Nexus

A detailed changelog for Android 4.4.3, a.k.a. KitKat Maintenance Release 2, has hit the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). And lurking within are tantalizing references to upcoming AOSP targets — likely future Nexus devices — alongside current products like the Nexus 5 and Nexus 7. First up, the widely-rumored HTC-built Nexus tablet could be in development under the codename "Flounder." And a Google Android TV-powered set top box also appears to be in the works, and codenamed "Molly."

From Google's own changelog —

project device/google/molly/
e610c57 Set BT minor code to SET_TOP_BOX instead of HIFI.

project device/htc/flounder/

Nexus devices — both phones and tablets — have used fish-related codenames in the past, so "Flounder" would fit the pattern that's been established over the past few years. As for "Molly," the reference to a set top box seems to suggest some kind of companion device to bring the new Android TV UI into homes through a FireTV-like box. There are also mentions of files for DRM, such as Discretix ReadyPlay, which support the idea of the box being a media-centric device. And references to code from NVIDIA being included in "Molly" builds suggest the box may be powered by a hardware from the graphics-centric chipmaker. Elsewhere, an AOSP change spotted by Droid-Life seems to mention HTC's "Flounder" in the context of it being a Tegra device.

With Google I/O coming up in just over a month, there's a good chance we could see these two devices in San Francisco at Google's annual developer conference, so hopefully we won't have too long to wait for an official look at "Flounder" and "Molly." In the meantime, hit the Android Central forums and share your thoughts on HTC's possible return to the Nexus fold, and Google's upcoming living room venture.

More: HTC 'Flounder' forum, Google 'Molly' Set Top Box forum

Source: AOSP via XDA, Thanks to everyone who sent this in!

 
There are 67 comments

NickLippert says:

Is the HTC one grouper or flounder? The title and body of the article don't agree.

med322 says:

Yeah they messed up. Grouper is the Nexus 7 2012.

benthe1 says:

They fixed it. :-) Proceed as normal.

Mac58 says:

this!

MERCDROID says:

I can't wait to see this HTC Nexus tablet! HTC is long overdue for another Nexus device.

BldyIdt says:

+9000

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cporier91 says:

Agreed.

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djohansson says:

Yeah, but I want a 10" with 4G.

NoYankees44 says:

This is very exciting!

Vote for an android set top box with a Chromecast like casting option.

O yeah, the the tablet will be awesome too. I just hope it is reasonably priced.

NickLippert says:

That would be great. I like being able to cast but sometimes miss a physical remote.

AOSPrevails says:

AndroidPolice says they got rumors of it being 2k screen, 8.9" and $299, production is due in July.

MarkSeven says:

Drool-worthy spec & price combination for sure..

rampage1979 says:

If it has this at this price I'm getting 2

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Impulses says:

8.9" at $300 would be sweet, it'd be hard to justify upgrading from a year old N7 but dang, 8.9"would've been my preferred form factor all along.

sperrygeer says:

If true, take my money!

RaiderWill says:

2K ?.. 8.9" ? AND only $299.00 ???
The only weakness I see is the Tegra 4/5 Engine.. ( At least for proper AOSP support ) Stick with a Snap-805 / Adreno-330 combo and a 7 - 8k Battery in there and you really would have something.. From what I remember reading, Tegra / Nividia based Engines are not the most popular.. and prone to freezing, overheating etc.. we shall see at Google I./O what the Real Deal is.

TimeHunter says:

Molly is also a fish, very common in home tropical fish tanks. :-D

ExtremeNerd says:

My first though, too!

http://www.molly-fish.com/

The more you know!

cj100570 says:

Molly is also a popular drug. Perhaps someone at Google is a user.

Mac58 says:

lmao. Nice

frettfreak says:

LMFAO!!!!

spock123 says:

I love you, man

MarkSeven says:

LOL

Molly used to sell Cockles and Muscles (alive alive-oh) according the song. . . .

mvsmith says:

Cool. Never knew that Nexus devices were named after fish. The nexus 7 (2013) is the first and only nexus I've ever had. Isn't the nexus 7 2013 called flo?
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motcher41#CB says:

nevermind

motcher41#CB says:

nevermind

benthe1 says:

nevermind

Nevermind

#nevermind

MarkSeven says:

nevermind

Darth Spock says:

Guys, I agree it's a good album... but what does Nirvana have to do with Fish Gadgets?

swagsaunders says:

Nevermind

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AOSPrevails says:

deb(Nexus 7 2013 LTE)/flo(Nexus 7 2013 Wifi) are two fishes in the movie "Finding Nemo"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_nemo#Cast

gregs1213 says:

My VZW galaxy nexus was codenamed Toro and I know Maguro was another.. so some were types of sushi as well.

gene1138 says:

So how do we get our hands on this and side load it onto a N5?

y2whisper says:

sad that i see the word molly and think of this dumb song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPFB0rM1Xxk

Habiib says:

Gaaahhhh!! Why did I click that....lol. I think that Google would have been better off using Mullet instead of Molly, after hearing that trash.

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benthe1 says:

I've heard MUCH worse.

JigJames says:

This is the song I think of...Almost ten years since this album came out. Damn, I'm getting old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwjfRSUme3U

kinster02 says:

Good Golly Miss Molly, sure like to ball
When you're rocking and rolling
Can hear your mama call

From my Note 2 to you

rauelius says:

Tegra K1 powered Google-Made set-top box with Valve porting over HL2, TF2, Portal 1+2, DOTA2, CS:Source?

Grahaman27 says:

The source indicates Marvell powered... Hope its wrong.

via moto x.

Alex Dobie says:

My reading of the changelog is that the Marvell chip (8797) is for radio stuff (Wifi, BT), not the SoC powering the whole box.

Grahaman27 says:

Your right! I need to stop reading android police stuff first lol.

If it has a tegra in it, I'm buying, otherwise my chromecast works fine.

via moto x.

deltatux says:

I'm more excited to see more NVIDIA Tegra devices. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not a fan of a single chipmaker commanding the bulk of the market at all. It's like the whole Intel thing all over again for the PC market. When one chip manufacturer dominates a certain segment like this, it will create a huge gap where the smaller players will never catch up so I'm more excited to see another chip manufacturer like NVIDIA building high end chips for the mobile embedded market.

Though the thing I'm anticipating the most here really is Android 4.4.3, release it already Google, stop teasing us.

Impulses says:

NV alienated most of it's partners by overselling past Tegras which were often inferior to the competition in several ways tho... Not sure what's up with Samsung's own SoCs, that should realistically be Qualcomm's biggest competition, in phones and tablets anyway.

A15 is also pretty power hungry so chip makers that haven't re-engineered ARM's designs (read: mostly everyonebutt Qualcomm and Apple) have been at a disadvantage. A lot of this would be irrelevant on a set top box tho...

Anyway, the ARM SoC market is much MUCH bigger than just phones and tablets and Tegra seems to be selling ok (at least according to NV's fiscal report) despite the lack of big consumer facing design wins.

Grahaman27 says:

eh, that is the common misconception. Every chipmaker has used the A15, but your not wrong its inefficient- but thats not just an nvidia problem. Plus, they are fixing with their custom denver SoC. the new A15 devices use the HPM process which is more efficient.

Fire TV prepare for a battle!

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Ep3n3wp says:

Yes!!! Finally... I've been waiting for the new GoogleTV so I can replace me Logitech revue!!

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mammlouk says:

If this thing has the Tegra K1 graphics, a reasonable price tag, and decent on board storage, I may just have to pick one up!

lucas710 says:

Let's hope the set top box is priced to sell like the Chromecast! Between $35-85 and I will buy asap ;)

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Grahaman27 says:

but it probably wont, and thats why the chromecast exists :)

MarkSeven says:

Can't wait to see what this tablet is looking like..

theShiz says:

Dr Evil says: I just hope the device doesn't... flounder eh Number 1? Muahaha!! Muahaha!! MUUAAHHAHAHAA!!!!! *COUGH *COUGH* COUGHHHHHHH!! FRIKNSHEESH!.... muahaha.
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abie6972 says:

Has anybody mentioned that it might be called flounder because the HTC One (M8) has two cameras on one side. Kind of like how a flounder has two eyes on one side.

theShiz says:

Nawp

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Si1versmith says:

Maybe its F for 6th letter of alphabet. Meaning Nexus 6?

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VAVA Mk2 says:

So...can I expect 4.4.3 for my Nexus 5 and N7 2012 any day now?

chad_b says:

"Dorfman, we've given this a lot of thought. From now on, your name is 'Flounder'."

rxnelson says:

"....so "Flounder" would fit the pattern that's been established over the past few years."

Flounder = to struggle clumsily or helplessly

We'll played Alex.

Youngunn says:

That's what I was thinking exactly. HTC floundering the last few years. ... despite releasing a couple great phones... fitting.
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rxnelson says:

*Well
Damn you autocorrect!

Wicket says:

cool, look forward to what they announce, is it safe to assume Google I/O? :D

shaogden says:

I'm trying to get a hold of that 4.4.3 change log but its not where to be found, any suggestions?

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If the tablet is just an 8" HTC M8.....I'd be all over this.

Dual front facing speakers, superb metal build, gorgeous LCD screen....could be the perfect tablet for me.