Google Wallet

We're just going to let this one from Verizon hang out there:

Recent reports that Verizon is blocking Google Wallet on our devices are false. Verizon does not block applications.

Google Wallet is different from other widely-available m-commerce services. Google Wallet does not simply access the operating system and basic hardware of our phones like thousands of other applications. Instead, in order to work as architected by Google, Google Wallet needs to be integrated into a new, secure and proprietary hardware element in our phones.

We are continuing our commercial discussions with Google on this issue.

Whether it's Verizon doing the blocking, as 9 to 5 Google's anonymous source reportedly said, or if it's just not allowing the app, or whatever -- or if it's the current deal with Sprint that's keeping Google Wallet off every other Nexus device -- it's still bad for Google Wallet in short term, not to mention disappointing for those who don't want to hack their phones. Will Google Wallet survive in the long term? Just have to see. 

Source: Verizon

 
There are 54 comments

FUUUUU

opjones says:

Whoa whoa whoa, stop the clock

ithinkimjoe says:

pretty much exactly what i was going to say.

palmwebosfan says:

Nice Ronnie Mund aka Ronnie The Limo Driver quote! Whoa, whoa, whoa, Stop the Clock! Haha

TheBigFerret says:

Maybe that limo driver could run backwards so time would stop or sumptin' tss tss tst

manderko says:

fricken chip. I was one of the 4 finalists on car crash comedy in studio last march and I got to see that annoying bastard up close and personal

xemtra says:

Sprint doesn't have that kind of pull. Even if it was a contract thing that should be going out soon anyway. Smells like Verizon didnt want to allow it and is going to use an access privileged as an excuse

bstringy says:

"We are continuing our commercial discussions with Google on this issue." ...and see if we can get Google to pay us a huge cut. After all, we are the carrier and this is not Apple we are dealing with so we can play hardball.

bstringy says:

Sounds a lot like the Blackberry GPS/Navigation issue all over again.

3rdpig says:

VZ hopes we'll all forget that ever happened. Probably like they hope we forget the Storm 1 fiasco. As an ex Storm owner, let me say this about that, "Fat chance assholes".

RAPTOR0065 says:

I was thinking the EXACT same thing. They pulled this $#it years ago and I canceled my contract and gave them their BlackBerry back. I see they're pulling the same prank on their consumers with NFC. For a brief time I had considered giving them another chance after they changed some policies, but I'm glad I didn't.

Thats why Google wallet was ported to TMO and ATT NEXUS S. i call BS!

jcastag says:

what a load of CRAP!!!! They are "blocking" the app. They are trying to word it differently so they are not in violation of the net neutrality laws that were passed. The handset was DESIGNED to have Google Wallet integrated, so what do THEY need to work on????

They have been trying to fight to get those laws removed so they can have even more control of what you do on your phone, and to charge for their own services while blocking consumers from using others.

I think its time for class action suits to be filed on VZW for crap like this!

OLD_HATCH says:

*cough* bullship *cough*

Don't block apps right? So where are the tetherin' apps?

El Jefe says:

This is exactly what I was going to say.

"Verizon does not block applications"
...except those which allow tethering. but seriously this time, guys--we don't block applications.
oh, and don't go reading about how users hacked GoogleWallet onto their Sprint Nexus phones even after it was released without it. you don't want to do that. then it wouldn't be a pure Verizon experience, would it? we're looking into it. [secret VZW document]

Ninja'd

atranchina says:

Amen. Only Verizon could fuck up a Nexus device.

jcastag says:

.....And they wonder why so many people want to root their handsets!!!

mtbenti says:

How can Google be happy about partnering with Verizon on this phone when they come out and contradict what Google said on the situation..

This whole Nexus fiasco on Verizon needs to end, lets get it out and wait til the next nexus & hope Google takes back control of their flagship device

eahinrichsen says:

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that neither Google nor Samsung is happy about their partnership with Verizon on this one.

El Jefe says:

No doubt.

Well, I may as well go ahead & get this phone because chances are I won't be seeing another Nexus on VZW. :/

etnpnys says:

So... this basically says "we don't block applications. ... ...but we blocked this one because we haven't worked everything out with Google."

Funny... I heard the same thing the other day from a development group: "The code freeze happened a week ago, so let's talk about the things we haven't finished yet that we'll put into it in a few days."

Do people hear themselves at all?

dwboston says:

I have a feeling the next Nexus will be a Motorola device with absolutely no CDMA version available. Google has to be ruing the day it got in bed with VZW on this one. This VZW GN shouldn't even have the "Nexus" name at this point.

amojeba says:

I don't think so. I'm certainly not advocating VZW's practice here in any way.
But while the next Nexus phone will likely be Motorola, I don't think it will be GSM only. You have to realize that Verizon promoted Android via Motorola quite heavily, which allowed it to spread to many consumers very quickly in the pre-vzw iphone days. The OG droid alone made a huge impact in market penetration, as did the DX model. Verizon's heavy marketing had a lot to do with that.

While I don't support what Verizon is doing here with the nexus experience, I still think VZW, Moto, and subsequently Google (for owning Moto now) will continue to work closely together. They just need to work things out with Verizon's greediness.
My 2 cents.

jcastag says:

At this point I am glad I bought the Rezound on launch day instead of waiting for this. The more time that passes, the less interesting this phone seems. The Rezound has better specs anyway, and will have ICS very soon. The only thing that the Nexus had was NFC, and VZW has made sure that they rendered that useless.

I hope that this handset is a flop with sales, so the next time Google will say "you had your chance to do it your way the first time, now we do it OUR way"

eahinrichsen says:

Unfortunately, when Google did it their way, sales were pretty lousy. If this flops, it may well just be the end of the Nexus line.

levelm says:

If they had released the Nexus One on a carrier at a subsidized price it would have been the best selling device at the time. The problem is getting a carrier to sell the Nexus device unscathed and as-is. All the carriers want to bastardize it in some way or form. Google needs to buy T-Mobile or Sprint and begin an era of freedom & choice in the carrier ecosystem. Either that or they should go back to selling pure Nexus devices at an unsubsidized price for all the loyal developers and android enthusiasts and simply compensate manufactures for any loss they incur. They can afford it and so can the manufacturers. This is all BS and as far as I'm concerned our perception of a "Nexus" device died with the Nexus One.

Ben#AC says:

Google already stated that Verizon "asked" them to leave it out. Why would google not make the effort to include it? This is a very unclear statement from Verizon. I suspect that is because they are being careful with their wording so as to avoid looking like bullies.

jcastag says:

There is NO DOUBT in my mind at this point that this phone will be locked and encrypted! F YOU VZW and F U Google for letting VZW do this with your so called "Pure Google" handset!

orlanka says:

So you're getting pissed off at things that you're making up in your head? Do you always get mad at make believe?

Ben#AC says:

Are they trying to say that the galaxy s implementation is not good enough for Verizon? I don't know what the heck verizon is trying to say or not say here.

Ben#AC says:

Who is lying here? Google or verizon?

ithinkimjoe says:

pretty sure it's safe to say VZW. they block tethering apps. that line about not blocking apps is a blatant lie.

Ben#AC says:

Will the sticker work?

This is why you don't partner anything with Verizon. Verizon is in many ways like Apple, they want to control everything.

Seven2k says:

God VZ is lame!

quay69 says:

Verizon galaxy droid lol :-)

quay69 says:

Google sucks a horrible 1.2 processor vs 1.5, only a 5mp camera, no use of the nfc , Verizon bloatware, this is not a Galaxy nexus more like a Verizon galaxy droid, google and Samsung failed miserably with this phone any galaxy s II will out perform this phone anytimeSelect ratingSpamThumbs DownThumbs Up

bit_runner says:

I've been waiting for this phone since I heard about it. Back then I never imagined not buying this on day 1. But here we are months later with horrible launch management by Verizon, and jacked $299 on-contract price, and now crippling one of the features I decided to wait it out for with Google Wallet? Now I don't know if I can even bring myself to buy the thing (on VZW, anyway). Too much blatant negligence, arrogance, and disrespect to potential customers.

VZW has trained me to wait long periods of time with slip hopes and not even a shred of information... I think I'll apply those skills to finding the handset on another carrier in the near future. By that time it's likely to be a more reasonable $199 anyway.

tx_tuff says:

Not saying it is right, and to be honest we have no idea who is at fault even if it does look like Verizon. It is a partnership and Google had to agree with everything so fault doesn't lay on just one party.

But the funnest thing of all is the people who b*tch the loudest will be the first ones in line to buy the phone!

droidgeek says:

this is true

Ben#AC says:

So, how can we hurt Verizon without damaging the Nexus line?

Ben#AC says:

Guess this would be a good time for Verizon to announce a release date and start marketing the phone to distract everyone.

TheBigFerret says:

I will be passing on this Nexus Prime Partial.

"Verizon does not block applications."

What a joke.

Windfrenzy says:

Apparently the new, secure, proprietary hardware is the Google Wallet Blocking Chip!

rosser says:

Ummmm I call BS. They block apps *cough ROOT TETHER cough*

amojeba says:

This article link from CNN Money explains it nicely. It's all about money. VZW partnered with ISIS for NFC payment, while Sprint partnered with Google Wallet for NFC.
Although the 2 options can coexist on a cell phone, VZW (in their typical fashion) has decided to remove our freedom of choice.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/06/technology/verizon_blocks_google_wallet/...

Mods - I apologize if link posting is not allowed. I just thought it was very relevant to the discussion.
Thank you.

KMyers says:

Hmm, "Verizon does not block applications"... really... lets just see what happens when we try to download "Android Tether" from the Google Market...

Lets face it, Google got in bed with Verizon and it seems that Google was forced to sign a pre-nuptial agreement that only benefits Verizon.

mercury694 says:

I don't post a lot of comments, but even I have to call BS on this one. Verizon is ALWAYS denying us device features and software that they feel may impact Verizon's revenue negatively. Come on, Verizon- It's bad enough that you practice this kind of business, but don't pretend we're stupid by denying it too. It's insulting to even imply that you aren't neutering every device for your profit.

benny32 says:

Haven't we already seen this thing rooted with Google Wallet added after the fact? I know you shouldn't have to do that to get a Google product on a Google phone but I was going to root the thing anyway so if that's all it take for me to get Google Wallet, one of the big reasons I was waiting this one out, then I'll deal with it I guess. I am no longer surprised by Verizon and the shit they pull and fully expect that I will have to take matters into my own hands to get the handset experience I want.