In 2015 I'm excited about a BlackBerry again

I, like many others, cut my smartphone teeth in the world of Windows Mobile and BlackBerry. In my case it was mostly the latter, and I can, happily, say that I carried one of the Waterloo company's phones in my arsenal up until just over 2 years ago.

But, now, in 2015, my personal excitement for BlackBerry has returned all thanks to the Priv. I won't lie, I really don't like the name. But the phone looks fantastic. Mostly due to Android.

My last experience of a BlackBerry was the Z10. It replaced my much loved, much abused Bold 9900 which remains one of my all time favorite smartphones to this day. BlackBerry OS 7 was the Achilles heel, but I adored the 9900. It was so close to the old Bold 9000.


BlackBerry 10 has it's good points, but ultimately it's not for me. I found I could use it, but I didn't particularly enjoy the experience. And since the Z10 was just another black slab with a touchscreen, I'd lost one of the things I clung to most from having a BlackBerry in one pocket. So I stopped using it and haven't picked up another BlackBerry since.

In 2015 it looks like I'll be able to get back what I lost without the compromises I wasn't prepared to make. Android — regular, untampered Android, at that — with BlackBerry's legendary keyboard. Take my money. Take it now.

BlackBerry, to me at least, hasn't struggled with the hardware, or even design really in recent years. What's been the problem has been the same thing that afflicts Microsoft, too: Software. Allowing Android apps into BlackBerry — funnily enough, something Microsoft is now doing, albeit in a different way — was a stop gap, but a couple of years ago the experience was horrid. I've not tried it since, but just slapping an app designed to work with one OS into another never felt like a good user experience to me.

So, what we're getting with the Priv — still don't like the name — is the best of both worlds. BlackBerry hardware with the company's legendary physical keyboard and Google's Android. And this is all before we really know, well, anything at all about the phone.

All we need now is the phone. Hurry up, BlackBerry. We're waiting.

  • As a former BlackBerry enthusiast, I wish them them well. I used to defend them for years, but I have absolutely no interest in their products anymore. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Why don't you have any interest in their devices anymore? Posted via Android Central App
  • At the time, I remember being constantly irritated by the company's broken promises. This was in addition to the fact that I couldn't access any of the apps that I really wanted (this should be fixed with this phone), the constant delays of the Z10, and the fact that it was seriously overhyped when it finally did arrive. I bought a PlayBook because they said it would be updated to BB10, but of course that was also a lie. Add to that the fact that the security talking point was all hype. I just got to the point where I was sick and tired of defending them to my friends while spending the same amount of money that I would spend for a top tier android or IOS device. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Ya, I would've have ditched them like 4 years ago. But at least they're adopting android now. It'll make things a bit more interesting.
  • + 1. You will grow old and die Waiting for blackberry to fix something. Posted via the Android Central App
  • +1. I was once a BlackBerry fan until they burned me with their lies. I'm happy to see that they're trying to improve but that ship has long sailed for me. I'll never buy another BlackBerry again. Posted from my GALAXY Note 4
  • You make a lot of good points especially the broken promises and the overhyped PlayBook that I also own which lays thrown in a drawer. So far I'm still true to BlackBerry but if things don't get better with the upcoming Priv, I'll be switching to Samsung.
  • Blackberry made me so angry with their Playbooks. I bought 2 of them when they promised updates and never delivered. Their Blackberry 9900 was PLAGUED with bugs and issues. Never fixed. I have owned the 8100, 8300, 8800, 9000, 9500 and it's predecessor, 9900 and the 2 playbooks we have collecting dust that aren't even worth ebaying 30 euros.... That company has made me SOOOOOOOOO mad. I am looking forward to their blackberry android device, but the problem is: They're going to drop support ASAP. They won't update, and if they do, it'll take YEARS. They are not a consumer based company. They throw out a product and update it for a few weeks or maybe a few months, and then they're done with you. You'll be lucky to get MAJOR ISSUES fixed; let alone small quirks in the software. That's why I highly doubt I'll buy another Blackberry device again. Mobile phones aren't a one time use and throw out device. It's an investment that requires maintenance by both the users and the company to keep it working well. No device launches flawlessly, and companies must work hard to iron out those bugs. This is not synonymous with Blackberry. Or at least in the past....
  • question. if you were so mad and kept getting burned, why'd you go back? did u have to use em for work? cause if not, why not simply ditch them for something else like so many have?
  • You're joking, right? Android TODAY is nothing like Android of 2007. In fact, Android was released in 2008. And Android SUCKED for the first few years. So if you wanted an efficient and powerful way to communicate with people, emails, etc. You needed a Blackberry or Windows Phone. Windows Phone was a data hog, and Blackberry was ULTRA efficient. Nowadays, it doesn't make a difference with network speeds (since EDGE was the only possibility back then for most phones). So Blackberry's compression was second to none. Then, iPhone and Android came out with their lackluster dual language support (Android today with its multiple keyboards can do multiple language input, iOS can't, I think... Maybe with newer keyboards since last year they can, but it wasn't an option in 2007-2010). You're comparing Android TODAY to Blackberry THEN. You can't do that. Blackberry was the best way back when for communication. Nowadays, it's all about the apps! haha. And updates. So yeah, today, the way we use our phones have changed. I wouldn't say I'm so mad. I'm just very distrustful of a company with whom I'd been with over many years. I saw their strategy and their policy. If they launch the Priv and in 6 months or 1 year they continue to update, yay! I'll go for the Priv 2 or maybe even the Priv itself! But I'm not willing to spend so much cash on a device that might be DOA because of their lackluster support and dedication to their consumers (a well documented case over the years).
  • I probably confused playbook for passport, and was under the assumption you were on bb much more recently. and I never compared 07 bb and android. I made the switch in 2011, didn't have a reason to switch before then.
  • Hold on there son. The world of smartphones was #1 Palm, #2 Blackberry, distant #3 Windows, prior to the launch of the iphone and then android phones. Blackberry was the only real choice for secure business emails. That is all. Most of the phones in the office I worked at and consulted for were Palm, from 1997-2006. The guys with Windows phones were the first to jump on the new iphone in 2007-2008. At that time I was sporting a Treo 750, and did not even look at the iphone, because of the itunes debacle. My son bought a Palm Pre, about the same time I bought a Nexus one in 2010.
  • I miss palm sometimes. Posted via the Android Central App
  • the pre was amazing as was webos in general, i loved my touchpad
  • Fair enough the Playbook was a bit of a disaster in terms of promises and updates. But you really can't say that about BB10. They have innovated with the OS by bringing features that Google and Apple have gone and copied. They've updated devices that were released way back in 2013. Apart from Nexuses, name any other Android devices that old that have been updated from 2013 that have been promised or are already running Marshmallow. I'm all for the Priv. I can't wait for it myself but it's people like you that have a distorted view of BlackBerry that bring a bitter taste to their possible future success. Shouldn't we look at the adoption of a new OS (to the company) as a fresh start? Posted via the Android Central App
  • This is so true. The Playbook was a disaster.. Noone can deny that. They *promised* BB10 on the thing, but the problem was that it just didn't sell well enough. Management was crazy during that time too, Thorsten came in as the new CEO and BB10 was still so new. It really is a shame that so many people 100% write-off this device because they got *burned* by the PlayBook as it wasn't updated. The device just didn't sell enough for them to put any more into it, how much can you expect a company to support a dead piece of hardware that noone was buying? BB10 is a much better example to look at when it comes to updates. And they have been phenomenal with that. @ruhban touched on the main points.. They have released the newest updates to the first ever BB10 device, the Z10. BlackBerry knows software and hardware. They are transitioning over to a software company from a primarily hardware company aswell. They aren't going to just let the software die on the backburner here.. They don't even have to update an ENTIRE OS like they did with BB10. They will probably push out more timely updates to the OS than they ever did with BB10, and with BB10, the only bottleneck was the carriers.. If you weren't afraid to install leaks, they were constantly updating the OS across their entire device portfolio. +1
  • i'm buy playbook for $200+25$ for cover then sell it 180$ after 6month. basicly i rent playbook 45$ for 6month. and not bad for hardware, and disaster for OS. back then i really find a way to install android on my playbook but i cannot find the way LOL
  • I understand your frustration but you act like Android and iOS don't have their problems. I mean, Apple still have problems making the same device for 8 years. Bending problems, antenna problems, software update problems, battery problems, and not mentioned their recalls. Android has their problems too. BlackBerry is a private company and they have their strengths and weaknesses like everyone else. I wish BlackBerry well, even tho I disagree with Chen on a lot. But they are hanging in there. I hope this gets them back in the game. I'd hate to only have two competitive OS'
    Good luck BlackBerry!!
  • Wouldn't the Priv still mean there are only two competitive OS's? Unless you mean that the Priv helps generate enough revenue for them and they are able to make (and sell) more BB10 devices? That I certainly hope for as well. ~TheRealFixxxer
  • You sound like a teenager
  • Even running Android?
  • Running Android should be a big improvement. Posted via the Android Central App
  • You have obviously not used a BlackBerry on 10.3.2. Posted via the Android Central App
  • That's true. My last BB was the 9930 and I left in frustration after BB10 was delayed like the 3rd time. The truth is that it was the best thing I could've done and I have zero interest in 10.3. Without any developer support, a smartphone is completely irrelevant. There are a lot of diehard BlackBerry fans and I gotta give them credit... It takes a whole lot of dedication (or naivete) to continue to purchase BlackBerrys when everyone knows that the BlackBerry comeback is a myth. I wish it weren't true, but it is. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Your experience with a BlackBerry dates back to a device from 2011 and you profess to know anything about BlackBerry in 2015. Consider Android , Apple or comparable Windows devices of 2011 how would they compare to anything today? I'll stack my Passport, released in 2014, running 10.3.2 and the magnificent BlackBerry HUB against any mobile device released to date. (Google user reviews and specs) I am hopeful the BlackBerry experience apps for Android, when released, help my Tab Pro. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I think we may have a misunderstanding, so please allow me to clarify. I would never want to compare BlackBerry phones, or any others, from 2011 to the phones of today. That would be a completely unfair comparison. I was merely explaining my point of view concerning BlackBerry phones and why I'd never want one again. I'm glad that you're happy with your Passport and the hub, but I'm not quite sure which phone you'd like to compare it to and where you think you'd come out on top. You may be right in saying that the newer BlackBerry 10.3.2 is the smoothest and most efficient OS in existence. It doesn't matter because without significant developer interest, BlackBerry can't be competitive in the consumer market. This wouldn't be a problem except the consumer market demand is currently dictating mobile hardware solutions in the enterprise, to a large degree. When you compound this problem with the fact that BlackBerry (the company) doesn't have a lot of goodwill, outside of its base, and the lack of vision about how to overcome this problem, one can conclude that BlackBerry is irrelevant. They can produce an android phone and could potentially be competitive in the future; however, that is a steep uphill battle and it is filled with a ton of competitors trying to get on thin margins. At best, BlackBerry may carve a niche for themselves in this space, but I think this android experiment is temporary and they won't support the device over the long term, which will further degrade their reputation. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I doubt it. Posted via the Android Central App
  • This would sell for $299 Posted via the Android Central App
  • If it's 299 unlocked, it will be doa. This better be min $650. Go hard or go home
  • No it will be DOA if it's over $500. 
  • I disagree.. Regardless, I hope the quality is top notch. No shortcuts
  • Quality, build quality I'm sure you mean, will be top notch. But I don't think I'd pay 500 euros for another DOA blackberry device that'll never receive an update to fix major issues. Blackberry has a TERRIBLE track record. Even with Android, if they don't fix issues in the future, then they're DOA. The BB Passport is 600+ euros NOW 16 months AFTER release. I doubt this will be under 500 euros. It'll be 700 most likely.
  • Man blackberry has failed on everything but this update thing is getting old. I never even had the z10, but go read about it that phone updated well after it was launched. I have no idea what you are talking about. They update their phones just fine. No one updates their phones forever.
  • I suppose it must be with their BB10 OS, because on my BB 9900 that thing never saw an update. In fact, it was SO buggy with random restarts after 2 months I got rid of it. And my playbook that was promised updates? Never saw the updates that were promised. I'd give the Priv a chance, but a second gen one, after seeing how Blackberry handles the issues. This is their first Android device, it'll have issues just like Samsung or HTC on launch day! So... Yeah, let's see how they handle it :) And regardless, if I'm presented with BB or an iphone for the same price, I'll always go iPhone just because I KNOW how i'll be treated in the future. It's not a random coin in the air like my previous devices... Regardless, Android is my more my style xD
  • Have had 6 updates on my q10 that I can remember. Two on my passport. The o.s has been rad since 10.2.1 and the android run time has been great since 10.3.1. What's annoyingly missing is google play services. Other than that the devices are unrivalled at what they're built for. Typing, Calls, emailing, messaging, security. All those things consumers don't prioritise when choosing a phone.
  • Clearly you've never owned a blackberry.
    The Q10 is now useless because of the small fonts and icons and low sound issue that never got fixed. Not to mention them forcing their screen brightness standards down your throat.
  • Say what? They took the box out of the icons and I'll agree it did get smaller but unusable is a bit extreme. My 7 year old daughter uses my old q10 just fine and so did I. You go into it knowing that the screen is small that's the whole point of the phone compact. Sound issue never had that problem my q10 it's the same as its always been. I'm assuming that you had a problem and I get that it happens but that doesn't mean every phone has the problems that you had. That's like saying every android device samsung, moto, lg ext: have problems because your having problems with your's and that's just not the case. None of the phones made are perfect some will always have problems that's life Posted via Android Central App
  • With the way that phone prices are going (outside of apple) those super high prices are not the norm anymore. This doesn't have any real "high end" specs. I mean essentially it has similar internals to the nexus 5x and look at the price it is selling for. Selling this at $650 or more will be a huge fail.
  • No specs?....18mp camera , 3gig ram, 32 gig memory and latest Qualcomm processer Posted via the Android Central App
  • Lol wut? Posted via the Android Central App
  • I'm not sure you've fully grasped how economics works... BlackBerry don't have the rep to sell a phone for that kind of money anymore. Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • You don't have you be sure. All you need to know is quality (build quality) will sell this device. To argue over $150+- price point is pathetic. And if you like scavenge around in bargain bin that's totally your call.. But this device needs to be premium if it wants dent the north American market. And they better be good with updates. If they abandon it for focus on a new device, that's it. Bb is done.
  • They could compete with the midrange, bit that would be very tricky. I see this at about $600 top end, but on the lower side. Kind of like the new Nexus. Posted via the Android Central App
  • No. BB can't try to reenter the market that forgot it at a premium price. To do so would be shutting the doors for good. Common sense. Posted via the Android Central App
  • yet u know they'll charge $700 for it!! there's a reason they are where they are. I'm rooting for them, but I think we can see what's coming.
  • The Passport should cost much more than $499, but it only costs $499. If Apple or Samsung made a similar device with the same specs, materials and build quality, Apple would charge $1099 and Samsung would charge $800.
  • Susie soccer mom customer comes in the cellphone store and wants to buy the new Blackberry Priv. Like the majority of the country, she's living check to check, always looking for bargains and cutting coupons. She assumes the Priv will be expensive because all high end phones are but she wants it and is willing to sacrifice because she's excited to have a blackberry again. Her sale is being processed and she asks the sales rep to tell her what the damages are. He replies, "299 dollars!" She glares at the rep and tells him not to insult her like that and if the phone isn't $650 she refuses to buy it. And she storms out phoneless.
    Yea that's how it's gonna play out across the country if the Priv is $299.
  • LOL, not even. Not sure where you get your marketing sense from but that isn't how it works. You painted the iPhone customer perfectly, but not someone who would consider a Blackberry. They don't have the same street cred that they use too. Most average users will barely remember them. For starters, it isn't going to sell for 299, but if it did, people would be satisfied with that price and Blackberry may actually have chance of selling a lot of them at that price, but Blackberry is going to sell them for too much and not sell nearly enough. Truth is, Susie would happily pay 299, then tell everyone it was a $700 high end phone. Thats just how Susie rolls.
  • I've always loved their hardware. to this day kevlar is my favorite material for a phone, and I always wondered why more OEMs didn't use it more often. obviously android, specifically stock, is my favorite OS. I preordered the 6p so I might not jump out of my seat and throw money at the Venice (i refuse to mention its real name, especially when its code name is awesome), but I'm definitely more interested in BlackBerry now than I have been in 5 years.
  • As to which phone to get is one of personal preference at a period in once life. Unfortunately there's not one device that fits all our needs. Right now apps availability, security, and keyboard will drive me to look at the upcoming Priv. By the way i could careless what the name it will finally be.
  • Well said. So often people get all cranky at what device someone else likes or prefers. Enjoy all the options and if a specific device works well for your needs then awesome! I know my priorities for a device have changed drastically as my life has changed through the years. The phone I have now would have been a no no even 2 years ago.
  • I loved bb once, but booting took forever alone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Booting no longer takes "forever". BB10, especially recently, has taken care of that.
  • Bb10 still takes a lot longer than other os's. The reason it takes longer though is because it ensures that the hardware and software hasn't been compromised. Posted via Android Central App
  • Why the concern about boot time? I've never thought of that as an issue or feature of any device. Do you reboot a lot?
  • Same here on all points. I would seriously consider the Priv if it wasn't a slider. I prefer all touch now that I've been using it for the past 3½ years. I hope this device is successful, though, since more competition is good for consumers. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I agree the keyboard is only legendary because of the alternative back then (remember pecking the # pad) otherwise Jobs was right, mother F those miniature keys!
  • Well jobs didn't like the keyboard because it took up screen realestate. Well now we have a phone (much bigger than 3inches) with no compromise for a keyboard taking up space. Posted via Android Central App
  • I concur, no interest in their products. Posted via the Android Central App
  • If BlackBerry doesn't price this phone absurdly high and really commits to software updates , this could very well mark a turnaround for them.
  • This is my biggest concern for this device as well. Pricing needs to be reasonable for blackberry to make any footprint at all Posted via the Android Central App
  • Define "absurdly high"
  • I completely agree with you. I had a Bold 9900 for awhile, and it was very nice hardware. I felt nice in the hand, the screen looked great, the touch was responsive, and the buttons felt solid. I've always felt instead of wasting efforts on BB10, they should have built off of Android, and focus on enterprise-level applications. Hopefully this BB Android phone takes that hardware quality, and goes with a near vanilla Android experience, with fast updates.
  • Loved that phone so much. The Z10 was such a massive let down after it.
  • The half baked BlackBerry 10 OS when the Z10 was released was a let down not the Z10 hardware. Then the carriers completely F'd BlackBerry users on updates. My Z10 on 10.3.2 runs excellent and it's 2 plus years old. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I love the premium feel of mine also. I remember when I got my Nexus one to replace it that while I loved the software I felt like the step down in quality was pretty drastic.
  • If they launch this like every other phone in the past decade, here's how it will go down. It'll be very overpriced (aka Sony) and will take way too long to actually hit the market. Everything, from launch to software updates, will face delays. The company is a model of incompetence in this area. That being said, the phone itself and the software do look intriguing. I'm definitely curious.
  • The curve 9300 was my first smart phone ever Posted via the Android Central App
  • It looks like it doesn't have a fingerprint scanner. What modern flagship phone lacks a fingerprint scanner anymore? Even the new Nexus has one, and Nexus phones are the last to get any modern feature.
  • And yet, the Nexus line is the epitome of consistent performance. Oh and updates. Hehe Delivered by my Shamu
  • If you buy BlackBerry unlocked as I have my Z30 and Passport all updates come direct. Posted via the Android Central App
  • You mean first.. They get almost everything first. Not last.
  • Well, they do get the buggy Android versions first, I'll give you that. But other phones have had fingerprint sensors for a long time. Heck, a Motorola phone had it in 2011. Nexus still won't have it until the new phones ship.
  • yawn, the tomato has gone splat!!
  • Meh, Rogue tomato has been rotting for awhile Delivered by my Shamu
  • Gotta say he is mostly right. Nexus gets to beta test the software but a lot of the hardware stuff others do first. Now some of that is to keep costs down but not being on the leading edge but some is lazy. +++ Insert witty signature, watch as others not get it, profit +++
  • Thing is, the costs aren't kept down very much on the nexus now, the 6P isn't far off the big flagships price wise, at least not here in the UK. And what's its selling point? Speedy updates? The OEMs are getting better and better, and as stated the early builds are often highly buggy. Say what you will about the nexus 4 (and I know you will!) but when it launched it was a dirt cheap powerhouse, nothing matched it in terms of power. I know "specs don't matter" but what does the 6P do that it's competitors don't do as well or better? I'm struggling to see what the point of the nexus is anymore... Man, that was a bit ranty, but quite cathartic! Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • Here's the deal, and what some non Nexus fans just don't understand. When somebody likes stock, they obsess over it. I admittedly have OCD and am borderline unreasonable about certain things. For instance, on an iPhone you can't remove the text below icons, well that would drive me nuts. people think I'm a lunatic, which might be true, but the fact remains that I simply won't buy an iPhone for that reason. same deal with Nexus. I hate clutter (as I interpret it) and despise carrier branding. I like clean and simple, no bells, no whistles. people make great arguments, like how if Verizon had an app that I hated, I'd complain about it and call it bloat, which is correct. take that same exact app, put the word Google in front of it with a new icon, and suddenly it's not bloat. now that makes 0 sense and makes me look like an idiot. but it's just how I feel, and when it comes down to anything we buy as consumers, how we feel is what's most important. that feeling of having a device that's untampered with, that's running Android with no interference from a carrier or OEM, is 90% of why most people get a Nexus, so things like wireless charging and OIS can easily be overlooked. the Nexus 4 was more the exception than the rule. it and the Nexus 5 led people to forget about the previous models, and assume that all Nexus phones are cheap. it amazes me (and I'm not saying this about you personally) how people literally rattle off every single feature and spec imaginable, and then say they want it for the same price as the Nexus 5. or that they want this and that, finally get it, and say it doesn't have OIS, without seeing a single photo or knowing a thing about camera technology! but yeah, stock is a big deal for some, and just like I don't get how somebody can drive around in a dirty car without washing it all summer, they probably don't get why I waste my Sunday mornings waxing a car that was just cleaned a week ago! (had to get a car reference in there somewhere!)
  • I actually agree with you about wanting a clean (near) stock experience (or at least I used to before Google started taking it in a direction I don't like), but the nexus line just isn't the only place to get that anymore. While you're right that the nexus line wasn't always cheap, they did have leading specs and features, albeit with compromised attached. It seems like you're saying you think Google set the bar too high with the 4 and 5... You might be right. I considered myself a nexus fan, but I'm not a fan boy, I'm not going to blindly love them when I can't see anything special about them... Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • A couple of comments back you mentioned that OEM's and carriers are catching up to Nexus in terms of Update speeds. Well that's rudiculious. Moto is the only one that's comparable and they're still a minimum of a month behind with major updates. The rest are far worse. And there's that exclusive feature you're looking for in the nexus line. It's the only brand on android that can compete with Apple in this regard. Most other Android devices are running technically outdated software for 2/3rd's of their lifespan.
  • No, I said the OEMs are getting better, you really think they're not? I never mentioned the "carriers" for a few reasons, the strongest of which is that I think they're the single biggest hold up on updates, and are bad for consumers when it comes to devices, which is why I don't, and won't, buy devices from them. I don't mind being contradicted, or even proven wrong, but please don't try to put words into my mouth. The nexus devices may be the only ones that are updated as reliably as Apple, I don't know, but "compete" is the wrong word. Samsung are the real Apple competitor. Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • No, I don't think they're getting better. Everyone but Moto still usually takes 3-6 months or longer to push out OS updates. Once they do there's atleast 1 newer update that nexus is already on. Fragmentation on android is still a huge issue even among the portion that adheres to google's guidelines. I just saw that you didn't say carriers. My bad. Yes, they make much worse than most OEM's already do. I said Nexus is the only Android brand able to compete with apple "in this regard" just so you know
  • definitely agree about not being loyalty blind. if it has what I want, I don't care if it's Samsung, HTC, or even iPhone. you're on the Nexus forums, so you know I've been saying for 5 months that stock (or close to it), battery, front speakers and quick charge are my 4 biggest priorities. it just so happens the Nexus has what I'm after. wireless charging and fingerprint sensor are two things I can live without. and other than the black bar with htc, aesthetics isn't something that would ever prevent me from buying a phone. had the pure gotten better reviews in the battery department, I'd most likely have one. other than price, what is it about the 6p that you don't like? I get the wireless charging and OIS, but other than that it seems to be an awesome phone. the two biggest complaints about Nexus had always been the battery and camera, and from what we've heard from some pretty reliable sources, those are two much improved areas this year. assuming that turns out to be true, I really couldn't have asked for much more. and the 810 will hopefully be a non issue. I have a Nexus 6, so the 6p will be used mostly for work, so it won't get pushed all that hard in the media department, so I'm really not that concerned about overhearing.
  • I'll be honest, price is a big sticking point for me (we're getting a bit gouged over here) the 6P is also a bit bigger than I'd like and I'm not happy with the amount of RAM they put in there (I would've put 3 GB/4 GB in the 5X/6P) for me I think the oneplus 2 is probably a better option... I'm not convinced about the battery until we hear real world reports. Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • It's not blind love. It's giving us what we want. But after the Nexus 5, Google has been off its game. Too big, questionable device specs, no wireless charging.. So most fans are sticking with Nexus 5 until maybe Google gets it right next year.
  • most? I don't think "most" fans are willing the bet that 2016 will be different all because of wireless charging. and most people nowadays prefer larger displays. a good amount of people don't, but if the demand for smaller displays was so high, why aren't there more on the market?
  • This guy gets it! And Nexus intros new Android features. Features that will be on all devices soon, and they work. Not like trying to screen cast on a gs6 or Moto X. It's actually supported and works as intended.
  • yup, he's right that it's getting a fingerprint sensor and that any new OS has some bugs to smooth out. ground breaking find right there! M isn't gonna have nearly as many issues as LP did since it's more of an improvement than a new OS. personally, I think Android should release a new OS when needed, instead of having to use it as a marketing tool every year. I get why that'll never happen, but in general, I wish they took their time and perfected existing software rather than creating more.
  • Actually, he does have a point Nexus devices are the only devices to have developer previews to squash bugs. Sometimes, even finished builds have bugs, so people who have Nexus devices typically find these bugs first and can squash them for the next release. Kinda like a blessing in disguise Here lies the "2016 Flagship Killer". It got slayed by 2015 flagships like the LG G4 being used to post this.
  • I drink from the fountain of Stock Android and it is good. ViVa Stock Android!!!!! Posted via the Android Central App
  • That's the argument? You're aware the Nexus 6 was supposed to have it.. Read up about that, not here to teach you everything. Nexus leads the pack.. Samsung as of late has been leading as well.
  • Yeah, I can remember when that was true... Happy days. Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • G_d save us from fingerprint scanner !
    One day, some will realize that having a non modifiable (means : forever valid) personal credential is a VERY VERY bad idea.
    Ask those 5K people whose fingerprints were stolen (OPM). I sincerely hope for them they'll never be forced (again) to use that for any purpose.
    Because their "safe" is now open to thousands of hackers, their identity can be used to fool cops.
    Security is binding by nature. Gadgets are a wound that can be more harm than good.
  • lost me at BlackBerry.. Everything that company touches turns to crap Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's an interesting device. I've never owned a BlackBerry and won't get this one, but I genuinely hope this device succeeds and keeps whatever's left of the company afloat. Wubba lubba dub dub!
  • I went from a G3 to a blackberry classic. Then 2 months later I was back on android. I couldn't stand not having any apps. But the time I spent with the keyboard was awesome. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Did you ever try porting any apps? How'd that work if you did? Posted via the Android Central App
  • I actually side loaded an app call Snap. It let you download apps directly from Google Play. It wasn't at all hard to do and worked surprisingly well, but I would say most of the apps that I use day to day wouldn't run without Google Play Services. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Cant blame you, Its about time that Blackberry joined android.
  • The need to make a Nexus version BlackBerry Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not so keen on the harsh corners in their newer phones.
    It makes them stand out, I suppose, but the nice thing about Bolds was that they were beautifully ergonomic. Built for a hand.
  • Have you tried holding an S6 Edge? That has smooth corners and you literally cannot type on it using two hands holding each side. You've got to type on it holding it like a 50 year old where you hold it in one hand and poke it with the other. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I made a comment over at droid life that I was excited for the device but that it seemed to be a wise choice to maybe wait for a few reviews before purchasing. Damn if I didn't bring the blackberry fanatics out of the wood work. They acted like I'd boned their mom in front of them or something
  • Is that how you got stabbedintheface?? Posted via the Android Central App
  • What did did the say? That sounds like a pretty reasonable comment. People like that are what no community needs. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Say something reasonable but negative about a Nexus on Android Police. The Nexus fanboys will come to your house and torture you until you retract it. It's almost as bad here, but not quite.
  • please don't compare us to the fanboys at AP!! defensive, yeah I'll give you that, but it's good natured, mostly done with a smirk, and i promise we won't show up at your house ... we'll get u on your way to work instead ;-)
  • You don't say anything reasonable. All you do is ramble your Samsung obsessed views, all of which are completely irrelevant because you cant take off your fanboy goggles long enough to say anything that doesn't sound biased and ignorant
  • See what I mean about it being almost as bad here?
  • Based on many of your recent comments, you're about as bad as they come
  • I'm all for opposing views and criticism. it's what makes this forum great and what I enjoy most about coming here. but to make statements like saying the Nexus lags, especially when comparing to Samsung, just makes any further statement irrelevant. do I think Samsung can do a better job with RAM management? yeah. do I like touchwiz? no. but my Nexus "goggles" aren't so thick where I can't see that the Note 5 and Edge+ are two of the best smart phones ever made. for everything negative I've said about them, I've had 10 good things to say. simply making statements just to get a reaction gets stale quick.
  • Saying the nexus lags? Who said that? I've given Samsung's hardware plenty of compliments over the months. Actually, they produce the best hardware on the market, and that includes comparing to them to apple. I've said that plenty of times now. But their software is still an inconsistent joke IMO which I find unacceptable in this day and age.
  • sorry bud, meant to reply to the tomato!
  • Lol I figured….
  • The Nexus line of smartphones sits alone atop the mountain of greatness. Posted via the Android Central App
  • This was the thread
  • I agree with you 100% my Bold 9900 was my favourite BB of all time, and although I love my Note 3 and Android, I miss my BB keyboard... Can't wait for this new BB! Posted via Android Central App
  • They better make this thing under $500 to be competitive. Posted via Nexus 5
  • It should be $650-800. Under 500 it will be looked at as cheap, and likely will be made cheaply. Since most buy on contract, 99-199 on contract will do fine. Blackberry shouldn't sink to the mid level devices. They need to have a premium device as their flagship.
  • That's the sort of thinking that got them in this mess in the first place. This needs to be $499 unlocked, or there about. Posted via the Android Central App
  • totally agree. I was thinking $550-$600, maybe even less.
  • $800? I for one, along with many others, will never part with that much money for a phone. This phone is also using the 808. It world get crushed by the likes of the G4. Just because Apple and Samsung enjoy raping everyone's pockets doesn't mean that it is a good idea for every OEM. Posted via the Android Central App
  • So , who gets to review the phone and where is the review going?. It's a lot of line stepping going on here. "a fanboy, DAT that sh...I don't like"
  • There will definitely be a review posted on AC. Who gets to write it... Well that's still open right now lol Posted via the Android Central App
  • Cool, I can see a lot of crying going about it. "a fanboy, DAT that sh...I don't like"
  • Both.. From 2 prospectives.
  • From 2 perspectives? It's an Android phone
  • Crackberry and ac +++ Insert witty signature, watch as others not get it, profit +++
  • To be honest, if anything comes close to the excitement level of LG V 10, it's Blackberry Priv. Posted via the Android Central App on my Galaxy S3 Neo Dual Sim which thankfully doesn't have S-pen and does not have a horrible metal body.
  • The V10 being that exciting might be a slight exaggeration, ya think? I love your username. Kevin Spacey plays the roll to perfection. Its the best single performance ever on a TV drama IMHO
  • James Gandolfini for me Posted via the Android Central App
  • Amen. I cannot wait until the Priv. I stopped using Blackberry Bold 9700 and went to my imported Rogers HTC Magic. Never looking back from Android, except my short stint with WebOS Palm Pre Plus. Yearning for a vertical style keyboard with Android, I stuck with Samsung Galaxy to this day. I was tempted once by the Blackberry Passport, but the pricing kept me at arms length. So now that the Priv is full Android mixed with Blackberry hardware, I'm officially on the bandwagon, and hope this is just the beginning. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I agree with everything you wrote except unlike yourself I actually enjoyed the BB10 experience. Those talking trash about BlackBerry either have never used it or don't remember how much you could do on a BlackBerry. BlackBerry looks like they finally did the right thing. Putting Schneider Optics in the camera with 18MP and OIS this will be the first BlackBerry with a real camera. The Keyboard needs no introduction as it is the best ever made. The BlackBerry HUB is the best notification center ever created on any platform hands down. All messages and notifications appear in the BlackBerry HUB. One particular thing I miss about the HUB is being able to mark a text message as unread and get back to it later. BlackBerry email is also the best on any platform. BlackBerry contacts and calendar are also the most robust I've ever used with so many features. BlackBerry has always been a "getting shit done" phone. It's only weakness is the app gap. But that is no more with the Priv. The Priv will bring all of the great things I mentioned above along with Google Play Services and any app you want. It truly is the best of both worlds and I'm stoked it is coming. This will easily be the best Android phone ever made and I can't wait! Posted via the Android Central App
  • You guys are going to learn something about the Hub and what developers want. "a fanboy, DAT that sh...I don't like"
  • I hope they make a comeback.. Definitely rooting for them
  • Agreed! Can not wait for this monster combo! -Posted via the Android Central App on my G4-
  • I love BB10.3. It is my favorite mobile OS by far. Everything is swipes so it's incredibly fast to navigate. Maybe if Devine used 10.3, he would change his mind about the OS.
  • This guy has used a newer BlackBerry running the newer OS. 10.3.2 on my Passport blows doors on my Samsung Tab Pro. I will have to see how BlackBerry has integrated their OS features and security. Nothing yet makes me want to put my Passport aside. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Blackberry just had such a nice maturity to it that showed through a lot of features that still don't exist in modern smartphones. I wouldn't use a BB in it's current form, but I still miss some of these "mature" features. Example: BB had the alarm built into the hardware. So if your battery died or even if you turn the phone off the alarm would still wake up and go off.
  • Im just waiting when this phone coming out!!
  • Wait, hold everything. Just so I understand, BlackBerry builds a new device running Android OS, their version includes BB apps and a level of security. How is this different from Cyanogen, why don't BlackBerry follow Cyanogen's business model for the OS (Fork) and follow One Plus in their steps and build a super spec'd phone and slap on their version of the OS. This time don't build 5 - 7 versions (can't any way) so build two (high end and midrange) like Motorola/Lenovo and impress everyone. BlackBerry are you listening? Just a thought. Posted via the Android Central App on my Nexus 4 w/ Lollipop 5.1.1
  • Agreed
  • Yeah, I'm 100% sure the Blackberry designers read the comments on AC articles looking for ideas.
  • I too am excited for Blackberry to make an Android handset to compete in the current smartphone arena. Been waiting for this since the 9000 was released. If any of you missed it, CrackBerry posted a video of a demo from one of Bell Mobility's retaliers, and it's a much better hands-on than what we got from Chen last week. It shows off the entire device, how the scrolling keyboard works, and how the Home button is currently configured for 3 actions: Device Search, Google Now and the BlackBerry Hub: I wonder though... is it really faster nowadays to type on a keyboard versus a touch screen, or is it just a throwback thing? I had a Passport for a week and I was so slow and clunky typing on it compared to the predictive text features of even just stock touchscreen keyboards. I do appreciate being able to touch-type on a hardware keyboard, but I feel that I'd be faster on a touchscreen. I also bet your thumbs will hurt faster on a hardware keyboard than a touchscreen. Lastly, it should be priced around $500 to be competitive, especially as the underdog, but then again a 128gb Nexus 6P is $650, and plenty of people raced to buy it the second it was available, so who knows. Money isn't an object for most businesses, so that won't be a problem. If it's any comparison, the Passport that's for sale on BB's site is $650, so I'm assuming it's going to be priced somewhere around there. Thanks for posting this article. It's nice to see AC giving BB some love, even if it's only because it's got Android on it. Then again, Michael Fisher at Pocketnow posted a very similar "I can't wait for this device" article about a week ago, so it's definitely piqued the smartphone junkies. Exciting things to come! Hopefully it's out before Thanksgiving so it can be on shelves for the holidays.
  • Between this and a 128gb nexus 6p, I'd take the nexus if they are the same price. However, from what I've read, the Priv is only 32gb, a 32gb 6p is $499. This need to be priced around or less than that, imo.
  • The Priv has expandable storage Posted via the Android Central App
  • So, an SD card doesn't come included in that price. If you're comparing prices, how do you compare 128gb to 32gb and think they should be equally priced? The only way this nexus/priv comparison makes sense is doing it by equal storage sizes. If you need 64gb, you compare the price of the priv plus SD card, to the 64gb nexus. The way you're trying to do it, the Priv priced at $650, plus $20 for a 32gb SD card is $120 more than an equivalent 64gb nexus. What if someone only needs 32gb? The priv would be $150 more for the same amount of storage. I like expandable storage, but it's not worth $150.
  • My original point was more about what people would pay for an unlocked phone, not necessarily price per gb. Then again, only true hardcore people will buy this phone unlocked over the internet. A vast majority will walk into their cell phone retailer and pick either what looks cute/cool, or what the rep sells them. I highly doubt most reps will push the Priv, but that's an assumption based on how previous Blackberry products have been sold. Do we know if any AT&T reps pushed the Passport? Interestingly enough, it's $499 right now at the AT&T store, but that's still carrier branded. This pricing debate got me thinking about how other OEM's are pricing their unlocked phones, so I researched the top 5 32gb phones I could think of. I know I missed a few, but this is at least a good start, and suggests that the Priv (can I please call it the Venice?) should be around $500 to be perceived competitive in the unlocked phone market, which, again, is a very small piece of the pie compared to in-store sales. Nexus 5X: $429
    Nexus 6P: $499
    OnePlus2: $389 (64gb; no 32gb version - invite only)
    ZTE Axon: $450
    Sony Z3: $560 (16gb only)
    Nextbit Robin: $399 (once released in Feb '06) As far as the SD card pricing goes, you can get a 128gb SD card from Amazon for $60 right now. I have no idea where I'm going with this. I guess I'd like to see it priced at $499. I can't justify paying more based on current market trends for competitive unlocked Android phones.
  • The passport was overpriced on release, too, for an awkward niche device. Carriers had no reason to push it to consumers, it was claimed to be a business device, lack of apps, no one wanted it. It didn't sell and still won't at its current price (which is still too high for a blackberry) Interesting choices for top 5 32gb phones, besides the nexus devices, I wouldn't have picked any of the rest as a top device. Lg g4 - $435 (unlocked on amazon)
    Moto x pure edition 32gb - $449
    5x - $429
    6p - $499
    Note 5 - $699 (unlocked on amazon)
    Galaxy s6 - $540 (unlocked on amazon) The problem with comparing these phones is demand or consumer interest, blackberry has a lot ground to make up in earning back the trust of consumers. They need to price this aggressively to become relevant again. Side by side in a store, average consumers will see blackberry, dismiss it and pick one of these other more well known android devices for the same price or cheaper. I'm sure the Priv is going to be priced over $600, like most of their past "flagship" devices when they were released. I still feel like this needs to be closer to $400-450 to gain any real interest sitting next to these other phones. They certainly can't sit it next to a well known note 5 and expect people to consider a phone from a struggling company, at the same price or close to it. Regardless of what blackberry diehards think, most people seem to believe blackberry is dead or going out of business. They need to get phones in people's hands, change this assumption, and they aren't going to do that by pricing the Priv higher than their reputation allows. That being said, I don't think you can compare these devices at all, and certainly not based solely on storage size. The only common factor is android as the OS, the rest is up to perceived value of the device (a lot of people think the 6p is over priced). Which blackberry is pretty low, right now. My point was you can't compare the nexus to a blackberry, and especially not to their first effort at android. But, if you're going to try, comparing the price of a 32gb Priv to a 128gb 6p doesn't make sense. I feel like the g4 is closest in specs, and probably a slightly better comparison, price wise.
  • Thanks for this link! -Posted via the Android Central App on my G4-
  • Minus the keyboard (since were talking 2015) and I like it too... Posted via the Android Central App
  • The good thing is that we also have the option for an onscreen keyboard haha with a potential experience to a good hardware BB keyboard Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yeah well I'm sure that keyboard takes up space . makes it thicker Posted via the Android Central App
  • Keyboard is what attracts some the most. I spend so much time pounding out emails on my phone. Still haven't matched the experience of doing that on a Bold 9900.
  • You're aware of the company that slapped a blackberry keyboard on an iPhone, as an accessory.. Bb sued them.
  • Steve Jobs convinced the world that it didn't need a keyboard. He was wrong. It isn't about speed, although I am pretty quick. Mostly it is about accuracy and the ability to type without looking at the keys. Keyboard avoids those really annoying typos. Posted via Android Central App
  • I am hoping this phone does really well Posted via the Android Central App
  • The phone looks nice....but keyboards are dead....where they need to be.......the relevance of them are all but over Posted via the Android Central App
  • In your opinion.... I personally think this could being back the slider trend, one ready for a good keyboard on a phone again, plus its gonna be nice to have a full screen while typing Posted via the Android Central App
  • The keyboard is touch itself.
  • Keyboards are not dead I'm one of many who are coming back to BlackBerry because of the keyboard. If you don't like the keyboard don't use it. You can keep it closed and use the touch Keyboard as you like. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I literally only made an account on here to reply to you. that is a ridiculous claim your making! "When Sprint asked customers whether they'd buy a physical keyboard the next time around — not so long ago — 75 percent of existing QWERTY users said they would. Even one quarter of iPhone users, and 30 percent of Galaxy Note II users, said they'd prefer a physical QWERTY keyboard on their next smartphone." its a fact that plenty of smartphone users find physical keyboards convenient. just because no-one is making them doesnt mean the market is not there... the current highest spec android with a physical keyboard is the LG Mach from 2012... it was an alright midrange at the time, so no one bought it really... no one since has had the guts to make a high end qwerty. I am very glad BB is taking the chance. it may very well save them
  • I agree. They will clean up since they have no competition. The reason most people don't have QWERTY phones is because the only OEM making them is BlackBerry and the masses don't want BB10. If the masses had a high end QWERTY option running Android many would buy it but it never existed until now. I think the Priv will sell like hot cakes. I know I will be buying one on the day it is available. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I'm one of the remaining BlackBerry users. I own a Passport and a q10. Have tried to switch to ios and android for a non work device but I simply just find they aren't good enough at the basics, calls, emails, messaging, multitasking, battery life and durability. That said i'm still annoyed with BlackBerry not delivering the best of both worlds (productivity and entertainment). Love my passport and tried to use it as a non work device, but it basically just evolved into a mobile office. Still use the q10 in the field and as a personal device because the passport is too precious. Seriously hope the slider is a worthwhile and more compactable replacement for the passport.
  • I don't see this phone being a hit. BlackBerry were big hit the business section early on then when this market started to shrink they had the low cost public section for kids mainly but devices like the iphone 5c lumia 500s and 600s as well as low cost android phones have taken its space. I dont see BlackBerry getting anywere with this phone too as i think its too late in the market to try and get back into it esp when it will have the iphone 6s galaxy 6 and note as well as the lg g4 and new V line and not forgetting htc´s next modal as well as the new sony phone and the new lumia 950 on its way too i dont see how this phone can stand out. I could be wrong but i dont think i will be. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Dumbest comment I have read so far. How can you say you don't think this phone stands out when it is so DIFFERENT than all the phones you mentioned? None of those phones have a physical QWERTY Keyboard nor the security of this device nor the unique BlackBerry HUB and productivity apps. This stands out far and above all the phones you mentioned because it is so different and offers much more. Posted via the Android Central App
  • They're running out of time with this, they need to get it on the market yesterday. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yep. Market is oversaturated already and the fact that all of the flagships are out by now is only gonna hurt them more. they should have tried releasing it right before iPhone 6+ and Note 5, not months after. via AC App on
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  • Especially with phones like the Moto X, G4 and Nexus 5x running the 808 already out and priced to sell. Obviously there's reasons to want this phone, other than the processor, but each day that passes where this isn't on sale, makes it less and less likely to succeed. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Priv stands for for privilege. Or privacy. Or private parts. Or something. Let me show you how fast it does Chrome. Oh, wait, I have to set it up, never mind. It does something. I don't know what to tap, though. But it has a keyboard, looky looky. -- Blackberry
  • If the new BlackBerry runs stock Android believe me when I say I would buy one in a heartbeat. #StockAndroidisKing Posted via the Android Central App
  • The masses dont care if a phone runs stock Android, sorry Posted via the Android Central App
  • Priv is also short for privy which means toilet. Not great marketing it appears.
  • I want android on my passport! Haha Posted via Android Central App
  • This does need to launch. Now that I know BlackBerry is giving up on bb10 I am ready to move on. What I need is the phone to launch now, they hype (which granted they didn't ask for #leaks) are making people impatient. Posted via Android Central App
  • I would consider this as a work phone. Could be great. Posted from my Asus ZenFone 2.
  • I'm excited too. I can't wait until this phone drops and the reviews are done. I'm hoping this will be the best of both worlds because BB was my first smart phone company and they nailed the hardware and software, but fell behind in apps and in today's market that's unacceptable. Posted via the Android Central App
  • May sound stupid but Google would have done awesome if they released this with BlackBerry as the Pixel Phone Posted via the Android Central App
  • Don't care about cost since it will go on my Jump on T-Mobile. Don't care about the name since I'll proudly call it a blackberry. All I care is, it's a blackberry and Google's android together and I want to see it now. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I'm really excited for this phone. I had a torch 9800 concurrent to my evo 3d. Loved the keyboard and most importantly, the password keeper.
  • I don't think this will have a unlockable bootloader since its blackberry I bet they have encrypted it too hard! Posted via the Android Central App
  • thats the only thing im disapointed in this phone about so far! that and maybe a bigger sideways sliding keyboard xD
  • Well, if you're buying a BlackBerry, being able to unlock a crucial security function of a phone would be one of the last things on your wishlist. BB customers typically want lots of security,
  • Blackberry hardware? Android OS? Great combo in my book.
  • This phone will decide the fate of BlackBerry.
    Hope they price it well.... Posted via the Android Central App
  • Unfortunately if the herd doesn't adopt any phone it is dead after about 6 months. I now run a g4... Even it gets frustrating. If you ever want to pick up a case or any accessory in a brick store you better own Samsung or Apple. Posted via the Android Central App
  • A third look at the Priv and now my interest has been piqued. The only caveat I can see is accessory support and manufacturer support i.e. updates. Cynicism Evolved
  • If this phone has any chance of selling it's going to be from businesses that need blackberry for security reasons it's not going to from you're average Joe looking to buy the newest best phone out. Posted via the Android Central App
  • All I know is...I can't freakin' wait. No touchscreen experience compares to the old Bold 9000 typing experience. -Posted via the Android Central App on my G4-
  • Only a hater can deny this devices appeal! Posted via the MATERIAL AC App
  • Not really, some find it appealing some don't, doesn't make them haters. Personal preferences.
  • Sums up the Internet. You could just as easily say only a fanboy would appreciate this device. Just because someone disagrees doesn't make them a hater; or a troll; or a bad person. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I have never been excited about a Blackberry device, until now. I seriously dig the design and the fact that it's running on a mostly stock build of Android. That physical slider keyboard is actually something I like. I love SwiftKey, but I miss the tactile feedback of those keyboards. If BB gets long-term support and security right, this phone just might be a winner for them. Here lies the "2016 Flagship Killer". It got slayed by 2015 flagships like the LG G4 being used to post this.
  • I am currently using the LG Mach, which is currently the highest spec Android with a physical keyboard... its a midrange 2012 phone and i'm still using it, because honestly the keyboard is more important to me than anything else, but the android is a must.... I AM SO FREAKIN PUMPED FOR THE PRIV!!! FINALLY A HIGH END ANDROID WITH A KEYBOARD!!! a 0.3MP front camera to a 5MP front camera is going to be quite an upgrade! as well as 1gb ram duo core processor to a 3gb 808 monster!
  • They need to make a glorious Nexus version BlackBerry. I would be the first to order one. Posted via the Android Central App
  • with or without a keyboard? I've always liked blackberry's hardware, specifically the kevlar. other than moto, for whatever reason it's just not used that much. BB needs to offer more than just the keyboard and security features. if they're going to survive, they'll need several touch screen only phones running close to stock android with all the features people expect. that's how they got to be where they are in the first place, so you'd think they'd learn their lesson. and they need leadership capable of adapting and making quick decisions.
  • Well since it's a BlackBerry they should include the crazy little keyboard. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Why do they need stock Android? Nobody is exactly clamoring for stock Android or Nexus would be the top selling phone in the Android space Posted via the Android Central App
  • Because Stock Android provides a great foundation for people to build on and create there own powerful and efficient experience. Posted via the Android Central App
  • They're rebuilding. You've got to walk before you can run again. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It looks the same as blackberry touch Posted via the Android Central App
  • I'm personally not excited for this. But I think the fact that it's a choice is a good thing. There are people that will love this phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Wow there's paragraphs of opinions to read! It's good to see people are still so passionate about a brand we all love
  • I'll keep any eye on this. I've missed a physical keyboard since my Palm Pre.
  • —I don't see how anyone could be a staunch BlackBerry loyalist at this point. Must be a Canadian pride thing. I used to be like you, sipping that Waterloo Aquafina. Settling with a Bold while the competition vaulted ahead. But I guess I started waking up in 2011 when I purchased a Playbook (need I say more?). I really don't think Blackberry will ever make a comeback. They have a track record of missed opportunity and frustrating delays. They're the disappointing end of mediocrity. The "Priv" will fail not because it's a crappy device, but because BlackBerry will squander it's potential. I mean have they abandoned their own OS? They're gonna compete with themselves when they can't even compete globally? I'm not looking back.
  • Everyone changes, including corporations. As they say "necessity is the mother of invention". I used to be a big Apple fan, until they started resting on their laurels. It's unfortunate that BB10 hasn't gained transaction as it's the best OS available on a mobile device. Had Blackberry come to market with BB 10 before Android, Android would not exist. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I wish them well. I usually say, more completion is good. However, there are a zillion Chinese phones hitting the market with premium quality and budget prices. It will take great reviews and a huge marketing budget to get more than a blip in marketshare. Hmmm...4 versions of the word market in my comment. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Blackberry fails in marketing there devices. When the Note 5 and Edge came out, Samsung put a lot into letting us know the thing existed in the first place. Blackberry seems to only be interested in marketing to foreign and developing countries. Blackberry also fails in making their carriers push out their updates in time. When BB 10.2 came out, it was over a year until some carriers even bothered to push it to their customers . Also the os has been able to run most android apps natively and unless you were in the BB community, you wouldn't know this. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Okay, I think BB really got it right this time. Many people are complaining about the lack of a good Android phone with a physical keyboard, moreover BB is famous for its wonderful QWERTY, and it carries an (apparently) almost untouched version of Android...
    This phone might be quite a success, and it would be nice to have one more big competitor! More competition -> better products ;)
  • I have not been too impressed with Android phone security. If BB can pull off this with the best of both worlds, this would be great. I am puzzled why BB neglected to just add the slider as with their Torch cell phone. I have the option to use full screen touch keyboard which converts to tactile one when slid down. I like it mainly for the handy shortcuts offered by the slider. I was hoping they would offer one with BB10 OS, but no luck. OS7 mainly sucked.
  • I might even trade up my note 5 for this phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • That's actually trading down...
  • I owned every BlackBerry release until the Torch, that was the motivation to try a Sammy SkyRocket and I've had an Android ever since. Torch as a terrible phone, BBOS 7 was already dead and wobbles and wiggles on the hardware were evident. This build by all accounts is much better, something I want to hold in my hands and check myself. I do worry about BlackBerry updates. Chen trying to "right size" the company seems to have limited their focus. All of the recently released phones seem to have minuses that have kept me away. I've gone to long passwords and a fingerprint reader for me in 2015 seems to be a necessary addition and that's a negative here it seems. I haven't seen any mention of wireless charging, something I like as well. On the other hand it does support SD cards, its a good size, and I enjoy the BlackBerry keyboard for long emails and messages. This is another phone I want to like but I am cautious.
  • Don't like PKB, Sliders or any BlackBerry... "PASS" From my Note 3 to thee
  • If it has the premium quality of the Passport, and the BB10 Hub experience, then I'll jump over when my Passport dies or takes a swim in the pool. Posted via the Android Central App on my BlackBerry Passport
  • I haven't owned a Blackberry since the Tour. I'm not excited for the Priv.
  • It's at the top of my possible buy list to replace my OnePlus One. A top notch camera would seal the deal. I started liking Blackberry after I bought a 64GB Playbook for cheap. Still use my Z10 on a regular basis. I think BB10.3 is amazing. It's a shame about the app situation.
  • Excluding apps I actually preferred bb10 over android but it is what I it is now.
  • If the price is right, im getting it! Posted via the Android Central App
  • My first smartphone was a BB Tour. It was a pretty good phone for its time IMO. Then I hopped on the Android train with the HTC D.Inc and never looked back. I've gotten used to not having a physical keyboard, but I would welcome it back. I will take a good look at this phone once it's released and been on the market for a month or two.
  • The bold 9000! I still have it in my office closet. Mint! I will pass. Not sure a company that had a board that let those idiot co ceos destroy the company, deserves my money. Sorry BlackBerry I am still pissed you did not listen to the customers, not even a tiny bit. Posted via Nexus 6!
  • You know that you the Board has dramatically changed after the Thorsten Heins left as CEO. Just like other companies, they're not the same as they were as before.
  • Their stupid agency Brodeur was also to blame in GIVING (as in, for free) Playbooks to low social capital "bloggers" with subdomained blogs with low traffic and non-existant engagement. Is it any wonder why the P&L was effed up? Stupid people making stupid decisions Posted via the Android Central App
  • Can't wait for the Priv, who wants a LG G4? Posted via the Android Central App on my LG G4
  • I hope it won't be a bad experience as the Passport that lasted 2 days with me causing me hands and shoulders pain ( coz of pressing keyboard ) thereafter as am loyal I went back to my Z30 .
    However I would prefer PRIV to be in 2 versions with and WITHOUT keybpard . That would be much better .
    Frankly I am not a keyboard person !
  • I had a z10 and it was surprisingly good except I couldn't get the apps my family and friends were using. So it was a great experience with no one to share it with. I am really interested in this new BlackBerry. I Hope they don't price it too high. Posted via the Samsung Note 4
  • I'm right there with you. I want a physical keyboard, dammit!
  • I remember when Android manufacturer's all offered a slide out keyboard option and how everyone ridiculed it. They didn't sell very well. Funny to see people defend this phone.
  • The name.. Is it pryve like private or is it priv like privy?
  • My wife insists on a hardware keyboard on her phone so she's been using the BB Q5 for the past two years. The trouble is there are plenty of times when she wants to do something and I either can't find a BB10 app or I just can't figure out how to help her. An Android version of a hardware keyboard equipped phone will def be her next phone. Great stuff BB!
  • All I want to know is can it be rooted!? Posted via the MATERIAL AC App
  • I just want the Blackberry Messenger app ( not BBM). I liked having my texts and my main email account in one place when I had my blackberry. They should put it on the Google Play Store.
  • Competition us good for the Co sumer and do hope BlackBerry performs well with this. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Back to Blackberry for many of us. I mean look at the same old garbage Android phones spit out year after year. What's old is new again with this new BlackBerry, slider, QWERTY keyboard, real security and Android OS. On the BlackBerry version of Android, it's supposed to be the most heavily customized version of them all. It will be interesting to see how much. I can't wait! Posted via the Android Central App
  • I totally agree with the article. I miss my Blackberry keyboard... I get by with gesture typing but can't wait for a real android with a real keyboard... Now, if it has a good camera, too, i'll faint.
  • I can't wait! Yaaaaaaaaaaah! Bloop, Bloop, Bloop...Samsung :D •Samsung Galaxy Tab 4, Android 4.4.2
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  • This looks very promising. That said I don't need a physical keyboard anymore. Even if I had 1000 emails to respond to every day, I still prefer a software keyboard and I think they are better actually for a lot of typing than a cramped physical keyboard.
  • when is this going to happen. Posted via Android Central App
  • Absolutely appreciate the sentiment but after the Playbook farce do you really expect Blackberry to support this thing properly? I'm struggling to believe it.
  • Excited as hell, I will get one for sure. Blackberry will rise again, something Nokia should have done years ago. Posted via the Android Central App
  • This phone looks badass! If it has a good battery, I'll be getting it!
  • I recommend "Losing the Signal" by Sean Silcoff to anyone interested in the rise and fall of Research In Motion/BlackBerry and especially to former BlackBerry users who were frustrated by it but sort of root for it now. I read that as an e-book (on an Android of course) cover to cover last weekend.
  • This is my first post on Android Central, spending most of my time on CrackBerry. I've been using BB10 since the Z10 was launched and, although I'm now using a Passport, the Z10 has received a constant stream of updates since launch and currently sports the latest 10.3.2 OS, just like my Passport. I personally think that BB10 is the best mobile OS on the market, having used both iOS and Android extensively. I will admit that I was burned by the PlayBook. I actually bought the 16GB model at full price, then bought a 64GB version at a discount when I was told that it would be getting BB10. Now they are just kids toys that the kids use to play games once in awhile. I personally don't like the idea of BlackBerry using what I consider an inferior OS (Android), but I will admit that BlackBerry has burned its loyal customers way too many times to deserve a second chance. Alas, the Priv will just be another Android device, but it will have a physical keyboard that can be used as an option. Other than that, meh.
  • Windows 10 would have BB not Android ;) Posted via the Android Central App