rotten to the core

Apple has once again called Samsung into court. This time it's about the Galaxy Nexus and four patents that Apple says it infringes. The patents in question are:

Apple is requesting that the Samsung Galaxy Nexus be blocked from sale in the United States because it violates these patents.  Should the court find in favor of Apple, a ban against the Galaxy Nexus would be put in effect until the final court decision.  

Could it happen? Certainly. But if it does, it won't go into effect any time soon, it would only affect stores inside the U.S. selling these products, and no jack-booted thugs from Cupertino will come pry your Nexus from your hands. We can't be sure how the courts will act, but all of these are pretty shaky patents, and once again Apple is not going after Google directly -- even though the Galaxy Nexus has a pure vanilla version of Android.  The only certainty here is that the patent system is broken and only serves the company willing to spend the most in the courts.

It's time for Google to step in and put a stop to this bullshit. The first patent in question is the same one that was upheld against HTC in a move that shocked the tech community at large, essentially giving Apple the rights to the hyperlink -- something invented over 20 years ago by numerous companies that aren't Apple.

The other three are just as laughable, or would be if not for the fact that Apple was allowed to secure the patents at all. Every single one of them has existed as prior art long before Apple became relevant, yet a patent was granted each and every time. This is the core of the problem. You can't blame Apple for trying, it's cheaper to litigate away your competition than it is to out-innovate them.  And make no mistake -- that's exactly what's going on here.  Apple wants Android to go away, and a look at any chart that shows market share will tell you why.  It's a shitty way to get ahead, but it's too easy not to try. It's going to take a tech giant to change the way this all works, and we know nobody can count on Apple or Microsoft to do it, because this is their system, created the way they like it, and making them rich. If Apple is afraid to go after Google, Google needs to go after Apple instead of sitting on their laurels waiting to ride in and save the day at the last minute.

Now blast away in the comments, telling me how subsection F of title code XXIVI (or some other ridiculous lawyer speak) makes my points invalid. In reality, they make it even more valid -- spending money on lawyers, and twisting common sense into something that kills your competition works with the current patent system. That makes us sad.

 
There are 187 comments

IceDree says:

When all this lawsuits & Injunctions gonna stop ?

When it's no longer profitable for lawyers, judges, and tech companies.

angermeans says:

Which sadly means it will never end

msfraser302 says:

Probably never... In Delaware there a multiple cases filed almost daily... http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-delaware/noscat-10/nos-830/

rchap says:

Steve Jobs said he will spend every dime Apple has till Google stops stealing there stuff. His autobiography was very interesting on how Android came to be. It felt very similar to Apple's beef with MS and windows.

DrDoppio says:

And will end in a similar way.

rchap says:

With Google bailing out Apple so that the company will survive? Not very likely.

DrDoppio says:

LOL, no, not like that... more like Android taking most of the market, and iOS keeping a healthy share of profits from the high-end.

1LoudLS says:

he going to have a hard time doing that now isn't he?

spartan1308 says:

I think the end will come soon if the DOJ approves the Google Motorola merger as expected. Google will then have sufficient patent standing to tell Apple to shut up or shut down.

uofmike says:

I believe Palm had universal search way before iOS and if they didn't, so sue me

They also have the patent to the Smartphone. No-one ever mentions Palm... Wonder why ;-)

uofmike says:

Wouldn't that be awesome if HP just sued Apple, and only Apple, just to be a dick about it... I mean an Apple about it.

Snipperdo17 says:

Bitter much? Who cares dude. Doesn't affect anyone or your family who cares what they want to do in the courts

Yadao says:

You should care. It has a ripple effect. Higher prices, monopolies, lack of innovation, etc.

rchap says:

People constantly claim that these patent laws hold back innovation, and I totally disagree. It holds back iteration. If you look at the iPhone at its core, thats an innovative product. Anything anyone has done since then has been very iterative on there idea, and added new features.

When these patents stop someone from doing something truly innovative instead of using the same idea's someone else already did, then I'll agree with you.

So Google having to spend BILLIONS of dollars buying up patents to defend themselves don't hold back innovation?

I'm sure that money could have been better spent on R&D.

rchap says:

No because they haven't made an innovative product. They took an innovative idea (the iPhone) and iterated on it (and did a damn good job iterating). If this was a truly innovative product they shouldn't have to worry about this.

bdfull3r says:

the iPhone wasn't innovative. It wasn't the first phone with a touchscreen or apps or rectangle candy bar form factor. It was a very polished model but it wasn't something new.

rchap says:

It was the first purely touchscreen phone without any other input device. It was also the first multitouch phone. Also the first phone to use glass. . . it had a lot of firsts.

Just so I don't come off to fanboyish on this, while I do have an iPhone I actually plan on switching to a Samsung Galaxy Note. I think android is a great product, but its iterative, not innovative.

ScottJ says:

The Apple trolls are out in force.

DrDoppio says:

That's completely misinformed... The iPhone was not uniquely innovative, just the most successful product at the time. Most of its features were already available in smartphones or pocket computers by other manufacturers. Neither Nokia's Symbian or Meego, nor Microsoft's WP needed an iPhone. You are drawing an arbitrary line between what you call innovation and iteration.

Shadowriver says:

It was first phone with capacitive touch screen (they buyed company who invented that) and first to provide multi-touch, and lack of most physical buttons (that MS CEO laugh full mouth about it btw... now they supporting such phones themselves). Apple brings a lot of new things to table, but some people are simply blinded by hate to Apple to see it

ScottJ says:

Apple took advantage of the maturing of key technologies that made the device possible. They hit the timing just perfect. Good on them. They made billions. Now they need to compete as the rest of the market has caught up and surpassed them in many ways.

Because Apple was so truly innovative? Come on, most of what Apple did was already done before. They marketed the phone well and that's all they did. Did you know they even stole the iPhone name? That has been around since 98...get a grip. Apple did not innovate anything but marketing a cell phone.

crxssi says:

It affects ALL OF US. Software patents are just plain stupid. They are a horrible abuse of the patent system. They ends up costing all consumers extra money and stifling innovation; holding back new products and technologies.

Bwild says:

BAAMMM! That's what's up!

1LoudLS says:

this is why your an idiot, it effects every one of us including you! every one of these companies spends millions and millions of dollars in court because of this same sh!t cutting into their profits and in return they dick us with footing the bills. with out these shenanigans, phones would be a lot better priced.

Yadao says:

Apple is like a stupid little kid poking a sleeping pit bull with a stick...

victor3451 says:

Except the Pit Bull can't do much... Apple sues Samsung, Samsung sues Apple, and so on and so forth...

RoninX says:

Wait until the Google/Motorola merger is complete -- possibly as soon as next week. Then that pit bull will have a rocket launcher.

Payback's a bitch.

belniente says:

Kid pokes pit bull, pit bull bites kid, pit bull gets euthanized.

It's certainly what Apple hopes for at least.

garmiblis says:

Ironically enough, it's those "perfect world" apple douches that made it standard to euthanize a dog that bites someone...no matter what that person does to them.

"The world should only behave the way I I I! want it to, no matter how bad I treat it!"

victor3451 says:

I know everyone here is going to be really pissed at Apple, but if you've read Steve Jobs' Biography it says that he wanted to destroy Android because it was a stolen idea, so he would spend every single dime of Apple's money if necessary to do that. So, although these lawsuits are not rational, they are expected. Probably even Apple knows they're stupid, but they'll try EVERYTHING.

crxssi says:

I don't know about anyone else, but I am pissed at ALL companies using software patents. At least Google tried to stay out of this stupid stuff, but it looks like they are going to have to also play this unproductive game.

melhiore says:

Jobs is dead, why people should follow his stupid ideas?? Oh, I know, it is called Jobs Church...

victor3451 says:

Because Apple has followed, follows, and will always follow Jobs' style, dumbass.

Even when they tossed him out of the company he founded?

jp719 says:

he was a buddist so its jobism

15israellai says:

There'll be a St Jobs Cathedral soon.

DrDoppio says:

Nothing irrational about the lawsuits, they're after more money (our money).

dchawk81 says:

Don't eat the apple; it's poisoned.

MrZackarius says:

I don't even respect apple anymore (not that I ever have). I hate apple now.

mclifford82 says:

I don't even respect apple anymore (not that I ever have). I hate apple now (just like I always did)

Fixed that.

SteveIowa says:

Jerry said "bullshit' I'm tellin . . . . . : - )

chevca says:

Well one thing about this nonsense that effects all of us is the courts themselves, who do you pays for them? And really my question is how much money do these guys need anyway? And let's also think about how this hampers innovation, since itbseems anyone can patent something just for the sake of holding the patent. So if let's say I for example come up with some new app, launch it becomes like Russian Roulette someone somewhere could have a piece of paper and I'm screwed.

Something needs to change.

Animus_3.0 says:

With each and every one of these pathetic attempts by Apple to rid their competition, I lose more respect for them. Desperate actions.

What amazes me is that even tho the man is dead. and we now know from the biographies what a terrible man he was. That these people still follow him. The only thing Steve jobs was good at was lying for his own personal agenda. Grrrr...I hate apple.

DrDoppio says:

Jobs's irrational hatred for Android is a fairy tale they tell... In reality, the attack on Android is a very calculated attempt to keep profit margins as high as possible. It's always been about money, Jobs's death doesn't change that.

wraith404 says:

Shame, he died for nothing then.

vinny jr says:

Apple is pathetic. Will never buy any of their products. My entire family will never buy Apple and many other people are feeling this way. I'm talking Android users and past Apple fan boys. Apple is ruining their good name IMO. This will bite them in their ass very soon. The court systems can not buy into this sneaky bull shit. I'm hoping Google grows some balls and goes after Apple with the help of some of the other major companies that Apple has screwed. Fuck Apple and all the asses involved.

Apple is a real douchebag in the tech world since they not only sue other tech companies over outdated patents, but they also sue other companies over such trivial things like logos and names of those companies or the products they sell. Like the case where Apple sued a coffee-house over their name and logo! look it up: Apple sues German cafe

I wrote an article for my blog on this whole patent warfare in the tech world. I got a lot more examples of Apple's douchbagy behavior when it comes to their competition and their "non-competition".
Anybody wanna give it a read:
http://madrussianstechblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/more-patents-less-compet...

mclifford82 says:

Apple isn't the only company to sue over trademarks. In fact, companies that don't try to protect their trademarks can easily lose them.

ScottJ says:

Trademarks and patents are two different things. Buy a clue.

True, but Apple are the only ones that seem to sue EVERYTHING with "apple", "i", or "pod" in it's name and everything that has an apple for a logo. The example that I used, with the German cafe, their logo looks nothing like Apple's logo and yet Apple seems to believe that people will be too stupid to realize the difference.

Shadowriver says:

Most companies that do that are the once who want to catch Apple trand wave ;p

ScottJ says:

Huh? I know about typos. I make them from time time. I also know there's an edit button and I correct my mistakes when I find them.

I have no idea what you were trying to say.

yapkuen says:

This article would be more respectable if it at least got the forum correct. This latest round is not in the ITC.

leftheodo says:

They are suing a Google phone for a search patent? WTF?

CaptDigB says:

Apple sucks im boycotting there products and spreading the word against them to any one who will listen.

Captains Log says:

ATAST!!

mclifford82 says:

That's never going to catch on. Sorry.

These lawsuits don't even need to be posted anymore. It seems they come daily. I enjoy Apple and Android products. Typing this on my Macbook Pro, had a EVO 4G switched to the iPhone 4s and the phone itself was good. Sprint's network was trash though. Cancelled 3 lines because of the change of contract in FEB (no ETF) and no I have the unlocked Galaxy Nexus. I don't know whats the issue really. I don't think the problem is marketshare though. I just read a article yesterday saying Apple has like 80% of the mobile phone profits.

n0obpr0 says:

Is it wrong that I was tempted to dance to this? :(

Masterintown says:

When are you Androids going to LEARN.

Listen from the Master and repeat after me.

"Android is a stolen product. It will be extinct in 2 years. We are all in a denial phase. We will come to the acceptance phase very soon"

leftheodo says:

The OS with more than 45% of marketshare is going to extinct? And you call Android a stolen product when all of the "new" features of iOS 5 are stolen from Android? Stick with your iPhone, Albert! You deserve it!

...I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic

leftheodo says:

You should take a look at the rest of his comments! At first I thought he was sarcastic too but it seems he really is an iDiot!

15israellai says:

You got the point. Huh iOS 5? Android without Widgets.

DrDoppio says:

..and without proper access to the file system, without selectable apps for default actions, without many of Google's free apps, without seamless system integration of social apps, without alternative app vendors, without open source allowing for third-party modifications, without multiple competing manufactures for the best custom hardware, the list goes on and on...

jroc says:

"It will be extinct in 2 years..."

I know....folks said that in 2010 too. So what is it...every year some one will tack on 2 years until hopefully their prediction is right?

Sounds like the rapture to me...

OS X was a stolen productand where is it now?

Android was in development before iOS came out...

Your logic is flawed :)

chubb says:

Apple will only stop when they have 100% market share or they go bankrupt. I am hoping for the latter. Googlerola will destroy them.

Masterintown says:

Wait until EU impose anti-trust ruling with a huge fine. Then we will know who goes bankrupt.

mclifford82 says:

So you hope Apple goes bankrupt and all the people working there lose their jobs? What an ass.

ScottJ says:

All those Foxconn workers are going to have find a different sweatshop.

leftheodo says:

edit: wrong post!

chubb says:

All the people at Foxcon will keep there jobs relax. Its the idiot's in California that will I hope. Call me an asshole or whatever I don't care. But if I worked for a company that did nothing but sue companies because they make a better product I would leave. Shall I add the iTrools are out in droves tonight. Hmm must be scared of something. :p

jimmy5cent says:

Do you think that all of these lawsuits might lead to google trying to purchase palm from HP? The only thing that I can thing of is what if after ford produced the model T he sued everyone who attempted to build a vehicle because they used a steering wheel, or two axles, or because it used a transmission? The other thing I can't help to think is what is apple so afraid of? If they believe their product is better than why worry?

mech1164 says:

At this point it would be the best option. Heck the 1.2 bil would be cheap insurance against Apple. Then Googlerolla Will say point blank "Stop this now or we will ANNIHILATE YOU!". With those patents they would have the muscle to back it up to. Heck then Duarte can truly combine WebOS into Android. Oh I can dream can't I?

LaFlamme says:

I spent part of the day cleaning stuff off an old iPod Touch. Things that would take seconds on Android had to be researched and completed through arduous steps between the device and iTunes. I'm reminded why I despise all things Apple. They're so damn unwilling to turn any control over to the user and the result is misery and frustration. Android be praised.

Masterintown says:

Lol. I wonder why millions of Androids are jumping ship into iOS camp as soon as iPhone is available on their carrier. Because iOS is difficult to use?

JFRANEY01 says:

cause they're hipsters...who probably wear Ray Bans, deep V-necks, Chuck Taylors, and roll up their pant legs.

ScottJ says:

The troll is delusional. Android has increased its share of smartphones in the most recent numbers.

Mr.Froyo says:

Hey my friend got Ray bans and wears V necks, he's not a hipster though

hmackenz says:

*hides behind GNex in hopes that no one sees me wearing all of these things*

ScottJ says:

You are a sublime troll. You get people to bite on that hook like nobody's business. You truly are a master baiter.

Masterintown says:

When you have no good reply, you call other people trolls. Keep it up.

ScottJ says:

Spoken like a true adroit toll. I bow humbly in your presence.

LaFlamme says:

I don't know a single person who's gone in that direction. If I did, I check him for lobotomy scars.

Masterintown says:

If you can look at AT&T, Verizon and Sprint Quarterly earnings report you will know how many jumped ship.

ScottJ says:

Uh huh. If you say so. We must have imagined Android increasing its marketshare of smartphones. Yep.

Masterintown says:

Sir, if you can please have another look at the latest NPD and Comscore data you will know what i am talking about. Android momemtum has stalled. Market share gains are mostly outside USA. The share gain of Android is flattening and the only directly it will go from here is South.

Android still has momentum in China and India. Enjoy that, as it will reverse also when China Telecom releases iPhone 4S. China Mobile may telease iPhone5 late this year or early 2013.

ScottJ says:

Apple would kill, probably literally, for 50% of the market. They have to settle for less than 30. Microsoft has 1%. RIM is crashing. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that interpretation there.

chubb says:

Heard this before. When the iPhone comes to Verizon its the end of Android. iPhone 4s is the end of Android and blah blah blah.

15israellai says:

Welcome, sire, to the world outside the USA.

chubb says:

Only millions of Android users are not jumping ship. Numbers don't lie and Androids growing in market share faster than Apple. One device a year vs 10 great devices a year, not too hard to figure out who will win. Apple has the fanbois and new smartphone owners buying. Look into the future when Apple has <10% share, like windows vs Mac in the 80s and 90s, and Android has 80%, then we will see who is laughing.

n0obpr0 says:

F*ck Apple and everything they stand for. I only own an iTouch but that's before they started acting like b*tches.

SN: I like the crapple logo Jerry lol It's my fb profile picture xD!

Commodus says:

There's a bit too much of that "Apple is evil ARGLE BARGLE GRRR" oversimplification going on here. The patents aren't as simple as covering basic ideas: they're referring to specific implementations. Whether or not Samsung and Android are that close is up for debate, but it's time we stop thinking that Apple is only patenting everything basic and that the solutions are "obvious;" of course they aren't, or Microsoft would have used them in Windows Mobile.

Also, don't pretend that Samsung is the innocent lamb here. Most if not all of Samsung's countering lawsuits are abusing 3G standards patents that it's supposed to be licensing fairly; it's under an EU investigation for that reason. If Samsung were the saint, it'd at least try to roll in some non-standards patents.

Boycotting or fuming at Apple seems silly, too, given that some critics argue that Samsung corrupts Korean politics and has had too much influence on local society. At a certain point you have to acknowledge that many corporations do questionable things; you don't have to like it, but avoiding one dodgy practice to support a company committing another reminds me of that Simpsons alien election bit: "don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"

n0obpr0 says:

I voted for Pedro =)

Masterintown says:

Bravo Aurelian !

Well said. I can't understand why all these people can't understand this basic fact.

Hatred is ok. But letting hatred towards Apple cloud your reasoning and judgement is pitiful.

ScottJ says:

Wow! It's a troll circle jerk.

ScottJ says:

Now that I think about it, a better metaphor would be the HumancentiPad, since they are all Jobs' bitches: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynpnYh4o_Qo

15israellai says:

Omg now that is true innovation. They've got to patent that

ScottJ says:

I see what you did there. You tried to make it about Samsung. It's not. It's an assault on Android. Samsung just happens to have the most successful and visible iPad alternative so far. That's why they are being targeted.

All software patents should be invalidated. They are ridiculous no matter who holds them.

Commodus says:

I agree software patents are silly, but remember, most of Apple's case around Samsung still revolves around design issues; that Samsung very conspicuously emulated the basic look of an iPhone (not so much the iPad). Ever see an international Galaxy S, S II, or Note? Wonder why that big, physical home button at the bottom mysteriously goes away only on the US version of the same phone?

Of course, Apple's real target is Android. Personally, I'd have never started such action, but it's important to note that neither Google nor Samsung was running out and securing a lot of these patents. Just because you don't plan to fight the patent wars doesn't mean you shouldn't come prepared to defend yourself. Patent lawsuits are common in tech, whether it's from a big rival or a no-name LLC trying to troll the industry for cash. You can't choose to avoid the game when playing is mandatory.

I'm not so sure the Galaxy Tab line is being slammed solely because it was the biggest rival, though. If you look at an HTC Flyer, there's no question that you're not looking at an iPad. Not quite so clear with the Galaxy Tab 10.1, even if I'd let it slide myself. Samsung even made the mistake of saying, very publicly, that it would "not be outdone" after it was caught off-guard by the iPad 2. It's the one that unveiled a conveniently redesigned Galaxy Tab 10.1 three weeks after the iPad 2 was out. I should know: I was at the trade shows where it showed both versions.

ScottJ says:

When you have a sparse minimalist, function-driven design, I think you pretty much lose the right to cry fowl when others do the same. There's only certain ways a tablet can be made. Apple has tried to pretend that they should have a monopoly on the black slate tablet. This simply cannot be allowed, and if trade law points to the correctness of Apple's position, then it needs to be severely overhauled in order to preserve a competitive landscape.

RoninX says:

So I assume you're not supporting Apple either?

Commodus says:

If I had my way, none of this would've started... well, maybe griefing Samsung over trying to copy the iPhone with that home button and TouchWiz, but not the iPad. And I'd probably have taken a one-time reasonable settlement on the design at that.

Danrarbc says:

"The patents aren't as simple as covering basic ideas: they're referring to specific implementations."

Like the slide to unlock? Because the ICS 'specific implementation' is NOTHING like the iPhone unlock.

dan4patriots says:

stay classy Jerry :) “It's time for Google to step in and put a stop to this bullshit...It's a shitty way to get ahead”

Masterintown says:

Can you tell what Google can do by "Stepping In". :)

DrDoppio says:

Google has never sued anyone for patent infringement, despite having revolutionized the Internet with their search and holding many patents through companies that they purchased over the years. If Google steps in, that would be a step back from the "don't be evil" moto. I hope courts rule against Apple so that Google doesn't have to use their patents defensively to keep their products on the market.

Jerry,

I always love reading your posts as they're always energetic and full of hotblooded passion. So no surprise that this post is as hotblooded as they come.

Let me preface this by saying I myself am an iPhone 4 user. While my first smartphone was a G1 and I loved it for a time. Android as a whole does not fit my needs and I've never looked back since leaving it.

That being said I wholeheartedly agree with you. This entire patent game is crap and really needs to be addressed. The amount of money these companies are spending suing each other could better be used developing better products and services. Yes Apple has a right to defend itself just as Google and the entire Android ecosystem has the right to defend itself against copycats and the like, but the problem here is Apple is on a crusade to pretty much destroy Android, it's gone from protecting the business to a personal matter and really it's just childish.

As much as I'd love to see Tim Cook show some initiative and extend an olive branch to Android as a whole it's not going to happen. Not as long as patents are being handed out for things like the Hyperlink. Do the people in the USPTO even know what technology is, or all they all still stuck in 1960?

Anyway keep the work AC team and never lose that fiery passion Jerry.

Mr.Froyo says:

I'm sorry we dont have instagram to keep you entertained :P

/sarcasm

15israellai says:

Finally a comment from an Apple user that doesn't sound like trolling.

Paul627g says:

Apple must be finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel to keep throwing out all these lawsuits....

Android is taking over and Apple sees it coming...

Masterintown says:

ROFLMAO

ScottJ says:

You can roll all you want. Apple brought out the 4S and didn't budge the marketshare numbers for Q4 2011. Their walled-garden vertical strategy which served them so well in the early market is the anchor that is dragging them down.

Deutch says:

ROFLMAO

vito55 says:

The only part of this post where I take exception is where you say Apple is suing instead of out innovating. Apple has been out innovating its competition for over 30 years.

chubb says:

Innovate. What the hell did Apple ever create, or innovate. All they do is buy out innovative companies and tell you trolls its magical. Sad thing is you people believe it like its the best thing since.sliced bread.Yes Android was bought by Google, but look at what they've done with it. More than Apple has done with iOS. They have now resorted to stealing notifications from Android, messaging from BB just to stay relevant. Now that Jobs can never come to the rescue again, goodbye Apple been sad knowing ya.

Masterintown says:

This guy is funny. I like him.

15israellai says:

Fandroids call you a troll when they fail to reply. You say this when you get beaten.

15israellai says:

Double post. Fail.

DrDoppio says:

+1000

victor3451 says:

Ok, you guys don't like apple fanboys, so don't be a fandroid either.
If it weren't for apple most people would not have smartphones or tablets. THAT IS A FACT! ALMOST NO ONE had a tablet before 2010, now it's extremely popular. That's because they sucked before 2010, they ran Windows!
Apple takes ideas that didn't go well and make them good, they show people and companies how stuff is supposed to work. Now, it doesn't matter if you like Apple or not, if that isn't innovating I really don't know what is.

And, "just to stay relevant"? Really? Do you read any news or blogs besides this one? Apple's got 43% of smartphone market share last quarter and android's got 48%. The iPad is the most popular tablet, the iPhone is the most popular smartphone, the iPod is the most popular mobile music player, and the iMac is the most popular all-in-one computer out there. Apple is the most valuable company in the world.
You like android, good for you, so do I (I'm CRAZY TO BUY A GNEX!!!!!!), but things are working quite well for Apple. So at least say rational things.

ScottJ says:

I actually like the iPhone. For many years I yearned for one but couldn't bring myself to switch to the onerous AT&T for the privilege. By the time that choosing the iPhone was an option for me, it had lost a lot of its luster. By then, I understood the flaws in Apple's implementation. I also had grown to hate iTunes even more than I did previously through my frustrating interactions with it and my iPod Touches. When I first got to use an Android phone, it was even more apparent how stifling iOS is. It was like being let out of jail. I've never looked back.

I've been called an Android fanboy before but I shirk the label. I'm a realist, I completely understand the appeal of the iPhone and it's strengths and weaknesses. I also recognize and admit the limitations in the Google approach. However, for me, Android is the only way to go.

I don't think Android is the right choice for everyone, just most people. The problem is the Apple fanboy/trolls can't stand that there's a legitimate alternative to their toy of choice. They also support Apple litigating instead of innovating. That's why we fight them.

jroc says:

Well Before Android I had a Win Mo smartphone....so I dont get that where you say if not for Apple most ppl wouldnt have a smartphone.

MS woulda still been a close #2 to Apple and probably would be in the limelight now if not for Android.

What hurt MS IMO was shoddy hardware and trying to put a desktop OS on a phone instead of design a mobile OS.

jp719 says:

what are apple fanboys doing on an android dedicated website? you know you have a desire for android. i hope apple fails and google succeeds

Masterintown says:

Please keep hoping. As there is no chance it will come true.

Where is the fun if we Applelites let you all hallucinate together. :

iOS will eat away Android. Siri will eat away Google's ad $. Facebook taking the diplay ad $ from Google. Google is on the path to destroy their search by integrating Google+ into it.

(By the way...the only thng i like about Google is its search. I am not sure how long people will use it as their first preference if the quality of the results are not any better than Bing after integrating junk into heir search algorithm.

chubb says:

How about Google maps. Nothing can compare for the price.

Masterintown says:

Apple signed a one year contract in October 2011 with google for their mapping services. It is working on its own Mapping software as they bought many mapping companies including the 3D mapping companies ....poly9! C3 technologies etc. They have been working on it for the last 2-3 years. IMO their map app should be available by Oct 2012 and should be mind boggling.

See for ur self.
http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/29/apple-acquired-mind-blowing-3d-mapping-com...

chubb says:

This proves the point that Apple does not innovate. They buy companies that do and market them as "original" and "magical". Meh

Masterintown says:

Don't smoke all of it yourself. Pass it on to others here at AC. LOL.

Masterintown says:

Apple buys small companies like these for thier talent and they build the products for Apple. Google steals others products. Thats the basic difference.

Apple bought 2 companies (very small ones for a total less than 500 million i think) in 2011. Google bought nearly 15 companies including Moto for a total of about 15billion. Thats another difference.

Apple bought Siri for a tiny amount 2 years ago. Used their talent and integrated with Nuance to build Siri for iPhone4S which is a blockbuster. Google stole the guy from paypal to create Google Wallet which is a big flop. Thats the ifference.

ScottJ says:

Siri is a gimmick that didn't pan out. The only people not disappointed by the 4S release are out-of-their-mind fanboys who would put a phone made out of human excrement up to their ear if it was released by Apple.

Based on your detachment from reality, I'm guessing you're in this category.

92turbo2 says:

do you really listen to yourself before you post these comments, your delusional, as all apple people are for believing apple can innovate, and you just proved that they cant, they bought all those companies to make the software for apple, so apple did not invent any of this stuff, THEY CANT INNOVATE, all i have to say is at least google is CREATING this stuff themselves and not buying other companies, and patent THEIR technologies and call it their innovation

everybody who believes steve jobs or apple can innovate, should be committed
your intestines can innovate more than apple can as your intestines produce shit like apple

15israellai says:

"Apple buys small companies like these for thier talent and they build the products for Apple. Google steals others products. Thats the basic difference." I've never seen anything more biased than this.

davidnc says:

HAHAAHA like aple's never stolen anything HUH , Convince yourself maybe but history has proven that is a totaly False statement.

DrDoppio says:

Siri was working on the iPhone even before Apple bought it -- they just integrated it with the OS, which usually works seamlessly for third-party software on Android without any OS modifications.

Google has a huge range of products that are constantly being developed, go to http://www.google.com/intl/en/about/products/index.html and get some clue.

Apple has some 100 billion in the bank that they don't know what to do with. Google invest their money, some times less wisely than others. That's one more difference for you.

fasteddie711 says:

Being able to patent slide to unlock is like being able to patent turning a doorknob to the right to open a door. These stupid gesture based patents should not be allowed. If they are...I'm gonna patent the turning of door knobs so that every time someone turns one I get compensated, or use the window...

15israellai says:

Quick, do it. That's more innovative than ever. Patent the turning of door knobs to defend your "innovation"!

jp719 says:

why doesnt sue apple here in the U.S. instead of Germany. And the only reason apple sued here is because they know android is a huge threat here and as were android already dominates Europe

Masterintown says:

You don't know what you are talking about. Do you?

chubb says:

Your bridge has been fixed.

Go home you troll.

Masterintown says:

Whats up with all the Andoidites. Don't have enough intellect to reply intelligently. Hmm my bad. What else can i expect.

chubb says:

No we don't feed any trolls her AC. In case no one told ya the best part of you tan down your mammas leg.

Masterintown says:

God bless you.

chubb says:

No use don't believe in god or religion

Masterintown says:

That is ok.God still loves you.

chubb says:

How can a god that do sent exist love me? Nevrmind done with this have better things to do. PS fuck Apple, Jobs, and every shareholder and masterintown meh douchebag. On another note tell your momma she needs to take those dentures out.

Masterintown says:

God will forgive another 999998 of your sins. Then your are screwd. Let the countdown begin. LOL.

ScottJ says:

A non-existent imaginary entity cannot forgive anything.

Masterintown says:

Had fun tonight with you dude. Keep praying God to save Android as it is doomed.

LOL.

Good night.

ScottJ says:

You can't pray to a non-existent deity. Man, you are crazier than I thought.

15israellai says:

You're insulting God by failing to reason.

DrDoppio says:

Ugh, a pro-Apple troll spamming the thread with religion? Why am I not surprised...

Masterintown says:

Replied to wrong post. Delete.

DrDoppio says:

Signed-up on the wrong forum. Delete account.

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efn77mx says:

I currently have an iPhone 4 and will admit it's a good device. But this thing with Apple is just getting WAY out of hand. I honestly hope that AT&T WILL get the Galaxy Nexus in the future so that I can get away from Apple. This stupid bickering...Apple doesn't deserve any further support from me.

extraclass says:

Modern software was not invented! It has evolved in a zillion steps, everyone taking something from the last step. No one can patent every step!

Google needs to step up and just say no to Apple!

I also get tired of News organizations saying something like "watch us on your IPhone with the News App" We all know the same app is available on Android. It is past time Google put a stop to this too! Or at least do some advertising of their own!

Some of my family think the Iphone is far superior to the Android because all of these app only available for the Iphone. They are surprised when I show them that app on my Android!

craigrn16 says:

Slide to unluck? Universal search? Word completion? Every freaking smart phone has this feature. Give me a break

DrDoppio says:

I'd prefer to have "slide to luck"...

Google should step in and sue Apple's sorry a$$ on blatantly stole and integrated the pull-down notification in iOS. Hey Apple, are you gonna claim Notification Center one of your patents too?

Word completion patent? Hello, ever heard of AJAX, Apple? I guess you patented that too? Word completion has long been a standard feature in software development.

All these lawsuits and injunctions just prove the point. Apple is getting scared and is losing Market shares. Without Steve Jobs, they will be back to what they were when Steve left Apple.

lilredtb3 says:

Hell, if my sales were constantly declining and people were leaving to what I think is superior, , I would try to sue somebody too!!! LOL. Poor apple, had to find out the hard way that Android is tha Sh*+ !!!

mrhaddan says:

Hey apple, without the invention of unix, you probably wouldnt be around. steve jobs wouldnt be anything without dennis ritchie. Why sue over such stupid patents. These are things that have been used for many years, by many different companies worldwide. Get over yourselves apple.

92turbo2 says:

Steve Jobs is Dead, praise the lord, how he become big, is anybodys guess, cant innovate, steals ideas from android and palm and then patents them and makes people think they created it, then sues the company that actually invented it, 100% crap, apple is crap, the shit on the bottom of my shoes have worth the apple

Apple blows. I really hope they don't win this thing.

15israellai says:

One sentence says it all. F**k you Apple. Stop doing nonsensical anti-competition stuff. I can't stand them actually stealing innovations, make them their own, then go and sue others. I guess parenting something means "hey I'm the first one to patent this!" And that's all.

15israellai says:

Double post.

15israellai says:

Triple post. I'll never comment with my phone again.

DrDoppio says:

Serves you well for getting a Windows phone ;)

jroc says:

It took me a minute to realize that was a picture of a rotten Apple.... :(

Swavek says:

Easy or not, using litigation to subdue your competition seems unethical and being a bad sport. At least in this case it does. What's next? Apple will send some ninjas to the families of the executives than demand that they stop doing business?

kicoman says:

Reminds me of the Motorola days prior to General Electric becoming Erickson. Uniden had the fastest business class trunking system out there, GE had the Sweet 16 named after the APCO namesake requirements that it contained, and Motorola with its SmartNet system.

Funny thing is trunking has been around since 1967 when the military began using it. And contrary to popular belief ANY frequency can be trunked. Not just the 800 Mhz spectrum.

Apple has become the whiner in the pack of technology giants. When someone else has better shoes so to speak, they are quick to run to the front of the RF class and whine to daddy.

As the author states, instead of whining your asses off about he or she did this or that, how about kicking their asses in reality with technology.

Show us how smart we thought you were. I have never and never will own an Apple product. Not an IPOD or phone or anything ever made by Apple. Their proprietary ways irk the crap out of me, and in this day and age of sharing information and publicizing how well you want to play on the playground, have a glass of STFU!

Go back to your seat Apple and show us something instead of constantly whining about someone else who is kicking your printed circuit asses.

Ok here we go.............................................

CharlieTX says:

It's taken a while, but my last Apple product was turned off and thrown away this morning.

Guys Android is not going away anytime soon. Its here to stay for a long time.The military has even adopted it for its personnel.Also due to the bad economy governments will not allow another business to take down other competitors because that will hurt the economy more.So eventually either Apple will get hurt for trying to abuse the patent system or the government will step in or all these companies will come together and sue Apple from all angles. I have a feeling big G is up to something.Apple is hypocritical because whenever it does its news event it pokes fun at the competitors but meanwhile it hates competition and tries the easy way out by suing.Personally apart from getting an iPad 2 for my wife I am never buying anymore Apple products no matter how good it is.

Surely a patent should be for something provably original and easily definable in a court of law. How companies like Apple get these ludicrously vague patents for things that have quite often been around for a while before is completely beyond me. Oh wait , it couldn't have anything to do with their vast fortune and the expensive lawyers it buys could it? Money wins over reason in a corrupt world.

Google needs to outright pull every app from Apple's market and cut off services to all iPhone users for Maps and Gmail. Apple can scream anti competitive all they want, but what do you call the crap they are pulling right now with these attempted injunctions? Lets see what happens when iPhone users can't access Gmail from anything other then their web browsers anymore. Or Google maps isn't accessible either. Pull the Google voice app as well. Oops. Don't like it iPhone users? Talk to your precious Apple and tell then to back off. Otherwise its competition.

dyinman says:

"You can't blame Apple for trying..."

Yes I can.

he_stheone64 says:

Cupertino, Febr. 13th

"Since Apple is the biggest customer for lawyers all over the planet, they will very soon launch a new revolutionary product, that will change the world like all iDevices before. The brand new iSUE device automatically scans the web for counterfeits, patent issues and companies who point out, that you can`t claim patents for existing technology (to ensure they will soon shut up). Look for your closest Apple store to purchase your new iSUE device..."

The next mean thing is already there :D

smccloud says:

I just hope this doesn't come to pass or its worked out come November when I can get my upgrade. I have a nice case I won here waiting for a Galaxy Nexus I plan on getting w/ my upgrade. I don't care if there are better phones by then, I want a Galaxy class phone so I don't have to deal w/ Sense/TouchWiz/etc...

izzyncade says:

Widget locker alone would be in copyright infringement... why have they not a had a Cease and desist order? Apple seriously needs to get cracking with hard work and actually invent something they can call their own...

I often wonder how Apple gets away with the volume/mute toggle button. That was a Palm standard way before Apple made phones. I would love to see Palm or anyone else sue and destroy Apple.