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The government of China could launch its own PC desktop operating system sometime in October which could later be extended to smartphones and tablets, in a bid to compete with rival overseas systems from Microsoft, Google and Apple.

The government controlled Chinese news agency Xinhua quoted Ni Guangnan, the leader of China's official OS development alliance, as saying, "We hope to launch a Chinese-made desktop operating system by October supporting app stores." He added that their domestic OS could replace current desktop systems in one to two years, and could do the same for the mobile market in three to five years.

Details of how this Chinese OS will differ from the many Western operating systems are not known at this point. However, China clearly doesn't want to rely on operating systems that are coming from the US. A few months ago, the government announced it would not use Microsoft's current Windows 8 operating system on its PCs due to both security and energy use concerns.

What do you think of China's plans to create its own operating system and could it eventually lock out Western-made software?

Source: Reuters

 

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China is working on a homegrown OS to replace current U.S. solutions

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So much easier to infiltrate software when you have created it yourself.

Not that I'm accusing China of malicious activities.

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Just saying they wanted lenovo to buy blackberry so they'd have a back door into a system they otherwise couldn't get into

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That goes both ways... At least we know that the NSA and their European sister organisations has been infiltrating everything, including Linux, for the last 5-10 years. How about we fix that first before we point the fingers at others?

The problem is that if we fix it unilaterally, there's no incentive for China to quit their own shenanigans because they'd have the advantage, and a sizeable one at that.

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The US are the only ones caught red handed planting eavesdropping devices in brand new computers at the factories. Still, stupid trolls like you argue the opposite, simply because you don't have a live outside the trolling internet. Is it really so horrible selling lPhones these days that you have to spend all your day on here, ErnstMach? On an Android site?!

Jesus H Jones, Hans. I try to strike up a conversation about security and it turns into a personal attack! It just provides me with more evidence that you have a complex. I didn't even mention my personal misgivings about my past and current Samsung experience and still you harass me.

Contribute to the discussion or shut the hell up.

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Why? I have the right to share my opinion, which in this case is that we're locked in a cold war in terms of cybersecurity with China. They've been infiltrating us just as much as we've been infiltrating them. If we stop, they won't want to. It certainly doesn't warrant the personal vendetta you seem to have against me. Plus, the only person calling me a "well known troll" on here is yourself, just saying.

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If you're so vehement about your desire to not discuss anything with me then stop replying! I don't have the time to defend myself from your slander habit.

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Troll replies with inane BS (as usual) is later upset that he gets blasted for it and insists on getting the last reply, because that's the last thing he's got going in a retarded attempt at not looking stupid.... :D

Lol, have the last word if you want, I honestly don't care. I have grown weary of your unprovoked personal attacks.

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Who's the troll? Not trying to jump in on anyone else's argument, but this personal argument makes the comments boring and irrelevant.

@Hans Pedersen china has also placed software on PC's made in china and shipped to the US as well, also in tablets and allegedly phones too.

This will probably be Like iOS when it was conceived in which they'll copy a few OS' and mesh them together.

China never creates anything, they only copy everything, never an original thought with that bunch anymore.

I find xenophobes so amusing. In one sentence "you copy everything we do!!!!", in the next sentence "oh and by the way, can you guys build all of our stuff for us, please?"

Most of the world has strict laws prohibiting forced labor, child labor, have minimum wages, safety regulations, etc. Therefore, most of the world cannot compete with China's manufacturing bids. Simple as that. They copy everything anyone does, including themselves, without any remorse or penalty other than many of their citizens' standard of living. I love good products for pennies on the dollar, so yeah...

As an FYI the NSA was extatic about accessing the BlackBerry BIS (Consumer service). They could never access BES (BlackBerry Enterprise Server), so anyone using enterprise is impenetrable. People using the consumer offering and thinking that they were getting enterprise grade should have done more research. You get what you pay for.

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Exactly correct. Our own government spies on it's citizens. The U.S. government sets the bar on spying on it's citizens.

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They're perfectly willing to use their access to operating systems to spy on us, and yet they're shocked that we are doing the same thing! What did they expect? Lol

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People need to keep reminding themselves that even with all it's so called progress and development, China is a communist country that limit it's people's freedom.

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Not really. The state still basically owns everything, it just engages in the capitalism itself. The nation is still communist. Socialist, actually, but that's really splitting very few hairs.

I guess I worded that badly. You *can* call it whatever you like, however that doesn't mean you are correct with what you call it. Although I'm sure an intelligent person would have understood what I meant and if they disagreed would either question why I think it isn't correct to call China communist, or argue the point that it actually is communist. Name calling is what people who can't form a coherent argument do.

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Yes it has turned more into the totalitarian state that Chiang Kai Shek wanted, and Mao is probably rolling in his grave, but the foundation of it is still Communist nonetheless

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I had a friend from China I used to communicate with via Facebook until she stopped suspiciously using the service, she's probably in a labour camp or dead because u know it's illegal to access the site there.

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In a republic, you mean. Pure democracy carries the seeds of it's own destruction, since minorities have basically no protection and mob rule gets codified. A republic usually puts limitations on democracy to prevent it from becoming a monster (think of two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner). It's why, in our history, you often hear or read the saying, "We are a nation of laws, not of men." Pure democracy is rule of men with nothing but majority rule, and that is precisely why the U.S. was formed as a representative republic instead. Unfortunately, we are failing to keep it.

You don't go to labor camp or get death sentence in China for visiting sites like Facebook. China limits Internet freedom but it's not North Korea. Those sites are blocked but it's perfectly legal to play some tricks to get around the Great Firewall, and I do that everyday. Please don't overstate things if you don't really know them.

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China is slowly, kicking and screaming away from communism and towards capitalism and democracy, ask any Asian Political Pundit in SE Asia/Pacific. It's almost a serfdom in China with using the backs of the poor farmers to feed their entire countries and the same poor farmers being assigned slave jobs in factories to finance and build their middle class and wealthy.

Is that why they have government controlled propaganda...I mean news organizations? Just the fact that the Chinese government is working on an operating system to ban ours is proof enough for me that it is a communist country.

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Not likely.

It will most likely be their own Linux distro. They already have one called Red Flag Linux, though Wikipedia tells me that was shut down earlier this year. They might revive it or maybe they will create a new one.

Even if they have the source code for Windows (and they might), it would be too much trouble politically to create their own fork of Windows. The government can get away with turning a blind eye to piracy and copyright infringement, but doing it themselves risks a trade dispute with the U.S. which would cost them too much, they need their trade with the U.S. and other western countries to keep their economy going.

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Can you imagine, the government will be able to shut everyone's phone and computer down with one click. And no one will be able to do anything about it.

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Horrible idea for the Chinese people. Feel bad for them. I am glad that I live in the US at least there is a thin line. The Chinese are just screwed and have no way around it. Now I am assuming it will be an option to buy, and not the Chinese Government banning all other services.

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It's bound to happen since amurica wants to save money so much. Outsourcing your jobs are going to let someone out there know how to do your job and compete with you.

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So you're saying the android phone you're using and clothes you're wearing are POS? Look at the tags of your clothes before you respond.

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China will slowly decrease its dependency on the western world, then they will start to close up again. They have really only opened up this much to get our industrial technology and make money off of us. Unfortunately, pesky other things such as the desire to have decent human rights has also bled through to their lower classes. So now it is time to shed their dependency and close up again...

... And get ready for another round of western exploitation when they begin to open up again. We're getting a pretty good deal out of all this!

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Only in the short term, which is correspondingly short-sighted. Long term, China wins, the U.S. and other western nations have come to be dependent on them, instead of finding ways to fix our own economies to be self-sufficient again. The problem with a globally dependent economy is that when war breaks out, you have a recession or worse.

And it's possible only with authoritarianism. That's what Communists do. Sacrifice individual freedoms so the whole nation can move towards the same long-term goal. If you live in China you will have to accept that whether you like it or not.

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Except, it doesn't really work. Every communist nation in history has ultimately been backward in terms of progress and technology and failed or collapsed under its own weight. If you truly want progress in the long term, you have to free people to pursue it themselves. Capitalist countries may seem like a mess, but progress happens for many reasons under that system. It's when we start subverting (or abusing) those freedoms that it truly becomes a problem, rather than just untidy. Freedom cannot continue without responsibility, and neither can progress unless people take responsibility for their destinies. Communism takes that away from the individual, so there is no motivation to do truly great things that spur progress forward, and no responsibility for failure, either.

The reasons for this are fairly obvious. However developing and refining a full blown desktop OS and supporting Applications is not a trivial task; even for China! Once they have done so - it will be attacked and compromised from outside (thus adding to any holes and back doors they install deliberately to spy on each other; and any western users). We could hope for some novel and interesting innovations and new approaches; but what should the West actually be doing about it?

I think OUR biggest concern should be the economic impact of this move on Western companies. Retaining a mainstream hardware fabrication capacity should have been part of American and European strategic thinking for the last decade - I don't see it! Western users and governments are deeply dependant on China for hardware; so what if they stop supporting Western operating systems and effectively dump us?

China is is a good position to make this move; but it will take some time. I hope Western governments and companies use that time to rebuild the hardware production capacity we have lost. If they can.

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IMO China may be producing goods for the west but they are far from being buddy buddy with the west. Call their government whatever name you choose but make no mistake, they want domination in the east and will stop at nothing to attain it. They are making billions off of manufacturing and are putting that money the west so graciously gives them into their military. All the while using technology we also graciously gave them (Cray supercomputers) to hack the west and rocket science technology to build ICBM type systems (err I mean go to the moon) . Not to mention their alliances with North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, the Middle East, and any other countries that are not friends of the Western powers.

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This is code for, we have stolen everything we need to be independent of those we stole from.
"We will now build our own." (From the stolen pieces of course.....)

We don't want those capitalist pigs making our software now, do we?

(NSA has probably now marked me as terrorist for "anti-American" statements)

They aren't doing anything that the U.S.A. hasn't done. Just saying! America can't point fingers. I'm an American and very patriotic, but truth is truth.

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Quick posting tip: The need to state your patriotism while pointing out faults usually calls it into question. This isn't saying you aren't patriotic, just a reminder of how it appears when we form our statements like that. Your patriotism will speak for itself.

As is being dependent on China for your economy. Making any economy dependent on a foreign state is a bad move if you can avoid it.

It's an expected choice. Technology that is maintained and supplied in your own country is much easier in the long run to handle. China has quite a bit that they would rather produce internally than through exports. I actually wish the US did less imports and used more internally created products.