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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 versus iPhone 6s Plus: Big screens and bigger expectations

Samsung has been making big phones for a long time now, and through all the ridicule and mockery the company saw a clear market for folks who wanted a bigger screen in their pockets. While the Galaxy Note line has always been set up as the phone for people who want to do more work and be more productive, the reality of this line as an entertainment machine can't be ignored. In fact when Apple stepped up to the plate with their bigger "Plus" iPhone variants, it was painfully clear that was exactly why Apple was aiming at larger screens.

With Samsung's massive visual identity switch and Apple's push into new technology to take advantage of their bigger screens, it feels like the Galaxy Note 5 and the iPhone 6s Plus exist purely to compete with one another in the hearts and minds of folks looking for a new phone. With that in mind, lets see what happens when you put these phones side by side.

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The design language from Samsung and Apple have never been more similar as they are this year, so much so that Apple fans were faster than usual to cry foul when the Galaxy S6 was first announced. Instead of looking like its own line of phones this year, the Galaxy Note 5 looks more like a stretched out Galaxy S6, with two key differences to compensate for that size. Instead of the flat glass back on the S6, the Note 5 has steep curves on the long edges to make the phone easier to hold, which is a big deal when both the front and back of your phone is made of glass. The aluminum band around the outside of the phone complements the design nicely, and offers just enough texture difference to confirm you've got a good grip when holding the phone in your hand.

The second thing that makes the Note 5 special is the stylus. Like all Note phones, you can use the stylus to do a ton of things. You can draw notes without turning on the display or opening an app, you can hover over icons for additional quick-launch features with each app, and several apps have worked with Samsung for even deeper integration. Apple's version of this feature is 3D Touch, which uses a pressure-sensitive display to create a new layer of interaction in their interface. You can press with medium pressure to access menus, and apply even more pressure to "push through" to the next layer of interaction. Like Samsung's S-Pen functionality, third-party support is slow but steady and not even all Apple-made apps have been updated to support it.

CategoryGalaxy Note 5iPhone 6s Plus
OSAndroid 5.1.1iOS 9
Screen size5.7 inches5.5 inches
Screen typeSuper AMOLEDIPS LCD
ProcessorExynos 7420Apple A9
Rear camera16MP12MP
Front camera5MP5MP
FingerprintFront buttonFront button
Battery3000 mAh2750 mAh
Fast chargingYesNo

Since this is an "s" year for Apple, the iPhone 6s Plus looks almost exactly like the iPhone 6, which means it's got an aluminum unibody design with a glass front and Apple's signature round home button on the bottom near the ports. The iPhone 6s Plus is 0.3mm thinner than the Galaxy Note 5, but it's also 4.9mm taller and 1.8mm wider. That increase in size allows Apple to put a bigger screen in their big phone than previous generations, but Samsung's smaller frame manages to hold a display that is 0.2 inches bigger than the iPhone 6s Plus. Samsung's display also managed to be significantly higher resolution, noticeably more capable in direct sunlight, and generates richer (though less technically accurate) images than this year's iPhone displays.

Samsung vs iPhone fingerprint

At the bottom of each of these phones lies a fingerprint sensor. Samsung and Apple both use physical home buttons with built-in fingerprint sensors, with software baked in that works to authenticate app access and mobile payment systems alike. The key to any fingerprint sensor is speed and accuracy, and in that respect Apple has got Samsung beat this generation. Touch ID is one of the fastest mobile fingerprint systems out there, and the accuracy of that system is slightly better than Samsung's offering as well. It's a noticeable difference side-by-side, but it's unlikely any Note 5 users would find the experience lacking without that direct comparison.

Considering How much more hardware Samsung is using just to keep pace with Apple, it's clear Samsung needs to continue improving.

Underneath those displays lie a pair of fairly unique mobile processors. Samsung ditched Qualcomm this generation of Galaxy Note for their own 64-bit octa-core Exynos 7420 and a ridiculous 4GB of RAM. On paper, that sounds a lot more impressive than Apple's 64-bit dual-core A9 with 2GB of RAM. In practice, however, Apple's processor is noticeably more capable than Samsung's offering this year. You're unlikely to notice the difference in scrolling websites or opening simple apps, but loading large files or complex games reveals the edge Apple has over Samsung with performance this year. Considering how much more hardware Samsung is using just to keep pace with Apple, it's clear there's some optimization Samsung needs to do to continue improving.

Apple also has an important advantage over Samsung when it comes to software. Samsung's major release phones, the Galaxy S6 and Note 5, receive software updates much slower than Apple's phones. This includes major and minor software updates, which is important when things like security and optimization are considered. Samsung has finally started working with Google to apply their monthly security patches, but those updates are still coming a month or more later than several other Android smartphones. Meanwhile, when Apple releases an update it applies to all of their currently supported devices — including several previous generations — and is available immediately.

Note 5 vs iPhone camera

Both Apple and Samsung have placed priority on a quality photography experience, but Samsung and Apple have been approaching things from different perspectives. Apple's focus over the last couple of years was in making their 8MP sensor as good as it could possibly be, and then ramping up this year to the 12MP sensors. Samsung made the megapixel jump early, and the 16MP sensor in the Note 5 is now finally recognized as one of the best in the industry. Both Apple and Samsung use optical image stabilization for the best possible shot every time, but when you compare these two phones side by side you see Samsung's camera experience is slightly better in most situations this year.

Samsung's offerings this year have continued to impress as we use them.

A big concern with a lot of smartphone owners is battery life, and that's one of the big things that push people to larger form factors to begin with. Samsung's 3000mAh battery is an impressive difference over Apple's 2750mAh when you consider how much smaller the Note 5 is, but that greater capacity is quickly consumed by Samsung's more demanding hardware. The power-hungry display and less-optimized processor and RAM are going to drain that battery much faster than Apple's setup. As a result, you'll regularly get slightly better battery out of the iPhone 6s Plus. To help deal with this, Samsung's Note 5 supports quick charging both in wired and wireless charging, which means you go from dead to fully charged much faster than the iPhone 6s Plus and can top off at the end of the day in ways you just can't with Apple hardware right now.

Samsung's offerings this year have continued to impress as we use them, and the Note line continues to be a powerhouse compared to just about everything. When it comes to price, Apple's comparable phone comes at a premium even when compared to the Note. The $749 price tag on the base model 16GB iPhone 6s Plus is a little tough to swallow when compared to the $699 price tag on the base model 32GB Note 5, especially when the next model up for Apple is $849 for the same 64GB as Samsung's $799 model. That $50 difference doesn't make much difference at the 64GB level, but at the base level it's significant. Unlike previous Note phones, there's no removable storage option available to go beyond that 64GB model. There's also no 128GB model, which means there's nothing to compete with Apple's top end $949 iPhone 6s Plus.

There's little argument that both of these phones are impressive in their own way, but what Samsung has to offer in the overall experience makes for a compelling purchase. If Android is the way you lean, there are few phones out there that would serve you better than the Galaxy Note 5. As of right now, unless you're already part of the Apple ecosystem, the iPhone 6s Plus is very close but not quite there.

Russell is a Contributing Editor at Android Central. He's a former server admin who has been using Android since the HTC G1, and quite literally wrote the book on Android tablets. You can usually find him chasing the next tech trend, much to the pain of his wallet. Find him on Facebook and Twitter

  • Good call outs on Samsung lacking in the software update and performance departments. We need honest feedback like this to drive companies to improve. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I have both. They both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Posted via the Android Central App
  • My wife switched to the Note 5 when we switched carriers. Was previously using the Note 4. It seems nice though the removable battery far outweighed whatever benefit came with the sealed battery of the note 5. We had to replace her battery in her Note 4. That would have been a PITA with the Note 5. The lack of software updates isn't missed by her at all. If anything updates usually change the way the phones work, sometimes quite drastically, which really annoys her. I have a feeling most people don't care about software updates and just want their phone to work. Security updates are welcome but are seldom serious enough to worry about.
  • WOW, way to get out ahead of the crowd with this comparison...
  • so true Posted via the Android Central App
  • No issues with my Note 4, I carry a spare battery with me when I am out and about "even though the Note 4 has great battery life", bought an original battery for $10, and I have a 100% charged phone in 30 seconds, if need be. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Where do you carry the spare battery? Pocket? Glove box?
  • The one thing Apple does better than Samsung is the software updates. If I were to choose between the two devices I'd get the Note 5 over the iPhone 6s Plus just because the Samsung phone (and Android phones in general) can be customized and the S Pen adds another level of interaction with the device.
  • Reason is Apple has one device that is controlled by Apple only "closed platform to outsiders", no one else is making a phone with ios software and sprinkling in their own flavor to it, like the open platform that Android is. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Apple has more than one device. They still support devices back to the iPhone 4S or 5. All their devices use different CPUs. They use different screen sizes and resolutions (and supporting that on iOS is harder than on Android). They use different cameras. They have different amounts of RAM. Some do or don't have fingerprint sensors, or NFC, etc. In addition to that, all the iPads and iPods they support, as well as the Apple Watch and new AppleTV, both of which run sort of cut down version of iOS (renamed). The issue is Samsung has TOO many models, and they're trying to stuff TouchWiz into all of them. If they used a Stock Android build on their lowest end phones, they'd perform better and it would actually help them at the higher end. They'd have more time to optimize TouchWiz for their premium devices. They also stuff too many "unnecessary" features and software into TouchWiz - lots of it is completely redundant. Some of it is so S-Pen dependent that it's just not that great to use on a Samsung device without an S Pen (S Memo on a Galaxy S, for example). I still think Multi-Window belongs on Tablets, along with PiP Video playback. I also think from a performance standpoint, Apple's use of Native Code is an advantage. ART apps still don't perform on par with iOS Apps in many cases (the disparity grows the more complex the app is), and with Apple moving to Swift the disparity is likely to grow a bit. Even Microsoft allows you to develop Universal Apps with Native Code. I think Java has created a perception issue with Android, similar to the way it had its own issues as a desktop development platform back in the day. As for battery life. Samsung puts too much stuff in its phones. There's too much stuff running in the background. You have Samsung's Account and Store, etc. On top of that, they're Android phones, so when you get them from a Carrier they come with bloatware that runs in the background on startup as well. VZW phones come with the Amazon ecosystem pre-loaded, and then some, for example... In addition to Google Apps, Samsung Apps, and some Verizon Apps. Samsung is fee to pare down the number of devices they're producing if they think Apple's secret weapon is the fewer number of devices they're supporting. The issue isn't the number of devices. It's the priorities of the company. Apple is designing user experiences for consumers. Samsung is designing user experiences to check off boxes on a spec sheet. That worked back in 2001/12. That doesn't work as well these days, now that even 2 year old devices can blow through the latest software. Also, I feel Samsung was way too fast to jump on top of some features, well before they were polished and really ready for prime time. I don't think NFC was ready for prime time until Mobile Payment Systems were established. I don't think 4K video was ready for prime time in 2013 as there were a metric ton of PCs back then that would driver-crash or freeze up if you tried to play that video on them (from a Note 3). They bought out some pretty ****** fingerprint scanners in the S5/Note 4 which pretty much left Apple as the only decent choice for people who wanted that, and they did hurt themselves by perpetuating the MPx Wars instead of improving their cameras in ways that "made sense" earlier. In addition to that, you can hardly find a 64GB Galaxy Note in a store. They're all order-in. I went in to replace my iPhone 6 Plus with a Note 5 64GB and they told me it was a week to get one. I ended up just getting the 6S Plus because Apple has a better upgrade program (Pay 50% and Trade In for the iPhone vs. Pay 75% and Trade in for the Samsung, and if I decide to buy the phone outright... the iPhone is going to resale for hundreds more than the Note - easily). I know at least 2 people who did the same thing. The lack of availability makes people think twice, and in many cases they may think "Is moving over/back to Android REALLY worth it?" and stick with the iPhone. But at least you could get a 64GB Galaxy S6 with its bad battery life. If the battery life on that was decent, I'd had gone for it in a heartbeat. But I can't be charging mid-day... Not with the way I move around and the amount of use my phone gets as a video recorder during training sessions.
  • I'll finish reading your post later if that's ok? Good read just getting a little tired.. Note 4
  • Seriously- save the rants for the forums.
  • post cliff notes. I'm not reading all that
  • I thought the same. That dude has way too much time on his hands
  • After using the Nexus 6P I am pretty much convinced the idea that Samsung Touch Wiz hurting battery life is a total fallacy. My Note 5 had similar, if not better battery performance than my 6P with stock android. Each persons usage will effect what kind of battery performance they see, but from what I saw, touch wiz had no negative impact on battery life. Software optimization that works with whatever processor is in the phone is the key.
  • I am using MOTO X Pure, it is similar to Nexus phones.
  • Apple shoe horns a version of the latest ios update onto older devices, most run like **** afterwards as well. I think it is a disservice to tell someone they are getting ios 9 when they are only getting 8.5. Posted via the Android Central App
  • took the words right out of my mouth ... iOS updates (and I have no beef with Apple) aren't as smooth as some make them out to be.
  • Same goes for android updates too, not so much on flagship but on lower specced devices. I got an original Moto E which run fine on KitKat but Lollipop has killed it. I have had to delete virtually all of my apps and can't even run the app updates because of lack of memory. Also features such as cast screen do not work on budget devices. All Android devices are not equal either. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Mostly good essay and I agree with a lot of what you said. But you're wrong about Apple really supporting so many devices. In fact iOS 9.2.1's secret feature is that it finally makes iPhones older than 6 perform at anything but a crawl. Read the Forbes article by Gordon Kelly if you'd like reference. Also, Apple locks you into everything. I love the iPhone 6S Plus, but hate that all the cables are proprietary, most basic Android style modifications are not really achievable, and its LCD screen just doesn't compare to the AMOLED of the Samsung and the Nexus 6P. Other than that, I think 3D touch will make the iPhone a lot better, and its quick as all get go, which is very nice. Also feels very solid, and isn't as much of a fingerprint magnet as the Note or S6 Edge+. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Just an fyi on iOS speed, it's mostly smoke and mirrors. When you leave an app, iOS takes a screen shot. When you load that app again, it quickly loads the screen shot first, then loads the actual app in the background. It's very noticeable if you have an app with a load screen of some sort. Get the app to the load screen then go to another app for a bit. When you go back, that same load screen is there for a second or two while it loads the app behind it. Pants
  • wow, that's actually pretty interesting and I had no clue iPhones did that. I wonder if all these online speed test sites that claim the iPhone loads apps quicker than the Note, 6p, etc takes that into consideration. like you said, smoke and mirrors.
  • They've been doing this for years. But iOS still very snappy on everything from the 5s and up.
  • I disagree. With both iPad airs and a 6, they are slow. I would compare it to turning your animations to 2x scale in the developer's menu. Also my iPad air 2 doesn't see my fingerprint all the time. I would say 5% of the time it doesn't recognize it. All the low ram and slow loading is masked by tricks, the screen shot thing, slow animations, etc. Pants
  • IOS stock animations are a bit slower but app loading speeds definitely aren't. Ive been using an iPhone 6s that my wife has off and on and I've done the comparisons between it and the nexus 6 I have as well as watching many comparisons. I'd say when it comes to app loading speeds there's nothing running android that's faster than the 6s. Equally as fast, yes. But not faster. Itll be fun to compare the upcoming crops of 820 flagships to the 6s
  • I agree with you on the iPad issue with the fingerprint read; mine does the same. But I can honestly say that my 6s Plus is quite fast. I like to think I remain impartial, having owned many android devices as well as every generation of iPhone, including the "S" years. But truly, everything from the 5S forward has been remarkable considering Apple is usually behind the the curb with hardware. They use software and updates to keep evereything near-smooth. Just my opinion.
  • Agreed! my old ip5 actually seemed to improve with updates as far as speed and battery life were concerned. Which, true it was the polar opposite with the 4 generation. They no likey update!
  • Not since they added 2gb of ram to the 6s... There doesn't seem to be any loading whatsoever, just apps waiting in the background
  • The very fact that people believe that Apple supports their device more than Samsung or Google for that matters does not use both platforms. I use both and just like my note 4 started to drop in performance so did my iPhone 4. The challenge that Samsung has is that it doesn't own it's own platform and those who use Samsung devices really aren't trying to use stock so when an update comes out it has to play nice with with the bells and whistles that Samsung adds. I have yet to worry about marshmallow for my note 5. There is currently no area that I see where apple exceeds the note series. They don't take advantage of the extra screen. It's just big. That's not to say that they won't catch up but I have yet to see anybody handle a phablet like Samsung does. Posted via the Android Central App
  • There's an excuse for an iPhone 4 dropping in performance, it has weak hardware. There's NO acceptable excuse for a note 4 significantly dropping in performance.
  • Agreed Posted via the Android Central App
  • Your comment is well written, but you missed on a few points, I think. If you'll notice, Apple tends to keep their screen resolutions in multiples of 4, exactly so that they don't have to do much for maintain different screen sizes. Also, Samsung bought the fingerprint scanners that they did for the S5/N4 because that's all there was.  Apple purchased the company that makes the Touch ID scanner, and left everyone else to come up with something equivalent on their own. Android supports native code.  They have the NDK (Native Development Kit) available for download for exactly that reason.  You don't necessarily need it for basic apps.  Big games generally use the NDK, if the dev's have any clue what they're doing. Where do you live that the Note 5 isn't available?  I ordered my 64GB Note 5 on Dec 19th (because I hate going to any store) and got it the next evening.  I have also seen them on the shelves at several stores (although, admittedly, I didn't ask about what internal storage sizes they had in stock). Some other stuff, we could quibble over about how severe of an "issue" it is.  I like Samsung's added features ("extra" apps not-withstanding). I do agree that Samsung needs to take a good, hard look at the performance if it's own integrated apps.  They do seem to be becoming aware that this is an issue with the Samsung+ app on the Note 5.  It will actually alert you if an app is "misbehaving".  I've never had much problem with performance on my Note's, though, but that's mostly likely because I'm not an "average" user and I take the time to disable the stuff I have no intention of using. The *real* reason Apple does "better" about software updates is that the entire argument is a based on a fallacy of logic about how software development works. Apple makes iOS.  They make it, then they release it. Samsung does not make "Android".  They make a particular flavor of Android.  The Android that Google released back in November is not the Android that runs on any device, not even a Nexus.  Google gets the Nexus images out quickly, because they don't do much to them.  Samsung, on the other hand, has to take what Google has released and add their feature modifications back in, test, fix, retest, etc.  All while not "breaking" anything Google put in AOSP.  As a software developer, I can promise you that that is not an insignificant task.  It's not something you do "over a weekend".  It takes meetings, and planning, and all kinds of boring, tedious **** before you even begin writing code. Android devices will *NEVER* get instant updates from OEM's, so long as the OEM makes changes to how AOSP Android functions.  If that gives you heart palpitations or shortness or breath, then get a Nexus phone.  Personally, I prefer to wait a couple of months for the extra features Samsung (or HTC or Moto or whoever) offers.
  • This guy gets it
  • Very good points. Posted via the Android Central App
  • All good points except that the 4s and 5 get stable updates. They do get updates, but they are very large and almost unusable on my old 4s Posted via the Android Central App
  • Holy junk! I stopped after the first paragraph! Posted via the Android Central App
  • Good points. Some not all.
  • Doesn't really matter what the "reason" is, the fact is that's what they do and that means a lot to people.
  • I've replaced my note 4 edge battery 3 times. Not sure if I should be blaming Samsung or Sprint for that. I usually carry a spare and switch them out so one battery doesn't carry the load. Makes me suspicious of sealed battery phones. If you're reading this, Sprint worked today!
  • I'm thinking about getting a Note 5. I'm going to buy the Verizon model and use it on t-mobile ($50 cheaper) . I'm just wondering how would I get software updates.
  • You won't. Posted via the Android Central App
  • He would get Software updates. However, the Verizon Galaxy Note 5 has about 10x as much bloatware on it than the T-Mobile versions. You have Google and Samsung's bloat, on top of Verizon's apps, and then you have basically every Amazon App they could cram into the phone there; and then some. Honestly, it's not worth saving $50 just to use the phone on T-Mobile. That makes it sound like you probably should opt for a cheaper phone; if that $50 means that much to you.
  • Who the hell are you, Bill Gates. No need to GIVE away $50. Bloat is just that, bloat. Never ever caused me any harm.
  • The TMobile versions are actually more sought after because of the unlocked bootloader and ROM availability. All that bloatware is gone when you use a custom ROM and there is many good ones available. With the exceotion of the carrier lock the Verizon version is locked down tight. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Not really going to load any ROM on this phone. I don't really have the need to do that anymore.
  • +1 no need to do it anymore. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly Dam It Feels Good To Be A Google Gangster
  • You may not now but when it starts to lag you may want to consider it. That, or maybe the next owner may want to. Better to have the option than not IMO. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Delete the bloat? Possibly? I did it in 5 minutes. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I guess it depends on what you consider bloat as not all of it can be uninstalled. Some of it can only be disabled. Posted via the Android Central App
  • A Verizon model won't work on T-Mobile...
  • Yes it will. I'm currently using a Verizon LG G2 on Tmobile. LTE speeds and all.
  • Would something like that have band 12 support and wifi calling though?
  • New phones do, his G2 probably not. Pants
  • Band 4 is used in my area.
  • nobody asked which band was used in your area.
  • I was thinking the same. How do you use a locked CDMA phone on a GSM network? Google Nexus 6P
  • All Verizon smartphones come unlocked, as per the deal with the FCC when they bought more spectrum. It has the correct band for Tmobile LTE. Verizon uses CDMA, but all their smartphone have GSM support.
  • I second that. Verizon phones are sim unlocked for sure. I have used them internationally without a problem with 3G speeds on a GSM network. Couldn't test LTE as it wasn't available.
  • Interesting. Google Nexus 6P
  • Nexus 6P > both. S Pen is cool but it doesn't outweigh the freshest version of Android.
  • Maybe in your daily life, for me it's essential. Posted via the Android Central App
  • That's your opinion, not everyone's Posted via the mighty Nexus 6P
  • I've been trying out the Nexus 6P (I have an S6 Edge+ and a work iPhone 6). It is very nice, but in my unit, the battery life is much worse than my Edge+, and because you have to have a USB C cable around, I can't work with it. With the Samsung I already have wireless chargers etc. Posted via the Android Central App
  • In terms of pricing here in South Africa, if you take them on contract: the 32 GB Note 5 comes in
    @ZAR599/pm (US$36.37/pm) with 100 anytime voice minutes, 300 sms and 500 MB data. the 64 GB iPhone 6S Plus comes in
    @ZAR619/pm (US$37.59/pm)with the same things the Note 5 comes with. This makes the Note 5 a lot more expensive especially when you consider how long it takes Samsung to update phones in our market. And also the fact that both phones have no SD card or removable battery this year. Posted via the AC App from SM-N910F
  • 500mb of data....? Posted from my LG G4
  • aaah, why is anyone comparing these phones now?.. a little late, don't you think? Posted via the Android Central App
  • Plus one thousand^. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Slow news cycle, until the 2016 flagships become official. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Passing time until new flagships launch. Have to do something until MWC
  • Pretty much. I don't mind it though. It's fun click bait. Samsung vs Apple? Pulses immediately quickened. lol Posted via the Android Central App
  • Had the Note 2, Note 4, then decided to try an iPhone so I tried the 6+ and 6s+ out, then switched back to the Note 5. iPhone experience is mostly stable. Build quality is great. Battery in the 6+ line, is phenomenal. Much better than my Notes. On the other hand, I had to Jailbreak the thing to do what I wanted, and then still couldn't do basic things I can on Android. Android notifications are light years ahead of iPhone. And didn't realize how much I missed widgets. I gave iPhone an honest try, but missed the Android experience. If Samsung could work on getting updates out quicker, I'd probably never be tempted again.
  • Thank you for the fair assessment. A lot of people just cheaply trash-talk one side to favor the other without sound reasoning. Posted via the AC App from SM-N910F
  • I personally have never cared about rooting or JBing (and never done it) because I buy devices for what they offer, not what I want to bend them to my will to accomplish. Android phones have too much crap loaded onto them. I used it for years. I liked it, but I got tired of all the bloat that I had to remove (when possible) or disable overtime I factory reset a phone (pretty much compulsory after any big update) which ran as system apps on boot and destroyed performance or battery life. The Android OS also allows apps to abuse the device's resources, as the Facebook app does routinely. The situation on iOS isn't nearly as dire because the OS sensibly restricts these things. Most of all, I just got tired of the amount of redundancy on the device... 3 Note Apps, 2 Browsers, 2 Email Clients, 2 Task Apps, 3 Music Players, 2 Video Players, 2-3 Account Systems, 2-3 Messaging Apps, 2 Galleries, etc. out of the gate. Just a fresh boot. Constant pop-ups of "How would you like to open this file?" I like Apple's platform because it's organized, it lacks the useless redundancy, and apps tend to perform better. Load times are better, runtimes are better. I also like that Apple at least integrates well with OS X. Google seems allergic to Desktop Platforms. Everything is thrown into a separate little applet that runs as a service on your PC/Notebook, and destroys your battery life. Their desktop software is quite lacking in QA (constant, random loss of log-in with Drive, etc.). So I got an iPhone and an iMac instead. Once you have both, Android doesn't even register, TBH, because the convenience of it all trumps any supposed advantages it has as a platform over iOS. At that point, it becomes *bigger* than simply iOS vs. Android or iPhone vs. Galaxy S/Note. Samsung Kies still still a heaping mess. I've lost hope in Samsung as a "software developer." They had an S Note app for Windows that Sync'd to your Samsung Account, which crashed 100% of the time you tried to open any S Notes, Lol.
  • Stop complaining and buy a Nexus Posted via the mighty Nexus 6P
  • Nice essay, while i respect opinion you are clearly biast and trying to back up a over priced purchase. Every problem you listed has a simple solution. You clearly like every apple user are too dumb to use android (most people can not learn) and to lazy so you enjoy "simplicity" aka apple selling you a product that does less for me. Posted from my LG G4
  • Just to put a little perspective, none of what you just said makes the iPhone "better".  Personally, I *like* the popup asking me which app to use, because I use different apps for different things.  I will agree that I wish it were easier to remove some of the unnecessary apps, because we're stuck with the AOSP app in addition to Chrome or Samsung's own apps that mimic functionality of AOSP apps. I hate Apple's platform because it's organized to the point of telling me how I am allowed to use my device, which just makes me cranky. Somebody emailed you a zip file?  Tough.  Want to copy a new MP3 to your device and not wait 45 minutes for iTunes to "sync"?  Tough.  "You'll wait, because we're making it seamless and convenient for you." And why on earth are you launching Samsung Kies?  That thing is a trash fire. Seriously, though, I still shudder thinking about all the time I spent staring at my laptop, waiting on iTunes to "sync" after adding a single MP3.
  • I agree but bought a Nexus (4, 6p) instead of iPhone. I like the 6s+ a lot but it's just too limited and even jailbreaking wouldn't accomplish everything I want. I also think the whole platform/ecosystem thing is way overrated these days. If I want to just take it out of the box and have it work seamlessly, then it would be the better option, but I enjoy spending an hour or so tinkering and setting it up the way I like. The end result is an Android phone, MacBook, iPad and Chromebook that all work perfectly with each other. I get the best of both worlds and things function the way I like. Nothing wrong with taking it out of the box and enjoying how it works, just not for me!
  • Load times are fake in iOS. It loads a screen shot of the last time you closed it, then loads the app. It's not a secret it does this either. Without knowing, I would guess RAM management is faked the same way.
  • What's the difference between jailbreaking and rooting? Posted via the Android Central App
  • I am sure there are technical differences but it accomplishes basically the same thing in that it allows you to modify the phone and/or install apps that normally you cannot. Jail breaking is the Apple equivalent of rooting on Android.
  • Perfect In between=nexus Posted via the Android Central App
  • There really isn't much contest here. The Note 5 should be a great phone, but thanks to Samsung's fail RAM management implementation, it performs like a phone with 1GB of RAM. Actually, even the iPhone 6 with 1 GB of RAM handled multitasking better. I have both and I'm by no means an iPhone fanboy, but Apple really knocked it out of the park this year. The performance is unparalleled. My iPhone 6s Plus loads web pages much faster than my Note 5 does and general performance is just better overall. That being said, Samsung has the better camera and screens by far. I just wish they hadn't messed with Android's stock freememory settings.
  • Yup!!!!
  • I have a feeling Samsung will knock it out of the park with the note 6, I can just feel it Posted via the mighty Nexus 6P
  • As someone who has used the Note 5 for a couple months now I feel the need to inform you that you're very much mistaken. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Mistaken about what, exactly? If you're talking about the ram management, I can post at least 4 videos that demonstrate it and the only people who don't "see it" are either in denial or blind. Also, I have had my Note 5 since launch, so maybe you should wait a little longer for the honeymoon period to subside before you disagree with me.
  • I mean. I've used a note 5 for awhile haven't noticed any problems. Maybe the RAM isn't optimized but my battery life is amazing even with company emails, custom launchers, and having my watch/ tone pros blue toothed all day and bluetoothing music to my car I get from 10am to 2am with this guy. Is a RAM problem really something to complain about if it doesn't affect your normal everyday uses or battery? Hell if it's fixed and I get better battery life I'll never get rid of this device. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It DOES affect everyday use if you actually use the phone. Every time I multitask back to an app, it reloads, especially the browser. That means worse performance overall as you're always waiting for apps/web pages to reload. Nothing is more annoying than opening a web page, going to another app, then coming back to the web page later and having it reload and lose your place. Other recent flagships don't do that (other than the S6, which is even worse) and the iPhone gets amazing battery life without doing this. There are a ton of complaints about this in forums, including AndroidCentral and XDA, and numerous reviewers have pointed this out in their reviews. So, I'm super glad you don't think it's an issue, but power users do and the Note has always been a device for power users. It's pretty pathetic that a phone with half as much RAM can keep 3X as many apps open in the background and still get better battery life. I'm really sick of people trying to argue against this and pretend that it's fine. Doesn't affect you? Great. You must just use your phone for calls and/or SMS, but it's a real issue and well-documented. Also, you do realize that if Samsung really intended the phone to run this way, then there's absolutely no point to putting 4GB of RAM in it right? Because it's not even letting you utilize the RAM. It would be like having a PC computer with 16 GB of RAM that only let you have 3 browser tabs open before closing them.
  • And I'm sick of people trying to make this some major problem if it isn't one for most users. If it bugs you, sorry, return it for something else. If it were as major problem as you claim, We'd see mass returns of Samsung phones. Truth most people don't notice or don't care. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I guess you haven't seen the reports of Samsung's lagging sales. A LOT of people are bothered by this, which a casual Google search would demonstrate for you (but hey, that's effort). Here's a video that shows it pretty clearly: Skip to 6:30 Skip to 18:50 Video dedicated to demonstrating the issue And here's an XDA post dedicated to the issue and a possible fix (with root): Yeah, not a problem at all, bro. I'm totally making this up.
  • Sorry, but no. A group of geeks on YouTube does not equate to a major issue among users. I've seen all of those "smoking gun" videos, and still have yet to have an issue with the way I use my Note 5. I know you've been waiting for the moment to post those videos, but they've already been posted several times by multiple people. And guess what? Note users are still enjoying the **** out their phones. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yeah, it's just 5 nerds making a big deal about this (despite the hundreds of posts/threads in numerous android forums). I mean, there's not much you can do when I child puts it's hands over its ears and yells so it doesn't have to hear the truth. There are people who still think the Moon Landing was faked, too. I guess ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your broken phone. I'm selling mine. The rumor is that Samsung is fixing the memory management in the 6.0 update, so I guess even they realized it was an issue. But you think it's fine, so I'm sure it is. you do, after all, have to justify your purchase.
  • Who's the one putting their hands over their ears? cause it ain't me. lol And yes, I'll enjoy my phone while you enjoy whining and complaining. Btw, if Samsung wants improve what I already consider a great line of phones, I'm all for it! :) Posted via the Android Central App
  • Cool story, bro. I have learned that arguing with retards is a waste of time, so unsubscribing from this thread.
  • And there it is, the name calling. Meaning you lost, and were trolling all along. That was easy. Posted via the Android Central App
  • to be fair, a lot of people have posted Bluetooth/battery issues with their 6p, but I haven't experienced any of the issues they have. it doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist, or that I only use my phone for calls and text, it's just that it doesn't affect everyone. I had the Note 5 for 10 days and personally I didn't experience any RAM management issues. Again, doesn't mean others didn't, or that the issue wouldn't arise 6 months down the road.
  • It's not a major problem because most people don't know any better. But when a phone with 4 gigs of RAM can't hold more than 6 or 7 apps tops in memory, the software is seriously flawed
  • I'm looking through my "recent apps" list right now and there's like 50 cards in there.  Clicked on a web page from several days ago and, yeah, it reloaded.  Took about 2 seconds.  You may consider that a problem, but I suspect many people wouldn't. And I see people *constantly* comment about that the iPhone doing the exact same thing, so your argument that the Note 5 performs more poorly than a device with less RAM is factually incorrect.  Apps having to reload when you switch back to the them is the single most common complaint I hear from people who, otherwise, love their iPhones. My Note 5 is totally using my 4Gigs of RAM.  You should see the list of stuff loaded into memory right now.... I suspect Samsung intentionally "dumps" web pages from memory that haven't been "active" for a while for a number of reasons, not least of which being that badly written web pages "running" in the background of your device can have some pretty negative effects on performance and battery life.  I use the "Great Suspender" plugin on my desktop Chrome for the same reason.
  • You nailed it. Thanks. Posted via the Android Central App
  • +1 Posted Via The AT&T Note 4
  • I actually have both phones. Do you? I can compare them side-by-side. The iPhone keeps literally 3X as many apps in the background without refreshing. On 2GB of RAM. I can open three apps, including the web browser on the Note 5 and then open something like the camera. Any app I multitask to (other than the one RIGHT before the camera) will reload. There's no excuse for that. The videos I posted back this up. I also own the Moto X Pure, LG V10, Nexus 6, Nexus 6P, OnePlus One, and Moto G. The only phone out of those that doesn't multitask better than the Note 5 is the Moto G. The Moto G has 1 GB of RAM. You're right about the memory values. Samsung set them to be too aggressive. As a result, pretty much every Android phone with 3GB or more of RAM runs better. And the iPhone has always done a better job of saving the state of apps without purging them from memory. I know this because I have owned every single iPhone that has been released, along with most of the Android Flagships released since 2012. I also test phones and do comparisons. I'm quite a bit more qualified than most people to point out flaws and most of the professional reviewers back me up. Most of the people who claim that "it's fine" simply don't use their phones heavily or are in denial because they dropped $700 for a phone that doesn't perform like a flagship. So, you can argue with me all you want, or say that "it's fine", but it's not. Samsung makes some of the best hardware. They have the best cameras and screens. But they totally flubbed the software this year. All they had to do was leave the memory values in the build.prop file alone and it would have been fine. As it stands, there's no reason to have 4GB of RAM on that phone. It's just a spec to put on an ad to try and help sell the phone.
  • Don't worry about all the nonsense these people are blabbering bro. When it comes to this issue, some people just don't want to believe the software is seriously flawed on their Samsung phones. Maybe because that would imply that their phone isn't perfect,or in this case far from perfect But I really don't think this is would run smoothly if they hadn't modified build.prop values. I think with the current state of touchwiz, 20 apps cached in memory would seriously gum up the works
  • Ha! Posted via the Android Central App
  • I thought the same after reading you defending Samsung's pathetic RAM management.
  • Show me where I defended it? I'm waiting... Posted via the Android Central App
  • You sure do like to wait.
  • And I love how you unsubscribed from this thread. But I get it. It's far too entertaining. :) Posted via the Android Central App
  • You mean UNSUBSCRIBED, right? The problem is that this site fails at unsubscribing you from posts you have made. So I still get the emails regardless. And no, arguing with the mentally handicapped is not entertaining.
  • Awwww. I wish I could buy that bs, but you can easily ignore any thread you want. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Arguing with yourself is a sign of mental illness.
  • Yeah, don't do Posted via the Android Central App
  • "Most people don't notice or care" including you obviously. If you're accepting it's existence you might as well be defending it, and that's fine. But its definitely a significant issue for serious android users that have knowledge of the subject matter and know the disparity in memory management between a galaxy (fill-in the blank) running touchpiss, and anything running android properly
  • "Serious Android Users". Ha! You got me there. I guess I need to do better? ; ) Posted via the Android Central App
  • I don't see this behavior at all.  I went back and opened a couple of apps from yesterday, just to check.  Only thing I see reloading is web pages. At the end of the day, even if apps are reloading and then restoring state, if it's not creating a "bad" experience, is it a problem?
  • To someone desperate to prove a point? Yes. For the rest of us, I'm not seeing a problem either. But the problem is, we're not "Serious Android Users". We're just fooling around. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Speak for yourself :P
  • Go ahead and take a look at this comparison between a note 5 with 4 gigs of RAM, and an iphone 6 with 1 gig of RAM. Just understand that this is how your note 5 performs and stacks up to an iphone 6 when it comes to managing RAM. There's nothing left to discuss
  • "When it comes to managing RAM". Glad you made that distinction. Posted via the Android Central App
  • So I just did some googling... looks like there are multiple reasons why the iphone needs less ram. The main reason is not Samsungs fault, but Android for using Java. Apparently java needs tons of ram for something called garbage collection (I admit I don't know what the hell this means) while iOS using...whatever they use as the base does not need this. Also, I suspect Samsung dumps things for 2 reasons, battery and performance. If in fact Java kind of sucks for RAM and Android kind of sucks for battery life, Samsung has to do something to combat the underlying problem that Google is not that good at polished programming. Last, that video, I wonder what would happen if that test was repeated, but instead of back to the home screen, at least one action was taken in the app before going home. This would help us with the screen shot mirage Apple uses. Pants
  • "Garbage collection" is a process that happens in a memory managed environment wherein the memory manager ensures that all instance objects have been disposed and released from RAM. Java is a byte code language, meaning that applications are compiled into an "interim language".  That means that Java applications are not machine language.  This is so that a Java application can be taken and run on any platform or CPU architecture.  Each architecture that Java runs on then needs a Just-In-Time compiler (frequently called a Jitter) that translates the byte code to the appropriate machine code for the architecture.  In Android, this jitter is called "ART" (which stands for Android Runtime).  In older version of Android, it was called "Dalvik" (I honestly have no clue where this name came from).  Because Java code does not compile directly to machine code, the Java code itself generally does not have direct access to RAM, which is why (properly written) Java code gives the Jitter "hints" about when objects are ready to be destroyed and removed from RAM (which is called the "Garbage Collection" cycle). This is fundamental to how Android can run on any hardware.  If all Android apps were written in a C-Based language and then compiled to machine code, you would run into infinite architecture incompatibilities with apps. The downside to this is that it tends to create "lazy" developers who don't bother to give the Jitter hints on when objects should be collected, and just lets the Jitter figure it out on its own.  Under Dalvik, most of the "lag" people complained about with Android was due to heavy garbage collection.  This was a big reason that Dalvik was replaced with ART, a Jitter that was built from the ground up with newer devices (with faster CPU's and more RAM) in mind. On iOS, apps are written in Objective-C and compiled directly to code that runs on Apple's SoC, and thus have no need for a Jitter.  This means faster performance across the board, but also means that developers have to be more careful about their code (which can be good and/or bad, depending on perspective).  But it's only possible because iOS apps only have to target a single architecture.  Even with different Apple SoC's, they're all based on the ARM CPU architecture.  This is also why Windows apps wouldn't run on the original Windows RT (which was for ARM processors) because they had all been compiled around the x86 architecture, which is completely incompatible with ARM. Hopefully that explains everything sufficiently.  Or just made your eyes glaze over. As for the multitasking, whatever mechanism that iOS uses to get such nice switching between apps really isn't the issue.  If I can switch apps without feeling like I'm having to wait on things to reload, it really doesn't matter how it's happening.
  • Thanks for the info but thats actually pretty common knowledge among people on here. But android doesnt need "tons" more RAM partly for garbage collection unless you consider tons to be about 2 gigs to run without issue and multitask at the iphone 6 level. And you're half right, keeping apps cached in memory has very little if any effect on battery life. Any dev will tell you that's the last reason Samsung would use aggressive RAM management. They do it because of the potential performance issues. And that last statement of yours about the iOS mirage no, just no
  • It doesn't actually restore the state, though. It reloads the page from scratch. So, if you were on a particular spot on the page, or in the middle of filling a form (and, say, went to get a password from your notes app or something), you lose your place/progress. It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't do it so obsessively. They just turned it up WAY too high. I'd honestly rather they allowed the apps to stay in memory until it got a little low on RAM. Stock Android did a perfectly fine job with this and Samsung never should have messed with it. My Nexus 6P has a much better overall experience because of this. I get really irritated when I hit the multitask button and go back to my browser and the page reloads on my Note 5. Especially because I know that it just shouldn't happen. When the S6 came out and was doing this, rooted users could edit the build.prop file to fix the memory values. I did this and it ran MUCH better, more like it should. I can't do this with my Note 5 because it's a carrier version and Samsung is getting worse about locking down their phones than Apple is. I doubt I'll ever be able to root it.
  • Again, I'm not seeing this.  After reading this, I jumped back to a web page I had been on about an hour ago, and it came back up to exactly where I left it, including the scroll position.  If I jump back to a web page from yesterday, then yes, it reloads.  But not web pages from just a little while ago.  And definitely not from a few minutes ago, like switching to a password manager and back again. When I mentioned "restoring state" I was referring to apps, not webpages.  Apps have to explicitly store their state when they lose focus (stop being the foreground app) and explicitly restore it when they regain focus.  Web pages don't know how to do this.
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  • IPhone doesn't have multitask, i have to leave the app
  • Both garbage phones! My Note 4 frozen on KitKat, the last Samsung version of an Android OS least like IOS and hardware least like Apple (see a pattern here?) pimp slaps both with its user-replaceable battery, SD card, and IR blaster! ;D
  • TRUTH Posted via the Android Central App
  • Good article. Well informed and well written. The 128Gb SdCard from my Note 3 plugged into my Note 4. If the Note 6 has a slot I'll be back for it. If not; "...time for something completely different." These things make calls but they are pocket computers. Who would buy a desktop computer that could not use a different, additional or bigger drive (except business)?
  • The iPhone is basically a Samsung LMAO it has mostly Samsung components right? Posted via the Android Central App
  • All I know is there is no way in hell I would choose an iPhone anything over a Note. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Open your mind brother... There's a whole world out there.
  • I know. I've owned every type of phone there is. I get bored with iPhones after a month and want my open source back. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Two great phones. I switch back and forth almost weekly because I like them both the same.
  • The extra hardware needed is not exclusive to Samsung. Obviously the iPhone can run very well with much less powerful hardware because iOS is so much lighter and has way fewer features than Android. Pretty basic knowledge there. Also, I definitely need to disagree when it comes to the fingerprint scanners. My friend and I compared them ourselves and there's almost no difference at all. And that's not including the times that either one failed to register our fingerprint at all though luckily neither one does this very often. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Kind of odd he pointed out how much more hardware Samsung had but didn't point out that it was needed to power the 1440p resolution vs Apple's 1080p. People always seem to ignore that when comparing Android Flagships to iphones. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Note5 doesnt really compare to the crapple phone, should compare the S6 Edge+ to the crapple phone.
  • Note 5 > any Icrap
  • I think I've made it clear in previous comments about the same article. I have no fanboy-ish preference between the 2. They're both great phones that do the basics really well but have different capabilities from their extra features. The Note is geared towards productivity with things like the S Pen while the iPhone is geared towards a simplified UX. As my main phone, I'd pick the Note due to its extra features. For my second phone, I'd pick the iPhone because I like to experience both Android and iOS and I think the 6S is a great iOS showcase. The Note 5 may run TouchWiz, but I still think it's a great showcase device on how Android could work for productivity. Mmmmm, Android Smores....
  • I have to get this off my chest. I love my GNote 5 but the whole update situation is really annoying. In fact I am considering changing this for a nexus 6p. I know I do prefer my Note and I know updates aren't as important as maybe I am making out or going to make out. I still haven't got my December and January security patches. It's not good enough and I read a little while ago the "plans" for the Marshmallow update on the galaxy devices. February for the Note and Edge plus? When you see other manufacturers getting there updates out and I know it's not an easy thing for Samsung due to there broad range of devices but on the other hand it's Samsung one of the leaders in the mobile tech world they should be putting a fair bit emphasis on there software updates making these devices more secure and just more up to date with current operating systems. Priority should be on the note 5 and edge + and should be by now well trickled down the device list its near the end of January it's crazy. I can't stress enough that I know as I said earlier that updates aren't everything if the phone is working etc.... Still for me I like my updates and fair enough takes time but I just can't help wondering are they keeping this hanging on until the arrival of the S6? Wow off my chest haha Posted via the Android Central App
  • Your device is secure, this whole security nonsense is nothing but hogwash. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Agreed. Posted via the Android Central App
  • You mean the S7, right? The S6 has been out for nearly a year. Mmmmm, Android Smores....
  • They probably are waiting for the S7 in order to release marshmallow to other phones. It's just a sales strategy. If they do update before that, Android M on S7 will definitely have better/more features than Android M on S6. So people with Samsung phones from last year will get a watered down version of the very same software, compared to their 2016 lineup. And it will be worse still for mid-range A devices, if they do end up getting updated at all. Think of it this way - the cheaper the phone, the lesser/laggier the features in the new update, regardless of whether the hardware is capable to handle the newer software. They have to do this in order to compel people to upgrade from older and/or lesser phones to newer flagships. How else do you suppose they will maintain an upward momentum in sales? That's what probably takes the most amount of time, (un)optimizing the software for every device.
    Case in point- Lollipop on Note 4 vs Lollipop on Note 5... Posted via the Nexus 6P!
  • Just got my Note 5's, (my wife and I) and having fun with them. We came over from BlackBerry after the wait for the Priv was too long. I like the form factor of the Note. For having a larger screen, it's seems much smaller than the 6 Plus or the 6P, with the same size screen. I'm happy with the choice of the Note 5 for us.
  • The display isn't less accurate - it's signifcantly more, if you set it to Basic color profile. Check phonearena if you want to know what I'm talking about.
  • I wanna know why manufacturers of android handsets (or even the chipset manufacturers themselves) aren't getting the same performance out of their phones that Apple is. Seriously, Apple has a dual core with 2GB of RAM which you would think would be inline with a $100 phone, but IRL out perform a phone with 4 times the cores all clocked at a higher speed with twice the RAM. Either Apple is doing something VERY right *shudder* or everyone else is doing something VERY wrong.. Blackberry Priv
    Nvidia Shield "Portable"
    Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
  • apple has only their phones to manage, and iOS is theirs. Android has a million devices, all of them running their own version of Android. A LOT more effort goes into that process, and it would be impossible for them to achieve similar results as Apple under the circumstances. that said, iPhone has a great chip and they do an excellent job with RAM management.
  • Apple has always prioritized single-core performance with their chips. There may only be 2 cores, but each of those cores pack serious punch. For the 6S, they bundled that A9 processor with NVMe flash storage and LPDDR4 memory. Couple that with Apple's optimization in iOS and it's a speed machine. Not that Android phones are slow (they are pretty darn fast too) but maybe the clockspeed and core count race needs to end now.
  • I own both the Note 4 and Nexus 6, and I enjoy both phones. Especially the Note 4 after it received 5.1.1 from Verizon. Posted via the Android Central App
  • One glaring item you left out of the note was in addition to wireless charging. The Note 5 implements Fast wireless charging. Huge Difference.
  • "Meanwhile, when Apple releases an update it applies to all of their currently supported devices — including several previous generations — and is available immediately." This line doesn't tell the whole story. Yes, iOS updates go out immediately to all their phones. But with Android, system apps like Google Search, Play Store, etc can be updated just as quickly, without having to wait for an OS update.
  • Thought Htc started the trend. Thats kinda rude. You could have said That helped start the trend! Isbthat so hard Posted via the Android Central App
  • I sold my note 5 and went back to a 6S, why? The antenna issue with the note 5, everything worked well but the antenna. After researching the forums it seems this is an issue with note 5 engineering. Got tired of low bars wherever i traveled, I could have sent it to Samsung for repair but I've heard that not much comes from that since it's a design issue not hardware..wish there was a Samsung store as Apple. Why pay for insurance 150+ or ship out device when Apple takes care of exchange on the spot? But i will say Note 5 is a better device when it comes to camera, screen and snappiness. Let's hope Samsung learns from their mistakes and the note 6 becomes a true iPhone killer. In the meantime I bought a zte zmax 2 for 100.00 to feed by android craving.
  • I swore off getting the Note 5 due to no removable battery/storage. I was very close to getting the Moto X Pure but Bestbuy had too good a deal to pass up for the Note 5 so I picked up the 64gb model late last year. This phone rocks, so fast compared to my S4. I consistently get over 6 hours of on screen time, streaming the whole time. I don't rally notice the storage space limitation as 64gb is plenty. My photos get moved to the cloud anyway and I use Plex to stream movies from home. I'm very happy with this device. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Good review! What I would love to see is an iPhone6s+ vs a Nexus 6p comparo!Can you shoot me a link if it's already happened? Otherwise, make it happen! I think it'd be a great review! One of the things I appreciate so very much about these reviews is that it's not just "praise the Android", "bash the Apple" fanboyism, but in addition to rightfully pointing out where the Android shines and the Apple doesn't, you are also all to willing to point out clearly and candidly where the Apple does great, and the Android lags. I mean, it's not unclear where your biases lie, and there's nothing wrong with that. Anyone who says they have no biases are either lying to you, lying to themselves, or are not yet sufficiently informed enough on the matter to have been capable of forming them. What's important instead is managing and working through those biases, and that you strive to be as objective and fair and balanced as you can be, that you are a gracious host to the competition, and that you are capable of cranking out valuable, helpful, thought provoking reviews - like this one! :-) In all those ways, I say you are! Cheers!
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  • The Galaxy Note 5 is the best smartphone I've EVER owned bar none. It's such a huge improvement over the the Note 4 and even the Galaxy S6 and S6 edge. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I love the "spec heads"