people who buy their products and press buzz from reviewers. That's why they're experimenting with dropping it, not dropping it completely. They're trying to gauge whether the savings gained from dropping Android One will be countered by the reduction of positive feedback from some reviews and customers. It's purely a business decision. To be honest, I'm curious what huge software advantage you think these Samsung, Xiaomi and Huawei phones actually have. I'm typing this on a Huawei and I haven't been impressed with the software at all. I've largely replaced pretty much everything from the keyboard to the launcher, messaging app, even the camera app, because I found them annoying.
Pay no attention to DJBCS , he's anti stock Android and Google so he'll always use the "people don't care about stock Android" excuse in this case for HMD Global releasing too many lackluster phones this year. The 7 Plus and the 8.1 (my phone) the best phones they've released but their poor naming scheme and poor market strategy and releasing phones using dated SoCs is why they're struggling because Android one (which is their best decision) and their record with updates are some positives but it's not enough if they don't have a coherent strategy, they need to reduce the number of phones they release.
Don't let numbers, reality or the fact that I'm constantly right about these things when it comes to Nokia get in the way of your "it's just DJCBS being anti-Google" mantra, mate ;)
You've always had a problem with stock Android, especially with the Pixels yes stock Android Isn't for everyone, I get that and yes stock Android will probably never be as popular as a non stock Android phone, but it doesn't need to be either., Stock Android has the features that I care about, and which is a clean UI and is as Google intended which means only Google apps and services and no horrid OEM skins on top, no unnecessary OEM apps and services that are inferior to Google's which means faster updates which means my phone is always secure and as for Nokia (HMD Global) their problem isn't Android One, it's their poor naming and marketing strategy and using dated hardware for their most recent phones in fact, the 7 Plus, 8.1 (my current phone) and Android One are the only things that HMD Global have gotten right, because if they hadn't gone with Android One,I would not have gone with Nokia (HMD Global) who will be ok if they can fire a lot of their marketing department and improve their cameras, I'm having to use a GCam port to get good photos from my camera on my 8.1 and that's yet another problem with HMD Global right now.of things don't turn around for them I'll be going back to the Pixel. And before you say I'm an American DJBCS, I'm not, I'm British, where Nokia also has a lot of love thanks to Android One.
"I don't know where you get the idea that most people prefer skinned software." I'm pretty sure sales speak for themselves. There has NEVER been a successful stock Android phone worldwide. Ever. Not even when they had the Google Play Editions of popular flagships.
There's not a single OEM on the top 5 worldwide that uses stock Android. The fastest growing Android brands all use the most heavily modified version of Android in existence (Samsung, Huawei and Xiaomi). I'm pretty sure that's enough evidence. "I've heard people complain about Android being cluttered and features on phones like Samsung causing issues and being annoying." I, on the other hand, have only ever heard this from tech bloggers. Never from average consumers. "What I think is far more accurate is most consumers have no idea what a manufacturer skin is or how it affects updates." Most people couldn't care less about updates. That's the reality of it. To them, updates are an annoyance. And the monthly placebo updates are even worse. They already hated that on Windows, now they have to put up with that on their phones as well? No, thank you. "People aren't turning away from Android One phones because they desire manufacturer software features. It's been a few years, but I used to sell phones for Verizon and I'm telling you, only nerds like us even consider things like that." See...there's your problem. You're doing the US=World thing. The American market works apart from the rest of the World. Starting with the way people buy phones. In Europe for example, we go to normal tech retailer to buy our phones. We see them on display, we play around with them, we choose whatever we like best, we pay for it up front, we walk out of the store. Carriers have zero interference in the process unless you specifically want to. The moment you switch to such a kind of market: where offerings aren't limited to what the carrier picked, customers start picking the phones based on what they like and don't like about what they see when they try them. "To be honest, I'm curious what huge software advantage you think these Samsung, Xiaomi and Huawei phones actually have. I'm typing this on a Huawei and I haven't been impressed with the software at all. I've largely replaced pretty much everything from the keyboard to the launcher, messaging app, even the camera app, because I found them annoying." They offer more to people. Be it on the customisation side or on the features side like one handed mode, various navigation methods, extra buttons, device cleaning tools, etc.
I specifically said from the 3 I only like Samsung's approach to software. So I will only tell you why I think OneUI is far better than stock Android. I would agree with you on Huawei for example. I hate their software mostly because it tries to emulate the worst of Apple (that dumb iTunes.wanna-be program they force you to use to manage the phone is ridiculous). I also replaced pretty much everything on the P30 apart from the camera app 'cause that's the only great one on the phone. Now when it comes to OneUI you have a lot of advantages over stock. Starting with the concept behind it. The entire UI is designed to bring the elements down to the bottom of the screen. In an age of oversized cricket bats, stock Android is a nightmare to use with one hand.
Then you have one handed mode itself. I think I don't need to tell you why that's an advantage of OneUI (and EMUI to be fair).
Then there's the customisation features. Each person is a person and we don't all share the same tastes. You might enjoy Google's designs and colour schemes for example. I loathe them. Stock Android doesn't let me do much about it. OneUI lets me change almost entirely everything. Including making the phone look like a stock Android phone.
And there's also the quality of use features like, for example, the ability to calibrate the colour of your display to what suits you best instead of being stuck to a couple of pre-set display modes.
You have Samsung's Always-On display which is far better than stock Android's.
You have the quick settings which actually work properly instead of forcing you to go dive into the system settings to activate stuff.
And so on and so forth. You are right. Motorola will test dropping Android One. And once they realise that consumers won't buy their phones any less because of it, they'll drop it completely.
If Samsung released the S11 with stock it would be hugely successful. Because Samsung. I don't think most consumers care whether the phone runs stock or skin. They just want good battery live and a good camera at the particular price point they are shopping.
DJBCS you're just talking from your opinion, stock Android will always have a loyal faithful no matter where they live in the world and while we Android purists are a minority, it's enough of a user base for phones like Android One and Pixels to warrant their existence.
You are just saying this from your perspective I mean i m from India and here lots of people buy nokia cause they trust this brand and here people don't like to buy OVERPRICED NON INNOVATING SMARTPHONE LIKE APPLE so what this people are doing is to revive the brand first cause they have to have a enough money to spend on something big even if it falls then the company won't fall at once....
This comment is big steaming pile of ********. Android One is the last problem Nokia has. Maybe YOU are in a minority, since most people like Android One or don't care if it's stock or not. The problem with HMD and Nokia ir not good enough phones and software bugs, nothing else.
I'm still happy with my Nokia 8 Sirocco. Bought it almost a year ago and totally satisfied: great design, gorgeous software and decent hardware. And still there was no iteration of this device, and it's awesome for me: I hate when the company releases a slightly improved phone every year.
I'd be quite happy with a phone that's "good enough," at a great price, with a Qualcomm X55 5G modem, and Android One. I'm expecting to see this early 2020.
Agreed on all points
The only true HMD-Nokia flagship was the Nokia 8 Sirocco.
Well, I love my Nokia 7.1 and the uncluttered Android One experience. I.won't be upgrading until late 2020 but it will certainly be another Nokia.
Same here. Love the Nokia 7.1.
You can surely tell when a phone reviewer does not live in the United States and know what people here want. The Android One program has been a complete Savior for me and if I cannot get my hands on a pure Android device without buying a Pixel, will be the last time I have a Android phone.
Being a Nokia Windows Phone fanboy I felt completely burned by the Nokia 9 and can't see myself giving that brand a chance again. Too much about that phone simply felt off. The camera while competent was awfully slow and the software was woefully unfinished out of the box. The bezels were needlessly huge. The fingerprint scanner was obnoxiously bad (I use a OnePlus 6T and find that experience more than satisfying). The vibration motor while strong and sharp just made the oddly hollow-ish nature of the phones' weighting and build more apparent. With all these issues how did it take so long to come to market? I also don't see myself ditching Oxygen OS > Android One. 🤷‍♂️
You're just a good example of the problem facing HMD. People who were Nokia customers before can tell the massive difference in quality both hardware AND software wise. For all its shortcomings, Windows Phone as done by Nokia was polished, innovative and worked well. Plus the cameras were the best on any smartphone.
HMD phones fail to deliver both that innovative software experience (there's nothing innovative about an Android experience years behind the competition), and the quality hardware. That's why HMD sales in Europe were great in 2017 on launch and then quickly fell. Like you, most people went to get a Nokia phone because they knew what the company stood for...and were met with a mediocre device unable to live up to the legacy of the brand it carries.
I totally agree with Nokia's Android One approach but they should have never tried to couple that with a crazy camera that relies so much on extra software (kind of defeats the point). I really do love Oxygen OS though. Pretty much for the better gestures and increased spacing around icons (I'm an OCD graphic designer by trade and this **** bothers me more than most). But I honestly prefer Android One to Samsung's skin. I really believe that Android skins should focus on refining the basics rather than adding a ton of random utilities that add dubious value. But to each their own.
Tried stockish Android before and used to be obsessed with it until I tried my first Huawei device. Fell instantly in love with all the features it has over any Pixel or stock phones to date (save for OnePlus phones) and never looked back. I just throw the latest Lawnchair version on it and get both feature-rich EMUI and a nice simple launcher experience. Best of both worlds.
https://nokiamob.net/2019/07/31/nokia-smartphone-sales-rebound-with-4-8-... Nokia doing better but not even close to the big boys. I do love my Nokia 8.1 though, it's reliable, great camera, battery and design except that notch. But I feel HMD Global is very inexperienced when it comes to software as many of the phones are riddled with so many bugs
Those are not sales, they're shipments ;)
Also...they're selling as many Android phones as Nokia was selling Lumias...that's hardly good numbers. HMD isn't inexperienced when it comes to software. HMD simply doesn't do anything on that department. They rely heavily on Google to deliver the software through the Android One program and then their ODM partners are left in charge of putting the software they get from Google unto the phones. So every time Google f**ks up, HMD phones also get f**ked up.
If Nokia Windows Phones were so great why can't I buy one anymore?
Windows phone was never a very popular os even though it had a small but very loyal fan base of which I was one. The demise of Windows phone is on Microsoft not Nokia.
Go back to razors and stop trying to pawn off a good design with a poor processor.

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