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Upgrades every 12 months require return of your current device; no decrease in service charges for buying off-contract

Following in the footsteps of the competition AT&T has just unveiled what it calls "AT&T Next", a new way of financing and upgrading handsets. With Next, AT&T customers will have the ability to upgrade their handset with no money down every 12 months, assuming that they sign up from the beginning with a payment plan on their current device. The system is loosely similar to T-Mobile's current JUMP! and Equipment Installment Plans, but breaks down differently, and in some ways more simply.

When purchasing a device and signing up for service, you will now have the option to buy a phone via Next on an installment plan. The device will have no down payment, but you will pay the full, unsubsidized price over equal monthly payments for 20 months. After 12 completed payments you will have the option to trade in your (working, undamaged) device and receive a new one — again, with no money down — and have the remaining eight monthly payments on the original phone wiped out.

The monthly installments will run between $15 and $50, depending on the phone, and are a function of evenly dividing the full retail price of the phone by 20 months.

By way of example, AT&T says, a Samsung Galaxy S4 in Next will cost $32 a month on top of your monthly service plan. You'll be able to trade it in and upgrade after 12 payments, or pay it off in full after 20 months. That's based on the full $639 purchase price of a 16GB model.

You then then have a new 20-month cycle of paying the full unsubsidized price of the new phone, which you can cut short again at 12 months and start all over. If you prefer, you can always opt to finish paying the 20 months of payments and own the device outright. There's no penalty for paying off early.

There is no indication with the materials available now that AT&T will have a service contract requirement for Next, but continual monthly service is required in order to keep the installment plan going. AT&T Next will be available as a purchase option for new customers and current customers with available upgrades starting July 26 and can be applied to purchase any phone or tablet that AT&T offers.

AT&T Customers Can Get a New Smartphone or Tablet Every Year With No Down Payment With "AT&T Next"

No Down Payment, No Upgrade or Activation Fees, and All On The Nation's Fastest 4G LTE Network AT&T 4G LTE Now Covers More than 225 Million People

Dallas, Texas, July 16, 2013 - Today, AT&T* introduces what’s next in wireless. Beginning nationwide on July 26, consumers can get a new AT&T smartphone or tablet every year with no down payment, no activation fee, no upgrade fee and no financing fees.**

With AT&T Next, customers purchase a smartphone or tablet with no down payment and agree to pay monthly installments for the device. After 12 payments, they can trade it in and upgrade to a brand new device — again with no down payment — or they can keep using their device and have no more payments after 20 months. AT&T Next is available for new AT&T customers or existing customers who are upgrade eligible.  

“With AT&T Next, customers can get the newest smartphone or tablet every year with no down payment. That’s hard to beat, and it’s an incredible value for customers who want the latest and greatest every year,” said Ralph de la Vega, president and chief executive officer of AT&T Mobility.

AT&T’s 4G LTE network now covers more than 225 million people nationwide and 328 markets. AT&T’s 4G LTE deployment is expected to cover 300 million people by year-end 2014, with nearly 90 percent of the build completed by the end of this year.

The great performance of AT&T’s network continues to be validated by independent third-party testing. AT&T 4G LTE service was recognized as having faster average download and upload speeds than any of our competitors in PCWorld/TechHive’s most recent 20-market speed tests — the second consecutive year that AT&T has ranked first overall. PCWorld/TechHive also ranked AT&T’s as the fastest combination of 3G and 4G services in the 20 cities it tested.*** And AT&T was named America’s fastest 4G LTE network in PC Magazine’s 2013 Fastest Mobile Networks 30-market study — and also swept the top rankings in all six U.S. regions from coast to coast: Northeast, Southeast, North-Central, South-Central, Northwest and Southwest.****

AT&T Next is available for any current smartphone or tablet in AT&T’s industry-leading selection of devices. The interest-free monthly device installments range from $15 to $50, depending on the device selected. For example, a customer purchasing a Samsung Galaxy® S 4 would have no down payment and pay $32 per month, in addition to the monthly wireless service plan they choose, with the option to trade in their device and upgrade after 12 payments or to keep using the device and pay off the installment plan in full after 20 months. There’s no penalty for paying off the installment plan early.

AT&T offers a broad choice of device purchasing options. In addition to AT&T Next, customers continue to have their choice of all current options, including getting a discounted device with a two-year service commitment; paying full retail price for a device with no-commitment; getting a partial discount for an early upgrade after six months with a two-year service commitment; or bringing their own compatible device.

More information is available at www.att.com/next or at any AT&T retail store.

*AT&T products and services are provided or offered by subsidiaries and affiliates of AT&T Inc. under the AT&T brand and not by AT&T Inc.

** Requires 20-month 0% APR installment agreement & qualifying credit. Wireless service req. (voice & data for smartphones/data for tablets). If you cancel wireless service, remaining balance on device becomes due. Sales tax due at sale. Qualifying devices only. Upgrade after 1 yr.: Req. min. 12 installment payments, acct. in good standing, plus trade-in of current device in good & functional condition & purchase of new device/wireless agreement & service plan. After upgrade remaining unbilled installment payments are waived. AT&T Next available only at AT&T owned retail stores & att.com. If device is returned, restocking fee up to $35 for smartphones or 10% of tablet sales price may apply. Terms subject to change.

*** PCWorld/TechHive, May 23, 2013, “AT&T clocks best overall speeds with 3G/4G combo”

**** PC Magazine, June 17, 2013; http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2420333,00.asp

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AT&T announces 'AT&T Next' to offer customers yearly upgrades on payment plans

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That didn't take long. Once I saw VZW leaks to answer T-Mobile (in a story here at AC), I knew AT&T wasn't far behind, but in a matter of hours we see the story on here? That's quick.

At least Verizon tries to do new stuff first. At&t only does things because Verizon does them. No other reason. Lte? Because Verizon did it. Share plans? Because Verizon did it. Upgrade programs? Because Verizon did it. Unlimited talk for $69 two years ago? Because Verizon did it.

The only things they do first is screw the consumer. They were first to limit data to 2GB AND they were first to throttle.

I despise Verizon and AT&T equally, but at least Verizon has some use. AT&T does everything just because Verizon did it first.

I hope what T-Mobile is doing hurts them both badly. Also hope Softbank does good things for sprint.

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Verizon has yet to announce a similar plan. Thus far, it's only rumors that they will. And if they do, it will be a case of them copying AT&T, which their norm.

It may work, but it seems pretty confusing.

Richard says:

"This new program from AT&T is essentially paying off your ETF, provided you stay with it and move over to an off-contract plan."

Wait, off contract, but held hostage still?
What's the difference between this plan and a contract?

Less than a year ago these carriers were all rushing to eliminate early upgrades and jack the ETF up.

Now they all appear to be looking for ways to take your old phones in trade with the promise of early upgrades.

What are they planning to do with all those trade ins?

Sell them for what they're really worth, which is typically $200-300 after 2 years. Much more after 1 year. You *always* do better selling it on eBay.

Yeah, try selling an HTC One X for $200 on eBay. Even after fees and shipping, you're not getting anywhere near that, let alone $300.

And what are they going to do with all those old phones?

Really, nobody is going to buy them from them, so I suspect they are selling them by the crate-load overseas somewhere. But where?

And how long do they give you to transfer all your stuff and properly wipe the phone?

Not really, you can pretty much do the same thing on your own every year, if you take good care of your phone, the difference between selling it and getting a new phone at the unsubsidized price /usually/ works out to the same $200 you would have to pay to just get a subsidized phone every year while turning in your phone (Holy run-on sentence Batman!). Its just a little easier.

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Hmm $32*12 =384 and the three year discount is $440 so by paying $32 a month to pay off the phone you would only be $60 away from owning it...

I was about to post something like this. I'm very curious to see what Sprint comes up with. This is why competition is good! The consumer can only really stand to benefit from this.

The first part of your statement didn't seem that bad since I thought I read that it's basically stock Android underneath FB Home, but then ya had to throw that extra bit in at the end didn't ya, haha.

I should add that I've never used FB Home. I'm actually kinda curious to try it. I'm just not sure if I'd use it as a "daily driver" on my phone.

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I tried it on my HOX+ and it only lasted about 20 minutes (15 of that was because my screen was off).....haha

Long term Sprint customers like myself will be pissed if they do. These new fangled ripoff plans are no way of substituting what I lost being a Premier Gold customer

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You know it, they pulled those antics just before I would have entered gold status.

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Sprint is a huge wildcard. Based on their new Japanese owner, I wouldn't be surprised by a huge price cut on unlimited and cheap, but good phones, to build customer base.

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Not! New prices are higher for most & you know unlimited is going away with their act now to lock it in scheme .

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hopefully they just bring back the Premier program. Where you could just upgrade once a year. If it is anything like any of the other programs it is going to suck.

Knowing AT&T if you're still lucky enough to be grandfathered in for unlimited data..... They will try and screw you out of that somehow under the new plan.

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Yup, not entirely clear how this will affect the grandfathered unlimited plans. Right now the AT&T Next system will not require a contract or subsidy, so presumably you could keep "unlimited". We'll have to see.

Confused about the 20-month talk as they just went to 24 months for the old school upgrade... And I'd rather not trade in my old device. Looks like 24 months for me while stealing a family member's upgrade every year or so.

And please don't steal my unlimited data anytime soon. Duopolies suck.

They structure it into 20 months so that the monthly payment is higher per month. Meaning at after 12 months, you've paid off more of the phone (60% vs 50%) before you turn it in for the upgrade.

I guess more options for upgrading phones sooner is good except for the fact the monthly service cost isn't going to be dropping at all. Pay the same amount a month for your service that would normally cover the subsidy of a phone and now we get the benefit of paying a "second" fee for the same subsidy all for the convenience of swapping it out once a year. I bet the higher ups at Verizon and AT&T LOVE this idea.

Thanks, but I'll just buy mine out right and then sell it after a year for half what I paid for it and get a new phone that way.

I saw the same thing. Unless AT&T separates their plans from their phones, this is just going to be a huge expense for those not smart enough to catch on to the double dipping for the phone costs.

Thank you for saying this. I was reading the comments and nobody mentioned this and I just did a report on the subsidy. It's bad for the customer.

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Even when you buy your phone outright you are still paying the same subsidy, so you are still paying double. Just not at the same time every month.

I have to give them credit.. it's a great hustle.. :-) This will keep'em comin in..
But.. No Thanks.. I'll keep my $30.00 bucks a month Prepaid T-Mo Plan.. Hell I just bought 2 $30.00 cards from Walmart and now I'm paid up for the rest of 2013. Can't afford to line AT&Ripoff's pockets at $96.00 a month for 450 mins and 2 gigs of data with 500 txts.. and now, PLUS the cost of a phone.. That's crazy.

Prepaid is the way to go.

Seriously, why would you enroll in this or VZ plan? Buying on subsidy is still clearly the way to go, and just don't upgrade as often. T-Mo crushed the big boys on this. I'll bet that T-Mo CEO is on his yacht with tons of hookers and blow laughing at these plans.

Actually no. Upgrade as soon as your eligible. Think about it. The subsidy is rolled into your monthly price. So after 2 years you've paid the subsidy. If you don't upgrade you are paying for the subsidy you've already paid off.

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The only problem I have with these programs is the Trade-In values. It might be cheaper to buy a used phone off of Ebay or Cragislist.

Well obviously used is always going to be cheaper. Jyst try not to think about what the last guy was doing with that phone as you hold it up to your face.

Carriers always follow T-Mobile lead. Anyone remember my faves? Then unlimited minutes, tmobile introduced value plans, Verizon ended subsidies on tablets. And now the jump program

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Verizon wants to end subsidies totally, and selling phones period, but imagine one of Verizon's 45 million basic phone customers coming in and not being to get a free flip phone on a two year renewal. It would be an outrage, it'd be churn city.

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This is all good and everything... But they're missing the point. Your still paying the subsidies in the plan price... And now your paying the subsidies again with a payment plan! It's a win win for them.

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+1. This is stupid unless they unveil lower monthly payments too.

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+1 to this guy....that's my gripe with all these plans. Same monthly service cost for a subsidized phone, but now I"m paying full price for a phone.

Thank you. I honestly thought I was missing some crucial detail about these, because they look completely idiotic to me.

I have mixed emotions on this. I can see how it is beneficial to some of their customers, but also how the hardcore phone users will not like it. If I can be paying for the phone I really want and do not plan on switching much (which I don't) and do not have to be on contract then I say good for me :) Time will be the true judge in this.

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No that is bad. So you know how the subsidy works? For two years you are paying roughly 20 dollars a month for the subsidy of the phone you bought. But after those two years you paid off the full price of the phone. So if you don't upgrade then you at paying the carrier 20 dollars extra a month for nothing.

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So what they're saying is that they're ending subsidies altogether? People who would be happy about this why? Anyone who tends to keep their phones for the duration of a contract would end up paying more, or am I missing something here?

Think it's just another option. I'll be watching for subsidized prices to creep up to $300 for most high-end phones very quickly.

I paid $332 total for my 64gb HTC One on AT&T. I absolutely love the phone, but I know realize I should have just bought the phone off-contract or gotten a Nexus 4. AT&T and Verizon need to be taken down.

AT&T isn't changing anything about their current offerings for people to buy phones on a 2-year contract with a subsidized up-front price. They're also still freely letting people bring their own unlocked devices to the network.

At least at this point, AT&T Next is just another option for buying a phone outright and out of contract if they plan on upgrading every year.

Except you don't buy the phone if you upgrade in 12 months....you hand it back to AT&T.

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Meh, I like my idea better. Pay for both your parents lines and user their upgrades every few months.

My parents hate smartphones so it works for me.

You're not the only person doing that, and I'm sure they have someone running analytics on it and trying to figure out how to stop the behavior in a way that sounds good to the idiots.

The only thing I think they can do is LOCK you on a data plan contract for a year or something. Unless if that is against the law, which I hope it is.

Yeah I get a new one every 12 months by taking my wifes phone upgrade. We are a year apart so it works.

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I'm guessing his wife gets his year-old phone switched over to her, so it's actually not that bad for her, either.

That bit me in the ass when my mom decided she needed to upgrade from her EVO to a G3.... She's 78 and teaches computers to seniors at the local Jr. College's Continuing Education class. I guess I know where I get my love for tech. (She got into an argument with a Best Buy drone because he didn't get why an old lady like her needed a topped out quad core desktop a few years ago... Of course he didn't realize that one of her hobbies includes some serious Photoshop work... Wish I'd been there to see his sad little face as she paid cash for his dream machine.)

I don't know if it's just me but I don't want nothing added on to my already high monthly bill!

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Are they going to lower the cost of service to match the "monthly installments?" If they aren't your double paying. At&t and Verizon plans are higher because the subsidizing is already included in every plan. So if they aren't going to lower your bill to match the monthly installments, then your double paying for every phone, and this plan is nothing but a money making scam. And I'm confused how then this is better than Tmobiles $10/a month plus installments that include insurance and plan that are about $50 lower a month

If there is enough outrage, they'll probably separate the subsidizing. However, if/when they do you can bet the actual service price will increase slightly. It'll still be better for those that don't care about the phone, but they'll make more money off those that do subsidize.

Its morning so maybe I'm fuzzy headed but this sounds like a bad deal if you're still paying the same as subsidized contracts.

Will AC be doing a breakdown on this soon?

People don't seem to realize how terrible these Verizon and Att programs are. They are asking people to pay full price for phone when plans are supposed to subsidize the cost. Consequently, they are asking people to overpay. By a lot!

I was about to say the same thing... If the cost of the subsidy is built into the plan, but under Next you get no subsidy, then AT&T is getting full price for the phone AND benefiting from the subsidy. Assuming that the manufacturer isn't paying the subsidy. If they were then there would be no point to this program anyways. I appreciate the concept, but I am not going to pay AT&T to double dip. I'll wait my 24 months... thanks to family plans, I get an upgrade of some sort every year if I want.

Here's my beef with AT&T. I buy my phones outright because I don't like contracts. But I can't get LTE on a prepaid plan. My only option to get LTE is to pay same rate as someone on a 2 year subsidized contract.

Why can't I get a better deal since I've already paid for my phone? I shouldn't have to pay the subsidy that someone on a 2 year contract is paying!!

So I say screw it and get service from an MVNO running on AT&T network for $45/month. As long as AT&T won't give me option to have LTE at fair price, I won't buy service from them. I'd try T-Mobile, but their coverage is nonexistent where I live and work.

this great for the carriers, they are double dipping. It's a round about way to raise prices for the stupid. You don't get a subsidised phone any longer and you don't get a break on the monthly plan price going this route. What you get is $30-$50 added on your bill every month to upgrade your phone once a year. You are better off signing the two year and taking the subsidy. If you want to upgrade early you sell you phone on ebay and buy a new one at full price you will come out ahead this way for sure. Even better you buy your phone out right from the start and use prepaid. You will be much further ahead this way.

On AT&T's new prepaid plans LTE is included. For $60 you get unlimited nationwide calls, unlimited text & mms, unlimited text to Mexico & Canada and 100 other countries, and 2GB of data. Not a bad deal. It is still more than the $45/month you pay but better than postpaid prices.

Hahaha! Business is business. At the very bottom, its geared to meke money. Any of these new twists on plans that any of these carriers do is somehow, somewhat going to make them money or they won't do it. They will always end up being ahead to make money. Case in point...why not even make everything simple. With the existing 24 months contract, why not just make ONE change? That is, offer a option to just trade in your original phone with a new one after 12 months and rollover another year to the contract. Simple! But what do they do? Create all these twists, in the end we all pay more.

AT&T are sucking the gullible "got to have the newest phone" customers dry. You still get effectively locked in, you get no subsidy, and you pay the same price for service as anyone else. For decades the phone companies have been telling us the service costs so much because of the subsidy. Now, they take away the subsidy, and the service still costs just as much. The FCC should investigate these companies.

The majority of cell phone consumers don't know that their monthly rates are the "subsidized price". After paying those rates for years the industry knows it is the "normalized rate".

Step 1: Lock in current rates for several years making them seem normal. We will buy their phones for now.

Step 2: Stop buying their phones. Give them the "power" to buy them and their selves. They are afraid to pay a lot up front though. Give them monthly payments. Americans love monthly payments.

Step 3: Don't change their monthly rates. They will continue to pay them as most of them know nothing else.

Step 4: Profit....like a lot

Bonus: We can sell the phones they trade in for even more profit.

This is pretty shady and extremely coincidental to happen all at once. For those saying they are copying T-Mobile, not likely. These plans are likely the product of months, if not years, of planning. More likely they colluded than copied, imo. Currently on Verizon but hey at least they were honest enough in their business strategy to call it an interest fee. When my contract is up next month, I may just buy full price (or used 3 months after release), and find a cheap CDMA plan like Boost. Think they use the same towers anyway.

Oh. Not sure why I said CDMA. My contract will be up then so I guess it doesn't matter, unless I want to used my Galaxy Nexus.

This is way more expensive than selling on EBAY or Craigslist after your sick of your phone. An extra $32/month? Wow. People do the math. Sell on the free market=Save $$$. It's good for stupid people to believe their getting a super deal.

Agreed. Especially with sites like swappa, it has never been easier to sell your phone and not deal with dumb plans like this from att. At least with tmobile you get insurance

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This is right up there with pawnshops/pay day loans on the scam meter. On one hand I can't believe they would think their average customers are stupid enough to buy into this, but then again they are right, their average customer is stupid enough to buy into this.

Right now tmobile still has better plans and better consumer friendly options. These other companies are trying to pretend they are doing the same yet they are still sticking it to the customer. Here in my area tmobile had hsdpa+ and average speed is 8-10mbps. A lot of times faster than Sprint lte here. On top of that there is great coverage everywhere including indoors plus a couple of lte towers have been popping up in several areas. By December I will decide if I'm sticking with Sprint or switching to tmobile. Right now tmobile is on a roll.

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So let's do some math...

The current / old way:

A $650 phone costs you $200 subsidized with a two year contract. You keep it for 12 months, sell it for at least $200 on Craigslist or Ebay, and then buy another $650 phone at full price off contract.

In 24 months, you have spent a net total of $650 and own the second phone you purchased. Or, you can sell the second phone for $200 and only be out a net total of $450 for phones over two years.

The new way:

A $650 phone costs you nothing up front, but you pay $32.50 per month for it. After 12 months, you have paid $390. You trade in that phone for another and continue paying $32.50 per month.

In 24 months, you have spent a net total of $780 and you still owe $260 more if you want to own the second phone you've been paying for.

So, thanks AT&T. You've found a way to trick people into paying almost twice as much for phones.

To look at it another way. You can fully own two phones for $850, to sell or do with as you wish, or, with this new program, you can rent, not own, those same two phones for $780.

You are correct that the old way is cheaper. However, you are overlooking several factors.

1. Selling the device - While it may seem easy for you, to others selling a phone on Ebay or Craigslist is a hassle and comes with risk. One bad transaction on Ebay or Craigslist could wipe out any savings you mention. I'm not saying you are likely to be defrauded on Ebay or Craigslist, but the possibility is still high enough to make worth mentioning. Plus there is the time that needs to be invested in that process. Time is money to some people.

2. Condition of device - Under your "old way" you must meticuloisly care for the device because any blemish or defect you cause will decrease the resale value. However, with a trade-in program it simply must be in working condition. This isn't to say that because you intend on trading it in you won't put a case on it, but you also won't be mortified when it happens to take a tumble or the screen gets scratched up.

3. Financing - Under your old way, the person either has to have the $650 available upfront to purchase the new phone, or put it on a credit card and pay interest unless they get some sort of low promo rate. Although these interest charges could be minor, they could also add up to a decent amount that would decrease the value of the "old way". Under this "new way", there is no explicit finance charge over the 20 months, although I am sure that these companies have factored that into their profit percentage (Verizon is on their own planet with their $2.50 a month finance charge).

So in my eyes I see convenience, worry-free usage, and 0% financing as big pluses.

1) Point taken. But even if you don't sell the phones, you only end up paying $70 more the old way and you have two phones to play around with, use for traveling, give to relatives, etc.

2) Again, point taken. But my estimate of $200 was pretty low. Even a banged up $650 phone should fetch $200 on Craigslist. Last year I sold a year old iPhone 4S 32GB in perfect condition for $400. Also, I just sold my 6 month old Nexus 4, which I bought for $350 new, for $280 on Craigslist.

3) If you can't afford the up front costs and need financing on something as cheap as a phone, you probably shouldn't be getting a new phone every 12 months in the first place.

@BigBrother This might make some sense if the monthly plans were cheaper, but they aren't. month to month vs my current plan would save me about 30 dollars a month. More for others. That's 360 in a year. $720 in 2. That's more than enough to buy your own phone outright. This all goes back to consumers thinking in the moment and not long term.

Who said Tmobile wasn't shaking up the industry again? Right. The big two are scared and for good reason. Tmobile is extremely relevant where the majority of people live.

lol this makes no sense. I just switched to ATT and now I wish I stayed with tmobile. I only switched because the new house I moved to has poor service and ATT is the only one that works
Att is offering no discount for the monthly plan, so you still end up paying more, which makes no sense. Wow...

These are good options. Of course the people with lots of patience and time on their hands are going to criticize these plans as more expensive than simply selling your phone on Ebay or Craigslist. However, those transactions come with risk. On Ebay you can be scammed by a buyer or hassled to the point that you wish you had never sold it to the person. On Craigslist you can be robbed or murdered even meeting in a public place.

But more importantly, the plans offer convenience. You simply ship your phone off to them and they sell it. You no longer have to carry your phone in a bubble pack scared that the slightest blemish will reduce the eventual resale value. And you don't have to spend the time that inhernatly coems with selling an item on the internet, or dealing with the haggling of a person-to-person deal on Craigslist.

With these plans I am sure they don't care if the screen is sctratched and the body scuffed or blemished... as this is usually considered wear and tear. Especially the T-Mobile Jump plan I see as a win-win for consumers.

Why is nobody mentioning reducing the cost of plans the subsidy amount. This is another way for all the carriers to make even more money off everybody who uses this plan. Pay subsidized plan prices and pay full price for phones???

T-mobile would not factor into your point since they don't subsidize. However, I agree that VZW and AT&T should offer a lower rate.

"You simply ship your phone off to them and they sell it. You no longer have to carry your phone in a bubble pack scared that the slightest blemish will reduce the eventual resale value."

Actually you'll be more likely to bubblewrap your phone. AT&T does not include insurance in the plan and have already stated that you may be on the hook for repairs if the phone is not in a good enough condition.

How is this a good option? You are paying for the phone twice? That is a bad option. Use s credit card. It's cheaper.

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Someone mentioned that consumers are getting "got" because plans costs aren't being lowered but we are paying the same as before now just to upgrade early? I have a friend who is on t-mobile and she pays around $80. That's with the installment. What's the deal? Is JUMP worth switching carriers?

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I think a person wanting Jump may be in a situation where they love the latest but can't front all the cash at once. I also think out of these people 25% will justify the payment plan like this: Well, I can spend $30.00 per month to buy beer or I can pay $17.00 per month and have the device I really want.

With T-Mobile the price of the plan was lowered if you chose not to subsidize your phone. Not sure about your friend but mine is much less now. With at&t you still pay the subsidized plan price while at the same time paying full price for the phone. RIPOFF

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This is a horrible deal. At least T-mobile will give you a cheaper monthly bill if you bring your own device. AT&T keeps your monthly charges the same (which *already* have a phone subsidy built in) and assesses a charge on top of that.

Since AT&T is doing the same thing I often wonder if AT&T or Verizon will ever bring back unlimited data. I left AT&T and went with T-Mobile because I just use way to much data and figuring a 3 month average I would be spending an extra $70.00 per month in overages. Not gonna lie in my area AT&T is the winner when it comes to network service but my wallet says T-Mobile. BTW I'm using the Nexus 4.

For those who don't get it, this is essentially a $184 annual fee for the privilege of upgrading every 12 months, rather than 24. Granted, that amount is slightly lower than the $250-$500 fees we have traditionally been forced to pay to upgrade early, but it's not exactly a bargain.

The math for the GS4 is simple:

A. Normal GS4 upgrade cost after 12 months = $200
B. Next Plan after 12 months = 12x32 = $384
Subtract A from B = Annual early upgrade fee = $184

Alternatively, you could wait the full 24 months to upgrade, sell the GS4 online for $200-$250, and use that money to pay for a fresh subsidized upgrade... rinse and repeat. I've been doing this for 6 years now with a total phone investment of just $200. (In my case, the beauty of it is that my employer's discount at AT&T brings my monthly rate down to T-mobile's prices... so, I'm basically winning all around! lol)

I know this is supposed to be an "upgrade" to their services, but I'd really be happy if this constituted a change to their terms and conditions so I could leave AT&T without an ETF.

T-Mo, at this point, is just much better where I'm at in terms of plans, early upgrades etc.

Do the math, this is a very bad deal. Both this and (even worse) the Tmobile Jump program will cost you way more than just purchasing your 2nd upgrade at full retail. There is a really good graph at learningcameras.com oddly enough that shows the exact costs of these programs over two years vs what it would be if you upgraded yourself and the difference is huge. We should know by now that if a carrier announces anything, it is designed to make them more money.

I've already had something like this with AT&T, but better! Its called a ghost line for 10 bucks extra a month I get an upgrade every year.

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AT&T experts can correct me but I just did a calculation on my family moving to a shared data plan. We have four phones with data plans, plus unlimited family texting.
-Unlimited (waiting for it to be taken from me): $30
-3GB: $30
-300MB: $20
-200MB: $15
-Texting: $30
Messaging and data cost: $125

Shared plan (which has a cost for each smartphone added):
-6GB: $230 (90+35+35+35)
-10GB: $240 (120+30+30+30)

Ummmmmmm wow if I calculated that right.

This plan was created first by T-Mobile, I think. But it's aimed specifically at the ADHD consumer who needs to have the "Newest and best" product as soon as it comes out. It's a poor value, mainly because you'll be paying full price for the phone if you decide to keep it for two years, half the price if you decide to trade it in before you finish paying. Rest assured, you have to trade it in to get the next upgrade.
Since few of us actually leave our providers (I've been with AT&T for over a decade and I know many Verizon customers who are the same way) being locked down to a contract shouldn't matter. So I'm paying less that half of retail value for a phone that I'm sure will serve me well for at least a year of not the whole two. But what if I want the "newest and best?"
Here's the reality, most consumers who get a smart phone rarely use it to it's full capabilities so they're paying top dollar yet only using a fraction of what they pay for. Sucker born every minute. With this new plan, you pay for half your phone, return it and get a new one. It's like a car dealership. The phone's value decreases much faster than you're paying. If you pay the full price over the two years it's value is a fraction of the original. If you're not going to finish paying and instead opt to trade it in before it's paid for, the money you spent on it up to that point is spent and you are unable to sell it to recover any of it.
Here's what I find, most phones upgrade their hardware on average once a year. And the software roll-outs about the same. (iPhone once a year, Galaxy series every summer, galaxy Note series every fall) I have two phone lines, one for myself and one for my 78 year old mom. She doesn't want or need a phone upgrade every year, and neither would most of your teenage children. So I upgrade my phone once a year when the latest one comes out, if mom (or in your case whoever else shares your plan) wants an upgrade I give her my old phone, and she's overjoyed. Usually she doesn't need one, three years before she wanted the last upgrade. And it's been eight months since I gave her my Note 1 and she's still learning how to use it!
So, since I get to keep my phone on the two year contract, I post it to eBay, usually recover more than half of what I paid, a couple of times I got the full amount I paid (discount price with two year contract), and keep the cycle going. I find it the best way to get full value out of my phone.
I'm also a bit of a tech geek, so you can rest assured I use all the bells and whistles that I paid for when I use my smart phone. I hope this helps some of you to find a new way to get value for your tech expenditures.