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Google's Nexus team answers burning questions about the 6P and 5X

Following Google's announcement of its latest Nexus smartphones, the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P, the Nexus team has taken to Reddit to engage with the community in an AMA. Google's Hiroshi Lockheimer, David Burke, Krishna Kumar and Sandeep Waraich are all on hand answer questions from the Nexus faithful, and here are some of the highlights so far:

Q: What does the "X" and the "P" stand for?

X for the core of the Nexus brand (plus it sounds cool!), P for premium.

Q: Was it a conscious decision to leave out Qi wireless charging?

We added Qi wireless charging starting with N4 because plugging in USB micro B was such a hassle! (Which way is up!?) With this year's Nexii, we support USB Type-C which has a reversible connector so there's no more guessing. AND it charges incredibly swiftly: 1% to 100% in 97 mins on the 6P for example (the first ~45 mins of charging is especially fast). Meanwhile, wireless charging adds z (thickness). So, ease of plugging in + fast charging + optimizing for thinness made us double down on Type-C instead of wireless!

Q: What made the team decide to partner with Huawei and LG this year for the Nexus devices?

5X: We wanted to bring the LG-Google band back together. So many N5 fans, we couldn't possibly disappoint! 6P: Always nice to work with new players — we have a history of working with a bunch of folks: HTC, Motorola, Samsung, Asus and now Huawei!

Q: Why is 16gb still the base model for the Nexus 5x in 2015?

The idea here was to strike a balance between premium features/experiences and affordability.

Q: Is the rear facing camera on the 6P and 5X identical?

Yes. Both devices have the same camera - a 12.3MP camera, with a large 1.55um pixels, which works great in all conditions - especially low light. And both have LDAF for fast auto-focus.Yea, same sensor (IMX377) and F/2.0 optics. But 6P has more CPU/GPU horsepower so has a few additional features like 240fps slomo (vs 120fps on 5X), Smartburst, and EIS.

Q: About no OIS. Or is there some substitute in the 5X/6P for it?

We've done a bunch of things to provide image stabilization: 1. The Nexus 6P/5X has a large 1.55um pixel camera and the amount of motion blur due to hand-shake is lower when you have large pixels. 2. We have a feature we call "lucky shot" internally. When you take a picture, behind the scenes, we select the best of 3 bursts of images. 3. When you use video, we have optic-flow-based image stabilization. 4. When you use SmartBurst, we select the best image from the burst (for example a shot with eyes open).

Q: Does the Nexus 5X have USB 3.1?

Nope! Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P supports USB 2.0

Q: Where is the NFC antenna located in the 5X and 6P?

On 6P the NFC coil sits just above the Nexus Imprint fps [and] is exposed behind the camera coverglass (which is GG4 BTW). On Nexus 5X, the coil is wrapped around the back camera. And we have tested it rigorously for payments experience and it works great! And for peer-to-peer and reader mode too BTW.

If you'd like to check out every question and answer in full, you can do so from the link below.

Source: Reddit

  • Disappointing that they're using USB 2.0 with a USB Cable connection. The potential for speedy transfers is diminished, but I guess that use case is not as common? Posted via the Android Central App
  • At least it has fast charging though. I'm stuck with a fairly worthless USB Type C on my OP2. Posted via the Android Central App
  • 3.0 should have been the standard for USB C. I had no idea their reasoning for adding wireless charging was because they didn't know how to use micro USB or thought it was too hard or whatever. I figured it was because it is so convenient to drop the phone on a charger at night or top it up while at work yet not having to worry about cords. I'd have preferred micro usb, fast charging and wireless charging to USB C. Right now USB C is going to be as annoying as a proprietary charger and the Nexus 5X doesn't even come with a USB C cable that will connect to a computer (Unless you have a new macbook or a new Pixel chromebook) which means we have to buy another $10 cord/adapter or whatever.
  • I'm pretty sure the 810 doesn't do 3.0. If so, it wasn't really a decision they could make.
  • Ahh, I didn't realize that.
  • Specs from Qualcomm's own website show usb 3.0 support for both the 808 and 810 so.... Ya
  • Thanks. I don't know why I was thinking otherwise.
  • Qualcomm 3.0 quick charge and USB-C 3.0, 3.1 aren't directly correlated, so u can have USB-C 3.1 with quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 ... should've been 3.1 in the 6p.
  • And what about the lack of QI charging. I'm disappointed. I've grown accustomed to this feature on both my Nexus devices. I'm sitting this one out and if they don't put it back next time I'll look at other phones unfortunately. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Same here
  • The SD 800 in the the Note 3 supported 3.0... why wouldn't the 810 support it?
  • Seriously, doesn't come with a data cable? That blows.
  • All about that cloud... Drive, Photos, Music....Google thinks they have you covered. They are mostly right.
  • No they aren't. It takes less time with a cable +++ Insert witty signature, watch as others not get it, profit +++
  • That's why i said mostly right. They want to be all about the cloud...also this cuts a few cents off each unit.
  • save? Not really. All they had to do was send a USB-A to USB-C cable with a USB-A charger. But no, instead they get us a USB-C charger with USB-C to USB-C cable. So unless you buy adapter or have a computer with usb-c port, you cant transfer files. edit: they are still sending a cable. Now we just get a worthless USB-C charger aswell :/
  • Over Sprint, yes.
  • Google also thinks everyone has access to free wifi hotspots and Unlimited Data to stream everything from.
  • Says on the box " USB-C to standard type a cable "
  • the box contents are a usb-c to usb-c cable with the carger beeing usb-c. so, no, no data unless you got USB-c on your computer. but everyone has a macbook or chromebook pixel.
  • On all my microusb cables I put a piece of tape on the part that is "up" for my phone. No guesswork involved.
  • It's easier to just dab a drop from fingernail polish on the top... Use darker colored polish for light cords and lighter colored polish for dark (white) cords.
  • Or, every single micro USB cable has "ridges" on the "this side up" side. no need to look at which way, the ridges always face up. Can't believe android users don't know that.
  • Actually, the end has the USB logo/symbol on them... not ridges... but you can NOT see always it in a darkened room and on some cables it's very smooth so you might NOT be able to feel them. Another thing you FAILED to realize is.. not all micro usb ports are installed the same way. There are many devices that requires the cord to be inserted upside down, with that "logo/symbol" facing downwards. So my suggestion of using nail polish to dab a tiny dot on the top (or the side that should face upwards) is still valid and still a good one.
  • I have had over 10 different android devices, every single usb port has faced the same way across every single name brand I have tried. I have never had to look at my cable, they all go in the same exact way. ridges/logo/symbol up. maybe 3rd party cheapo cables don't follow that rule. I don't use cheapo $2 cables.
  • That's great... I've encountered one that didn't. That's what's interesting about Android... So many varieties.
  • Pro tip, works on USB C cables too.
  • USB 3.0 is probably pointless unless they've gone with a pretty high end storage controller, and even then it would mostly help with reading from the phone rather than writing to it... I think the new iPhone was the first to break past 250MB/s on sequential reads (e.g. large contiguous files, like video) but it's still far slower on writes (170MB/s vs 400+, or thereabouts) or any random I/O (anything involving smaller files, etc). Most Android phones have much slower storage controllers and NAND arrangements, usually closer to 175MB/s and 35MB/s for sequential read/write respectively. USB 2.0 is good for around 45MB/s after overhead etc... So it's basically only a bottleneck if you're constantly pulling large files from the phone over a wire, 4K smartphone videophiles can weep about it but most everyone else would benefit little from it at this point. In a year or two more when storage controllers have improved across the board I'd agree it'll be much more of a value add for the enthusiast that still uses a cable to transfer anything from or to a phone... Still kind of a niche thing tho. Personally I tend to stream video or pull it wirelessly from my TiVo or Amazon, and I only bulk transfer music once or twice a year. Avid smartphone photographers and videographers in particular make the best usage case for 3.0, it sure is quicker to offload files via OTG than LTE... Speaking of, does USB OTG still work with their Type C implementation? Hopefully, that would be an even bigger show stopper for me than no Qi.
  • there is no word on USB-OTG, but there is nothing limiting in either the software, hardware (SOC) or port. so I dont se why not.
  • Don't worry, with only 16GB to fill, shouldn't take that long to transfer anything over...
  • Lol
  • I can't honestly see the advantage to having a "faster" usb connection, i just use Wi-Fi (or LTE since i have unlimited) to sync files using bittorrent sync. Which i find faster than looking for the cable, unplugging it, plugging it into the computer, plugging my phone in, waiting till the dialog box pops up (if it does) than finding the file i want and moving it over.
  • From someone who uses the cable to only transfer music, it doesn't take thaaat long on usb2 let's be honest. My first reaction to reading the specs was confused/disappointed too.
  • there's a salesman at work that ends every sentence with an exclamation point.... i fucking loathe it... nobody is that consistently excited
  • Exclamations and up talk need to die.
    Up talk makes people sound naive and insecure. Exclamations (too many) are just stupid.
  • Jeb! LOL
  • No! We don't have enough of them! Never surrender!!! +++ Insert witty signature, watch as others not get it, profit +++
  • Maybe general population is indeed around 3rd grader intellect (as somewhere suggested), so you have to treat it proper :) just look at the political rhetoric success - just dumb it and masses gonna love you more.
    I never thought of myself and friends highly in any way, but when you here anybody from PR or Politician talk , you really have to get offended. So, what I'm trying to say is that I - We didn't get smarter, but many people are getting dumber and dumber day after day, so there is always someone to use that to benefit. "Keep'em illiterate with sweaty sleeves up, and you got nothing to worry about" VZW Moto X 2014/2013 DE
  • I don't mean this disrespectfully in any way, but given the content of your post, | hope English is your second language otherwise haterz incoming...
  • Hmm, this didn't come out quite as intended, can a moderator remove my comment please (or can a kindly passer by report it for removal please - I can't report my own post, thanks)
  • I think following it up the way you did shows u didn't mean any disrespect. we all make comments on here once in awhile we wish we can take back. I never criticize people's English cause you never know if like you said it's a second language or they might just have trouble writing. you obviously realize that so I wouldn't sweat it.
  • Don't be so politically correct. You didn't say anything bad. Posted via the Android Central App
  • its not about being politically correct. it is about being a decent human being.
  • There's a great chrome extension that replaces "political correctness" with "being a decent human being". Posted via the Android Central App
  • “I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.” - Miss South Carolina Separated at birth?
  • Now I hear that you tube some sung to Hey There Delilah...
  • Sorry, I don't think exclamation point means exited... No? The sales person should be re-educated. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I actually am fairly disappointed that it does not have USB 3.0 support just because it could but truthfully...only things i will use the port for is charging, ADB, and maybe some RAW photo transfers. Speed really not a concern for the most part.
  • To bad you probably dont have a USB-C port on your computer, because the cable provided in the box is usb-c to usb-c Better order a usb-a to -c cable for all that adb+raw
  • Came here to find out if they had USB 3.0 or 2.0. Question answered. I will need to order a handful of spare cables since this will be my first USB-C device, I wasn't sure if it really mattered if I got cables that supported 3.0
    Bummed they got rid of wireless charging though, it was super convenient to just plop the phone down and be done with it.
    but I suppose fast charging will be good.
  • I saw on a forum (maybe the Nexus subreddit) that people are getting $1-$2 adapters to use on their old USB cables until prices start coming down on the type-C cables. Some were on Ebay, some on Monoprice. I can't speak to their quality/effectiveness, but I'll probably try that before picking up extra cables when my preorder 5X arrives. Besides, with QC you shouldn't need many charger spots unless you're an extreme power user. One at home, one in the car. Maybe one at work. If we need more than that, then the 5X battery and Android M are an utter disaster.
  • So basically no Qi charging cause we dumbed down the direction the port should be plugged in because no one in the world ever had to plug in a USB to change their phones prior... :-/ We added automatic unlock for car doors so people didn't have to worry about which way to stick the key in. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Qi, while cool and convenient, charges much slower. I'd rather have a fast charge than a one that feels futuristic but is less efficient.
  • I'd rather have both Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Same here. Will be patiently waiting till next year for the next one.. Maybe that will have it Posted via the Android Central App
  • Exactly!!!!!! I use wireless charging at night when I don't care about speed to help keep my USB port from wearing out quicker... and if I need a charge during the day I use a cable and quick charge. And if I need a really fast charge I just swap out my battery.... oh wait the Nexus can't do that either
  • That's cool and all, Glad Google made the choice for you and not have options. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Quick charge wireless is not much slower and should be included +++ Insert witty signature, watch as others not get it, profit +++
  • yeah I thought maybe that black bar would've allowed quick wireless charging. not something I use though. I'm more disappointed (for lack of a better word) it's not usb-c 3.1 ... there's a significant difference. it's still a great phone, and I have high expectations for 2016 ... hopefully it'll all come together cause though it had a few bright spots, 2015 was brutal. this is a serious question. are you anti stock? do u just not like nexus since it's never had great battery/camera? or a combination of both. if it's stock them you'll never like it obviously, but I'm just asking cause I wonder if they put it all together next year, which they might if they continue with premium versions, if you and others would consider getting it.
  • Nah, hes a samsung fanboy lol. Ive seen him around the forums and in comment threads a lot. Don't get me wrong. I am not insulting him. We all like what we like. Personally, I wont buy any device that does not have a stock Android UI. Certain customizations like Motorola and OnePlus are fine, but the UI needs to be as stock as possible for me to even consider buying the device.
  • I'm sure no offense was taken, Nexus fanboy.
  • yawn. how many times are u gonna say the same thing. cmon bud, your comments used to be funny and original. fanboy is an outdated term that 6th graders still use. what's next, are you gonna tell us how "buttery smooth" your Samsung is? lol
  • On that last part we know he'd be full of shit, lol
  • Say what you want but Stock Android makes for a powerful and efficient user experience. I know exactly what I want on my devices. Nothing beats the ability to add/remove features on your devices. Posted via the Android Central App
  • some people (like the tomato) make comments just to get a reaction, and even though nonexus makes a lot of comments I disagree with, I do think he believes what he says. don't get me wrong, when he smells blood he trounces, and some people just don't get that he's simply amusing himself, but at least he listens to reason. if the nexus had all the features he wants in a phone, he wouldn't let the name Nexus stop him from getting it. there are some people that are actually immature enough where they would though. those people are dull and I have no time for them. I'm just curious if my man simply dislikes stock. if that's the case, it's everything else is nonnegotiable and his comments aren't as significant IMO. that goes for everybody though. like when someone says they're getting it as long as "the black bar has something special inside" (somebody actually said that). or the dude that said it's "perfect" but he's not getting it cause if the hump, then when he saw the picture, he said he's not getting it cause of the 810. that's a fraud move. resorting to name calling like fan boy, when you're a hater and constantly comment and read about phones you claim to hate, again, a fraud move. nonexus at least is consistent and he's not a fraud. for instance, I'm not an LG fan cause I'd the software, no chance I'd get one. so me commenting on the rear buttons or constantly reading about the G4 is pointless. I find certain things funny, but predictability gets dull, and I don't think that's the case with him.
  • I see no need to call people names. Like I said, everyone has their preferences. That does not make any one quantitatively better. I know you were not directing your comment toward me, but I was not calling NoNexus a fanboy in a derogatory manner. I was just saying it in the sense that he is a fan of Samsung phones. I do not like Samsung phones one bit, but that doesnt mean that they are terrible. I love Smart Things. and Samsung appliances though lol. So the company is not lost on me.
  • yeah I was definitely not directing that toward you as u stated!! we're in agreement!
  • So many people want a so called premium phones that's all metal and extremely thin, and are so hell bent on having a pretty piece of jewel in their pocket rather than a device with more functionality, that so many manufacture are now moving in this direction now... but making an all metal phone poses engineering problems when it comes to wireless signals. So now we are seeing more and more phones with less functionality because people only want pretty looking thin phone... just sad!! If Google would come out with something like a Nexus Note that had... 5.7" AMOLED 1440 x 2560 screen, SD 820 (when its available), 3-4GB Ram, 64GB+ Storage, plastic removable back and 3600 mAh removable battery, Wireless charging, Type C USB 3.1, IR Blaster, maybe even a stylus.... I'd buy this phone in a heartbeat, I wouldn't even have to think twice about it!!!! These are the things I want but apparently I'm one of the few.
  • I haven't experienced it being slow at all.. It charges quite fast on the old Nexus 4 orb.
  • Yeah, I'd rather have both, too. And you get both with phones that have wireless charging capability. There is no such thing (right now) as a phone that only charges wirelessly.
  • No. Basically no Qi charging because the slim-phone-Nazis need to be able to slip their anorexically slim phones into their skinny jeans.
  • Haha true that. Those people should buy an iPhone! My Moto X is more than 10mm thick, and I dont mind. Now, if they could actually get the terrible battery fixed and actually implement Qi charging that would be better. /
  • last year more than 20% of Moto's revenue came via their partnership with Verizon. Moto's Maxx and Turbo are known and marketed for their battery life. The Play and soon to be Force, both have significantly larger batteries than the Pure. And the Pure, when broken down piece by piece, was shown to have plenty of room to be able to fit the larger battery, with room to spare. Those are the facts. Did Moto simply opt to trim 600 mAh off the battery to keep the weight down? Definitely possible. But I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Moto and Verizon, two business partners that have been very good to each other, discussed not putting the larger battery inside the Pure, so that the Turbo and Maxx, two phones exclusive to VZv in the US, would continue to be the devices with the larger batteries. The Pure still has a respectful 3000 mAh battery that most average consumers wouldn't let determine whether or not they but it. I don't think that's all that unrealistic, and I'm no conspiracy guy. To me, that's just business and make sense for both parties IMO.
  • So its lucky that none of us have spouses and families with multiple phones...that would mean extra cables in different types in multiple cars and rooms in the house...thank goodness no has that...(Faceplant) They have not made my life easier if I get a N5x or p its more complicated. It's an Apple move... Posted via Serenity
  • What? USB Type C is a superior connector. The change was going to take place eventually, pretty soon you will be able to get a USB C cable for dollars.
  • +1. The point of Nexus is to move the Android universe forward. Even the new wireless charging spec is far slower at charging than USB-C. With ever larger batteries, until most consumers care less about thinness than wireless charging expect this compromise. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I agree with that, but Qi and USB 3.1 were things that bring the universe forward and for all the double talk about not needing OIS, there is a reason that was a great addition to cellphone cameras. I'll have to wait and see what sorts of pictures come from the new camera, but OIS is something that will be missed regardless of the trickery that takes place behind the scenes.
  • I mean this is going to happen at some point... there's no way to move to this new, better connector and not have a transition period where old cables and new devices are no longer compatible.
  • Why no LED notification light in the nexus 5x while 6p has one?
  • It has one in the middle of the bottom speaker grille. The specification list has been updated on Google's website.
  • Yup, it was just an omission on the spec page. And it's fully accessible to apps.
  • Just like everything else about the 5X to them - an afterthought.
  • Design and cost Posted via the Android Central App
  • They're answer about not including Qi Charging is BS. Even if the cable goes in either way, it's still faster to just set my phone on a charger as opposed to have to find the cable, grab it, and plug it in.
  • It's faster to set your phone on the pad but it definitely won't charge as fast. Posted from my Nexus 6/Nexus 7 2013/Surface Pro 3
  • True, but some of us don't need to charge our phones except at night. So it doesn't matter how fast it charges unless you only get 30 minutes of sleep at night. And when we need to charge it quickly for some reason, we have cables. Or fast wireless charging.
  • I'm in the same boat, I charge at night and don't care about speed. And on my desk it's nice to set it down and pick it up without the wire being annoying Posted via the Android Central App
  • No, actually they do have fast wireless charging now which is quite fast.
  • Yes, and it's nearly as fast as fast wired charging.
  • But not quite Posted from my Nexus 6/Nexus 7 2013/Surface Pro 3
  • But certainly fast enough - especially when one considers the benefit of being able to just sit the charging mat next to the bed and sit the phone on it. The UX is better with wireless fast charging same as the wireless charging experience for Android Wear devices is better.
  • Very few people probably used the feature, not to mention it would bump the price up then you'd have nerds complaining about the price.
  • Oh yeah? I suppose you have something which shows the price would be "bumped up" enough to make that big of a difference?
  • I have this thing called common sense! Adding more features increases the price! Pretty simple.
  • exactly. if every single spec people want are included, it'd be $200 more and then everyone would be yapping. it's not easy to find the perfect balance, but I think Google did a nice job with it this year.
  • Ohhh, I see, so you have no idea. Okay. A phone being an extra twenty bucks for wireless charging is something I'm preeeetty sure most can handle. So, unless you have anything to show how much MORE it would cost to add, then you comment is worthless.
  • I think you misinterpreted his statement. he's just saying in general that adding features will bump up the price. for instance, if you add wireless charging, that may be $20 and I agree with you, most people wouldn't mind that. but where do you stop? and the real question is, if you kept it, how many people would buy it just cause of that, minus the people that wouldn't buy it cause now it starts at $519 instead of $499. I assume Google did their homework, and though it's not a perfect science, they have to make those types of decisions. they wanted to go with the metal build, but wouldn't be able to if they did the wireless charge. so now you're talking about using plastic or glass. they probably wanted to differentiate themselves since Samsung has glass and moto the plastic. plus the 5x. again, not suggesting anyone is right or wrong, but he wasn't simply saying $20 for wireless charge and people won't buy it. there are other factors for that specifically, and he's just pointing out the obvious, which is that every feature they add costs money. it's kinda like the people that get upset when a phone doesn't "include" something "free" like a quick charger. well that isn't free, and if it was included, the price goes up, so you're paying for it anyway. leaving it out is smarter cause it gives people the option, and also keeps the price down.
  • It's all physiological, studies have proven if a product costs say, 19.99 instead of 20.99 it will sell more. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yup, I have no desire. Never had Qi, so I don't have any accessories, and much prefer the QC. At some point, these phones aren't going to have every damn feature.
  • A (admittedly non-scientific) poll on Google+ says 77% of respondents use wireless charging daily. And since 16% say they will film hummingbirds in slow motion daily, you know many of the respondents are Nexus fanboys.
  • Google knows how you use your phone. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Which Reminds of one Big company that loves to tell consumers what is best for them and how to turn a workaround into something cool :) VZW Moto X 2014/2013 DE
  • +1 VZW Moto X 2014/2013 DE
  • Okay you asked for it....... Stock Android sits alone atop Mt Olympus because Stock Android is the only example of greatness. Stock Android is the original gold standard. Nothing and I mean nothing comes close. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Actually I believe HTC's Sense user interface is an enhancement of the stock experience. Over the years many HTC Sense innovations have been incorporated into stock Android. If HTC Sense didn't exist, I'd prefer stock.
  • The addon cards are like $5 retail. Having them mass produced and installed in a phone is probably like $1-2 at most.
  • Gross oversimplification. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I was thinking the same thing about that BS answer to the wireless charging question. These companies know that people are so addicted to new gadgets, that can can strip away useful features, give us some BS excuses as to why they removed it, and people will still buy it. But this wireless fast charger is legit and I already put away all my qc cables for a rainy day. Posted via Note 5/AC App...
  • Wait, what? No wireless charging because you don't have to worry about which way is up on USB-C? How about I don't have to worry about a cable at all with wireless charging?
  • Charging pad, charging cable, you're still dealing with cords. One just seems cooler than the other.
  • No, one is far more convenient. You plug in a wireless charging pad ONCE. You arrange the wire in the most convenient way possible, since you never have to mess with it. Some people unplug the wireless charger to quick charge their phone directly, but that's only in rare cases. I've done it a total of 2 times since I got my wireless charging pad.
  • The only time I even see a charger/cord is at night because my Nexus 6 battery is the undisputed champ. That's what happens when you roll stock, your device operates more efficiently. Rouge Tomato I hope one day you get to live a life where your not charging up your device every four hours. Stock Android is ready to wrap you in its loving embrace. Yes the grass is greener in the fields of Stock Android. Posted via the Android Central App
  • You've really gone full retard.
  • You've really going full wireless pad hugger Posted via the Android Central App
  • You do understand that wireless charging is damaging the battery more right?
  • Is it really that more convenient? You always have to return to the same place to charge unless you're buying multiple pads. Even those are being set up to never be moved if I'm understanding your usage of the technology correctly, which still limits the "where" you're charging your device. Don't get me wrong--I've used wireless charging, don't have a problem with it per-se. I just don't think it's objectively any better or more convenient than wired charging. Certainly cooler, but not necessarily better and the convenience it offers is negligible by comparison.
  • Wow, a rational objective real use experience.
  • One too many drinks you've had....
  • You remind me of those people in the early 90s who used to complain that cordless phones still had to be plugged in.
  • No, that additional 1mm in thickness was the troublesome part and maybe another buck saved for licensing. VZW Moto X 2014/2013 DE
  • yeah no doubt that was a lame answer, but what else could they say? I'm surprised such a big fuss is being made over wireless charging of all things. nice feature, yeah we all agree, but is it that complicated to just plug it in?
  • 1st world problems, lol. When people complain about having to plug in a phone (especially USB-C) you just have to laugh
  • it's so true. I get it's a nice feature, but really, how hard is it to plug in a USB-C of all things once a day. I question if people's sincerity when they claim that's a deal breaker. also, they'd have had to use glass or plastic this year. they wanted to differentiate themselves from Samsung and make a premium phone, different from the 5x, so metal was really their only option. what I'm sure they did, was used their data and calculated the amount of people that won't buy or simply due to the lack of wireless charge, vs the people that would buy cause of the premium build. also the price might've been different if you take the cost of the metal and subtract whatever material they'd have used if they went with the wireless charge, and also factored in the cost of installing the wireless charging capabilities. the cost also would include having to actually purchase the charging pad. it's not as easy as saying just install a wireless charger and add an extra $10-$20 to the price. it's a lot more complicated than that, and isn't a perfect science. must people that are interested in a Nexus care about stock and updates. Google prioritized the other features, and concluded camera, aesthetics, battery, USB-C, quick charge, fingerprint sensor and front speakers were most important. not to mention a price tag of $499. have to draw the line somewhere, and I'm sure they spent hundreds of hours and a lot of money on research trying to figure out exactly where to draw that line.
  • And I think they did It perfectly this time around. The only fault that comes to mind isn't Google's fault at all. This is easily the best nexus ever and Google killed it. I only wish they cared about expanding the nexus brand as big time player in the market. They haven't because they don't want to compete on a large scale with their OEM allies and that's understandable. But stock should be way more mainstream than it is. Thank god for moto
    The nexus line is only gonna become more mainstream with each release though. The experience is so much cleaner/smoother than everything else and immediate software updates on Android need to be much more mainstream
  • agreed. Google can literally sell the Nexus at cost, in an effort to expand Fi, which I'm sure they discussed. as you stated, that would surely upset their partners, so they really have no choice. they can drop $10 billion tomorrow on marketing without blinking an eye, educating the world on stock and it's benefits. like you said, that would interfere with their relationships with the other OEMs though. 2016 is going to be an interesting year for Android to say the least. High end phones will be forced to either offer more competitive prices, or just make ridiculous phones. and even though supposedly the version of the 810 in the 6p performs much better than it did 8 months ago, the damage has already been done. we won't have to worry about that next year. and how much thinner can these phones possibly get? have we reached the point where the average consumer is content with size/weight, so now battery life becomes more important? the pendulum will swing, it always does ... hopefully it'll start in March with the HTC.
  • Not about complications. It's About choice and / or convenience.
  • No wireless charging because it would have added more thickness, really? Just say you wanted to keep it affordable and not use a lame ass excuse. Posted via the Android Central App
  • How much cost would wireless charging really add to a phone? $10? We're not talking retail prices for the components.
  • R&D cost. Plus making the design more difficult, plus the difficulty in using metal, which was obviously a design choice mad early on, it's not simply a matter of adding parts. It's a matter of adding another factor to the design process and making it more difficult to meet design goals. this equals money.
  • How much would it cost for you to make the sensible switch to Stock Android? The time is now for you to join the ranks of the elite, the time is now for you to pledge allegiance to Stock Android. The grass really is greener in the fields of Stock Android. Posted via the Android Central App
  • I mean, it does add more thickness. Not a ton, making that a pretty poor excuse in itself, but it likely was one of the factors.
  • There are many reasons why Qi wireless charging has been rendered essentially too restrictive. Technology rapidly eclipsed it's usefulness. It happens.
  • G2 on Verizon had 3000 mAh battery and Qi charging and still managed to stay below 9mm thickness. Never heard anyone complain how it was uncomfortable to hold it or sit in pocket.
    So, no just a lame excuse. If licensing was gonna cost them extra few bucks it is obvious what sealed the deal.
    That thickness "problem" is more part of this "thinner better" Ad talking point, than a genuine concern about user experience. VZW Moto X 2014/2013 DE
  • Have to agree w/ others. The thickness comment is a very lame excuse. Also: GS6 has Qi and QC and is 6.8mm thin. So, phones can have Qi and remain very thin. And finally, how thin do we need our phones to be? I'll gladly take a thicker phone w/ a fat battery all day long over a thin phone just for the sake of 'fashion'.
  • While I agree that the thickness excuse is lame, you'll have to remember that the battery in the 6P is about 900mAh larger in capacity than the anemic GS6. Something that made me resent owning a GS6 Edge. I guess we can't have it all. The 6P does have a fat battery inside while maintaining a svelte physique. Google and Huawei had to skimp on SOMETHING, so I guess wireless charging became expendable. I'm also wiling to bet that SD810 was readily available in scale and was something Qualcomm wanted to get rid of before pushing the next gen Snapdragons. Posted via the Android Central App
  • The Nexus 6 is crazy thick wish a huge battery. With quick charge i think they made the right call this time. BTW love the avatar CARNAGE!!
  • The Nexus 6 also has quick charge,and wireless charging,and is not thick. Posted via the Android Central App
  • It's over 10mm...while maybe crazy thick was pushing it, i say thats pretty think. maybe not as this as the Moto x Pure at over 11mm but still. They probably should have thrown it in to the LG nexus but with the Huawei being metal they wanted to keep things equal there
  • No! QI is worth it. Most people don't care about thickness as opposed to length and width. I want my QI feature Posted via the Android Central App
  • Aluminum body have anything against qi charging? Can't think of any other phone right now that has both.....anyone?
  • You're spot on, I think. While using a metal unibody is more of a design choice (form) than a necessity (function), I don't think the technology is available yet. Qualcomm has posted on FB recently that its future techs will support wireless charging over a metal chassis, but it just isn't ready yet. Posted via the Android Central App
  • Yeah, for giggles I tried a piece of aluminum foil over the charging pad with my nexus 5 and it did not work. It is baffling that these are really only the second and third nexus devices that does not support any type of wireless charging. Even though google almost never bothered to release accessories for any of their products that would work with the pogo connections on earlier devices.
  • Right, they could have had Qi charging, a bigger battery and gotten rid of the hump, but for those thin phone fanatics obsessed with having razor-thin phones no matter what.
  • Dear Google. When will you realise that not everyone wants to have 6 Inch phone. Why can't you make Nexus 5 more premium? Nowadays premium means big screen, why? I am 6" 8 with big hands but I hate carrying such a big phone in my pocket on Friday's night out. So sorry, but Z5 compact is on its way. Big disappointment. I want premium in smaller size.
  • The Z5 Compact looks like a great phone.