Samsung

Samsung has made a statement that they expect a second consecutive quarter with declining profits. The Wall Street Journal also speculates that factors such as a partial sales ban on Korea's top two carriers and perceived opinion that the Galaxy S5 — due to hit stores in Europe and North America Friday, April 11 — doesn't offer enough features to validate the upgrade fees, and the sales figures will not surpass last year's model. They say this will affect sales this quarter as well. We say it's too early to even make that sort of prediction, and we'll wait to count the beans after all is said and done.

Samsung says that the company operating profits have fallen 2.1-percent from the previous year for the quarter ending March 31. The company's profit margins fell 6-percent for Q4 2013, which was Samsung's first drop in the past 24 months.

Source: WSJ

 
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S_C_B says:

I think they'll be OK.

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benthe1 says:

Yes. When you're making BILLIONS each quarter you'll be okay for at least a few years. As long as this isn't the beginning of the end they'll be okay. ;-)

Taz89 says:

They can probably go on for over a decade losing 1-2% and still be making billions. It's when you see dramatic drops in Samsung and dramatic sales increase in its competitors like HTC is when they can worry but right now it's not happening.

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jcastag says:

I am surprised their profits are down... They have 72 phones and 44 tablets in their current lineup lol

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808Mobi says:

Probably due to legal fees.

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radgatt says:

Has Samsung become too big in the mobile space?

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NoNexus says:

Yes, someone needs to step up.. HTC, Sony, LG, lenorola

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robert26101 says:

If HTC would put a removable battery and a 13 to 18 megapixal camera on their phone. I believe they could give Samsung a run for their money. Maybe next year if HTC is still around they will step it up.

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tdizzel says:

Unless someone donates a billion dollars to them to poor into marketing it won't matter much what they put in their phone.

And nobody cares about removable batteries anymore

robert26101 says:

Nobody cares about removable batteries anymore? That's one of the main complaints I hear about HTC. And the camera of course.
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Jay Holm says:

You don't speak for millions of people, you speak for yourself. An embedded battery is a design FLAW!

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khughes6 says:

You forgot to apply "in your personal opinion." Unless you are a hypocrite?

In my personal preference, the non-removable battery is not a flaw. The battery last me (in one m8) from 8am until midnight with juice in the tank. Then in case of emergency I can put it in emergency mode and call/text for a long period of time.

The battery charger extremely quick with Qualcomm 1.0 and I can't imagine how hassle free charging will become when HTC releases the 2.0 charger.

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gololakho says:

Normal folks don't care about the cheap aluminum built. Do you think people go all crazy when they're are holding their soda drinks. People who read these sites are the ones who have been brainwashed by the Apple propaganda to think that aluminum is premium. Look at the prices between aluminum and polycarbonate and see which one is cheaper. Where would HTC get the money to buy premium material when they're losing money left, right and center. One of the reasons Apple is making so much profit is because they're using that cheap aluminum which boast their profits.
Only fools think that aluminum is premium...

benthe1 says:

So you feel an aluminum soda can feels cheaper than a plastic soda bottle? Hmm...

gololakho says:

It's not about how it feels, it's about how much it cost. Here in England a can of coke cost 65p whilst a plastic bottle of coke cost £1.25. You do the math. Don't tell me this BS about it feels premium. I buy a phone to use it not to caress it.

robert26101 says:

I'm getting the S5 but I went to my local At&t store and held both phones and in my opinion the M8 does feel more premium then the S5. So stop being such a fanboy. And if you're not being a fanboy you're sounding like one.
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gololakho says:

As if I care what you think about me. I'm just stating that aluminum is cheaper than polycarbonate. So why should i fool myself to think that it is more premium when its not.

benthe1 says:

But when people say it FEELS premium they're talking about how it FEELS, not how much it costs. Who gives it shit about how much the materials cost for it?

gololakho says:

SMH..... As I said i buy a phone to use it not to feel it. I reserve the feel thing for women breasts and their tight cat. The phone is the last thing that comes to my mind when it comes to something i like to feel.

"Who gives a shit about how much the materials cost for it?" Are you for real?

benthe1 says:

Lol. Are you going to use it with your mind powers without touching it? Sure, I buy phones based on how well they perform and what type of features they have, BUT there are people who think the look and "feel" of the phone are as important as what type of processor it uses...

"I reserve the feel thing for women breasts and their tight cat." Are YOU for real?

ScottJ says:

His woman's "cat" only stays tight because he's not packing any heat, obviously.

benthe1 says:

@ScottJ
Oh man. That one made me laugh. Sad but true.

robert26101 says:

There's a counter argument some would make that plastic or polycarbonate or whatever you want to call it is cheap. And only fools would believe plastic is premium. So it goes both ways.
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gololakho says:

I never said plastic is premium. If you want to buy a phone made from premium material then you should go all in and buy Vertu phone which comes inside a polished titanium case with leather accents and a virtually scratch proof sapphire crystal screen. I'm smart enough not to fool myself that I'm holding a premium phone when I'm holding a phone made from cheap aluminum.

ScottJ says:

Titanium isn't expensive anymore. They put it in golf and tennis balls. Try again.

khughes6 says:

I don't know about that. I was sitting at a table last night and showed my friends my m8. They both have an s4 and an s4 active. Without mentioning any of my preferences for the phone they brought up how nice the phone felt in their hands.

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someguy01234 says:

Sorry dude, but Lenorola doesn't roll well in the tongue.

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NoNexus says:

Meh, your right. Knew it when I typed it lol

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Jay Holm says:

Especially Sony, they don't have a flagship on all 4 national carriers, like HTC, Samsung, and LG do. I don't take Sony seriously because of that.

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xlDeMoNiClx says:

Shows how short-sighted you are.

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NoNexus says:

Profit is still profit

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drokssilva says:

Very true

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Zig261 says:

Shareholders want to see constant growth. Looks like Sammy's stock price will be dipping like a knife through butter.

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NoNexus says:

Won't be that bad

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oddom says:

I am glad maybe they will start making a premium phone with useful features and a newer UX...

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NoNexus says:

It is called the Note 3 or the S5, depending on your needs.

Premium is an overused and tired word. As someone else said, 90% of people use a plastic or rubber case.

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xlDeMoNiClx says:

"Premium" is mainly used by pretentious knobs and people who look for any excuse to try and claim Samsung phones are "cheap" plastic when plastic is better than the crappy aluminum HTC uses is several ways.

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Zig261 says:

Say goodbye to that stock price Samaung. Lol.

But then again Samsung is a conglomerate operating in many types of industries. They'll be perfectly fine with a small dip in profit in their phone space.
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DAS says:

It's amazing how a headline or an article can be spun in such a way that it can shape what people think.
I believe its was Q3 of 2013 that Samsung had profits of over 7 billion for the quarter. Their profits dipped a meager 2.1% in Q4.
When your profits are over 7 billion, somehow a slight dip of 2.1% or only having profits of over 5.5 billion, is not any indication the sky is falling.
Don't get me wrong, no company wants to see less profit, but it's not unreasonable to think that at some point 24 months of rising profits would level off at some point.
There is no alarm here. There isn't a company out there that wouldn't be happy with the profits Samsung will report.
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tdizzel says:

Articles like this make me really miss Ricky Yarrell

NoNexus says:

Yeah where has he been?

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Taz89 says:

Thought he got banned by Phil.

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NoNexus says:

Did he? I missed it.

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ScottJ says:

Kind of like how Clark Kent always misses Superman.

tdizzel says:

He was only banned for a week, but that was a few weeks ago

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xlDeMoNiClx says:

That's one of the problems with AC's forums. Even with the worst people, they never permaban anyone. It's made the forums' quality drop and quickly.

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Taz89 says:

Should be fine, it makes sense with better competition that there will be slight dips also it's better to prepare the stock market with low expectations instead of high expectations that way if they under achieve well they said they would and if they do better it makes them look better.

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clietreo says:

Exactly, this is how the market works. For years, Apple has done this.

Samsung is still killing it. However, it's good for us and we can hope that they have a realization (not easy when your profits are so high) that the customers' wants are important.

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NoNexus says:

That is why they are profitable. They make a phone that does what people want. Hell they make a ton of phones for different purposes that do what the individual wants. Take the Note 3. No other phone has a spen and the spen features. It is indispensable to me. For some it is the zoom.

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clietreo says:

Yes, I agree. Also, my Note 3 is awesome.

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Taz89 says:

Yep got a s4 but waiting to see what the note 4 brings in September.. Plus it's closer to my contract end date lol.

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Collin Lewis says:

Still working apple globally all day every day !

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xlDeMoNiClx says:

Still doing 10000000x better than HTC.

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I think they'll be OK.
http://sm-phone.blogspot.com/

azsdfsd says:

Well when you convert the won to dollars their operating profit is practically flat or the same from last year. The korean won is stronger now

Taz89 says:

Interesting, never thought about that.

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