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I'll be perfectly honest, I walked into our most recent podcast not expecting all that much. We're still waiting on Motorola to announce its new phone and release the Moto 360. Yeah, the Amazon Fire Phone is out, but most of the hard-core folks don't want to hear about it, and while I think it's got a lot of interesting things going on with it, it's probably not a phone I'd actually recommend. What we were going to talk about, then?

But an hour and a half later that preconceived notion was proven completely wrong. Nearly 90 full minutes of thoughtful and dynamic conversation about the Fire Phone. And about display technology and what that actually means for us as end users. And the Android L release and what it might mean for design as well as function in conjunction with the desires of HTC and Samsung and others. And yet another week full of engaging questions from the folks listening live, who continue to impress. The Hangouts Q&A feature may be one of my favorite additions to the podcast, actually.

And I've got a few more ideas that we'll try to implement in the coming weeks.Podcasts are in no way dead. Hell, they're still just getting started. If you've yet to give ours a go, I invite you to take a listen to this week's episode. And hit up our podcast page for all the different ways to subscribe so you never miss an episode.

A few other thoughts on the week that was, and the week that's coming up:

  • One thing we forgot to talk about on the podcast is Verizon's new thing about "allowing" you to uninstall some of its "preloaded" bloatware. I dunno if you can call it a preload if it installs itself after you log in. I remember seeing Clash of Clans and Slacker and Hotels.com install themselves as I set up my Verizon LG G3, but I didn't think much of it at the time, figuring it was an actual preload just updating itself. I'm really not crazy about this idea. Once I log into Google Play, I'm the one who should decide what gets installed. Not Verizon. Preloads are preloads, and while they're still bad, at least they're predictable. Hijacking ain't cool.
  • I caught Wynton Marsalis and the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra last night here in Pensacola. I've been to all kinds of concerts and shows, and most of the time they sort of drag on. I know the songs. I know the moves. But this was one of the quickest two hours I've ever had. Easily could have listened to another two hours. And spending time to play with young musicians before the show — that's what it's all about.
  • Now that I think about it, I've been to a few events at the Jazz at Lincoln Center hall in Columbus Circle in New York. But never for jazz. I'll have to do something about that.
  • Mad props to Nilay Patel and our old pal Dieter Bohn for taking the reins of The Verge.
  • Some really good discussion in last week's column. I'm not going to stop using this space once a week to write about whatever I want. Don't like it? Don't read it. There are any number of places that will scrape app feeds and page change alerts and call it a day. We like to do more than that here.
  • What happens when one company fails to respond to a melted phone? Another one swoops in and very publicly gains a customer. Smart.
  • That said, it's still important to remember that for every single battery meltdown, there are millions of others that are perfectly fine. That doesn't mean it's a good thing, but you have to keep these events in perspective.
  • A great take on rooting and why it's just not the be-all end-all it used to be by Ara Wagoner. Check your e-mail, Ara.
  • We're starting to post things to Instagram a bit. Be sure to follow us there if you use it.
  • No, the parking lot isn't finished yet.

That's it for this week. I'm gonna go sweat it out in the yard for a bit. Catch y'all Monday.

 

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The AC podcast is always great fun and very informative. I try to listen live and pop in a question (unfortunately I did not hear the crucial comment until the replay, so I never found it - sorry). Great discussions and feedback on the new Gaming tablet and accessories; also on the subject of screen tech. Glad you went long this time, it was a really interesting show - but it usually is. Invite Rene in again sometime - he always has a good alternative perspective on the industry. I like that.

Take care and have a great week.

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Haha! I was going to say that!

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Re: preloading. I see it this way: Verizon and other carriers are helping people who have no clue about where to find things that are useful to them. Granted, most people who already own smartphones don't need that help. But for a complete newbie, apps like Slacker are helpful. Sure there are a lot of things I don't care about but thank goodness they can be disabled.

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Phil,

I was a developer for an advertising agency once upon a time. We had a parking lot right next to the building. It was rather small (20-30 spaces) but it was quite abused by the towing company that used to own the space next door. The lot was a total waste and needed to be torn up, leveled and then repaved.

Now I have seen entire road done within a month or so (like 5 miles at a time) but for some reason this parking lot took over 6 months to get to the point where we could attempt to park on it. I say attempt because it still was not level (kinda looked like a lasagna noodle) and if you had low clearance you scraped.

We had to have another company come out and redo most of it. Took another 2 months until it was done.

I hope your project is better than that. I look at the pictures but did not take notice of the dates.

Repaving can be a hell of an adventure.

Nexus FTW!!

Too bad it is dead. If it isn't (which I still doubt) it cannot win without actually have an average camera (the N5 was still below average and falling farther behind) and real battery life. I do not think that Volta will help the N5 at all, but maybe they can get it right next time around.

Good luck, I hope it is dead and Silver takes over.

yeah but the Nexus 5 battery is kinda bad so we will have to see if volta brings it up to acceptable levels.

We shall see with the final product.

Lol.Google's engineer was interviewed twice and BOTH times he ruled out that rumor.You can stick to your bloated launchers while I enjoy Android at its finest.Oh and its pretty much confirmed that Motorola is making a 6 inch Nexus.Google it

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Phil, I always enjoy your thoughts. As the senior editor, please help guide Jerry to grow as a writer. Your review, your choice. My request.

Jerry is an excellent writer. He is one of the better technical writers here on AC, and he does not pull any punches. What are you specifically referring to?

Did Jerry steal your lunch and your girlfriend in high school or something? Jerry is one of the best writers on any tech site.

I don't always agree with Jerry's pov, but I still think he writes damned good editorials... Technical matter or otherwise.

Was half expecting some fireworks in this edition since last week's was so fun. Hahaha.... Hopefully we get some more of those!

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Phil...

You have such a huge impact on the Android world, rather you like it or not (and I'm sure you do!); with that said, you have MORE than the right to post whatever the heck you want, ONCE A WEEK, with personal flavor, on just about anything. I agree with you, if people don't like it, get lost or don't read it (would prefer people do the latter if needed since this community is great).

This is what keeps me coming back. You.. AndroidCentral.. is/are different. I read and follow other Android sites but this is my primary. Heck, I even use the AC widget on my phone so I never miss a beat, and I watch your podcasts weekly.

TLDR - Haters gonna hate, keep doing you, Phil.

My nexus 5 installed the Hp print service plug-in without telling. Isn't that bloat? No delete option in apps setting.

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According to the definition of bloat, yes it is bloat. However its on a Nexus so you're not allowed to call it bloat.

It is not bloat, it is a feature of the Nexus Skin. It was a precursor to Android "L" and understanding what OEMs have known for years, people want features (bloat). Hats off to Google for realizing that Samsung, LG and HTC (among others) were right and starting to incorporate things into L

FWIW, at least that plug in works much better than HTC's own, by leaps and bounds. HTC did have a semi native print plug-in (for their own browser etc) about two years earlier tho, but it always cut printing short for me and left me missing pages, like 8 in 10 tries for me, super annoying... Might've not even been their fault, for all I know it could be HP's, same printer works perfectly with KK tho.

I always look forward to your Sunday editor's message. It should be whatever you want it to be. And you need to hire Ara. I've been checking her G+ out. She's a great writer!

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Regarding that melted Galaxy S4, I love the owner's tactful approach instead of bashing Samsung. Hopefully he enjoys his new HTC, and continues to update the thread when/if Samsung responds.

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Great podcast this week and excellent column this morning. I really enjoyed Andrews run down on the shield tablet. He brought a great perspective to it and so did Jerry talking about the wifi direct. I think that tablet may be the sleeper of the Year.

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Phil, I always look forward to your Sunday message and enjoy the off topic subjects you often bring up. We're all nerdy enough during the week - we can all take a break for a few minutes once a week.

Looking forward to a big AC give away to celebrate the grand opening of the parking lot!

I enjoy listening to the AC podcast every week. As for the "great take on rooting" by Ara Wagoner, that was an absolute piece of crap. I don't mean to bash Ara, but she should not be writing an article about rooting when she can't even root a Nexus device without a tool kit. Then she blames root when things don't go as expected. If anybody should explain why you should or shouldn't root, it needs to be Jerry, not someone who can't even use adb and fastboot.

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Yes and if you cannot use the command line in windows you have not business using a computer.

The article was meant more for the novice (if I remember correctly) and the hard way is not the best way...ever.

Why make things more difficult than it needs to be?

I am a total geek (programmer, phone enthusiast, mobile developer, several other things) but I do not use ADB unless I have to, and even then not without reference materials.

Can I do it? Sure. Do I need to? Maybe. Should I do it if there is an easier method? No way

That was an awesome and we'll thought out response. I certainly see the error of my ways and the command line is the way to go.

My bad..

How about stringing a few sentences together to explain that position

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Yeah, I almost stopped reading when she complained that AdAway broke Hulu. The whole post just reads like a typical "root isn't needed anymore and here's why" that's been going around lately.

I know what you mean, it took all I had to finish that article. The way I see it, if you don't know what you're doing and are not willing to learn then you shouldn't try to hack your device. And you should most certainly not write a long article about why root is not needed when things don't go as planned.

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Well that goes without saying. Before you do anything you need to understand it.

That does not mean that a toolkit is the devil and that you need to only use adb and fastboot

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If the author of the article would have understood before she decided to root, she could still be using her Nexus 7 today.

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Ehh, I found her post hard to read too... The mere act of flashing SuperSu shouldn't break hash check for updates as it doesn't change existing files, and you can always undo root and redo it later so your can still take OTAs (one of her big peeves)...

But she still had a point, just didn't communicate it well. I only know those things because I WANT TO learn and I did my research, as many enthusiasts do... The facts are tho, those of use that do that ARE minority, always will be.

Phones and tablets are more appliance-like than ever for average user, more so than the PC ever was (a credit to Google/Apple IMO, not a criticism on MS either), people just expect it these devices to work the first time every time.

Well

I don't like when I go and upgrade a device in store and literally as soon as the phone powers up all the apps many call bloat start to update. Many of us don't have unlimited data. I use Google maps and Map quest and don't subscribe to Verizon navigator so there is zero need to update this app. The same holds true for NFL Mobile and some other apps.

I like the provider recommended apps portion of the Play Store that Verizon and sprint have. Leave the choice to the user.

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If you enjoyed Wynton, go see his father, Ellis, at Snug Harbor in New Orleans. He is the Godfather of jazz in NOLA. I used to live in NOLA and still have friends that work at Snug where Ellis plays regularly. I would catch his show very often, especially when his son Jason was on drums.